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What’s some good literature for Christians going their own way(mysticism, philosophy, etc.) outside of any organized church but still in line with Nicene Christianity without straying into Gnosticism and other heresies.

>> No.17156546

the aenid (in the original latin)

>> No.17156564

>>17156514
There is none. You're either in the church and follow it's doctrines that are specifically made so that you don't fall into heretical theology or you're not.

>> No.17156580

>what is some stuff that is Christian but isn’t Christian

>> No.17156582

>>17156514
>i want to be a Christian
>but not the way the Bible or Jesus or any of the apostles said
Nice meme

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>> No.17156798

>>17156514
You literally can't be Christian without being part of an organized body of other Christians.

>> No.17156827

>>17156514
stop trying to be le independent sage, stop trying to be the protagonist of a YA novel who goes his own way but still follows le redpilled theology

>> No.17157273

>>17156514
Don't larp
>>17156732
>Russian equivalent of Jefferson's Gospels

>> No.17157311

>>17157273
>Russian equivalent of Jefferson's Gospels
are they good? I like the russian version

>> No.17157345

>>17156564
>You need to be part of any organisation to be Christian.
Ironically, this is not a Christian doctrine. See Matthew 18,20.

>> No.17157386

>>17157345
Christ literally established a church, it's always been a Christian doctrine since the beginning unless of course you're somehow more qualified than the church fathers.

>> No.17157402

>>17157386
this is like when the Quran speaks of jizya or zakat or ayas, and muslims assume that the terms must imply the maturated uses the umma uses today, when these are in fact much later. Who can say what christ meant by a church? who can say how any modern church relates to what Peter did?

>> No.17157440

>>17156732
>excludes much of the supernatural aspects of the original gospels, such as their claims of Jesus's divine origins and ability to perform miracles.
Fucking dropped. Why do retards always do this?

>> No.17157449

>>17157402
>You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church.
Don't be retarded, Christ built a church and there's no denying that. To answer your question, the church fathers decide on these theological matters. Who cares a out modern churches? The undivided body of Christ isn't modern.

>> No.17157465

>>17157440
Because they want to appeal to the unbelieving goy masses.

>> No.17157492

>>17157440
the point of the book is the doctrine of being sons of the father, and of love being ontologically different from all else as being the will of the father. and of all humans being sons of the father, if they will only realize it, and therefore of a real brotherhood of man and of there being something that is always worthy of being loved that is the inmost of what it means to be human. And in a great passage the interpretation that one is only alive when one chooses the will of the father over the will of the flesh, and that this choice is really what a humanbeing is, and that all one can do is try and show by ones actions the reality of the will of the father, and that life in the father is eternal life as it is unbound from consequences in time. Life only as intent.

>> No.17157499

>What’s some good literature for Christians going their own way(mysticism, philosophy, etc.) outside of any organized church but still in line with Nicene Christianity without straying into Gnosticism and other heresies.
What you're asking is limited to different translations and analyses of the Bible.

>> No.17157505

>>17157492
what does any of this have to do with purposefully removing miracles

>> No.17157523

>>17157505
I honestly don't remember. he gets into it in the foreword

>> No.17157585

>>17157449
>A literal pun with Petrus' name
Well there's both, the commandment to build a church to Peter AND the assurance that two believers are a community of the Trinity or Christian church.

>> No.17157606

>>17156732
It's funny that the Grand Inquisitor misguided the common people knowingly because he believed them to be too simple for Christian faith, and Tolstoy misguided the common people unwittingly because he believed Christian faith to be too complex for them.

>> No.17157655

>>17157606
he has some afaik unorthodox positions, like the Father and the Creator not being the same. afaik he has the exact inverted stance on the trinity compared to catholicism

>> No.17157674

Did any of you convert and start going to Church, or were you born into it? How did you go about it?

>> No.17157677

>>17157585
>Reducing the word of God incarnate to a simple pun because you don't like it's meaning
You can't have "two believers" if they're not part of the church to begin with. That's like saying any two heretics are the church because they "believe" in Christ. Christ established a VISIBLE AND UNIVERSAL church, Peter is every Bishop of this church. You either agree with this or become a protestant heretic, I don't make these rules up.

>> No.17157748

*ahem*
fuck pr*testants

>> No.17158074

You have to go to Church.