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[Anonymous No.16882021]

>having an irrational fear or hatred of the Urantia papers

Are you Urantiaphobic?

[The Infinity of God No.16882052]

2:1.2."There is but one God, the infinite Father, who is also a faithful Creator." "The divine Creator is also the Universal Disposer, the source and destiny of souls. He is the Supreme Soul, the Primal Mind, and the Unlimited Spirit of all creation." "The great Controller makes no mistakes. He is resplendent in majesty and glory." "The Creator God is wholly devoid of fear and enmity. He is immortal, eternal, self-existent, divine, and bountiful." "How pure and beautiful, how deep and unfathomable is the supernal Ancestor of all things!" "The Infinite is most excellent in that he imparts himself to men. He is the beginning and the end, the Father of every good and perfect purpose." "With God all things are possible; the eternal Creator is the cause of causes."

[Anonymous No.16882130]

If you are interested in the truth about God, religion, the meaning of life, then this book is a must read. Even if you dont believe its superhuman authorship the book should still be appreciated for its advanced writing style; its cosmology is more sophisticated than the best of science-fiction or fantasy works.

[Anonymous No.16882175]

This is based, isnt it so?

5:4.1.The morality of the religions of evolution drives men forward in the God quest by the motive power of fear. The religions of revelation allure men to seek for a God of love because they crave to become like him. But religion is not merely a passive feeling of "absolute dependence" and "surety of survival"; it is a living and dynamic experience of divinity attainment predicated on humanity service.
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5:4.2.The great and immediate service of true religion is the establishment of an enduring unity in human experience, a lasting peace and a profound assurance. With primitive man, even polytheism is a relative unification of the evolving concept of Deity; polytheism is monotheism in the making. Sooner or later, God is destined to be comprehended as the reality of values, the substance of meanings, and the life of truth.
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5:4.3.God is not only the determiner of destiny; he is man's eternal destination. All nonreligious human activities seek to bend the universe to the distorting service of self; the truly religious individual seeks to identify the self with the universe and then to dedicate the activities of this unified self to the service of the universe family of fellow beings, human and superhuman.

[Anonymous No.16882254]

i channeled a spirit that informed me this book is nonsense sorry

[Anonymous No.16882309]

>>16882254
(0:12.12) Successive planetary revelations of divine truth invariably embrace the highest existing concepts of spiritual values as a part of the new and enhanced co-ordination of planetary knowledge. Accordingly, in making these presentations about God and his universe associates, we have selected as the basis of these papers more than one thousand human concepts representing the highest and most advanced planetary knowledge of spiritual values and universe meanings. Wherein these human concepts, assembled from the God-knowing mortals of the past and the present, are inadequate to portray the truth as we are directed to reveal it, we will unhesitatingly supplement them, for this purpose drawing upon our own superior knowledge of the reality and divinity of the Paradise Deities and their transcendent residential universe.

[Anonymous No.16882641]

What is this book supposed to do for me? I have a lot of stuff to read that has a practical application. Is there a practical application to reading the Urantia book or can I safely ignore it?

[Anonymous No.16883432]

>>16882641
Religion is the supreme attainment, the most important striving which affects all other aspects of life.

100:6.6.One of the most amazing earmarks of religious living is that dynamic and sublime peace, that peace which passes all human understanding, that cosmic poise which betokens the absence of all doubt and turmoil. Such levels of spiritual stability are immune to disappointment. Such religionists are like the Apostle Paul, who said: "I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor anything else shall be able to separate us from the love of God."

[Anonymous No.16883548]

>>16882641
102:2.8.Again, there are other types of unstable and poorly disciplined souls who would use the sentimental ideas of religion as an avenue of escape from the irritating demands of living. When certain vacillating and timid mortals attempt to escape from the incessant pressure of evolutionary life, religion, as they conceive it, seems to present the nearest refuge, the best avenue of escape. But it is the mission of religion to prepare man for bravely, even heroically, facing the vicissitudes of life. Religion is evolutionary man's supreme endowment, the one thing which enables him to carry on and "endure as seeing Him who is invisible."

[Anonymous No.16883715]

>>16882052
Empty platitudes without rigorous philosophical foundation to their meaning and implication of that meaning.
By just throwing random terms at "God" all you do is create a pile of shit without meaning.

[Anonymous No.16883814]

>>16882052
>There is but one God
Wrong. The book contradicts this itself by saying it's the source of sourceS.
>the Primal Mind
A mind implies intellection which implies plurality, which means all minds are secondary for something to think has to exist before thought; even if that thought is of itself there's a plurality and therefore not the true Primal (which does not think).
>>16882175
>polytheism is monotheism in the making
Nope. Monotheism and Polytheism are protestant fabrications with no basis in ancient theology, even the midwit Augustine recognized this, one would think the angels should know this.
>identify the self with the universe
Pantheism need no serious refutation anymore, only insults.
>transcendent residential universe
OH look another universe! But how does this work if God is this universe? (Since God is supposedly the highest self and telos and I'm meant to identify with the universe then logically that which I am to identify with, ultimately, is also God.

[Anonymous No.16884316]

>>16883814
How is monotheism and polytheism protestant inventions?

[Anonymous No.16884356]

>>16883715
>By just throwing random terms at "God" all you do is create a pile of shit without meaning.
It goes through this in the foreword.

GOD is a word symbol designating all personalizations of Deity. The term requires a different definition on each personal level of Deity function and must be still further redefined within each of these levels, as this term may be used to designate the diverse co-ordinate and subordinate personalizations of Deity; for example: the Paradise Creator Sons—the local universe fathers.
0:2.7
The term God, as we make use of it, may be understood:
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By designation—as God the Father.
0:2.9
By context—as when used in the discussion of some one deity level or association. When in doubt as to the exact interpretation of the word God, it would be advisable to refer it to the person of the Universal Father.
0:2.10
The term God always denotes personality. Deity may, or may not, refer to divinity personalities.
0:2.11
The word GOD is used, in these papers, with the following meanings:
0:2.12
1. God the Father—Creator, Controller, and Upholder. The Universal Father, the First Person of Deity.
0:2.13
2. God the Son—Co-ordinate Creator, Spirit Controller, and Spiritual Administrator. The Eternal Son, the Second Person of Deity.
0:2.14
3. God the Spirit—Conjoint Actor, Universal Integrator, and Mind Bestower. The Infinite Spirit, the Third Person of Deity.
https://bigbluebook.org/0/2/

[Anonymous No.16884394]

>>16884316
They aren't mutually exclusive, there's for example no word for 'monotheism' in ancient greek rather "Monoarchy" is used, but all major polytheistic theologies are monarchical. And all "monotheist" religions are polytheistic, the main difference is the right to ""worship"" the lesser gods or not.

[Anonymous No.16884420]

>>16884356
>trinitarianism
definitely the inane babble by a protestant offshoot

[Anonymous No.16884426]

>>16884420
How so? According to them its the most sophisticated conception of monotheism.

[Anonymous No.16884733]

>>16883814
>A mind implies intellection which implies plurality, which means all minds are secondary for something to think has to exist before thought; even if that thought is of itself there's a plurality and therefore not the true Primal (which does not think).
My thoughts and my mind are one. how dumb can you be to not realize that thoughts and mind are the same thing? since the thoughts in my mind are many it means that also reality would be complex. Therefore it is logical to conclude that there would be other "universes" other than this one.

[Anonymous No.16884782]

>>16884356
>https://bigbluebook.org/0/2/
4. God the Supreme—the actualizing or evolving God of time and space. Personal Deity associatively realizing the time-space experiential achievement of creature-Creator identity. The Supreme Being is personally experiencing the achievement of Deity unity as the evolving and experiential God of the evolutionary creatures of time and space.
0:2.16
5. God the Sevenfold—Deity personality anywhere actually functioning in time and space. The personal Paradise Deities and their creative associates functioning in and beyond the borders of the central universe and power-personalizing as the Supreme Being on the first creature level of unifying Deity revelation in time and space. This level, the grand universe, is the sphere of the time-space descension of Paradise personalities in reciprocal association with the time-space ascension of evolutionary creatures.
0:2.17
6. God the Ultimate—the eventuating God of supertime and transcended space. The second experiential level of unifying Deity manifestation. God the Ultimate implies the attained realization of the synthesized absonite-superpersonal, time-space-transcended, and eventuated-experiential values, co-ordinated on final creative levels of Deity reality.
0:2.18
7. God the Absolute—the experientializing God of transcended superpersonal values and divinity meanings, now existential as the Deity Absolute. This is the third level of unifying Deity expression and expansion. On this supercreative level, Deity experiences exhaustion of personalizable potential, encounters completion of divinity, and undergoes depletion of capacity for self-revelation to successive and progressive levels of other-personalization. Deity now encounters, impinges upon, and experiences identity with, the Unqualified Absolute.

[Anonymous No.16884799]

>>16883814
>Pantheism

103:8.6.Philosophy, to be of the greatest service to both science and religion, should avoid the extremes of both materialism and pantheism. Only a philosophy which recognizes the reality of personality—permanence in the presence of change—can be of moral value to man, can serve as a liaison between the theories of material science and spiritual religion. Revelation is a compensation for the frailties of evolving philosophy.
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118:6.8.To recognize Deity omnipotence is to enjoy security in your experience of cosmic citizenship, to possess assurance of safety in the long journey to Paradise. But to accept the fallacy of omnificence is to embrace the colossal error of pantheism.

[Anonymous No.16884805]

>>16884733
The divine mind has all of reality in its head and therefore it is one. That this mind begets its son does not mean that it is other than it is, because it always had its mind and thoughts before and after it thinks them. What is freedom? It is before things happen therefore it contains all potentiality. But freedom is still part of the self. It is not other than what it is. Plurality comes from the one because the many comes from the one.

[Anonymous No.16884877]

The Urantia book inspired me to read the Guru Granth Sahib.

92:5.15.7. The fifteenth century after Christ. This period witnessed two religious movements: the disruption of the unity of Christianity in the Occident and the synthesis of a new religion in the Orient. In Europe institutionalized Christianity had attained that degree of inelasticity which rendered further growth incompatible with unity. In the Orient the combined teachings of Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism were synthesized by Nanak and his followers into Sikhism, one of the most advanced religions of Asia.

[Anonymous No.16884917]

>>16884877
Sikhism is beyond based.
Its christianity with the warrior tradition still intact

[Anonymous No.16884978]

>>16884917
They have cool music too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WdOZiVjLj8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPvpETZzfKc

[Anonymous No.16885480]

[Anonymous No.16885563]

>>16882021
based

[Anonymous No.16885575]

>>16882021
So is this just the cool version of Theosophy or can I get a quick rundown?

[Anonymous No.16885578]

>>16883814
Based Plotinusposter. Leaving this thread now

[Anonymous No.16885601]

>>16884426
if you're gonna be christian (I'm not) you can only be one of the orthodoxies, all other forms are self-refuting.
https://youtu.be/AZdRktLKZmU

[Anonymous No.16885653]

>>16885601
I cant get into this now but no.
Protestanism is most based.

>>16885575
Later, if the threads still up.

[Anonymous No.16885781]

>>16883814
Utterly based plotinus poster. Go read the Enneads and not this sci fi