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16773332 No.16773332 [Reply] [Original]

What should I read before I start Spengler? I tried to read him but there were too many references I didn't get.

>> No.16773431

Start with the Greeks

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>>16773332
I would say first of all read Goethe and Nietzsche otherwise you're not going to get it:

1. Have decent knowledge about the Greeks
2. Read about the different forms of government of Rome and know all the emperors (especially Caesar - he goes into great depth about him - and the later emperors)
3. Learn about mathematics/physics college degree level
4. Read about Gothic cathedrals.
5. Read a lot about renaissance art and impressionism
6. Read Tolstoy and Dostoevsky (he dedicates entire paragraphs to the deference of the two)
7. Know how economy works
8. Inform yourself about the time the work was written in.
9. Know a shit ton of history to begin with

I only did point 8 really. I already knew a bit about the romans/greeks and about history in general. But if you really want to get it all, you should read "The Decline" a couple of times.

Also pic related will help you

>> No.16773588

>>16773332
Read this first:
The Decline

We are Doomed – John Derbyshire*
America Alone – Mark Steyn*
After America – Mark Steyn*
Death of the West – Pat Buchanan***
The Abolition of Britain – Peter Hitchens

****
Chartism – Thomas Carlyle
Latter-Day Pamphlets – Thomas Carlyle

The Bow of Ulysses – James Anthony Froude
Popular Government – Henry Summers Maine

Shooting Niagara – Carlyle
The Occasional Discourse – Carlyle
On Heroes, Hero Worship & the Heroic in History – Carlyle

The Handbook of Traditional Living – Raido
Men Among the Ruins – Julius Evola
Ride the Tiger – Julius Evola
Revolt Against the Modern World – Julius Evola

Reflections of a Russian Statesman – Konstantin Pobedonostsev
Popular Government – Henry Maine
Patriarcha (the Natural Power of Kings) – Sir Robert Filmer
On Power – Jouvenel
Against Democracy and Equality – Tomislav Sunic
New Culture, New Right – Michael O’Meara
Why We Fight – Guillaume Faye
The Rising Tide of Color – Lothrop Stoddard
Liberty or Equality – Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn
Democracy: The God that Failed – Hans-Hermann Hoppe
****

Government

Mau-mauing the Flak Catchers – Tom Wolfe
Public Choice: An Introduction – Iain McLean
On Government Employment – Foseti (blog post)
Yes, Minister – TV Show

****

History

True History of the American Revolution – Sydney George Fisher

Life and Liberty in America – Charles Mackay
Land of the Dollar – George Steevens
Outre-Mer – Paul Bourget

Shall Cromwell Have a Statue? – Charles Francis Adams Jr.
Memoirs of Service Afloat – Adm. Raphael Semmes
The Roving Editor – James Redpath

Democracy and the Party System in the United States – Moisei Ostrogorskiy
A South-Side View of Slavery – Nehemiah Adams

The Origin of the Late War – Lunt

Reflection on the Revolution in France – Edmund Burke
Origins of English Individualism – Alan MacFarlane
The Shortest-Way With The Dissenters – Daniel Defoe

While you Slept – John T. Flynn
The Road Ahead; America’s Creeping Revolution – John T. Flynn
America’s Retreat from Victory – Joseph R. McCarthy

****

Fiction/Poetry

Complete Verse – Rudyard Kipling*
Harrison Bergeron – Kurt Vonnegut*
Camp of the Saints – Jean Raspail
Darkness at Noon – Arthur Koestler

>> No.16773685

>>16773332
HP

>> No.16774074

>>16773332
mind sharing what references you didn't get? i'd highly recommend watching the mill series youtube lecture by john david ebert first. you also need to have a decent grasp of history itself. you might be best served by reading the histories of some of the high cultures spengler covers, namely greece/rome and western civ (900 ce onwards). the other anons have covered basically everything you need.

>> No.16774156

>>16773588
>read this tangentially related shit I like

lol no

>> No.16774181

it’s too late for you to get an actual education and understand anything

>> No.16774393

>>16774074
>mill series youtube lecture by john david ebert
good shit bruh

>> No.16774402

>>16774156
those seem like good recs anyway
what problems do you have with any of those books?

>> No.16774420

>>16773575
Spbp