A list of books that you could read to further your self growth and development as a person?

[Anonymous No.16733588]

yo, good seeing you guys again. Hope you're having a wonderful night/day. As the title says, anything for self cultivation and growth? Anything goes but please mostly stuff that helps with figuring out who you are and making you ask yourself hard questions.

Not self help bullshit either. thanks and have a good day fellows.

[Anonymous No.16733621]

>>16733588
Most beneficial

Start with Plato's Gorgias. If you agree with him read his Theatetus and his Republic. After Plato read Aristotle's Nichomachaen Ethics. If you agree with him read his Rhetoric. Whether you agree or disagree, read his Metaphysics after. You don't have to read it all but it's a great step to understanding ways to perceive Metaphysics, or systems that map reality (like Physics, the modern subject instead of Aristotle's book, is a system that maps material causation).
After that, check two metaphysical heavyweights out in Parmenides and Heraclitus. From reading Plato and Aristotle you'll see how a Metaphysics can have a wide range of applications in fields like math, a creation narrative, how things exist, ethics etc. Parmenides and Heraclitus are metaphysical extremists but they come from a time before wide applications were expected. What they bring up can be answered by your metaphysics, which you already have before reading these writers.
After that I would recommend reading a nice history of philosophy that is a bit more biased towards your metaphysics so you can see their interpretation across other philosophers.
Alternatively you can read The Cave and the Light by Arthur Hermann for an even take on how universal their metaphysics is.
After that pick where you want to explore and refine your metaphysics. The next big metaphysical clash is between the Stoics and Epicureans. The largest clash would be the German Idealists where a lot of work was done trying to refute the rationalists and empiricists. Ultimately choose what draws you and after exploring that I would read another history of philosophy to tie it all together and fill in knowledge gaps then explore modern philosophy in either the Analytic or Continental philosophers to get more modern tools and terminology to put into your metaphysics.
After that you can explore any piece you missed or want to revisit or you can get into logic and try to develop or adopt a logic language that speaks to your metaphysics.

[Anonymous No.16733666]

>>16733588
>Anything goes but please mostly stuff that helps with figuring out who you are
Do you really want to know that? You might not like what you find.

[Anonymous No.16733728]

>>16733666
That's particular propaganda. Any truth that is more universal or more true is necessarily beneficial to everyone.

[Anonymous No.16733743]

>>16733728
The truth can be blinding to those who've been in the dark a long time. I'm just giving OP a warning.

[Anonymous No.16734251]

>>16733743
Wake me up to who I really am, bad or good. I want to live my life free from others, not chained to the prison of mediocrity and falsehoods. I genuinely want to transform myself.

[Anonymous No.16734260]

>>16734251
Best bet anon >>16733621

[Anonymous No.16734263]

>>16734251
meditate anon, you'll find a lot of benefit in doing so.

[Anonymous No.16734324]

>>16734263
I've had a hard time meditating. Any info or advice on the matter?

[Anonymous No.16734361]

>>16734263
>meditate
pseudo-science.

[Anonymous No.16734703]

>>16734361
I mean, its scientifically proven to help with a lot of things, but whatever man.

[Anonymous No.16734790]

>>16734703
>scientifically proven
Do you use statistics to decide when jerk your dick off bro? Analytically prove it

[Anonymous No.16734868]

>>16733621
And if I disagree with any of these?

[Anonymous No.16734880]

>>16734790
No, it had been used for literal mellenia. I can tell you only see meditation as pseudo-sciene because you're an American who's only view of meditation is New Age hippies.

[Anonymous No.16734908]

>>16734868
You're just skimming for the metaphysics by reading one work which best encapsulates it. If it's not similar to your metaphysics then move on. After your metaphysics gets more developed then you want to be able to account for them in your metaphysics.

Assuming you want an easier entry to Plato or Aristotle, I'd try fiction in Iliad or Tolstoy for Plato and Odyssey or Dosto in Aristotle. Even easier, Superman for Plato and Batman for Aristotle. Either way everything is derivative of a metaphysics which accounts for existence in this universe.

[Anonymous No.16734915]

>>16734880
No I'm not him sry, I was just critiquing the scientific justification of it. I'm not at all against meditation just think the truth behind it should be based on something more fundamental

[Anonymous No.16735022]

>>16734915
I mean, I don't get the lack of fundamentals about it. It calms your mind and helps you focus, unless I'm missing something. Sitting silently for 10 minutes is a lot better than giving all your money to the koolaid man or sitting and using your phone all day.

[Anonymous No.16735026]

>>16734908
I see, thank you very much. Hope you have a good day.

[Anonymous No.16735027]

>>16735022
Yeah but that's not enough. You have to explain your metaphysics then derive it from that and explain exactly what it solves and what it's better than and what's better than it.

[Anonymous No.16735034]

>>16734361
And?

[Anonymous No.16735144]

>>16735027
I don't think I understand you. You are seeing things objectively. Sometimes things are not solutions or are better or worse than something. Meditation is merely quieting your thoughts, some experience other things with it. It's like going for a walk to think, it's not solving anything, it's just a thing.