/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.17153000]

For hatred does not cease by hatred at any time:
hatred ceases by love,
this is an old rule.

[Anonymous No.17153047]

>>17153000
Thank you for this blessed post ༅
Light shines through the illusion ༅
Love is our salvation ༆

[Anonymous No.17153076]

Conze explicitly compared Mahayana Buddhism with "gnosis," that is, knowledge or insight, and not with "the Gnostics," because too little was known about the Gnostics as a social group.

> Liberation or salvation can be achieved by a liberating insight, namely gnosis or jnana

> Ignorance, or a lack of insight, called agnosis or avidyā, is the root cause of entrapment in this world.

> Liberating insight can be achieved by interior revelation, not by external knowledge

> Both systems give a hierarchical ordering of spiritual attainment, from blind materialism to complete spiritual attainment

> Wisdom, as the feminine principle personified in Sophia and prajna, plays an important role in both religions

> Myth is preferred over historical fact; the Christ and the Buddha are not mere historical figures, but archetypal primordial beings

> Both systems have antinomian tendencies, that is, a disregard for rules and social conventions in higher spiritual attainments
Both systems are intended for spiritual elites, not for the masses, and have hidden meanings and teachings

> Both systems are monistic, aiming at a metaphysical oneness beyond the multiplicity of the phenomenal world.

[Anonymous No.17153106]

>>17153000
A year ago a black man raped my girlfriend and came inside her ass. At first I hated him, but then I realized that hate is not the answer and now I really love him. He fucks my girlfriend every day now btw.

[Anonymous No.17153138]

>>17153000
The meme that hatred is a bad thing, and love is a good thing is one of the biggest jokes in all of Mysticism.
Hatred has its value, just like every other emotion does, and without it we wouldn't be were we are today.

[Anonymous No.17153257]

>>17153138
>>17153106
“Do you suppose that a hunter is angry with the beasts he kills? Yet he meets them when they attack him, and follows them when they flee from him, all of which is managed by reason without anger." - Seneca

[Anonymous No.17153290]

>>17153257
Based

[Anonymous No.17153485]

You're in the Samsara and this guy slaps your suffering's ass

what do

[Anonymous No.17154247]

>>17153138
This. Everything that's a common human emotion has its purpose. Denying it is delusional and harmful. Hate needs to be accepted, understood and then acted upon. Hatred does not equal killing and terrorism. Hatred in fact is an integral part of love just like death is complementary of life. Buddhists should understand this better than anyone else.

[Anonymous No.17154272]

>>17153138
I'm sure Buddhists have equivalent of "Hate the sin, not the sinner" among their teachings

[Anonymous No.17154398]

>>17153000

I disagree. Hatred is caused by love, like death is caused by life. Note the Christological implication: Victor vs. Atonement, the Catholic relishing of the latter's sanctioning of hatred and death through utmost mercy vs. the Gnostic realization of the former's ending of hatred and death through utmost severity.

[Anonymous No.17155521]

>>17153076
Nirvana is not gnosis though.

[Anonymous No.17155529]

This is bullshit, hatred and love are two sides of the same coin. If you love something you hate what opposes it.

[Anonymous No.17155590]

>>17153138
feelings like anger are natural, hatred is a harmful clinging to those feelings

[Anonymous No.17155594]

>>17155529
Unironically this.
>>17153000
Anon your words are empty

[Anonymous No.17155595]

>>17155529
>If you love something you hate what opposes it.
literal autism

[Anonymous No.17155605]

>>17153000
Can anyone explain to me why "love" is a good thing from a Buddhist perspective? I would have thought that it would be judged as being similar to hate - after all, both attachment and aversion are deadly inhibitions for a Buddhist who wants to go beyond both.

[Anonymous No.17155613]

>>17155529
>>17155594

[Anonymous No.17155637]

>>17155605
Love is unconditional affection and mindfulness. Attachment is conditional.

[Anonymous No.17155681]

>>17155637
Yes, but love also implies a dualism, which reinforces the subject-object distinction and therefore attachment in a subtle way, no? Or does the Buddha feel differently about this?

[Anonymous No.17155697]

>>17153000
Thanks I needed this, just got turned down by the job I applied at

[Anonymous No.17155728]

>>17155613
Cope

[Anonymous No.17155731]

>>17155605
>I would have thought that it would be judged as being similar to hate - after all, both attachment and aversion are deadly inhibitions for a Buddhist who wants to go beyond both.
yes but that's the path to reach the truth. Love and non-ill will are just useful for a good birth. That's called the ''path of merit'' and it is legit, but not the path to nirvana.

[Anonymous No.17155920]

>>17155681
Genuine love should involve seeing nondually ie treating the other person as if they are your very self, which has huge ramifications within interaction

[Anonymous No.17155952]

>>17153138
It's not that hatred is inherently bad, or else it wouldn't exist, just as darkness isn't inherently bad, but it isn't useful for the purposes of stopping suffering

[Anonymous No.17156064]

>>17155920
but there is no self

[Nemo !!GgBWHLRiayD No.17156989]

>>17155590
The fact of a thing's naturality/tendency of cause is not necessarily a factor to its quality.

Anger may be naturally rooted in/caused by, either: hatred (ignobility), or Fury (Nobility), in the same way that joy may be naturally rooted in/caused by, either: attachment (ignobility), or Love (Nobility); in both instances of the aforelisted dichotomies, perpetuation of the former necessarily results in antinaturality, whereas that of the latter, in contranaturality.

[Anonymous No.17158078]

>>17153138
>and without it we wouldn't be were we are today.
Oh no... The horror...

[Anonymous No.17158120]

Let a man leave anger, let him forsake pride,
let him overcome all bondage!
No sufferings befall the man who is not attached to name and form,
and who calls nothing his own.

He who holds back rising anger like a rolling chariot,
him I call a real driver;
other people are but holding the reins.

[Anonymous No.17158224]

>>17155590
The evolutionary purpose of hatred is probably something like to mark people who constantly defect or cause you or your ingroup serious harm as permanently untrustworthy. Anger abates, can be forgiven based context, hatred is for 'fuck this person forever, show no mercy', which would certainly be useful behavior at times.

[Anonymous No.17158326]

>Anger causes a loss in self-monitoring capacity and objective observability
>Anger causes a reduction in cognitive ability and the accurate processing of external stimuli
>Angry people are more likely to make risky decisions, and make less realistic risk assessments

[Anonymous No.17160490]

[Anonymous No.17161160]

>>17158326
There's this one guy in my small town, I've know him since we were kids. Stereotypical bully, no one likes him but they still prefer to stay on his good side. He always put others down and mocked them for every little thing. I'm having a party soon, and ever since it crossed my mind that he might arrive uninvited, I've been thinking about beating the absolute shit out of him, a deserved lesson after the last straw. First time in my life feeling this way so strongly, even after considering the possible consequences.

I've finally started to calm down to realize he isn't worth it. I don't see any gain from it. Still, there's a chance I might lose my temper if he somehow provokes it. Any thoughts from anyone?

[Anonymous No.17161224]

>>17155605
that translation is probably just bad

[Anonymous No.17161255]

>>17153047
>>17153076
I am always mesmerized by this Buddhist art.

[Anonymous No.17161273]

>>17161160
>Any thoughts from anyone?
FUCK HIM UP
RIP AND TEAR

[Anonymous No.17161277]

>>17153076
>> Both systems are monistic, aiming at a metaphysical oneness beyond the multiplicity of the phenomenal world.
not in buddhism

[Anonymous No.17161348]

>>17153000
this is an old rule? an old rule made by who?

[Anonymous No.17161951]

>>17158078
Retard, advance requires competition, competition has its based in hatred.
>>17153138
Suffering is good, its what pushes us forwards into a better version of us. There is never going to be a point where this stops.

[Anonymous No.17162020]

>>17161348
Maybe its referencing Ahimsa

>The Mahabharata has multiple mentions of the phrase Ahimsa Paramo Dharma (अहिंसा परमॊ धर्मः), which literally means: non-violence is the highest moral virtue.
Ahimsa is the highest Dharma, Ahimsa is the highest self-control,
Ahimsa is the greatest gift, Ahimsa is the best practice,
Ahimsa is the highest sacrifice, Ahimsa is the finest strength,
Ahimsa is the greatest friend, Ahimsa is the greatest happiness,
Ahimsa is the highest truth, and Ahimsa is the greatest teaching.

>The statement ahimsā paramo dharmaḥ (or, "Non-injury/nonviolence/harmlessness is the supreme/ultimate/paramount/highest/absolute duty/virtue/attribute/religion" is often found inscribed on the walls of the Jain temples

[Anonymous No.17162050]

>>17154398
Hatred is caused by craving. Craving does not equate with love not does love necessitate craving. Equanimity might even be the better word.

[Anonymous No.17162534]

>>17155920
How does this work practically? How can you know when you are loving someone dually or nondually? The idea of love brings sentimental and emotional states to mind for me, whereas detachment brings to mind clear impassiveness. How do I reconcile the two? Is it enough to just feel those emotions but retain a self-conscious distance from them? Does that not run the risk of affirming the dualism without my awareness?

[Anonymous No.17162662]

>>17161160
if he has no band, then the whole town can neutralize him

[Anonymous No.17162710]

>>17161277
How does pleroma differ from nirvana?

[Anonymous No.17162858]

>>17153000
what? I kill you you hate no more.

you stupid faggots just repeat mantras to virtue signal. morons, shit in brains.

[Anonymous No.17162966]

>>17153000
hate will live on forever.
>>17155613
mega cope.

[Anonymous No.17162976]

>>17162858
If a man offend a harmless, pure, and innocent person,
the evil falls back upon that fool,
like light dust thrown up against the wind.