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Anonymous Tue Dec 29 20:42:30 2020 No.17151562 [Reply] [Original]

He's right. I'm done trying to prove him wrong. He achieved the highest level of gnosis, likely higher than any other being to ever live in this plane since him. I have 1000 problems with buddhism but what he taught is impossible to find a fault with.
I'm not smart enough to claim anatta is true or false, but it seems like he is right about the atman being not 100% the vendanta understanding of it.
Fuck I finally understand how low I am on the hierarchical chain of existence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 20:44:10 2020 No.17151570 File: 32 KB, 339x385, lao.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17151562 that's not Lao tho

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 20:45:57 2020 No.17151580 >>17151570 Actually tho Lao is correct. Buddha may have understood more of reality than Lao, but Lao is how we're supposed to act. The Dao is good. Buddhism is not a religion anyone should follow, daoism will bring society the most happiness

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 20:49:19 2020 No.17151593 >>17151580 Buddha and Lao are both great examples of how to live and walk. Blessings to you anon

Anonymous Tue Dec 29 20:50:33 2020 No.17151604
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He's right. I'm done trying to prove him wrong. He achieved the highest level of gnosis, likely higher than any other being to ever live in this plane since him. I have 1000 problems with Peterson but what he taught is impossible to find a fault with.
I'm not smart enough to claim "just clean your room" is true or false, but it seems like he is right about the Bible being not 100% the Christian understanding of it.
Fuck I finally understand how low I am on the hierarchical chain of existence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 22:20:19 2020 No.17152057 Isn't the one who has the greatest knowledge of Atma (by the virtue of being Atma), also the one most qualified to misteach it? Buddha is an avatar of Vishnu, don't be lead astray

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 22:25:09 2020 No.17152080 I have no fucking clue what you are on about, but my intuition says it is probably bullshit. Explain further, and offer me a book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 22:29:01 2020 No.17152101 File: 190 KB, 974x502, F06E6718-47A7-4079-B73D-8CAE8C9C4823.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Refuted by Shankara

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 22:29:34 2020 No.17152105 >>17152057 fuck off Hindu faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 22:43:47 2020 No.17152171 File: 795 KB, 1242x1099, FCE62F7A-CEE1-4DD1-A967-1D2714B4BC3D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17152105 Seethe.

Anonymous Tue Dec 29 22:47:34 2020 No.17152187
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>>17152101
I would be careful about reading Advaita Vedanta interpretations such as Shankara's as a commentary to the Upanishads, they are extremely reliant on Buddhist philosophy (Shankara is called a "cryptobuddhist" by most Hindus, and most scholars agree). If you want to read the Upanishads, work through them with editions and commentaries that aren't sectarian, or at least read an interpretation that is closer to the original meaning of the Upanishads, rather than Shankara's 9th century AD quasi-buddhism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 23:56:07 2020 No.17152616 >>17151562 cope

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 23:58:48 2020 No.17152626 >>17151562 >>17151570 >>17151580 >>17151593 recommend books, please?

Anonymous Wed Dec 30 00:18:10 2020 No.17152715

>>17152626

take 1h to read that and you'll be up to date

>start
https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/MN/MN19.html
https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/AN/AN6_63.html
>middle
https://suttacentral.net/mn148/en/sujato
https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/SN/SN12_51.html
https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/AN/AN11_1.html
>finish
https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/SN/SN54_8.html

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 30 03:17:56 2020 No.17153585 >>17151562 >>17151570 Aren't both of them compatible?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 30 03:22:50 2020 No.17153600 >>17151562 >but it seems like he is right about the atman being not 100% the vendanta understanding of it. Explain please

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 30 03:29:17 2020 No.17153621 File: 159 KB, 444x442, sidd4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If one has vomited up greed, anger, and delusion then returns and partakes of them he is like someone who eats his own vomit who could bear this suffering?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 30 07:53:57 2020 No.17154503 >>17153600 bump

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 30 07:55:44 2020 No.17154511 Is this thread going to get derailed into mindless arguments like most Buddhist threads?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 30 08:04:07 2020 No.17154563 >>17154511 Yes, probably. It's funny that buddhist threads always end up being a complete clusterfuck despite Gautama repeatedly stressing the importance of experience over intellectualization.

Anonymous Wed Dec 30 08:17:36 2020 No.17154620

>>17151562
>I'm done trying to prove him wrong
Fortunately for you Adi Shankara already did
> I'm not smart enough to claim anatta is true or false,
I am, and I assure you that it’s false. Unless it doesn’t deny that the Atman exists and it is really just apophaticism, in which case its just poorly-contrived and superseded by much more consistent metaphysics and forms of apophaticism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 30 08:20:17 2020 No.17154633 >>17152101 >Shankara Refuted by ABHINAVAGUPTA

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>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 30 09:06:20 2020 No.17154872 >>17154633 >source: nothing >inb4 trust me he really did but I don’t even know the arguments well enough to repeat a summary of them here

Anonymous Wed Dec 30 09:11:49 2020 No.17154906
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>>17151562
He's right. I'm done trying to prove him wrong. He is God, higher than any other being to ever live in this plane since Him. I have 1000 problems with current Catholicism but what He taught is impossible to find a fault with.
I'm not smart enough to claim resurrection is true or false, but it seems like the Apostles were sure about that being 100% real.
Fuck I finally understand how low I am on the hierarchical chain of existence.

Anonymous Wed Dec 30 09:15:34 2020 No.17154930

>>17151570
>Heaven is long-enduring and earth continues long. The reason why heaven and earth are able to endure and continue thus long is because they do not live of, or for, themselves. This is how they are able to continue and endure.
>Therefore the sage puts his own person last, and yet it is found in the foremost place; he treats his person as if it were foreign to him, and yet that person is preserved. Is it not because he has no personal and private ends, that therefore such ends are realised?
How can one old Chinese hobo be this based?

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