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>Mother, it's me, Gregor!
>I turned myself into a cockroach mother!
>I'm cockroach Gregor!

>> No.16805720

Livin' like a bug ain't easy.

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>> No.16805790

Did anyone else read the book and not get anything out of it?

>> No.16805793

He was NOT a cockroach!

>> No.16805809

>>16805774
very shroydian

>> No.16805946

>>16805790
I honestly cannot imagine a human being getting nothing out of it

>> No.16805947

>>16805793
He was le depresso el loser :(

>> No.16805965

Question: were the three boarders at the apartment supposed to be Jews?

>> No.16805999

>>16805946
What about a cockroach?

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>>16805999
>cockroach
Next question: what insect? Commentators say cockroach, which of course does not make sense. A cockroach is an insect that is flat in shape with large legs, and Gregor is anything but flat: he is convex on both sides, belly and back, and his legs are small. He approaches a cockroach in only one respect: his coloration is brown. That is all. Apart from this he has a tremendous convex belly divided into segments and a hard rounded back suggestive of wing cases. In beetles these cases conceal flimsy little wings that can be expanded and then may carry the beetle for miles and miles in a blundering flight. Curiously enough, Gregor the beetle never found out that he had wings under the hard covering of his back. (This is a very nice observation on my part to be treasured all your lives. Some Gregors, some Joes and Janes, do not know that they have wings.) Further, he has strong mandibles. He uses these organs to turn the key in a lock while standing erect on his hind legs, on his third pair of legs (a strong little pair), and this gives us the length of his body, which is about three feet long. In the course of the story he gets gradually accustomed to using his new appendages—his feet, his feelers. This brown, convex, dog-sized beetle is very broad.

In the original German text the old charwoman calls him Mistkäfer, a "dung beetle." It is obvious that the good woman is adding the epithet only to be friendly. He is not, technically, a dung beetle. He is merely a big beetle. (I must add that neither Gregor nor Kafka saw that beetle any too clearly.)

>> No.16806036

>>16806025
Okay, but what can a cockroach get out of the story?

>> No.16806047

>>16806036
A visceral sense of superiority over the poor persecuted beetle

>> No.16806048

>>16805655
Heh that's actually pretty funny, OP. Have an upvote! ;)

>> No.16806051

>>16805774
What the fuck is a MF?

>> No.16806188

>>16805946
I'm sorry, what was I supposed to get from it? The feelings of rejection by your own family? The parasitic relationship with the family before they're forced to actually stop being bums and work for a living since he turned into a bug? The death of their son convincing them to go outside and celebrate and think on how their daughter is becoming a woman? I don't get the purpose of this novel.

>> No.16806200

>>16806188
not everything has to have 'purpose' or 'ideas' or 'morals', only the lowest forms of literature put emphasis on those

>> No.16806226

>>16806200
Regardless, I feel like I'm missing something here that I should have "got". It's the same with The Castle, it's just pointless conversations and relationships and objectives that never go anywhere. I can say something similar about The Trial, the protagonist is an uptight jew degenerate banker who fucks bitches when he should be focusing on this case that nobody even knows what it's about, even when he's about to be executed for some unknown reason he's mad that they aren't the right people for the job. I just don't like his protagonists or the fact that women throw themselves at them or the fact that there's pages of texts conveying conversations that are irrelevant to the story.

>> No.16806324

>>16806226
I need answers god damn it

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>> No.16806343

>>16806226
kek admins enabled his consciousness function

>> No.16806923

>>16806051
mother fucker

>> No.16807227

We could have saved him, bros

I feel so bad

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>> No.16808102

>>16806051
Male Feminist