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>> No.17151259

>>17151175
80 pages

>> No.17151261

>>17151259
Good, good.

>> No.17151276

>>17151175
I read just over a hundred. Spent almost four hours reading today (yah I’m slow reader)

>> No.17151281

>>17151276
How do people like Hitler read a book a day? Literally what is the secret to read this fast?

>> No.17151296

>>17151281
People I know who read really quickly often don’t internalize the information that well. But that’s personal anecdote and could also be cope.

>> No.17151337

>>17151296
But these famous men do seem to be able to memorise the information.

>> No.17151340

>>17151281
>what is the secret to read this fast?
Not wasting time on 4chan

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>>17151175
0

>> No.17151345

>>17151281
well, he was on meth

>> No.17151357

>>17151175
One should generally speaking read broadly but not too deeply, except with exceptional books. Intuition can do the rest.

>I continue to read Linnaeus; I have to; I have no other book. It is the best way to read a book thoroughly, a way I must often practice, especially since I do not easily read a book to the end. This one, however, is not principally made for reading, but rather for review, and it serves me now excellently, since I have thought over most of its points myself.
- Goethe

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>>17151281
>His intellectual curiosity was limitless. He fairly lived on the writings of the most diverse authors, and nothing was too complex for his comprehension.

>He had a deep knowledge and understanding of Buddha, Confucius and Jesus Christ, as well as Luther, Calvin or Savonarola; of literary giants such as Dante, Schiller, Shakespeare, Goethe; and analytical writers such as Renan and Gobineau, Chamberlain and Sorel.

>He had trained himself in philosophy by studying Aristotle and Plato. Although the latter did not fit into his system, Hitler was nevertheless able to extract what he deemed of value. He could quote entire paragraphs of Schopenhauer from memory, and for a long time carried a pocket edition of Schopenhauer with him. Nietzsche taught him much about willpower.

>His thirst for knowledge was unquenchable. He spent hundreds of hours studying the works of Tacitus and Mommsen, military strategists like Clausewitz, or empire builders like Bismarck. Nothing escaped him: world history or the history of civilizations, the study of the Bible and the Talmud, Thomistic philosophy and all the masterpieces of Homer, Sophocles, Horace, Ovid, Titus Livius and Cicero. He knew Julian the Apostate as if he had been his contemporary.

>His knowledge also extended to mechanics. He knew how engines worked; he understood the ballistics of various weapons; and he astonished the best medical scientists with his knowledge of medicine and biology. The universality of Hitler's knowledge may surprise or displease those unaware of it, but it is nonetheless a historical fact: Hitler was one of the most cultivated men of the 20th century. A thousand times more so than Churchill, an intellectual mediocrity; or than Pierre Laval, with his mere cursory knowledge of history; or than Roosevelt; or Eisenhower, who never got beyond detective novels.

He was obsessively reading about history since a child, it's just in his nature.

>> No.17151414

>>17151175
over 80 pages of shitposts on /lit/

>> No.17151415

50 pages in the Ministry for the Future, a new novel by Kim Stanley Robinson

>> No.17151421

>>17151412
why are germans so autistic

>> No.17151423

>>17151175
I read the last half of the iliad today, and I've been going through the apocryphon of John too.

>> No.17151428

>>17151412
reminds me of obama

>> No.17151459

Read 60 pages of Within a Budding Grove. Going to read from like midnight to 4am though because I want to move onto the next volume.

>> No.17151465

>>17151412
>Nietzsche taught him much about willpower.
lmao

>> No.17151470

>>17151412
Source?

>> No.17151471

>>17151337
I think they preread and reread.

>> No.17151484

>>17151470
Degrelle's The Enigma of Hitler.

>> No.17151492

>>17151471
>He normally read one book every day, always first reading the conclusion and the index in order to gauge the work’s interest for him.

>> No.17151528

>>17151492
IIRC prereading has shown to be one of the most effective and time efficient ways to boost reading comprehension. Having a general idea of what you should expect when reading something primes your brain to properly contextualize the information so that it can be processed more efficiently.

Or some bullshit like that.

>> No.17151783

>>17151175
I just woke up give me a break

>> No.17151792

nothing. wrote like 1000 words tho :)

>> No.17151871

>>17151528
Exactly this, robots like Hitler learn the most efficient way quickly. But what if I enjoy the surprise?

>> No.17151881

>>17151871
If you enjoy reading from a clean slate but want to increase retention then you're probably just best taking your time with your first reading and then if it's something your interested in rereading it afterwards.

>> No.17151890

>>17151871
Don't read the summary then. Read the authors wiki, any movements associated with him wikis, historical events related to the book wikis. Anything else that looks relevant, and your done. Spoiling is unnecessary

>> No.17151900

>>17151890
Too add, you should do this because some books are meant to be "spoiled" from the start because they are about events that everyone knows. Even if by metaphor, you still need to know their history. What is more important to write about than your own experiences?

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>>17151175
50 pages of Le Guin you tryhard niggers

>> No.17152086

Half of thus spake zarathustra.

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>>17151175
Giving it in quantity is a misleading neasure

>> No.17153272

>>17151281
he was on stimulants and read voraciously since 15 until 4 in the morning so not surprising

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>>17151492
>>17151528
What if my book doesn't have an appendix?

>> No.17154439

>>17151175
Bump

>> No.17154450

I spend over an hour reading 20 pages of Absalom, Absalom! and then I got a headache. I’m on the verge of giving up desu

>> No.17154474

>>17151412
Was he the last lit world leader?

>> No.17154534

>>17154474
Putin?

>> No.17154596

>>17154534
No, me.

>> No.17154603

60 pages of Manga! Appleseed : Prometheus unbound

>> No.17154605

>>17154534
What does he read?

>> No.17154642

>>17151412
Absolutely based.

>> No.17154683

>>17151412
I'll never... why go on

>> No.17154732

Handful of threads, all up probably about 120 posts

>> No.17154740

>>17151175
Between 50-100 each day. Somedays I don't read when I don't feel like it. Today was 0.

>> No.17154776

been doing about .5-1.5 book from a 4-colunmn a4 list of books, most audio, though some i play and read at the same time for extra speed, mostly at x2.38 speed; have around 2 dozen completed, around dozen started, never finished becaused there'd bad or i don't like them
i rate all
currently speadreading emotional first aid. mostly nowthing new, will give it the benefit of doubt until the midpoint

>> No.17154798

>>17151175
Like six pages of Maps of Meaning, shit's hard to get through for an ESL :((((((((((((((

>> No.17154835

>>17151281
Just move your eyes faster

>> No.17154838

>>17154798
Peterson is so predictable in his thought and speech. You don't need to see or hear much of him to get his message and thought patterns- my opinion. His writings I found unhelpful, and boring.
Read normal, non-pretentious literature if you want better grasp of English.
Or just take out every new word, and use it somewhere, so you don't waste your timme looking it up ten more times. Fuck knows jp loves repeats himself same as idealogues do.

>> No.17154841

>>17151412
>The University of Hitler
what?

>> No.17154846

Around 6 pages. Having trouble getting concentrated.

>> No.17154857

>>17154838
In his lectures he is pretty predictable, yeah. But in Maps, he analyses belief through evolutional, neurological and literary-analytic lense... it's a whooping. He still repeats himself a lot, but the amount of dots connected is outstanding and it's just not something I'd be able to run through like I usually do. But thank you for your concern, being an ESL does have its disadvantages.

>> No.17154863

>>17154841
universality, dyslexic anon

>> No.17154865

>>17151412
>written by a Hitler fetishist
I'm skeptical.

>> No.17154897

>>17154857
I learned my mother tongue as a second because of immigration during childhood, and my third, German, is better than my mother- a Slavic lang-, so it's more down to practice.
Also new info is assimilated slowly, I wouldn't speed- or spritzread a philosophical text, or something I really enjoy.

>> No.17154914

>>17151412
>sources: just trust me bro

>> No.17154956

>>17154897
бaceд

>> No.17155002

>>17154914
>>17154865
It was well known that Hitler was an avid reader (especially before he became politically active), and most of the works named in that quote were actually in his library, or he was known to have read them.

>> No.17155015

>>17155002
This, pretty much all references to his youth describe him as an avid reader and extremely knowledgeable on history, for someone self-taught.

>> No.17155032

>>17155002
Yes... there's a huge difference between "avid reader" and "one of the most cultured men of the 20th century". The claim is laughable unless corroborated by someone not sucking Hitler's wee-wee.

>> No.17155065

>>17155032
He was more cultured and more widely knowledgeable than many of his (international) political peers, just as Degrelle said. It's a bit hyperbolic perhaps, but not far off the mark either.

>> No.17155075

>>17155065
>knows more about literature than a bunch of people who didn't waste their time studying humanities
Yeh... obviously if it was an interest for him, he would know more about it than other politicians. But there were probably thousands of humanities majors who knew this shit just as well as him or far better. "A bit hyperbolic" -- it's an outright falsity.

>> No.17155078

>>17155065
This, the point being that Hitler's understanding supersedes the nature of the typical academic or intellectual, as well as those in his own place of power. What man can have such an educated life-philosophy, which requires an enactening realistically, almost none.

>> No.17155087

>>17155075
Stop being so autistic, it's not just about literature. It's about knowing man and the world.
>But there were probably thousands of humanities majors who knew this shit just as well as him or far better.
And they also failed to apply their knowledge, so what use was it then?
> "A bit hyperbolic" -- it's an outright falsity.
No, you just don't like the fact that muh ebil guy was, in fact, one of the more cultured men of the 20th century.

>> No.17155093

173

>> No.17155095

>>17155078
Correct.

>> No.17155102

>>17155087
>And they failed to apply their knowledge
What does that have to do with being cultured? Being a dictator and conquering Europe is the furthest thing from cultured I can imagine.
>You don't like that [unsubstantiated claim]
So far all you've shown is that he read a few books that a lot of people have read. Show some evidence other than a quote from Adolf's twinkboy or shut up

>> No.17155128

>>17155102
Lmao so triggered
>What does that have to do with being cultured?
Are you retarded? What does being "cultured" mean if you do nothing with it? Hitler applied his knowledge.
> Being a dictator and conquering Europe is the furthest thing from cultured I can imagine.
That's because your idea of cultured is that of the modern bugman.
>So far all you've shown is that he read a few books that a lot of people have read.
Not many have read as many books as intensively as Hitler had, nor the particular combination of works/authors he had read.
>Show some evidence other than a quote from Adolf's twinkboy or shut up
It's well documented anon, you can look it up yourself, that would make you seem more coherent than calling people you don't like gay. Yawn.

>> No.17155222

>>17155128
>What does being "cultured" mean if you do nothing with it?
Stop shifting goal posts. I never said being cultured was an admirable thing in and of itself, but the claim was that Hitler was one of the most cultured men of the 20th century. His "achievements" as a politician are not relevant.
>That's because your idea of cultured is that of the modern bugman
No, it's someone who contributes to the culture of society as well as understanding the culture that already exists. Hitler did not create anything of value; he only destroyed.
>you can look it up, so many sources, we've got the best sources, the very best sources
then link them.

>> No.17155241

>>17155222
>but the claim was that Hitler was one of the most cultured men of the 20th century.
Which you tried to counter by arguing for a definition of cultured which is arbitrary. You're the one who set the wrong goalposts initially.
>His "achievements" as a politician are not relevant.
Yes they are. They were based on his knowledge of man and the world. Without his being "cultured" he would not have been the politician he was.
>No, it's someone who contributes to the culture of society as well as understanding the culture that already exists.
Correct, which those "thousands of humanities majors who knew this shit " didn't do. Or we would know of them now.
>Hitler did not create anything of value; he only destroyed.
Redddit tier take, come back when you've read some more history books.
>then link them.
Me? Doing legwork for a lazy baiter? No, you can look them up yourself and be productive.

>> No.17155278

>>17155241
if you want to redefine words to mean things they don't mean, then yes, any statement can be true. But I'm not interested in doing that. You and I both know what cultured means, and nothing Hitler did politically counts. He may have been familiar with culture others created (although I'm still skeptical as to the extent), but he himself created none, and so it's quite ridiculous to include him among the most cultured men of the 20th century.

>> No.17155314

>>17155278
>if you want to redefine words to mean things they don't mean
That's what you've been doing the entire time, Hasbara.
>You and I both know what cultured means, and nothing Hitler did politically counts.
Still untrue. You cannot separate the two. And apparently cultured has a very narrow meaning to you, so no, we don't.
>he himself created none
Absolutely retarded take. The fact that there's been a major effort to erase his creations from the record of history doesn't mean he didn't create. You just outed yourself as an absolute brainlet.

>> No.17155325

>>17151175
None yet. I don't usually read before work; I like to spend an hour or two reading in the evening to wind down once the hard or annoying parts of the day are over with.

>> No.17155345

>>17155314
>cultured has the very narrow meaning of relating to culture
Lol ok I'll bite. What's your definition of cultured, and how does Hitler embody it!

>> No.17155606

>>17153405
The tips I've seen include but aren't limited to
>Reading through the index/appendix
>Reading the first line in every paragraph in a chapter before reading the chapter
>Reading the final chapter first
>Reading a summary of the work online
And other similar bullshit that apparently just works

>> No.17155692

>>17154838
Seethe more, Chang.

>> No.17155708

>>17155692
Projecting much? Neck yourself, cunt.

>> No.17155717

Today, I read nothing.

>> No.17155727

>>17155708
Name me an intellectual that’s worth reading. Otherwise, you’re just a seething commie or an unironic smoothbrain.

>> No.17156112

35 pages or so. 10 of the Gita, 25 to finish Be Not Content, an autobiographical piece from the 60s about being an acid-freak. turned into some pretty sad scared-straight stuff toward the end.

>> No.17156330

>>17151296
You get different information depending on how you process the text. You can parse it into the most obvious coherent structure and move on, which means you take everything literally and optimize for speed and pattern recognition. Or you can take more time to make connections and consider different angles, which interferes with your ability to recognize patterns in any single context, because you have to deal with a higher volume of isolated ideas

>> No.17156378

0 pages. It might be something autistic, but I'm waiting for the first of January to start something, so that I won't have a book split between the two years. The only thing that I'm pretty much reading right now is Berserk.

>> No.17156446

>>17151175

None :)