Dystopia-core

[Anonymous No.16724241]

In "Can Life Prevail", Linkola advocates for voluntary euthanasia, the death penalty, mandatory sterilization, and birth quotas on a global scale in an attempt to avert human-caused ecological meltdown. I would even take it a step further and advocate for mandatory sterilization and purging of, say, the bottom 75% of the global adult population based on things like IQ, social position (are the criminals), and genetic health. Anybody have some other good /lit/ for feel?

[Anonymous No.16724253]

>>16724241
>Let's cause a worldwide tragedy in order to avert the worldwide tragedy Im able to predict because I live in the Finnish wilderness.

[Anonymous No.16724265]

>>16724241
His face looks like a mask

[Anonymous No.16724266]

>>16724253
>t. doesn't want to stop shopping at Walmart
>t. wants 15 children per African

[Anonymous No.16724302]

>>16724241
I'm perfectly fine with sterilizing negroes and spics.

[Anonymous No.16724329]

>>16724241
true finnish eyes.

[Anonymous No.16724348]

>>16724253
>I don't smell smoke so there's no fire
Shut the fuck up neoliberal

[Anonymous No.16724349]

>>16724253
>Let's cause a worldwide tragedy in order to avert the worldwide tragedy

Yes.

[Anonymous No.16724354]

>>16724241
>I would even take it a step further and advocate for mandatory sterilization and purging of, say, the bottom 75% of the global adult population based on things like IQ, social position (are the criminals), and genetic health.
This sounds like a recipe for disaster. Wouldn't it lead to a lot of corruption where it would be the wealthy to remain despite being inferiour in other ways? I would argue a weaponized virus that targets everyone and would remove 75% of the population would be a better alternative
>>16724253
>As Linkola himself has said, "We still have a chance to be cruel. But if we are not cruel today, all is lost."

[Anonymous No.16724366]

>>16724253
>>16724354
Why do psychos pretend to care about tragedy?

[Anonymous No.16724369]

>>16724241
yeah that's never gonna happen. without poor people the rich have no one to sell their products to, and no one to produce the products. I really hope that global warming turns out to be as bad as the libs say it will be. I would love a mass extinction event to wipe out 99% of humanity, even if that means I die. We need a hard restart.

[Anonymous No.16724372]

>>16724253
>There is no difference between stopping ourselves from CONSOOMING the planet to death by enforcing constraints on consumption and sitting on our asses and CONSOOMING until the end because "fuck it dood we're gonna die anyways"
You get the snip, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.16724385]

>>16724354
>I would argue a weaponized virus that targets everyone and would remove 75% of the population would be a better alternative
It would be easier probably but it would be a shame to treat people as equal if we're going to purge 75% of the planet anyways. This would be a great opportunity to make up for millennia of cheating natural selection. We could cut almost all the fat off of our collective genetic well-being.

[Anonymous No.16724403]

[Anonymous No.16724407]

>>16724385
Remove technology and those things would sort themselves. Nature alone would filter the remaining population

[Anonymous No.16724421]

Why are Finns so cold and unfeeling?

[Anonymous No.16724436]

>>16724407
Fair but I unironically think it would be easier to have a NWO impose a global culling than it would be to get normies to voluntarily surrender tech.

[Anonymous No.16724624]

>>16724421
Just Asiatic enough to be truly wicked, but European enough to require a good reason first.

[Anonymous No.16724662]

>>16724624
Well said

[Anonymous No.16724746]

>>16724662
>Arabs part of the White race
/pol/ seething

[Anonymous No.16724814]

>>16724253
the only tragedy is treating human biomass as an inarguable quantitative good

[Anonymous No.16724991]

>>16724241
>Anybody have some other good /lit/ for feel?
Maybe Ted? But I suspect you've read him already. I'm also interested.

[Anonymous No.16725389]

>>16724814
This, all biomass should be fuel for better machines.

[Anonymous No.16725452]

>>16724241
>Bro look at these afrikan niggers living in filth!! its all cause theres too maneeee!!! its not cause they're being exploited and dehmanized by sick neoliberal parasites, no they should just stop making babies and die !!
do neo-Malthusians actually have any reason to take it as a priori that ecological disaster is caused solely by "too many hoomans dood" or is it just an excuse to be retarded psychos/edgy contrarians?
How about starting with killing the 1% of humanity that's actually causing all the pollution (chink factory CEOs mostly) before you throw everything into some frigid psychotic meatgrinder.

[Anonymous No.16725660]

>>16724253

[Anonymous No.16725700]

>>16725452
>How about starting with killing the 1% of humanity that's actually causing all the pollution
I have no issue with this. There's still too many hoomanz. ~1 billion sounds about optimal if we're all rural agrarians, fishermen, and pastoralists.

[Anonymous No.16725714]

>>16725452
>1% of humanity that's actually causing all the pollution (chink factory CEOs mostly)
The next centile would be bumped up to manage those factories as long as there is societal demand for what those factories are producing.

Do you think they burn fuel for fun? Fuel costs money.

[Anonymous No.16725739]

>>16725700
>1 billion sounds about optimal if we're all rural agrarians, fishermen, and pastoralists
This

[Anonymous No.16725764]

>>16725739

[Anonymous No.16725777]

>>16724241
i dont really want to kill people. How about restrict reproduction?

[Anonymous No.16725796]

>>16725700
I was upset when covid only killed like 0.1%.
(The following is stolen)

Basically, a good general guideline is to stay under 1 billion, and in fact closer to 0.5 billion. In terms of Earth’s history, a population of around 500 million humans was reached somewhere between the years 1601AD - 1700AD, and this value is really ideal for a number of good reasons. The most obvious reason is that it is easy to feed everyone at that population count, however there also many, many existential rewards which can be unlocked for mankind, which are very awesome but aren’t immediately obvious. Listed below are some of the rewards that get “unlocked” once humans control their procreation addiction sufficiently to reach a 500,000,000 population count:
>Land becomes massively available, and everyone who wants one can easily own a large, permanent house on a very large plot of land, connected to anything one could ever want. Permanent means it can be owned for centuries and generations of the same family.
>The need for a government-appointed license to do anything at all vanishes completely, and human beings can travel, hunt, fish, etc. completely freely across any area of the Earth, with zero restrictions or need to get a permit so long as it doesn’t encroach on someone’s actual living property.
>Countless forests, gardens, and fields all heal completely at this stage because of a lack of human development activities, and subsequently, humans can reclaim the beauty and majesty of nature as a “magical place” for exploration, falling in love, self-healing, etc. Think of the Forest of Arden in Shakespeare’s play ‘A Midsummer Night’s Dream’ — a pristine, healed forest is a wonderful place to encounter adventure or romance or anything that humans could want to enrich their lives in something that is a little bit magical.
[...]
>Life obtains all of its charms back, and humans naturally gravitate toward a wholesome balance between day-to-day monotony and “creating something a little magical” each day with their lives. This also means that all monotony vanishes from life, and humans never suffer from a joyless, 9–5 existence again because at a population count of 500,000,000 up to 1 billion at the most, the need for routinely monotonous jobs vanishes and absolutely every last human can/will create some kind of work-play-life balance that truly, truly satisfies them and leaves them happy to be alive each and every single day.
>Existence heals itself completely and human beings subsequently heal from all kinds of world weariness, as the planet they inhabit once again obtains the qualities of a wonderful realm to inhabit, and humans therefore like to be alive and don’t feel like killing themselves prematurely because existence has become unbearable.

[Anonymous No.16725816]

>>16724241
>I would even take it a step further and advocate for mandatory sterilization and purging of, say, the bottom 75% of the global adult population based on things like IQ

this would result in less human biodiversity. the more ethical approach is to cull the human population in such a manner that would maximize human biodiversity (a sustainable population for each ethnicity). Basically a lot of chinese and indians would end up culled. All biracial groups would be completely cleansed.

[Anonymous No.16725863]

>>16725777
A world government (or, less likely, every national government working together) imposing a mandatory Earth-wide one-child policy would definitely necessitate some killing and "human rights abuses", likely including forced abortions, infanticide, and the execution of dissidents. The average plebe is much too selfish and shortsighted to make personal sacrifices (ie not having children) for the greater good of our species. If we were going to go through the trouble of doing this we might as well go with >>16724385 and "clean up" the gene pool for the sake of the 0.5 to 1 billion people who would inherit the earth.

[Anonymous No.16725916]

>>16725816
I don't think this is true. A given group only needs 50 people to avoid inbreeding and 500 people to avoid genetic drift (hence the "50/500 rule" https://www.britannica.com/science/50-500-rule).). Though I'm sure some people on 4chan would like to make it a racial thing, I was mainly referring to IQ and health outcomes (strength and fitness, rate of cancer, rate of mental illness, rate of infant mortality, longevity, etc). I suspect if we said that we're going to purge roughly 7.3 BILLION people from the gene pool then we'd see certain races over represented in the post-purge population. My guess is Japanese people would be disproportionately represented as they're often counted among the most intelligent and longest-living populations. We'd inevitably see groups completely purged, I suspect Australian Aborigines would be one such group. I still think a strategy like this would be preferable to a disease or nuclear strike which disproportionately killed ~93% of Earth's population because it would be an opportunity to slingshot natural selection in our species. We'd not only be leaving a better Earth for future generations, we'd be leaving future generations that were themselves better.

[Anonymous No.16725925]

>>16725916
>disproportionately
indiscriminately

[Anonymous No.16726575]

>>16725916
Linkolas whole thing was to preserve and maximize biodiversity. if you set up parameters that discrimiate based on iq, then yes you end up with zero australian abbos. my point is we need to ensure each population survives and is able to propagate themselves sustainable regardless of "genetic health"

[Anonymous No.16726585]

>>16726575
>my point is we need to ensure each population survives and is able to propagate themselves sustainable regardless of "genetic health"
Operating under the assumption that each human ethnic group is just a subgroup of one species, would it not be better to preserve only our best?

[Anonymous No.16726619]

>>16724421
The ones who are warm and feeling kill themselves

[Anonymous No.16726725]

>>16726585
That's one hell of an assumption kek

[Anonymous No.16726744]

>>16725916
>My guess is Japanese people would be disproportionately represented
Anon, I agree wholeheartedly with your plan, and would like to adamantly support you in all your endeavors.

[Anonymous No.16726757]

Did Bill Gates read Linkola?

[Anonymous No.16726979]

>>16726725
Yes it is and I absolutely don't agree with it but explaining it in terms of desirable characteristics within the INDIVIDUAL and then pretending to be surprised when there are 15 black people and no Abbos left is the best way. It's a very fine line between getting normie support because save the treez and getting no support because you're disproportionately wiping out non-whites. Asians will fare quite well, however. I don't care about race, I care about IQ, health, and general genetic quality. It just so happens that these two variables have an... uncomfortable correlation.
>>16726744
There will be plenty of cute Asian farmer girls to choose from in the 500mil eco-utopia.

[Anonymous No.16727240]

>>16726979
>There will be plenty of cute Asian farmer girls to choose from
POGGERS