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>>16789472
God I fucking hate trannies

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>> No.16789485

>>16789467
??

>> No.16789486

>>16789481
This comic is more terrifying to me than most SciFi horror out there.

>> No.16789491

>>16789485
i think the book means a fat woman, but fat women dont have good personality i dont even know

>> No.16789505

>>16789485
fat women have to get a good personality because they wont survive solely on their looks, retard

>> No.16789514

>>16789491
>but fat women dont have good personality i dont even know
exactly

>>16789505
see above lol

>> No.16789565

>>16789514
>>16789491
In the olden days before feminism they all did.

>> No.16789577

>>16789565
that's sad

>> No.16789581

>>16789565
fair enough, maybe society changed in such a way that fat women don't need looks and dont need good personality anymore to get ahead in our society

>> No.16789587

>>16789467
I dont know what book is this, but I know for a fact its written by DFW

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>> No.16789682

>>16789477
Am I a retard or is this actually profound?

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>> No.16789705

>>16789634
I feel bad for the black guy, he doesn't deserve this

>> No.16789717

>>16789690
The most unrealistic part of this is the fact that some random bullies knew how to pronounce "stoic" correctly

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>> No.16789724

>>16789717
We learn about stoicism at age 15 in my country.

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>>16789472
>her platform puts my life in danger
Excellent.

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>>16789451
I got this gett, and I met the other anon in another thread who said he will be remembered forever for getting the other gett so that means we will both be remembered forever.

>> No.16789745

>>16789639
Kekked, a very good meme.

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OC

It's not very good, but please tell me if you like it.

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>> No.16789814

>>16789581
They still have good personalities. The kinda pudgy motherly ones.

>> No.16789837

>>16789764
Kinda forced, but the pol crowd will still like it

>> No.16789846

>>16789682
>Am I a retard or is this actually profound?
i'm going to steal this sentence and use it everywhere now, kek

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classic

>> No.16789864

>>16789717
That’s the joke you autist

>> No.16789867

>>16789849
This becomes far less funny when you realise it was written in the last decade.

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>> No.16789955

>>16789690
>>16789717
>>16789724
>People here don't actually encounter the word stoic before understanding it as a philosophical movement

>> No.16789979

>>16789467
what book?

>> No.16789999

>>16789741
I saw that exchange.

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>> No.16790031

>>16790003
>thotkang, nigga of Thundercracka
holy
kekked, zozzled and bazoo'd for good measure

>> No.16790059

>>16789955
always nice to have a reminder about the absolute state of this board

>> No.16790062

>>16789999
checked

>> No.16790077

the real joke is the guy that opens these threads every time he sees them and chuckles silently in his dark room at memes he has seen many times before

>> No.16790079

>>16790077
Hey, who gave you permission to come in my room? Get the fuck out.

>> No.16790092

>>16789867
Of course it was, the events that unfolded are timeless.

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>>16790079
I speak from personal experience

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>>16789701
I like this image

>>16789869
>you were
*thou wast

>>16790077
>>16790103
I report with some disappointment that I didn't laugh at the stoike one this time

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>>16789484
Tfw you taught yourself english with his books

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>>16790280
tangential i guess.
that's it for me

>> No.16790290

>>16790185
>Tfw you taught yourself english with his books
ooof,
Harry Potter school of English representing

>> No.16790308

>>16790290
Yes, here.
I remember how surprised I was when I realised that a "cupboard" is not only the same thing as what I had heard people call "cubbard", but in fact "cubbard" is spelled "cupboard".
"Clothes" also got me. Anglo orthography is truly strange.

>> No.16790315

>>16790288
>anon why did you know about corona so early?
>anon why are you wearing a mask, don't you know masks are dangerous

>> No.16790316

>>16789999
Whew, checked anon. Very fitting.

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A disguise joke for the learnèd

>> No.16790493

>>16789681
Tolkienfags are cringe

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>>16789451

>> No.16790598

>>16789474
kek hard

>> No.16790666

>>16789722
It gets me everytime, thanks anon

>> No.16790674

>>16789999
WITNESSED

>> No.16790687

>>16790594
Kekd

>> No.16790808

>>16789717
Anyone who has heard the word at least once would know it isn't pronounced "stoyk". You're a self-important autist who needs to check how fucking retarded he is.

>> No.16790913

>>16790594
ok, I keked

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>> No.16791191

>>16790182
Is this what going crazy feels like in fact of course?

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>> No.16791736

>>16789999
God is funny

>> No.16791756

>>16790586
Im in that

>> No.16791787

>>16790264
When I read the Communist Manifesto, I only learned about how much I hated Communists

>> No.16791960

>>16791756
How shocking! Neither the thread nor any of the replies are the least bit witty nor funny.

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>>16789481
>I warned you, bro.

>> No.16792047

>>16790280
>tfw I still frequently think about Bionicle lore

>> No.16792072

>>16790264
What if I have read him

>> No.16792149

>>16789682
It would be profound if by the time this comic was made, various autists hadn't already written millions of pages of science fiction, philosophy, pseudo-philosophy, game theory research, political theory, and my little pony fanfiction on this exact subject.

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>>16790103

>> No.16792182

>>16789608
Lmao

>> No.16792186

>>16789999
What did God mean by this?

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>> No.16792218

>>16790288
owen is preddy based

>> No.16792219

>>16792197
Kek

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>> No.16792491

>>16789587
I don't know either but this was my first thought as well lol

>> No.16792517

>>16789682
It's a "utility monster", a legit criticism on ultilitarian ethics, so no, you are right.

>> No.16792541

>>16791756
Let me guess... Gregor, right?

>>16791960
Cum n die

>> No.16792592

>>16789477
>>16789682
>>16792149
>>16792517
https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/paperclip-maximizer

>> No.16792620

>>16792592
>https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/paperclip-maximizer

It's related to the idea of a paperclip maximizer, but that is a thought experiment regarding the dangers of AI, whereas a utility monster is a criticism of a philosophical position.

>> No.16792622

>>16789867
where is it from?

>> No.16792624

>>16792620
Ahh, I see. Thanks for clarifying anon

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>> No.16792646

>>16792629
Lmao, that's fucking accurate

>> No.16792677

>>16792622
seconded

>> No.16792679

>>16792620
A utility monster criticises utilitarianism by supposing there was an organism that was able to be more happy than us, so our rights could be sacrificed so that it could be happy, or something. The comic seems more to be along the lines of "happiness isn't the only important element to existence"

>> No.16792680

>>16789717

This post was made possible by American education.

>> No.16792775

>>16789741
I am the anon in question.

>> No.16792944

>>16789717
Do you legitimately have autism? Jesus Christ I swear half the anons on 4chan are too retarded to get basic jokes

>> No.16792973

>>16790264
Communists haven't read Marx either lmao they literally just read twitter all day and cry about trans rights

>> No.16792987

>>16792620
>less wrong
Holy fuck that website is actually worse than Reddit. Jesus fucking Christ kill yourself if you like that website

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>>16789451

>> No.16793027

>>16789481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC1o9CjeefI

>> No.16793040

>>16789481
Who wouldn't like that? it seems like the best future one could have. Fuck you faggots, I want that.

>> No.16793078

>>16789481
I mean if it's as good as they say then yeah that's cool

>> No.16793084

>>16789701
That's pretty funny

>> No.16793113

>>16789484
please does anyone have the Tolkien version of that "a feminist liberal proffesor was teaching a class on bla bla bla" pasta, I can't find it anywhere

>> No.16793137

>>16789999
Damn you weren't lying

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>>16792999
Czech'd and kek'd

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This will never not be funny to me.

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>>16793113
nvm found an old screenshot of it on my phone
1/2

>> No.16793169

>>16792629
this is so retarded. The only reason people can live close together is because of technological advancements that made cities possible. Sewers, rubbish removal, high rise structures, mechanical transport so no horses etc.

>> No.16793170

>>16792541
Tf is a gregor

>> No.16793188

>>16793169
Wait till you realize that hunter gatherer tribes lived in tight communities and that people have always and will always live near other people because that’s how humans operate.

>> No.16793199

>>16792987
Hey, faggot, I know those guys at RationalWiki left you with deep, permanent scars, but if you'd dive in to the content of the post, nowhere did I imply any legitimacy to the site's content other than the impartial, apolitical article I provided. Go ahead, call me Jewish.

>> No.16793204

>>16789481
>until the suns burns out

What kind of fucking shitass AI overlord did this? If it isn't black hole farming and starlifting the nearby galaxy I'll be pretty goddamn disappointed. That fuck needs to get on setting up some long term solutions. Their hundreds of millions of years is nothing compared to the trillions after the stars burn out. Iron stars or bust.

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>>16793160
2/2

>> No.16793217

>>16793204
The AI was purpose-built before the pinnacle of humanity's intelligence, so It performed its job before any humans could design an AI a tier higher.

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>>16789999

>> No.16793236

>>16791664
now this is erotica i can get behind (pun intended)

>> No.16793244

>>16793169
are you implying that cities didn't exist prior to the automobile

>> No.16793253

>>16793188
yes and those communities were limited in size because of disease and logistical limits, which are solved increasingly by technology allowing more people to live in closer proximity. More tech = closer pple, not the opposite. Is this an actual quote from zizek?

>> No.16793275

>>16793244
cities have increased in size since, partly because of the automobile yes.

>> No.16793314

>>16793253
>he thinks that pic refers to Zizek
Come on now.

>> No.16793337

>>16793253
oh I looked it up, its Kaczynski not zizek, kinda funny they look similar. Still no wonder its sounds retarded its the ramblings of an insane CIA experiment.

>> No.16793383

>>16793040
Slavery to pleasure is what it is

Pathetic and bitchboi in other words

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>>16793314
dude same vibe, especially sideways

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>>16793204

>> No.16793637

>>16790493
You are cringe

>> No.16793653

>>16789701
me 2nd to left :(

>> No.16793661

>>16789687
I feel bad for that anon more than laughing at him. Even though its unlikely it even happened, his classmates seemed like real pricks

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>>16789999

>> No.16793700

Does /lit/ have a Discord for sharing memes?

>> No.16793737

>>16793396
two brothers one struggle

>> No.16793754

>>16789979
Midnight Riot by Ben Aaronovitch

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>>16793700
Imagine the smell.

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>> No.16793941

>>16793199
You're not a Jew you're a faggot neckbeard. "I fucking love science!" - You

>> No.16794161

>>16790264
Lol. You do not want people to actually read Kapital. The more people read it. The more will know with a certainty that its trash and only barely relevent to its own era.

>> No.16794173

>>16792047
Lol. Were you in that blessed /tg/ thread the other day too?

>> No.16794184

>>16794161
I'm not a cummie, I just saved it cuz it's funny

>> No.16794192

>>16793170
>he doesn't know

>> No.16794201

>>16794184
Bless you then.

>> No.16794202

>>16789999
Witnessed

>> No.16794331

>>16789701
Kek

>> No.16794665

>>16793789
Based

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>>16789486
>>16792041
>>16792517
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO WE SHOULDN'T MAXIMIZE HAPPINESS BECAUSE THAT HURTS MY FEEFEES

>> No.16794815

>>16794809
>C ΠM G E N V S
>cum gobbler
please stop typing in all caps.

>> No.16794875

>>16789999
And now you are part of it.

>> No.16794918

>>16794809
lol

>> No.16794921

>>16789690
got me

>> No.16794972

>>16790103
life is very difficult

>> No.16795007

>>16792629
holy based

>> No.16795024

>>16789486
I agree the popularity of that art style is horrifying and a disgrace to humanity

>> No.16795029

>>16793565
Im no physicist but....

>> No.16795048

>>16794810
>NOOOOOOOOOO I NEED TO BE HAPPY ELSE I'M SAD

>> No.16795065

>>16794810
Bad bait

>> No.16795084

>>16789481
alright, i get it, i need to leave the chan and games and everything "not real"

>> No.16795174

>>16789999
off by one

>> No.16795178

>>16789999
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT!

>> No.16795241

>>16789701
>Tfw you're the first guy
It's hard, bros

>> No.16795357

>>16795241
Tripfags are all #5. Digits confirm.

>> No.16795367

>>16795357
nvm off to kill myself. It was I who was #5.

>> No.16795550

>>16789764
topical and not save worthy but thanks for making content bro

>> No.16795574

>>16793941
>"If you don't EXPRESSLY condemn this shitty website, that means you like and/or agree with everything it says! I suck cocks by the way"
- (You)

>> No.16795599

>>16790182
I found this a fascinating read.

>> No.16795702

>>16793007
kek

>> No.16795710

>>16789451
Anyone got the Kant pitching a tent greentext?

>> No.16795776

>>16790103
>i want you to perform the transaction now
I fucking lost it holy shit

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>>16792622
The Prestige

>> No.16795906

>>16789484
“Broke his fast” was the only one that stood out to me while reading. At least it enlightened me on the etymology of breakfast, but man Martin really overuses that phrase. The bigger problem is how often a character’s breakfast is mentioned.

>> No.16795922

>>16789867
Released in 1995
>>16792622
>>16792677
The Prestige, Christopher Priest

>> No.16795936

The truth is, I'm illiterate as fuck but I enjoy the humor here because I can understand it.

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>> No.16796229

>>16789481
Someone make me an argument for why this is not a good way to live? I'd take this in a heartbeat.

>> No.16796271

>>16789477
I don’t get it

>> No.16796401

>>16796271
tl;dr utilitarianism bad

>> No.16796404

>>16796111
Was it ever uploaded?

>> No.16796439

>>16796111
The hilarity of asking for help editing and giving them a .pdf is enormous.

>> No.16796442

>>16796111
pretty funny. I'd actually read that if it could somehow be whittled down to less than 150 pages

>> No.16796453

>>16796442
I'd actually send it to one of my professors if I could get the full thing.

>> No.16796457

>>16792999
I'm still waiting for the book to come out.

>> No.16796518

>>16796401
What is utilitarianism

>> No.16796663

>>16793337
>retard who thought Ted Kaczynski was Slavoj Zizek has the temerity to call Ted Kaczynski a retard and insane.
Lmao you fucking narcissist, read a book.

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>>16789999
witnessed

>> No.16796705

>>16792775
Based, did you see the other anon's so close gett itt?

>> No.16796741

>>16789481
viscerally putrid

>> No.16796752

>>16796705
It was impressive and very nice

>> No.16796799

>>16789467
I remember reading this. Somebody source it.

>> No.16796844

>>16796799
It's from a little know gem by the name of my diary desu.

>> No.16796867

>>16796844
Has a book been published by that name yet?

>> No.16796878

>>16789587
Nope. Contemporary book in 2011 by Ben Aaronovitch (involved in Dr. Who).
>>16789979
>>16796799
Rivers of London (UK) / Midnight Riot as >>16793754 mentioned (US) by Aaronovitch.
Source: Googled in quotes.

>> No.16796899

>>16796878
>Midnight Riot
Cool but worth reading?

>> No.16796922

>>16796229
A switch gets flipped and you’re in eternal hell instead

>> No.16796943

>>16796229
Because it's not really living without life experiences. What this does is essentially boiling life down to a couple of chemicals.

>> No.16796958

>>16790308
The great thing about being white is that you can imperialise literally everything. Your language? That's mine now. Being English is the best.

>> No.16797009

>>16796958
Fusion food in Portland is the epitome of this.

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>>16789999
Hmmm

>> No.16797505

>>16796111
did we ever get the pdf?

>> No.16797571

>>16789481
Who create this?

>> No.16797674

>>16789764
I saved it.

>> No.16797799

>>16789481
>if god loves us why didn't god model reality after what this comic represents
t.reddit

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>>16789481
The first Matrix was a mistake

>> No.16797830

>>16789682
Bolth.

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>>16796111
Does this remind anybody else of ANOTHER story an Anon told about dragons having sex?

This was a few years ago. There was supposedly an Anon who worked as a pencil pusher a major publisher, and a really well-written manuscript for a fantasy novel crossed his desk. However, one of its central conceits was that it featured a hero who has sex with a dragon. Anyway, supposedly his managing editor got hold of it after he'd passed it along and declared that the book would be "the next Game Of Thrones." The Anon said we'd know it when we saw it.

Has any book where the hero has sex with a dragon come out in the last couple of years?

>> No.16798007

>>16793160
What's the name of this meme? I need all of them.

>> No.16798035

>>16795906
>page long descriptions of every single meal the characters eat regardless of the plot.
I meam, have you looked at GRRM?

>> No.16798042

>>16796943
God i wish you fucks would get beyond metaphorical language and thought terminating clichés already.
WHAT distinguishes chemicals induced by counterfeit experiences from chemicals induced by real experiences? Don't both boil down to qualia? Is there any meaningful distinction to be made here or you just want me to buy your shitty self help book?

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>>16789701
hey no personal insults

>> No.16798053

>>16789481
I, someone who finds self-fulfillment in life through meaningless hardship and constant struggle, feel morally superior to those who empathize with the sentiments expressed in this webcomic.

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>>16793007

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>>16798042

>> No.16798086

>>16792592
>>16792620
It's fucking Nozick's utility monster you ignorami.

Unironically posting anything from less wrong... fucking hell.

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>>16798074

>> No.16798120

>>16798074
Donald is making fun of Mickey's reductio ad absurdum here. His speech in panel 2 is meaningless drivel.
It
>begins the exchange with a personal attack by calling him a hypocrite. Bad-faith criticism and a good way of starting off discussion on the wrong foot
>uses metaphorical language to obscure their discourse. Why use the phrase "you trust the chemicals in your brain to tell you they are chemicals?" It makes your opponent look like a retard for trusting inanimate objects. Yet obviously, this is based on objective reality, on our observations regarding material reality.
>asserts that "all knowledge is ultimately based on that which we cannot prove," a statement so grotesque and braindead that i refuse to think about it further
>triggers affective response with the challenge to "fight" or "perish like a dog." Fantastic way of admitting you have no arguments, no way of addressing the issue rationally and must challenge the interlocutor regarding his dignity.

This is retarded. But if you do have a book or anything that you can levy against my position, feel free to post it. Unlike you, I am a rational being and am curious as to what my opposition genuinely thinks.

>> No.16798131

>>16798120
if you can't tell by the last panel that this is plainly satirical, you are beyond salvation

>> No.16798135

>>16794810
Do you realize that this condition is no different than death?

>> No.16798177

>>16798131
If you couldnt tell that I was in on it from the first sentence, then the joke is on you.

>> No.16798186

>>16798102
>765 kb
Can you type what they say at least?

>> No.16798188

>>16796799
It's from slaughterhouse 5

>> No.16798192

>>16798177
i posted both of these
>>16798074
>>16798131
why do you expect anything else from a humour thread

>> No.16798197

>>16798188
Shit, no, I'm thinking of
>She was a dull person, but a sensational invitation to make babies

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>> No.16798204

>>16798135
>A living brain with content consciousness is the same as a dead brain with no consciousness
You have been fucking indoctrinated

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>>16794810

>> No.16798217

>>16792437
the new lethal weapon is fantastic (at least the first season), and Riggs has the sexiest hair I've ever seen on a man.

>> No.16798230

>>16798204
No, look, the comic doesn't say "you will be in a simulated reality where you will face adequate struggles but you'll come uot on top and be fulfilled etc. etc." it only speaks of being injected with "pure pleasure" all the fucking time, this is not a "content consciousness", this is just sensory overload. This is no different from being stoned on opium all the time and feeling pleasure but having 0 agency over your consciousness.

>> No.16798258

>>16793565
This is fucking nonsense.

>> No.16798277

>>16798230
Alright, I admit that I deliberately misread the comic to make an inflammatory remark. However, I doubt that sensory overload can be equated with death. Being alive but having 0 agency over your consciousness still means being alive - atleast in a vegitative state, more comparable to plants or simple organisms (frogs).

I could see why people would find this state of eternal (conscious?) vegitation preferable to outright death. My problem with the comic is that it seems to be juxtaposing its cure for death with a model for life (risking personal suffering in order to have an "adventure"). This does kind of muddy the issue.

>> No.16798278

>>16793789
lmao

>> No.16798287

>>16798086
lesswrong is crappy but it's a better fit than nozick for the comic, which is also crappy
the point about utility monsters is that you can't negotiate with them under utilitarianism bc they can blackmail you by manipulating their utility function
this is clearly not what the comic is about; the conceit of the comic is some kind of cross-fertilisation of i) 'fake' happiness vs. 'real' experience, otherwise known as 'wireheading' and ii) paperclip maximisers
these are both lesswrong memes and there are already pre-existing shitty lesswrong fictionposts about them
pls don't make me dig up sources i can't be bothered

>> No.16798311

THE QUESTION IS: WHAT IS THE ONTOLOGICAL STATUS OF INTENT

>> No.16798352

>>16798287
>bc they can blackmail you
Nope.

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>> No.16798437

>>16796111
>penetration dragon sex hot fuck
I can't be the only one who didn't laugh at this at all right? I mean come on how fucking old are /lit/ users to find this funny? Holy shit

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>>16798200
you stole my meme, give it back!

>> No.16798502

>>16795007
>>16793169
>>16792646
>and then they had their right arms and half their faces blown off by an IED

>> No.16798545

>>16796404
>>16797505
Nope. He never followed up. He said that he's brother would get mad if he released a full pdf but I feel like he was just lying

>> No.16798554

>>16797883
I remembered a similar thread but it was within the last year

>> No.16798588

>>16789999
I saw this exchange.

>> No.16798594

>>16793040
>>16793078
>>16796229
>>16798053


This is why you are followers, low on the totem pole and always envying.

>> No.16798602

>>16798594
I follow and envy no one. If you think you disagree with anything expressed in the posts you cite, why don't you try to formulate a positon? I will be happy to read it.

>> No.16798632

>>16793204
>reddit spacing
>reddit phrasing
>reddit thinking
thanks for coming

>> No.16798807

>>16793113
A liberal homosexual feminist Protestant was teaching a class on George R.R. Martin, known hack
”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Gurm and accept that Planetos is the greatest fantasy setting of all time even greater than Arda!”
At this moment, a brave, patriotic, British WW1 veteran who had served 1500 tours of duty on the Somme and understood the necessity of war and fully supported all decisions made by Butcher Haig stood up.
”What are the linguistic differences among the peoples of Westeros?”
The arrogant proddie smirked quite schismatically and smugly replied “There is the Old Tongue and the Common Tongue, you stupid warmonger”
”Wrong. There should be hundreds of dialects. If the Wall is 8000 years old as you say, how can the Wildlings and Northmen understand one another?”
The HBO shill was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of A World of Ice and Fire. He stormed out of the room crying those redditor crocodile tears. The same tears redditors (who today live in such luxury most can afford sex changes) cried when Missandei was beheaded. There is no doubt that at this point our sola scriptura-faggot wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than a garbage pulp fiction fan. He wished so much he could die a glorious death in battle, but he had sworn to always be a draft dodger!
The students applauded and became Tolkien fans that day and accepted the Pope as their Lord and Master. A giant eagle named “Thorondor” flew into the room and perched atop the flag of Gondor and shed a tear on the White Tree. Beowulf was read in the original Old English several times, and Eru Ilúvatar himself showed up and enacted Aragorn's flat rate tax policy across the universe.
The Lutheran was fired the next day and sunset found him squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up he was shitting brown water.

>> No.16798826

>>16790493
no it's you

>> No.16798852

>>16798807
Bravo.

>> No.16798861

>>16795906
I don't mind the excessive food descriptions, but maybe that's just because I read redwall as a kid

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>>16796401
In the end when the happy face reconfigures itself, does that allude that the happy face is still able to experience happiness along with everyone else? If so, the whole universe would be happy and everything would be swell right?

>> No.16798977

>>16798352
>Nope.
did you really think this would btfo me
utility monster is a thought experiment about balancing the desires of different agents under utilitarianism
nothing about the comic has anything to do with balancing the desires of different agents under utilitarianism
you don't know what you're talking about
you are a dumb dumb.

>> No.16799185

>>16789999
What?!?!?!?

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>>16789999
Well God seems to have vindicated you

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>>16789999
Hmmmm

>> No.16800253

>>16800244
Retarded image

>> No.16800269

>>16798807
I was already dying before the last line

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>>16800244
Hmmmm

>> No.16800336

>>16800299
>>16800244
well if trump did it too, then it's even worse

>> No.16800412

>>16798053
>I, someone who finds self-fulfillment in life through meaningless hardship and constant struggle, feel morally superior to those who empathize with the sentiments expressed in this webcomic.
Cope: The Post

>> No.16800414

>>16790003
i love this post so much because

>dem niggas were 2 wyld to keep at bein' clappt
>they were destroyed by their own wild recklessness

>he failed to keep them safe

>tyrone and richmond's versions both recognize the culpability of Odysseus' companions, as they could not reign in their emotions enough to save themselves
>emily wilson blames it all on odysseus because papa odysseus is responsible for everything

>> No.16800430

>>16798287
That is not what utility monsters are, and you would be better off if you didn't get your "explanations" from Big Yud

>> No.16800480

>>16800430
not him, and yeah thats not the formal definition of a utility monster. But if you had to interact with a utility monster, thats how it would go down - it would show how its happiness maximizes utility and then you have no choice if you're a utilitarian

>> No.16800510

>>16796943
So?

>> No.16800542

>>16800480
Interaction is neither here nor there in the thought experiment. A utility monster is simply a reductio of hedonic utilitarianism. Utilitarians either need to adopt something other than subjective pleasure as their measure of utility (e.g. preference utilitarianism), or deny that a utility monster is possible, or accept that a utility monster is actually good.

>> No.16800591

>>16797571
https://twitter.com/merryweatherey/status/1185636106257211392?lang=en

>> No.16800593

>>16790264
I've read Marx. He is a garbage economist, and a garbage philosopher.

>> No.16800612

>>16798042
Well there is none but I thought the machine was just injecting euphoria into your brain without really anything substantive happening, not generating VR or the Matrix.

If it was a virtual world you could do stuff in, that would change my response.

>> No.16800622

>>16800593
Nigga, who asked?

>> No.16800646

>>16798120
>unlike you, I am a rational being
And unlike you, I have a soul.

>> No.16800654

>>16798042
I hope the governors of the future consign you materialist fuckwits to the Pleasure Cubes so the rest of us can live lives free of your simpering reductivism.

>> No.16800661

>>16798120
>>16800646
inb4 4chan is composed soulless of soulless, irrational beings.

>> No.16800727

>>16789999
Epic

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>>16798053
>I, someone who finds self-fulfillment in life through meaningless hardship and constant struggle, feel morally superior to those who empathize with the sentiments expressed in this webcomic.

>> No.16800971

>>16800510
I mean if you would enjoy that good for you but personally I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.

The ultimate tradeoff is any further agency you might have, say if you changed your mind about wanting to be in the chair, seems to vanish when you participate. To me, that's very frightening. There are some valid counter arguments to this, (and counter arguments to those counter arguments and so on) but that's one of the things it would boil down to for me personally.

Unless it was a simulation where one could continue to "live" I feel like I wouldn't want to try it and risk being stuck in an undesirable euphoria, so to speak. >>16798230 puts it well. Essentially being stoned out of your mind without having conscious agency seems like a good way to live for some, but these are some reasons others would not want to live this way. The idea of being a vegetable is not super appealing.

The reality is that some people would like this option and some people would not. It's not for everyone. There's not a perfect answer for everyone because everyone is different (blah blah blah about differing personalities and life experiences) and so on.

>> No.16801016
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>>16800542
>reductio
Harry Potter? Really?

>> No.16801038

>>16801016
Kek

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>>16789999
Checked

>> No.16801175

>>16791605
KEK

>> No.16801260

>>16789481
We need to kill all hedonists.

>> No.16801291

>>16801260
t. has suffering Stockholm Syndrome

>> No.16802447

>>16789682
Based

>> No.16802508

>>16789608
Lol, something you quite never come to think about. Imagine just how destroyed they must be

>> No.16802560

>>16800971
>The reality is that some people would like this option and some people would not. It's not for everyone.
What's scary is that it actually is. Once you're hooked in, you will feel no desire to get out because you have lost control over your brain.
Pain and pleasure are really shitty GOALS to go by in this life, as they are nothing but signals that exist to aid you in achieving your actual goals. Even the animal who is driven by instincts, doesn't feed himself because his goal is to dismiss his hunger. His goal is to feed itself, and hunger aids him. The woman in the comic is driven by a desire for "adventure" which isn't just about pleasure. Pleasure as well as pain while adventuring are nothing but subordinate processes that help the woman in her goal. By accepting the chair she fails in two tasks: she doesn't "try" because there is no "trying" if you cannot back out. She fails in understand that there was never any "trying", she was "submitting". Second, she will never, in fact, adventure again. She will only experience pleasure as if she were adventuring, which means nothing to her.
Overall the girl was really dumb. She should have asked to take a tour of the facility and I'm 100% positive she would have been strongly against "trying" if she did.

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>> No.16802657

>>16798120
>"all knowledge is ultimately based on that which we cannot prove,"
This is true.

>> No.16802678

>>16800299
>>16800244
wake me up from this information war

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16802679

>>16802560
It's the story of the Lotus-eaters from the Odyssey gone wrong! Damn Greeks, two and a half millennia and still going strong.

>> No.16802694

>>16802679
I never made that parallel. Based Greeks.

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>>16800244
>president elect
>briefing
It is, according to mainstream consensus, the president elect briefing. What is wrong or suspicious about this? Retarded burgers make me want to blow my fucking brains out. "Ooga booga designed to maeek you look likie authority" No you fucking retard, there's no intention behind this, that's literally just the natural conclusion of being accorded a title of the kind.

>> No.16802757

>>16798042
I hope we can harvest your brains, put them in eternal euphoria while your cyborg bodies mindlesly do manual labor.

What do you CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU AFTER YOU LOST conscientiousness in real world? Might as well be useful retard

>> No.16802768

>>16789481
Take all those retards in the box, surgically remove their brains while euphoria is going, put it into robot bodies and use it for war and manual labor. They will never be aware of what's happening and death will be like sleep for them.

>> No.16803430

>>16789451

One day, a man worked in his office, and after a while his coworker told him she was having a migraine and that she was going to walk back home. The man, worried about her trying to walk all the way to her house with a migraine, drove her to her home instead.

Later that night, the man went to his home and he and his wife decided to go to a fancy restaurant. After dressing up, they went into the car. As they settled down and buckled their seatbelts, the man noticed a solitary high heel shoe on the passenger side of the car, no doubt belonging to his coworker. Worried about what his wife would think if she saw it, he quickly grabbed the shoe and flung it out the window, without his wife noticing. They then drove off.

As they reached the restaurant, the wife began to squirm a bit. "What's wrong?" the man asked. His wife glanced at him sheepishly. "Have you seen my other shoe? I took them off a while ago, but I can't find one!"

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derp limit imminent

>> No.16803570

>>16798131
what did the last panel mean

>> No.16803902

>>16789477
I hate that artist

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>> No.16804278

>>16789481
I wouldn't mind that

>> No.16804303

>>16789481
"Neurotransmitters are scary" plebs.

>> No.16804313

>>16791787
Read Capital, faggot. If you haven't perused all 2524 pages of the complete 3 volumes don't even comment on communism. The nerve of people to open their goddamn mouths about finance before they've read the entire history of modern economics. Fucking reprobates.

>> No.16804328

>>16792629
>labor efficiency is bad because I get frustrated by noise
holy autism batman

>> No.16804332

>>16792999
well? we're waiting

>> No.16804355

>>16794809
what an absurd thing to say

>> No.16804356

>>16804328
It's the be all end all of false dichotomies.

>> No.16804406

>>16798062
which book is this referring to? Solzhenitsyn has several books credited to his name

>> No.16804416

>>16804406
Obv the one that calls the Russian guards jewish

>> No.16804420

>>16802657
>This is true.
So you admit your assertion that it is true is based on nothing?

>> No.16804426

>>16804416
I haven't read anything by him. I'm too busy reading Marx at the moment

>> No.16804432

>>16804420
I think that's part of the irony.

>> No.16804440

>>16804432
That's just those pesky chemicals in your brain telling you that

>> No.16804442

>>16804426
Read the parts where Marx is a religious apologist because all of the other Young Hegelians are so extremely anti-religion.

>> No.16804451

>>16804440
This is true.

>> No.16804504

>>16792973
that only happens in burgerland kiddo

>> No.16804547

>>16804504
"Wait…it's all…Burgerland?"

"Always has been."

>> No.16804550

>>16804451
Do you have a source on that?

Source?

A source. I need a source.

Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.

No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.

You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.

Do you have a degree in that field?

A college degree? In that field?

Then your arguments are invalid.

No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.

Correlation does not equal causation.

CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.

You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.

Nope, still haven't.

I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.

>> No.16804592

>>16804550
Man crying for source material on the field of scholarly battle, c. 2020

"Source! I need a source!"

>> No.16804601

>>16804550
Lmao

>> No.16804688

>>16789999
what a waste

>> No.16804695
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>>16804550

>> No.16804737

>>16804695
Your PePe looks to be on the verge of lights out

>> No.16804953
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16804953

>>16798135
WTF I love death now

>> No.16805014

>>16804953
CLICKBAIT! CLICKBAIT!

>> No.16805021

>>16789467
Christ

>> No.16805148

>>16790182
jesus christ this guy has 244 fanfictions written in the same style

>> No.16805239

>>16798186
I can read it just fine.

>> No.16805878

Anyone have the post of the guy talking about how “How to Win Friends and Influence People” by Dale Carnegie made him act like a weird old person?

>> No.16805979

>>16805878
Dude I have a really old copy of that book.

>> No.16806059

>>16805979
Pics?