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16846622 No.16846622 [Reply] [Original]

what is the most based ethical system?

>> No.16846687

Unironically virtue ethics. Aristotle was terrifyingly ahead of his time and all subsequent models of ethics have just been recursively guiding the less capable to his own conclusions.

>> No.16846686

>>16846622

solipsism, by default

>> No.16846692

>>16846687
This is true

>> No.16846713

>>16846622
Judeo-Satanism

>> No.16846721

>>16846622
the one where god is love

Live, Laugh, Love

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>>16846622
Black Rule

>> No.16847132

>>16846761
need a resume of this masterpiece

>> No.16848206

>>16846622
virtue
>>16846687

>> No.16848228

>>16846713
gnostism?

>> No.16848254

>>16846622
Egoism for myself, slavish adherence to my principles for everyone else.

>> No.16848262

Ethical nihilism

>> No.16849758

>>16846687
This

>> No.16849776

whatever keeps me out of trouble

>> No.16849805

>>16846622
non violence

>> No.16849932

>>16846686
Every faggot here already follows that.

>> No.16849947

>>16846713
According to Jesus, that's basically Christianity in a nutshell.
Rev 2:9
Rev 3:9
Matt 15:24

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>>16846622

>> No.16850046

>>16850027
Truly he was the patron saint of midwits

>> No.16850069

>>16846622
No system. All systems have loopholes. Nature is intrinsically ethical.

>> No.16850081

>>16847132
half sissy white boi afraid of his fake girlfriend get caugth by black revolutionaires.
half gay sex with bsdm and black gang rape.
at end blacks get girl and go.

>> No.16850088

>>16850046
kek hard
selfhelp founding father

>> No.16850101

>>16850046
Wit is the mark of a good man, but not the cause. They are pensioners of the good they produce for society. He's right, you know: Good men do not toil over their goodness. It does not follow that putting a stop to toiling over goodness creates a good man, however.

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>>16850046
Imagine being so much of an insufferable faggot you need an ethical system more complicated than 'don't be a dick'.
It's a good thing no one here is like that

>> No.16850138

>>16846713
Bit redundant.

>> No.16850139

>>16846687
Over 2000 years later and this remains true.

>> No.16850176

>>16850027
I hate using Reddit as an insult but stoicism is as Reddit as it gets. Also it's no longer relevant in current year

>> No.16850185

>>16850128
Stoicism provides a few valuable "golden rules" for daily life but using it as the basis for your ethical system is retarded

>> No.16850210

>>16850185
>using it as the basis for your ethical system is retarded
Ok good justification, I genuflect!

>> No.16850222

Christian existentialism

>> No.16850228

And of his fulness we all have received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses; grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

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16850248

3 things
beatings
discipline
heavy-handedness

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16850253

The negation of it.

>> No.16850328

>>16850210
>“You desire to LIVE "according to Nature"? Oh, you noble Stoics, what fraud of words! Imagine to yourselves a being like Nature, boundlessly extravagant, boundlessly indifferent, without purpose or consideration, without pity or justice, at once fruitful and barren and uncertain: imagine to yourselves INDIFFERENCE as a power—how COULD you live in accordance with such indifference? To live—is not that just endeavouring to be otherwise than this Nature? Is not living valuing, preferring, being unjust, being limited, endeavouring to be different? And granted that your imperative, "living according to Nature," means actually the same as "living according to life"—how could you do DIFFERENTLY? Why should you make a principle out of what you yourselves are, and must be? In reality, however, it is quite otherwise with you: while you pretend to read with rapture the canon of your law in Nature, you want something quite the contrary, you extraordinary stage-players and self-deluders! In your pride you wish to dictate your morals and ideals to Nature, to Nature herself, and to incorporate them therein; you insist that it shall be Nature "according to the Stoa," and would like everything to be made after your own image, as a vast, eternal glorification and generalism of Stoicism! With all your love for truth, you have forced yourselves so long, so persistently, and with such hypnotic rigidity to see Nature FALSELY, that is to say, Stoically, that you are no longer able to see it otherwise—and to crown all, some unfathomable superciliousness gives you the Bedlamite hope that BECAUSE you are able to tyrannize over yourselves—Stoicism is self-tyranny—Nature will also allow herself to be tyrannized over: is not the Stoic a PART of Nature?... But this is an old and everlasting story: what happened in old times with the Stoics still happens today, as soon as ever a philosophy begins to believe in itself. It always creates the world in its own image; it cannot do otherwise; philosophy is this tyrannical impulse itself, the most spiritual Will to Power, the will to "creation of the world," the will to the causa prima.”

Nietzsche in Beyond Good and Evil. Sums up my thoughts pretty well

Also living according to nature is not healthy in a world like ours where everything modern life is anything BUT natural. I could go on but hopefully that is enough of a justification for you

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>>16850328
>Also living according to nature is not healthy in a world like ours where everything modern life is anything BUT natural.
What about pic related. Stoicism is what built him after 10 years in the pen. What could be more "unnatural" than 14 months in lockdown? 8 months in solitary?

>I could go on but hopefully that is enough of a justification for you
Thank you for responding, that was a fascinating read! I have all Nietzche's works but have only read his metaphysical stuff. Finishing Camus' works now.

>> No.16850521

>>16846687
This, but we need to remember that Aristotle's ethics were incomplete, which is the reason there were even attempts to formulate other models.

Thankfully Ayn Rand finished what he started and closed the book on philosophy. All that is left is to choose to live correctly or not.

>> No.16850547

>>16846622
Self-determination: always act to increase independence or the illusion thereof.

>> No.16851149

>>16850476
Really? I made the argument that modern life is so out of touch with man's natural state in a healthy society so that passively accepting and living according to this world's lifestyle is defeatist and submissive - unless you pull a Ted kaczynski maybe. And you reply talking about how a guy turned into a body builder by making the most out of prison by using a stoic attitude? Also the problem with the modern world has nothing to do with lockdown, shit was fucked before covid and it will be fucked after covid. Technology and capitalism are some of the main culprits but I'm not going to go into a reactionary rant. Tbh living in prison is probably a more natural condition for a man's lifestyle than being part of regular society.

>> No.16851232

>>16851149
Sorry, but you aren't familiar with his work. You should have just said so.