/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16776584]

Serious questions, not trying to nazi troll here-

Has anyone read this? What basis does this have in today’s modern context? What exactly about this inspired Hitler to commit the atrocities that he did? If you’ve read it, did you find it a valid analysis or conspiracy nonsense?

Anyone have any thoughts? I’m curious. So many consider this baseless propaganda, yet many consider it factual warning.

[Anonymous No.16776789]

>>16776584
I’ve had enough eerie synchronism from saying too much about this but all I can say is no one is expelled 100s of times from their host countries except these fellows.

[Anonymous No.16776810]

>>16776584
Oh and to add, never ask questions about this topic here, be independent about your research regarding them and don’t use google to look for anything related to them, as you will quite literally be misdirected. Use duckduckgo instead

[Anonymous No.16778819]

>>16776584
It’s a really good example of the fake news phenomena and how people will still think and defend something as being completely true so long as it affirms emotional truths.

As for Hitler I don’t think we can say that this book inspired it - anti Semitic conspiracy theories were already big in his era.

Interestingly enough it is an interesting example of how the right is far more prone to creating fabricated evidence than the left is - I would be interested to see a study on how conspiracy theory manifests differently in these groups

[Anonymous No.16778857]

>>16778819
doesn't matter if it's fake if it accurately described what has happened. it means the author(s) were privy to insider knowledge regardless.

[Anonymous No.16778871]

>>16776584
Anti-Semitic hogwash.

[Anonymous No.16778929]

>>16778871
Okay neat, now that we have that out of the way could you discuss some of the content of what we're talking about? Neat little useless label you have their friend. Do you feel better now?

[Anonymous No.16778932]

>>16778857
See don’t you think that mindset is interesting? The “it’s real even if it didn’t happen” one.

When you talk about it being accurate so you notice that it’s more about generalities than anything specific ?

[Anonymous No.16778970]

>>16776584
It's probably fake to some extent, but still very accurately describes historical trends. If you want to read something similar that's verified and definitely from the horse's mouth, read pic.

[Anonymous No.16779003]

>>16776584
I will address this issue seriously from a historical standpoint. The powerlevel of the jewish lobby is overrated especially in these boards. If you study history you will see that according to MI6 Israel was a lost cause in 1948, when the araboisraeli wars were about to happen. There are many documents suggesting that the UK and the USA werent willing to sacrifice much for the state of Israel. The jews overachieved by winning the first war.
Even nowadays their power is limited. Obama was throwing money to Netanyahus political opponents. 4chan brainwashed people into this illusion that jews control everything,when in fact their state is fragile and all it would take is some arab or Iranian bombs to end their state and gods chosen people.

[Anonymous No.16779017]

>>16778929
Not really a label when all figures of authority in literature dismiss it as such.

[Anonymous No.16779020]

>>16779003
There is more to the jewish issue than israel. They're the ultimate globalists and play multiple sides. Plus, this was a thing long before it became popular on 4chan.
>Even nowadays their power is limited.
Come on, you don't actually believe this.

[Anonymous No.16779026]

>>16779017
>all figures of authority in literature
Could they perhaps be overwhelmingly jewish themselves?

[Anonymous No.16779033]

>>16776584
It’s fake as fuck but looking at what has happened makes you wonder if the Okhrana agents who wrote it were on to something

[Anonymous No.16779038]

>>16779026
dingdingding
I knew you were an antisemitic from your first post but decided to be fair. Now the thread knows.
Get your hateful crap out od here.

[Anonymous No.16779047]

>>16779038
I'm not the guy you were responding to but whatever. Why is it such a strange notion that jews would be inclined to call out any perceived cricitism? A whole book was written about this.
It's so lazy to just call anything that criticizes jews anti-semitic.

[Anonymous No.16779057]

>>16779047
Non-Jews have no business explaining which things are anti-Semitic and which are not.

[Anonymous No.16779062]

>>16779057
So any jew can just decide something is anti-semitic when he dislikes it? We're not allowed to criticize jews because then we'll get called anti-semitic? You're basically proving the book right.

[Anonymous No.16779088]

>>16779020
Yeah I know it was a thing and still is even among boomers who dont use the internet, but like I said their power is overrated even today. I have seen american news channels like MSNBC (Which is a network with heavy intelligence agencies involvement) being concerned about human rights abuses in Gaza. Hell if Israel was truly powerful all its landgrabs would have been recognised worldwide. It isnt. 100 jew billionaires are barely keeping it alive now.

[Anonymous No.16779099]

>>16779062
Jews know antisemitism better than anyone, which shouldn't be a surprise (to most).
And no, Jews don't use it to silence opposition. Ever heard of boy who cried wolf?

[Anonymous No.16779123]

>>16779088
As I already said
>There is more to the jewish issue than israel. They're the ultimate globalists and play multiple sides.
There are many factions, the idea that jews are a monolithic entity is absurd. Even if they criticize Israel, they won't criticize jews as such. Also doesn't disprove the fact that jews are heavily overrepresented and very influential in media, banking, academia, justice system, etc. They have a lot of indirect power.

[Anonymous No.16779132]

>>16779099
>Jews know antisemitism better than anyone, which shouldn't be a surprise (to most).
Shouldn't there be a set standard, instead of an arbitrary one? Otherwise it's "just because I feel it is".
>And no, Jews don't use it to silence opposition
You clearly don't know anything about the subject. This is just laughable. This >>16779047 entire book is about the boy who cried wolf phenomenon, it's filled with direct quotes and primary sources.

[Anonymous No.16779206]

>>16779123
Why should they be criticised ?
If we are talking about jews as a religion, it is fair to tell them that circumcision is a retarded practice. I will give you that.
As far as as jews as an ethnic group, there is as much a reason to criticise them as fucking igbo Nigerians or whatever. Being overrepresented and nepotistic doesn't mean shit. Most motherfuckers out there are nepotistic as fuck.

[Anonymous No.16779221]

>>16779206
>Why should they be criticised ?
Because they're human? Why not?
>As far as as jews as an ethnic group, there is as much a reason to criticise them as fucking igbo Nigerians or whatever. Being overrepresented and nepotistic doesn't mean shit. Most motherfuckers out there are nepotistic as fuck.
And here you're wrong. Most motherfuckers are indeed nepotistic as fuck, but most motherfuckers aren't overrepresented in positions of power and influence and thereby able to exert soft power like jews are. And when you point it out, they scream anti-semite.

[Anonymous No.16779256]

>>16779206
So do you think any ethnic group is wrong to criticize?

[Anonymous No.16779288]

>>16779206
The existence of some other, genuine rationale in no way means that it isn't antisemitic anymore.

[Anonymous No.16779313]

>>16779020
Being antizionist is arguably worse than “merely” being antisemitic (in most situations) nowadays.

In a modern context antisemitic could mean you hold some off color views about Jews; sometimes without even realizing it. Being antizionist means you are willfully against the physical and cultural safety of Jews, so by default being an antizionist of any kind takes much more evil intent just to start.

[Anonymous No.16779340]

>>16779313
>Being antizionist is arguably worse than “merely” being antisemitic (in most situations) nowadays.
You cannot be serious. Zionism is jewish supremacy.
>In a modern context antisemitic could mean you hold some off color views about Jews; sometimes without even realizing it.
No, it means you notice patterns and have legitimate criticisms.
>Being antizionist means you are willfully against the physical and cultural safety of Jews, so by default being an antizionist of any kind takes much more evil intent just to start.
Bullshit but following your logic, being zionist would make you anti-palestinian. How are you any better?

[Anonymous No.16779350]

>>16779340
Point is, it’s semantics. Don’t like antisemitism? Call it something else. The name of the term for Jew-hate really isn’t the point.

[Anonymous No.16779364]

>>16779350
But it's not jew-hate. I don't hate jews, but anytime I criticize the behaviour of some jews I get called anti-semite. It's not semantics, it's pilpul.

[Anonymous No.16779420]

>>16779350
>>16779313
>>16779221
>>16779099
>>16779057
>If you disagree with me you are antisemitic

[Anonymous No.16779422]

>>16779047
>anything that criticizes jews anti-semitic
this is true though under the understanding that anti-semitic is not against semitics but judaism.

[Anonymous No.16779432]

>>16779221
>Because they're human? Why not?
That is the most retarded shit I ever heard. Just because they are human doesn't mean they are exempted from criticism. Jeffrey Dahmer was a human too retard.

[Anonymous No.16779453]

>>16779432
I think you misread my post. He asked me why jews should be criticized, I replied with "because they're human" to show that nobody is exempt from criticism, not even jews.

[Anonymous No.16779460]

>>16779453
I see, apologies.

[Anonymous No.16779471]

>>16779460
No worries.

[Anonymous No.16779508]

>>16778819
Yeah, narrative is a powerful thing one way or another

Which is why I just hit that early life when I read about someone doing something fucked up in the current era.
Does me wonders in discovering truth for myself

[Anonymous No.16779515]

>>16779017
>authority in literature
Jeepers

[Anonymous No.16779531]

>>16779088
Dude they represent like 80%~ of the richest 100 Americans and they're like 2.4% of the population

[Anonymous No.16779543]

>>16776584
I read it and was astounded how accurate it is. For all the people who say it's a forgery, they never actually confront anything the work says. And that's because they can't refute its points.

[Anonymous No.16779547]

>>16779206
The lines get blurred as ethnic and religious group
It's another way to avoid criticism

[Anonymous No.16779567]

>>16779350
You completely dodged the point

Also criticizing the Jewish community doesn't mean hate, and nor does it align anyone with a specific group just to criticize

There are "many Jewish groups" just like there are "many types of white people" and yet the latter can get scrutinized as an ideology and an ethnic group as much as people please

No one is beyond criticism.

[Anonymous No.16779652]

>>16779364
>I criticize the behaviour of some jews I get called anti-semite
because you are being antisemtic by criticizing jews, injuring Jews in any way is inherently antisemetic

[Anonymous No.16779680]

>>16779340
Antipalestinian would mean there is such a thing as a Palestinian homeland. Sorry, but there is not. Migration documents have shown that.

[Anonymous No.16779681]

>>16778819
>>16778932
>>16778871
>>16779003
>>16779017
>>16779057
>>16779088
>>16779099
>>16779206
>>16779313
>>16779350
>>16779652

The gaslighting here is ASTOUNDING, and you're not even trying, schlomo.

[Anonymous No.16779702]

>>16779057
Begone shlomo

[Anonymous No.16779730]

>>16779340
Zionism has always been a response to nationalistic sentiment in countries with a Jewish population. The ideology didn't exist until nations decided some minorities weren't welcome anymore in the countries they lived in for centures.

What patterns? Jews are people like anyone else and everyone who says otherwise is indulging in 19th century minority hatred.

[Anonymous No.16779744]

>Zionism has always been a response to nationalistic sentiment in countries with a Jewish population. The ideology didn't exist until nations decided some minorities weren't welcome anymore in the countries they lived in for centures.

>What patterns? Jews are people like anyone else and everyone who says otherwise is indulging in 19th century minority hatred.

[Anonymous No.16779769]

>>16779508
That’s the thing there definitely is a lot of evidence out there for Jewish people demonstrating ethnic preference and the like, which is why fake stuff like this book can seem real

[Anonymous No.16779774]

>>16779730
>Zionism has always been a response to nationalistic sentiment in countries with a Jewish population. The ideology didn't exist until nations decided some minorities weren't welcome anymore in the countries they lived in for centures.
That's not entirely truthful, jews have been ousted many times throughout the millenia. I wonder why...
>What patterns? Jews are people like anyone else and everyone who says otherwise is indulging in 19th century minority hatred.
Of course they're humans. But they are overrepresented in positions of power and influence in other countries, and observably seem to disproportionally enact policies that benefit jews to the detriment of the indigenous peoples. The reasons behind that is a discussion worth having, right? And if they turn out to be unreasonable nepotistic, they should be called out for that, right?

[Anonymous No.16779776]

>>16779730
>Jews are people like anyone else
you should try telling them that then, however that would be deeply antisemtic

[Anonymous No.16779780]

>>16776584
Is /lit/ getting raided/spammed? This is the third Judaism-conspiracy thread I've seen today

[Anonymous No.16779787]

>>16779680
There is no jewish homeland either then, at least until they took a piece of land from palestinians/arabs/whatever you want to call them based on made up claims.

[Anonymous No.16779792]

>>16779543
Is it a accurate recording of a meeting held by an organisation know as the Learned Elders of Zion ?

[Anonymous No.16779803]

>Is it a accurate recording of a meeting held by an organisation know as the Learned Elders of Zion ?

[Anonymous No.16779805]

>>16779780
Maybe. However, I don't think is /pol/. They are too busy with Trump, US elections and that kind of shit. The ones that do most of the raids here are from bunkerchan(leftypol) and this doesn't seem an appropriate thread for that.

[Anonymous No.16779816]

>>16779787
Jews have been continuously living there.
People who are against Jews living in Judea usually have no concept of the history of the region or Jews as a people. They are told it’s bad because Jews are European colonizers, so they believe it’s bad, no questions asked.

I’m consistent on my belief that native peoples have the right to live in there ancestral homeland, to take back land that is rightfully yours is a righteous act. I may not be a nice person but I am consistent when sticking to my principles.

[Anonymous No.16779825]

>>16779803
Nah, he has a point, the frame of the book is probably made up or otherwise at least fictionized. But the contents that are discussed are indeed pretty accurate.

[Anonymous No.16779839]

>>16779787
The muslims living in Israel never had a problem with immigrants even in the modern era as long as the immigrants were also muslim. They only have a problem with jews.

Now to say the land will lose its 'character' ifjewsmove in is patently ridiculous. All the agreements of the 20th century were simply concerning lands where jews would be allowed to immigrate, as all lands were open to muslim immigration. The various wars that happened were not over displacing muslims, it was over allowing jews, and muslims got displaced in those wars.

Really if israel wasnt miles ahead of the muslims technologically much more drastic measures would be neccesary.

Now jews are smart enough to beat their bigoted enemies and they are left to complaining and launching marginal terrorist attacks and the Jews so susceptible to the venom of guilt are paralyzed. Really a catharsis for guilt needs to be found so people can think clearly and act sensibly politically as at this point the emotional compulsion to acquiesce to any complaint, even if from violent cynics, ensures an untenable political situation for decades to come.

[Anonymous No.16779844]

>>16779816
>Jews have been continuously living there.
Then why were they all over Europe crying about being ousted from their homeland?
>People who are against Jews living in Judea usually have no concept of the history of the region or Jews as a people.
But I do.
>They are told it’s bad because Jews are European colonizers, so they believe it’s bad, no questions asked.
I don't, it's bad because they're hypocrites.
>I’m consistent on my belief that native peoples have the right to live in there ancestral homeland, to take back land that is rightfully yours is a righteous act. I may not be a nice person but I am consistent when sticking to my principles.
Then why do so many jews/israelis promote open borders for and migration into Europe?

[Anonymous No.16779854]

>>16779839
Pilpul

[Anonymous No.16779870]

>>16779805
I usually post on /his/ and only read on /lit/. I didn't make the thread but commented on this one after the protocols of zion thread was deleted on /his/
>>16779816
>Jews are European colonizers
yes this isn't really fair because there were many noneuropean Jews colonizing palestinian and are to this day.

[Anonymous No.16779884]

>>16779844
Saying Jews doing Jewish things is a problem in any context is wrong. Jews living in Eretz Yisrael is perhaps one of the most Jewish things a Jew could do.

>But I do
It doesn't matter. What you're saying is very wrong, and very dangerous. Never say Jews following Judaism, any part of Judaism, is a problem. Ever.

>Then why do so many jews/israelis promote open borders for and migration into Europe?
Spend some time with Jews and you'd know none of them have the same opinion. The Israeli mindset is much different from that of the hundreds of groups of diaspora (who each have their own views).

[Anonymous No.16779898]

>>16779730
>Zionism has always been a response to nationalistic sentiment in countries with a Jewish population. The ideology didn't exist until nations decided some minorities weren't welcome anymore in the countries they lived in for centures.
No
Groups who respect and add to the nationalist identity first and foremost are not treated this way
Nepotistic groups who favor efforts outside the national identity, values, and efforts are what get addressed

Media wanted to unfurl the most propagandized era of all time
That means people are squeezed into learning how to sift through fake bullshit such as this. It's only going to get more obvious.

[Anonymous No.16779917]

>>16779769
There's a difference between ethnic preference and pure, unadulterated exploitation of out-groups.

[Anonymous No.16779921]

>>16779884
Jews following Judaism, any part of Judaism, is a problem.
>none of them have the same opinion.
they are all jews they certainly agree on that

[Anonymous No.16779929]

>>16779884
>Saying Jews doing Jewish things is a problem in any context is wrong.
You're not the arbiter of morality. If those jews doing jewish things negatively impact my country and people, they're wrong and should be called out.
>Jews living in Eretz Yisrael is perhaps one of the most Jewish things a Jew could do.
No, the most jewish thing is to subvert.
>Spend some time with Jews and you'd know none of them have the same opinion. The Israeli mindset is much different from that of the hundreds of groups of diaspora (who each have their own views).
I have and still do. I know this. When we speak of jews in such conspiratorial fashion, we don't mean your average jew, but those in positions of power who abuse that power. Which happens a lot.

[Anonymous No.16779951]

>>16779884
>Never say Jews following Judaism, any part of Judaism, is a problem. Ever.
I missed this but once again, you're not the arbiter of morality. If aspects ofJudaism negatively impact my country or people, it is a problem and should be called out.

[Anonymous No.16779981]

>>16779921
>they are all jews they certainly agree on that
If only you knew who the Karaites were, the Samaritans, etc...

>>16779898
The Dreyfus affair is a page of history you need to read. Assimilated, secular Jews were far from safe in Europe, and you probably know about that whole thing with the Austrian fellow...

>>16779870
Again, Jews have been living there uninterruptedly since biblical Israel. You can check the census of Jerusalem (and accounts of medieval Muslims or Christians when they held the region) if you don't believe me.
Most Israelis are swarthy Middle Eastern men whose grandmother speaks Arabic. Plenty of them have ties to the region and whether you like that or not is irrelevant to their right to live there.

[Anonymous No.16780004]

>>16779981
>The Dreyfus affair is a page of history you need to read. Assimilated, secular Jews were far from safe in Europe, and you probably know about that whole thing with the Austrian fellow...
The Jews in Germany at the time didn't just "do nothing"
They pissed off the local, AKA, the local identity as I had said. They didn't respect the host nation.
Any group who respects and adds to the host nation does not get booted out of over 100 times.

[Anonymous No.16780011]

>>16779929
How does Jews practicing religion negatively impact your country? A rich billionaire doing something you don't like isn't necessarily doing Jewish things.
Again, the trope is that they are somehow a net loss to your nation whereas the most poor countries are usually judenrein. Historically, Jews brought expertise and trade to the regions they live in.

>>16779951
And neither are you. I'll let the governments choose whether Jews are allowed religious freedoms or not, and that's already naive given the track record of unpunished progroms in western countries.

[Anonymous No.16780012]

>>16779803
Now it’s you who are refusing to confront what is written in it

[Anonymous No.16780019]

>>16780011
religious freedoms =/= exploiting locals
these are just word games

[Anonymous No.16780030]

>>16779981
>If only you knew who the Karaites were, the Samaritans, etc...
you misunderstand, I am not saying they all agree that eachother are all jews, I am saying that they personally all believe themselves to be jews, they agree on that perception.

>Jews have been living there uninterruptedly since biblical Israel.
why do you keep repeating this as if it means anything, you don't hear white people justifying American colonization with christopher columbus or something.

[Anonymous No.16780036]

>>16780011
>Again, the trope is that they are somehow a net loss to your nation whereas the most poor countries are usually judenrein. Historically, Jews brought expertise and trade to the regions they live in.
Typical, a jew only thinking in terms of money and material wealth. There's more important things.
>How does Jews practicing religion negatively impact your country?
RIght now? It doesn't. But if it did, I would be justified in calling it out. That was my point. Jews and Judaism are not above criticism. They may think they're god's chosen people, the rest of the world disagrees.
>And neither are you. I'll let the governments choose whether Jews are allowed religious freedoms or not,
The difference is I never claimed to be, you did. And those governments are filled with jews and bought by israel, so no worries there buddy.
>and that's already naive given the track record of unpunished progroms in western countries.
Gee, if it happens so often, maybe there's a reason for it?

[Anonymous No.16780073]

>>16780011
>most poor countries are usually judenrein.
correct because you migrate to rich countries and abandon poor countries.

[Anonymous No.16780080]

Its fake, as if someone was hiding behind the curtain writing it all down. Drop the purpose made king bullshit.
But it is an accurate depiction of how groups (and there are quite a lot of them) wish to control the population for economic gain.

[Anonymous No.16780083]

>>16780030
>>16780019
The Arabs living there aren't locals. Jews are the natives, the ”Palestinians” did not exist and is an arbitrary name with no real meaning. They are invaders that exiled a native people and occupied historically Jewish land, would you have a problem with native Americans reviving help getting back there historical land and living there?

[Anonymous No.16780096]

>>16778819
At the time when this was released there was no "left v right" dichotomy as there is today. The political climate was entirely different.
The left in early 20th century WAS OPPOSED to everything described in the protocols, and the right would have supported it.
Fucking historically blind clown.

[Anonymous No.16780105]

>>16780083
>The Arabs living there aren't locals.
I didn't specify arabs, there's plenty of history documenting the jewish relationship with the locals of various nations

[Anonymous No.16780108]

>>16780083
Israeli fake propaganda

[Anonymous No.16780110]

>>16779730
Zionism dates back to the bronze ages you fucking clown.

[Anonymous No.16780119]

>>16780105
We are talking about Israel.

>>16780108
Stick your head in the sand, then.

[Anonymous No.16780122]

>>16780119
At least I'm not sticking the heads of innocent Palestinian kids in the sand like the Israelis.

[Anonymous No.16780127]

>>16780083
>Jews are the natives
even in your own ethnic supremacist propaganda book it says you migrated there and genocided the locals down to the women and children. And historically, that land hasn't been Israel for thousands of years

[Anonymous No.16780130]

>>16780122
Can you show me where that happens? Most Israelis play matkot on the sandy beach, a ball game.

>>16780110
Modern Zionism did not.

[Anonymous No.16780134]

>>16780127
The Edomites are free to claim the land back by that logic. What a shame they don't exist.

[Anonymous No.16780139]

>>16780130
It was a joke, my autistic friend. But not very far outside of the realm of possibility, sadly, since we've seen how israelis treat the Palestinians whose land they keep stealing.

[Anonymous No.16780156]

>>16780139
They are citizens who enjoy better rights under Israeli law than under Jordanian, Egyptian or Syrian law.
Don't believe me? Merely look up "Palestinian refugee camp".

[Anonymous No.16780164]

>>16780130
Zionists wanted to enslave goyim long before jews were getting exiled in Europe. Like almost a millennia earlier.

[Anonymous No.16780175]

>>16780164
Why didn't they?

[Anonymous No.16780176]

>>16780156
>These other people are even worse so we deserve no criticism
That's not how it works buddy. Israel is still treating them like the Germans did the jews, but the hypocrisy seems lost on you. Especially the jews should know better what happens when you do that to a people, given their history.

[Anonymous No.16780183]

>>16780176
Where are the camps?

[Anonymous No.16780184]

>>16780175
Because they were too few, that's why they invented christianity to do it for them

[Anonymous No.16780195]

>>16780183
They're called Gaza Strip and West Bank, don't you know them? They're pretty famous.

[Anonymous No.16780201]

>>16780184
Christians have been persecuting Jews ever since they were conscious of being two distinct groups.

Whoever thought that was a good idea must have been terribly wrong then.

[Anonymous No.16780210]

>>16780195
The ones where their population keeps growing?

[Anonymous No.16780213]

>>16780134
the point is you aren't native to the land, the people you identify with just killed the native inhabitants even the women and children. But most of the story is fake anyway

[Anonymous No.16780228]

>>16780213
Historically, no one else has had claim to that land except Jews and the ones who said they did (Xtians and Muslims) used religious reasoning.

[Anonymous No.16780236]

>>16780201
Not every plan works out as intended, but after these two millennia it seems their plan turned out well anyway. Israel is doing well while christian Europe... not so good.

[Anonymous No.16780243]

>>16780210
What a resilient bunch they are huh? Even despite the horrors the israelis inflinct upon them. Their camps are getting smaller and smaller everyday though.

[Anonymous No.16780244]

>>16780210
>>16780083
>>16780011
>>16779981
To the people still arguing with this guy, google "pilpul" and "hasbara playbook".
I'm sorry to tell you but you dun goof'd.

[Anonymous No.16780245]

>>16780175
>>16780183
>>16780210
this is what they do when you are getting to them
>ethnic supremacist propaganda book
did this bother you I notice you didn't deny it?

[Anonymous No.16780268]

>>16780245
Anyone can become a Jew if he or she desires to, but very little people do because it is a frightening and difficult thing to live in a world where those who think like the people itt are your colleagues, friends and neighbours.

[Anonymous No.16780280]

>>16780244
>>16780245
what to do when they derail conversations like this?

[Anonymous No.16780290]

>>16780268
jesus christ the victim narrative lmao, never any level of introspection

[Anonymous No.16780314]

>>16780096
You missunderstand it’s not the content of the book that is right wing as opposed to left wing it’s that it’s a fabricated work produced by people who are broadly within the right wing spectrum and to his day finds support within the radical right wing.

[Anonymous No.16780315]

>>16780268
If you are a Jew in the western world you can live in exclusive gated communities and send your children to exclusive jewish schools protected by security guards armed with automatic weapons.

[Anonymous No.16780319]

>>16780244
>>16780183
https://www.albawaba.com/news/israel-hasbara-handbook-how-to-influence-media--593101
Interesting

[Anonymous No.16780324]

It’s the screwtape letters for anti semites

[Anonymous No.16780386]

>>16780319
>Wikipedia defines Hasbara as “Public diplomacy in Israel” and refers to it as “public relations efforts to disseminate abroad positive information about Israel.” That’s true enough but in reality Hasbara is a manipulative propaganda machine. Students are paid to spread pro-Israel messages online and have been slaving away in the Hasbara War Room to sell the Gaza war in social media. According to the Hasbara Handbook – their main target audience is USA.
Very interesting indeed

[Anonymous No.16780418]

Serious questions, not trying to nazi troll here-

Has anyone read this? What basis does this have in today’s modern context? What exactly about this inspired Hitler to commit the atrocities that he did? If you’ve read it, did you find it a valid analysis or conspiracy nonsense?

Anyone have any thoughts? I’m curious. So many consider this baseless propaganda, yet many consider it factual warning.

[Anonymous No.16780427]

>>16780244
>Israel activists need to be able to put their knowledge to use, and this involves mastery of skills. To acquire skills it is necessary to understand exactly what is involved in mastery, and then to practice again and again. The best ways to pick up a skill are through training, observing experts, and through having somebody show you how to do it. Better yet, combine all three.

>Once a skill has been learnt, it needs to be developed. This is done through practice. Obviously getting out ‘in the field’ and campaigning for Israel is great practice, but there are ways to practice in ‘lower risk’ situations.
hard to know what is actually propaganda spreading and what is just practice

[Anonymous No.16780439]

>>16780427
Practicing spreading propaganda is still spreading propaganda. Are you doing it right now?

[Anonymous No.16780451]

hey i want to own a physical copy of this. who has published a good edition and where can i get it.

[Anonymous No.16780462]

>>16780244
>Skills are best practiced by using role play. Role play is best done by creating a simulated environment - a learning laboratory - to allow activists to try speaking in public, answering difficult questions, or attempting to undermine hostile speakers. A learning laboratory must be a safe environment within which to practice new skills - making mistakes and trying out new ways of doing things in a learning laboratory ought to be encouraged, as mistakes help real long-term learning.
>>16780439
I meant it's hard to know the end goal, is it to subvert people here thinking bad things about Israel or to practice it. I guess it can be both

[Anonymous No.16780488]

>>16780462
>I guess it can be both
This is the correct answer

[Anonymous No.16780548]

>>16780451
I don't know but I have a copy by Martino Fine which I wouldn't recommend, it's a lazy reprint of a scan. It seems like most others have been purged as well.

[Anonymous No.16780564]

>>16780488
the thing is I am not sure it has the intended effect on a forum like this, similar to the US committee on the judiciaries take on the protocols, making bad arguments or arguments in bad faith may be taken by readers as opposing evidence to the position held.

[Anonymous No.16780576]

If you want to form your own opinion, read The Jews and Modern Capitalism

The Culture of Critique

The Politics of Nonassimilation

[Anonymous No.16780657]

>>16780564
The effect is to derail the discussion so that the topic is not discussed, just like what happened in this thread

[Anonymous No.16780735]

>>16780657
So let's discuss OP's topic.
>>16780576
Good recommendations.

[Anonymous No.16780846]

The entire book reads like a "lol mwahhaahahhahahahaha, we control everything and we want to control your civilization and corrupt your kids, goyim!!" evil suprevillain cartoon LARP. If the CIA had it in their records vault, that should be telling you enough.

[Anonymous No.16780885]

>>16776584
>What exactly about this inspired Hitler to commit the atrocities that he did?

How do you it was the Protocols that inspired that?
On a related note, what I find curious was that the Jewish population in Germany at the time was really small (at most 5%, but iirc actually 2% like in the US) and the Nazis galvanized energies against them regardless. Also, the Nazi party disseminated their own propaganda regarding the prominence of Jews in many fields. They didn't necessarily resort to just bizarre shit analogous to Q garbage of today. I have a small pamphlet with data they used from the time.

[Anonymous No.16780897]

>>16776789
Interesting.

[Anonymous No.16780910]

>>16779038
>Get your hateful crap out od here

[Anonymous No.16780913]

>>16776584
OP if you are genuinely not anti-semitic do not post this text, it is very potent anti semitic propaganda, and when idiots like those on this site gets it, they can easily do rash things.

[Anonymous No.16780936]

I take the same view as Evola on it. Doesn’t matter how true the authorship may or may not be, cause you can see it’s predictions play out and it serves a better explanation than any coupled with the Kalergi plan

[Anonymous No.16781491]

Let's assume it's fake
How does it differ from theodor herzl ?
He basicly wrote almost the same shit

This always reminds me of the movie the house of rothschild
Made by jews showing how they plan to dominate nations and economy etc.
But when someone says jews controll it they call you a shizo

[Anonymous No.16781809]

Jews rock!

[Anonymous No.16781818]

[Anonymous No.16781828]

https://youtu.be/niiF8hCSrYQ

[Anonymous No.16781830]

>>16780913
>idiots like those on this site
Get off the site, idiot

[Anonymous No.16781832]

[Anonymous No.16781837]

[Anonymous No.16781839]

>>16778819
pretty good bait
have one more (you)

[Anonymous No.16781846]

[Anonymous No.16781855]

The amount of kike tears ITT is amazing, keep it up joomers!

[Anonymous No.16781880]

>>16781855
>kike tears
he posted in a thread about how jews control the world

[Anonymous No.16781904]

>>16776789
Can you greentext what happened? I mean the synchronisms.

[Anonymous No.16782208]

The primary reason Hitler hated Jews wasn't because of that book or some other crazy conspiracy theory. He was motivated by his own observations. Hitler was extremely nationalistic and loved his country and he fought in WW1 because he truly believed in the cause. During that period he watched a lot of his friends die so when went on leave returned to the civilian world and saw massive labor union revolts and other movements meant to disrupt the supply chain being perpetrated and led by communist Jews, it enraged him. This was when Germany was actually in a position to win the war and he saw it as the reason Germany lost, making all of his close friends sacrifices mean nothing. The Jews like to pretend that this hatred came out of nowhere but it was completely rational.

[Anonymous No.16782409]

>>16780245
>>16780243
Have you seen the pictures and videos of the markets, beach villas, restaurants in Gaza? Most there are not “suffering.” Imagine what it could be without Hamas?

[Anonymous No.16782418]

>>16781855
>he doesnt want to seed a qt jew army girl

[Anonymous No.16782448]

>>16781832
This is so false its laughable. Yes Trotskij and others were prominent jews in SU but the SU was seriously anti-semitic. Especially under Stalin. Are you also aware that left wing movements around the world are the biggest opponents of Israel?

>>16781837
Do some actual research into bank ownership, its highly diverse and most of them are owned by large joint stock conglomorates, no one owns the banks they are bigger than countries.

>>16781846
Are Neo-Nazis allies with the black panthers now?

[Anonymous No.16782507]

>>16782409
Hey Hasbara, how are you? What about the thousands of innocent Palestinian civilians that are being murdered by Israel?

[Anonymous No.16782514]

>>16782448
Stop the pilpul, rabbi, we know your playbook

[Anonymous No.16782520]

>>16776584
>So many consider this baseless propaganda, yet many consider it factual warning
Fuck off and die already

[Anonymous No.16782685]

>>16782507
They are being killed by Hamas. That's how it works, right? The actual killers, just like with Jesus apparently, are the blameless and others are the real evildoers.
And the IDF killing innocents is highly debatable since they are only acting in self-defence, a very passive army considering the constant threat of death from neighbouring nations.

[Anonymous No.16782687]

>>16782448
>This is so false its laughable.
The source is right there, rabbi

>Yes Trotskij and others were prominent jews in SU but the SU was seriously anti-semitic. Especially under Stalin.
It wasn't anti-semitic UNTIL Stalin. After he came into power Jewish bolshevism in its original founding form naturally moved to America, where they started the subversion process by infiltrating various universities and other governmental institutions.

>Are you also aware that left wing movements around the world are the biggest opponents of Israel?
What left-wing movements? Because the only left-wing movement that actually matters and is relevant is that of the predominating and ruling neo-Marxist-and-ultra-liberal disguised democratic parties all over Western Europe and the US. In the Western world nowadays to even dare voice your doubt about the real estimated number of the victims of the Holocaust may cost your job and your life may be ruined (while questioning other grand-scale genocides such as Holodomor won't do to you shit). There is a reason why there is such a thing as the ADL in the US - Jews in the West are the most overly protected ethnicities than any other groups based on race and religion, and everyone sees it despite being (reasonably) too afraid to publicly raise any such questions.

[Anonymous No.16782696]

>>16782685
Ah yes the jews are the eternal victims. You're not even trying, schlomo. I hope you're baiting with this parody and I'm just falling for it.
>self-defence
But if the Palestinians do it it's not self-defense right? You're so transparent lmao.

[Anonymous No.16782726]

>>16782696
In which cases was what the "Palestinians" had done self-defense?

[Anonymous No.16782746]

>>16782726
Your diversion tactics aren't working, rabbi. Any act of the Palestinians against the jews is self-defense since the jews invaded Palestine. You keep restricting their freedoms, and when they act out, they get bombed and shot by your army. Nice fellows you are. I'm starting to understand why you were kicked out of so many countries now.

[Anonymous No.16782748]

>>16782726
These people hate Jews no matter how much you try to explain their innocence. A very simple fact is that "the jews are the eternal victims" usually comes from those who wish for a society where Jews are put in the spotlight in a bad way, or have less rights, get boycotted.. and they are in fact succeeding because they are yelling so loud (like victims).

[Anonymous No.16782752]

>>16782746
when a palestinian walks into a synagogue and kills children and elderly with a machete, is that self-defence?

[Anonymous No.16782759]

>>16776584
It's just stuff made up by a conspiracy theorist. You can get the exact same stuff, (with just as much evidence and authority) by browsing /pol/

[Anonymous No.16782767]

>>16782208
This

[Anonymous No.16782768]

>>16782752
When a jew shoots an unarmed palestinian child for no reason, is that self-defense? Two can play at this game, rabbi.

[Anonymous No.16782771]

>>16782759
Post nose

[Anonymous No.16782772]

>>16782768
Both are wrong. Who's naming streets after murderers though?

[Anonymous No.16782774]

>>16782768
Those people get punished whereas Arab terrorists get rewarded by the Palestinian government.

[Anonymous No.16782777]

>>16782772
Who is occupying land that doesn't belong to them? Right, the jews.

[Anonymous No.16782787]

>>16782774
>Those people get punished
These jewish terrorists you mean? They get a slap on the wrist and all is forgiven
>Arab terrorists get rewarded by the Palestinian government.
Based, good on them for protecting their homeland.

[Anonymous No.16782790]

>>16782777
Who says it doesn't? Jews bought land from the Turkish landowners in that area long before even setting foot there, it was theirs, legally - all other instances of "occupation" is simply due to winning it after fighting defensive wars against its neighbours, something like that is OK in international law.
They even gave land back, and had withdrawn from the gaza strip, a decision that was thanked with rockets and murder.

[Anonymous No.16782809]

>>16782790
>something like that is OK in international law.
which jews invented? You can do better than this, rabbi.
>They even gave land back, and had withdrawn from the gaza strip, a decision that was thanked with rockets and murder.
Stop being so disingenuous. You shouldn't have taken any of the land they had taken, you sound like mafia now. But you're even worse than mafia.

[Anonymous No.16782830]

>>16782809
International law? Invented by Jews?

>Stop being so disingenuous. You shouldn't have taken any of the land they had taken, you sound like mafia now. But you're even worse than mafia.
Thanks for proving your hypocrisy dickwad. They gave back the Sinai and Golan.

[Anonymous No.16782836]

>>16782830
>International law? Invented by Jews?
Yes, you might want to read into it.
>Thanks for proving your hypocrisy dickwad. They gave back the Sinai and Golan.
Lmao now I'm the hypocrite? Jews are the eternal hypocrites by any standard. If they hadn't taken it, they wouldn't have had to give it back. Aren't you annexing more and more, including Golan, as we speak though?

[Anonymous No.16782849]

>>16782836
Stop.
You either give me a source on "international law is invented by Jews" or admit that you are talking nonsense.

Is it hypocritical to want a home after being slaughtered in Europe and the Middle East? They got one legally, tried to share with Arabs, got attacked by them and then said "screw it". And still the Arabs can go to university, enjoy full citizenship rights and work - what happens to Jews in the West Bank and Gaza?

[Anonymous No.16782851]

>>16776789
The number is bigger than most people realize.

[Anonymous No.16782859]

>>16782849
How did Jews end up in the West Bank and Gaza?

[Anonymous No.16782862]

>>16782859
You seem to know the answer to that, so go ahead and explain.

[Anonymous No.16782865]

>>16782862
No I want you to explain yourself.

[Anonymous No.16782869]

>>16782849
>do you have a source?
>going to need a source on that
>can you back that up?
But only when it's about facts you don't like, right? Otherwise you just get to make your claims. Just read up on the history of international law and look at the ethnic background of the people involved, that should tell you enough.
>Is it hypocritical to want a home after being slaughtered in Europe and the Middle East?
Yes, because those things happened for good reasons. If you had just behaved like normal people, that wouldn't have happened.
>They got one legally, tried to share with Arabs, got attacked by them and then said "screw it".
The Palestinians had no say in this you disingenuous rabbi.
>And still the Arabs can go to university, enjoy full citizenship rights and work - what happens to Jews in the West Bank and Gaza?
You're lying, they have to live under the jewish yoke. I completely understand the actions of the Palestinians in this regard, why would they be civil to bloodthirsty conquerors playing the victim?

[Anonymous No.16782890]

>>16782869
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_international_law
CTRL + F "Jew"
Nothing.

>>16782865
Because of war, Jews ended up in these places because they were rightfully conquered in war. Israel had not had the obligation to return these lands but placed them under military protection anyways. They unilaterally withdrew from Gaza and this was a mistake, since now Hamas terrorises its "citizens" and Israel too.

>The Palestinians had no say in this you disingenuous rabbi.
Neither did the ordinary Jews living there. Are you talking about politicians and rulers? Then one will have to look up who rejected the UN proposal for the actual state - which had not only been rejected by the Arabs, but also seen as a cause of war. Arabs invaded and lost, all territories lost because of that is their own fault, because again, Jews were perfectly fine with living together.

>You're lying, they have to live under the jewish yoke. I completely understand the actions of the Palestinians in this regard, why would they be civil to bloodthirsty conquerors playing the victim?

Here's a few articles that disprove the "yoke"

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37895021
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/1909215/arab-doctor-leads-israeli-hospitals-anti-virus-fight

[Anonymous No.16782897]

>>16782890
>Oy vey we were there first the Pals invaded us!

It's amazing the shit you kikes try to sell.

[Anonymous No.16782907]

>>16782890
Pilpul and more disingenuous arguing. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.16782930]

>>16782897
The Arabs living there had no problem with immigration from Egypt, Jordan as long as the people were Muslims. Only after Jews settled in (among the native, Jewish population) did that become a problem.
I would really suggest you read more about the conflict if you are the type of person who cares about such stuff, it's complicated.

[Anonymous No.16782939]

>>16781832
>Source of the quote is David Duke
>Source number 4 was literally a member of the SS

[Anonymous No.16782943]

>>16782897
>>16782869
The term west bank had been created during the Jordanian occupation in 1948 up until 1967 , the settlements are on areas that Jews had been driven out in 1948 or 1944.

Jews had been driven out from Judea in Samaria in the last in 1948 , and in the Golan , Galil and Mount Lebanon between 1860s to 1944.

It is not about Jews claiming land where there had been no Jews for 2000 years, We are talking about liberated lands that jews can live today not somewhere else. the settlements are not in Jordan or Saudi Arebia , the settlements are in Israel.

[Anonymous No.16782977]

>>16782939
I mean, are you even surprised they would put that in? Antisemites have no shame

[Anonymous No.16782995]

>>16780083
let's help the Scots and Irish so they can reclaim their native Celtic land of continental Europe, down with the Romans!

[Anonymous No.16782998]

>>16782995
They already have their lands - SCOTland and IREland.

[Anonymous No.16783012]

>>16782939
So even more reliable than I imagined.

[Anonymous No.16783011]

>>16782995
Nonsense.

[Anonymous No.16783025]

>>16782943
>>16782998
This is absurd, looks >>16780244 is right after all

[Anonymous No.16783035]

>>16782930
>>16782943
>A LAND WITHOUT A PEOPLE AND A PEOPLE WITHOUT A LAND
>No no Moishe, the Goyim know. Norman Finklestein clued them in.
>G-d damnit! Well what if we say we were always there and.. um. The Arabs invaded Israel! Yeah!
>Sure why not. We're gonna exterminate 'em all by 2100 anyway. "Facts on the ground" heh heh.

[Anonymous No.16783039]

The Jews are an historical menace.
However, considering that the most stringent strain of mass counter-Semitism in recent years led to the election of Zion Don, I have given up.
We probably are cattle.

[Anonymous No.16783080]

>>16783039
He had to kick open a door and say things that were verboten just to get elected.
When he betrayed Whites he lost a percentage of their vote equal to white nationalists.

All this tells us is presidential elections are not a path to victory. Which everyone should have already known.

>>16782977
>Oy vey we told them six million times who they're supposed to hate why isn't it working

[Anonymous No.16783099]

>>16783080
This is not pol.

[Anonymous No.16783107]

>joos are a global force with United goals, so if they are doing 2 separate things one is a ploy.
>Joos are not a monolithm, so they conflict with each other.
Please choose 1

[Anonymous No.16783121]

>>16783099
But it IS shabbat. You should be resting.

>>16783107
Both are ploys.

[Anonymous No.16783124]

>>16783121
So many ploys. Where do you think they keep them all organized?

[Anonymous No.16783131]

>>16783124
Under their kippahs.

[Anonymous No.16783139]

>>16776584
>Not trying to nazi troll here
Thread proceeds to be /pol/ bait.
Tiresome
As for the actual book, I think people who actually studied this to the extent of reading that are a. Rare and b. Won't waste their time on bait.

[Anonymous No.16783143]

>>16778819
>Interestingly enough it is an interesting example of how the right is far more prone to creating fabricated evidence than the left is - I would be interested to see a study on how conspiracy theory manifests differently in these groups
Look mom, I've done it! I scored one for the good guys left team (tm) against the evil right wing racists team!!! now gimme kissy pls

[Anonymous No.16783147]

>>16783131
Must be kurdim with such a big skullcap.

[Anonymous No.16783152]

>>16776584
It's an interesting work with a uncannily accurate representation of what has been happening in the world. Whether the work is a 'forgery' or whether it is even 'da joos' who are solely responsible for what is happening is almost irrelevant. It is very short, if you are interested there is no reason not to read it yourself.

[Anonymous No.16783159]

>>16783139
Yet here you are.

>>16783143
>good guys left team (tm)
>evil right wing racists team!!!
It should be clear now these guys are on team jew trying to score against team White.

[Anonymous No.16783165]

>>16783147
>uses Hebrew word for "kurds"
>knows their attire

so Jews ARE in fact shutting this thread down

[Anonymous No.16783166]

>>16783159
I saged. Doing my part

[Anonymous No.16783176]

>>16783165
If I stopped bumping, would it hurt?

[Anonymous No.16783183]

>>16783165
Two anons frantically posting about how the Arabs invaded Israel and are oppressing jews wasn't clue enough?

[Anonymous No.16783195]

>>16783183
But they are invading Israel
Just yesterday I saw one on the bus. I think the next pest management step will be to ban ripped jeans

[Anonymous No.16783216]

>>16783195
Hhhh nahon em ohavim et ze

[Anonymous No.16783268]

>>16783176
>>16783195
>>16783216
not even denying it.

[Anonymous No.16783273]

>>16783268
>>16783216
From maplestory to today, the jews' deadly poison: transliteration.

[Anonymous No.16783290]

>>16783273
Why so? Do you mean the Talmuds that were translated into Latin and caused outrage in medieval Europe?

[Anonymous No.16783324]

>>16783290
>He never played maplestory

[Anonymous No.16783327]

>>16783268
Straight out of the Hasbara playbook. I don't think there's a single people so fragile as jews.

[Anonymous No.16783336]

>>16783327
What are you going to do about it? Don't forget to tip us lol.

[Anonymous No.16783355]

>>16783336
>>16783327
20% for the Americans, please.

[Anonymous No.16783359]

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