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one must imagine sisyphus happy

>> No.16687503

Looks comfy.

>> No.16687518

https://www.nsfwyoutube.com/watch?v=7Sq-HYGfnIo

>> No.16687522

I couldnt ever work in an office unless my desk was situated in a way that people werent able to look at my monitor.

>> No.16687524

>>16687489
Camus is shit

>> No.16687529

>>16687489
I wish my office had that much space

>> No.16687534

>>16687518
And he probably had to pay for all of it.

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>> No.16687542

>>16687489
Only people who have never done hard physical labor post like this. I would literally kill OP to work there.

>> No.16687545

All of a sudden

>> No.16687548

>>16687542
suffering is relative x

>> No.16687552

>>16687489
First world problems?

>> No.16687560

Omg this is it this is the thread ok this is the thread this is it here I go someone please respond

>> No.16687567

If you wanna avoid this just become a fag and become a bottom for some rich queerbag nigger bitch cocksucker

>> No.16687593
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>>16687518

>> No.16687631

Is he watching Sisyphus hypno?

>> No.16687650

>>16687518
Yes
YES

>> No.16688007

>>16687489
But Sisyphus WASNT happy, it was eternal torture. Imagining him happy is just marginalizing his suffering.

>> No.16688045

>>16687542
suffering is relative x

>> No.16688052

>>16688007
BASED

>> No.16688056

>>16687542
One is imagining Sisyphus is happy.

>> No.16688060

>>16687542
why not work as a security guy or something? it's boring as fuck but if hard physical labor bothers you, you might prefer it. that's i'm assuming you're not making big bucks rn anyways, of course

i used to work security (doorman, night shifts doing rounds in private parking lots etc) and i much prefer what i do now, got a job at a medium-large gallery where i move around paintings, scultures and such (arriving in shipments to storage, storage to the exhibition spaces, help with prep etc). it's not hard labor but it's physical and you drag stuff around all day, some of the statues can be 500 lbs +, love it, time flies. can't imagine working a routine office job where you just sit on your ass all day doing the same shit day in day out. unless it it was something i really loved doing

>> No.16688208

>>16687542
>Only people who have never done hard physical labor post like this.
I'm an electrician and I think it's pretty comfy.

>> No.16688351

>>16687489
Honestly why don't people just move out to a cabin in the countryside if they're stuck in the samsara of wagery, surely it's better than being a cog, a beast, something less than human.

>> No.16688377

>>16688351
Taxes. You’d still have to work

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Wagie, wagie, back in cagie.

>> No.16688456

>>16687542
Physical labour is far better. Youre moving and can have some relation to something resembling humans. I can't imagine anything worse than sitting in a cuck cubicle of human resources sprawl. The middle class is the wworst of technical scum.
Also, read Against Domestication.

>> No.16688465

>>16687542
t. retard

>> No.16688562
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>>16687542
THIS
All the replies to this post are cope by losers who will never accomplish anything in life. You are lucky enough to be born in the best country on Earth and have the opportunity to be rich but you have to get rid of the loser mentality.

>> No.16688994

>>16688562
This guy in the pic is definitely voting for Biden.

>> No.16689133

Man, it's so pathetic, I make a lot of money working in an office, but I hate it. I tell myself I will stop once I reach this or that milestone but the goals keep getting completed and I just keep adding on new ones. There's no end in sight. One of of these hustler types, grind grind grind. And the worst part is I wouldn't even know what to do if I made a million and I could quit. I seem to have lost a sense of any creative passion or any longing for anything. The inactivity caused by not having to work would probably drive me insane.

>> No.16689146

>>16689133
The hard truth is you never had any creativity or passion to begin with. This is why you are a good drone.

>> No.16689180

>>16688562
>HARD WORK PAYS OFF!!!!
sorry mike rowe, but it doesn't. never did. busted my ass for years in a shop, working 50-60 hours a week, just to watch a lazy asshole that came in after me rocket through the ranks because he was the nephew of the plant manager.

the american dream of making it big from working hard never existed. if that principle were true, then the illegal immigrants making minimum wage doing drywall and roofing would be the richest men in the country. but they aren't. it's the lazy, cutthroat assholes with connections that are profiting.

>>16689133
if you hate it then fucking quit. you live in a first world nation. you'll be fine, you'll live, if you're smart enough to hack it. you have no one to blame but yourself for your own misery.

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>>16687518
You rage, you lose.

>> No.16689282

>>16687522
Why? You shouldn't be doing anything than work stuff on it.

>> No.16689311

>>16687518
Holy fucking based, what was he hiding in his cabinet though

>> No.16689313

>>16687503
cope

>> No.16689315

>>16687503
Fpbp

>> No.16689326

>>16688562
>the celebrity with a TV show extols the virtues of hard work.
I will never not hate this guy.

>> No.16689340

>>16688562
The biden mentality. Work hard and pay your tolls, bigot.

>> No.16689352

>>16688562
>#5
Say what you will about this "pledge", but that is a seriously good point to live by.

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>One must imagine Sisyphus happy.

>> No.16689400

>>16688007
sisyphus is a word, the monkey is doing his suffering by choosing to exist

>> No.16689514

>>16687503
>>16687542
Ignorant as fuck

>> No.16689526

>>16687542
I used to be an electritian before I fell for the office meme and I can tell you that bureaucracy is some soul sucking shit, at least in my former job I could go around the city and interact with new people , each day felt like a different experience.
But now I don't even feel the passing of time.

>> No.16689541

>>16687489
I don't remember Sisyphus getting paid, having other rock-pushers to shoot the shit with, or getting weekends and vacation time to himself.

>inb4 stop being so literal
I'm sorry but the analogy sucks.

>> No.16689556

>>16687542
and then as soon as you had it, you'd fucking hate it, you dumbass. Man is always becoming something else. You fucking idiot you never learn.

>> No.16689609 [DELETED] 

>>16689541
>pushing the rock of getting paid, having shit shooting opportunities and vacation time
monkey being monkey is worse than being monkey refusing to be monkey.

>> No.16689613

>>16689609
Hello bot

>> No.16689626

>>16688060
Yeah, that would be the dream. Anons calling me ignorant never worked so hard they were too stiff to move after or fucked up their backs. Sorry you had a little existential tremor but I've worked in an office too. The day would fly by in a blur, I'd get paid a good wage, and I'd go to the beach to drink whiskey amd sodas with my coworker. Now I lay in bed because I moved a shitton of furniture up and down a five story walkup.

If you think what I do is better, give me your job.

>> No.16689645

>>16689626
What’s preventing you from getting another office job?

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>>16689645
I'm looking for one again. I don't know why I couldn't get one in the past. I have qualifications (4 year degree, blah blah) but I never got through the interviews. I think I'm just a scary looking person. Eventually I fell into working in kitchens which was rewarding work for me so i stuck with it. Then COVID hit and I lost my cushy corporate kitchen job with good prospects. Now I imagine my resume looks pretty mediocre.

Recently I've been pursuing overnight baking jobs and I recently got a job doing deliveries on foot which i don't mind so much, evsn if its for a certain totalitarian corporation. But I'll still be doing moving on the side to help make ends meet.

>> No.16689690

>>16687542
I worked both office monkey stuff and the dumbest kind of hard labour like pulling up concrete with pickaxe, carrying rubble in buckets back and forth all day etc.
It has it's upsides, you're more fit, you feel better about your job, you're usually outside and your co-workers might as well be buddies.
On the other hand you will fuck up your back and knees by the time you're in your 30s, you come home physically exhausted which is still worse than being mentally exhausted and you're just less motivated overall in my experience.
I'll take my office job any day, all the downsides of it I can negate in like an hour at home.

>> No.16689692

>>16688562
It's important to believe in your own personal agency, but not because it's factual or anything close to true. The truth is that while you might work hard, the factors which created the person who has the ability to work hard were completely beyond that person's control. This is a falsifiable statement which is ultimately true. While nobody can know the degree to which one factor dominates the other, we are undeniably products of our environments AT LEAST as much as we're exercising personal agency. While I think that the list he's holding in his smug little hands are words to live by (I live by my own version of them myself) there's very little evidence that you can just sign that piece of paper and suddenly you're on an even playing field with someone who had a good father who instilled a good work ethic, for example. I'm sure it's very gratifying to be successful and have this illusion that it's purely due to your own work ethic, but to buy into it completely is ultimately not a rational viewpoint.

>> No.16689768

the best thing is probably doing manual labor for the city, like working for the parks department or something. you get to be outside, you move around, interact with the public sometimes but not too much, good benefits, reliable hours and you only work half of them. If you're ever driving around the suburbs in the middle of the day and see a municipal work truck parked in some random sidestreet odds are like 50/50 they're just hiding - especially if there's a cluster of them within a block or two of a pub.

>> No.16689771

>>16687503
how? it looks terrible

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>>16687542
here's your life in a office bro

>> No.16689804

>>16689784
That looks insanely comfy.

>> No.16690182

>>16688351

Because we've made sure that any sort of subsistence and freedom is overshadowed by ones duty to the state, and to others, not to mention laws on land, property etc. Most western democracies are insipidly utilitarian, the people even more so than the politicians. Here in the Uk, "doing your bit" is vastly more important to people than having real primal freedom, which means the average worker will most often deify work per se, even if it's entirely degrading. To them it's better to be doing your civic duty and not question the actual value of doing said duty. I've talked to a lot of people here who, when suggested the option of living out in the country somewhere or creating a self sufficient commune or homestead (I'm a pragmatic communalist), they immediately go into the whole " oh that's nice for you, but what about contributing to the economy?". I swear, angloids are the biggest slaves in the western world, the memes about proles waiting outside of Greggs reading The Sun are true.

>> No.16690217

>>16690182
>oh that's nice for you, but what about contributing to the economy
Literally no one has ever said this.

>> No.16690248

>>16688562
this is why people invented the guillotine.

>> No.16690511

>>16687542
I've done roofing and that was preferable to sitting in an office all day every day. I got to see all sorts of place from up high, got adrenaline rushes just doing my job, had some laughs with the lads, offices are so stifling

>> No.16690528

>>16687542
To be fair, office work can be uncomfy as well if you're working in industries like investment banking or management consulting. When it's a low-pressure, 9-5 job I can see the coziness.

>> No.16690568

>>16689282
Because I can't think when people are peering over my shoulder.

>> No.16690592

>>16687560
hi :3

>> No.16690611

>>16688562
>opportunity to be rich
one must imagine sisyphus happy

>> No.16690640

>>16689784
>>16689804
YOU HAVE TO USE THAT WHEEL WHEN I TELL YOU AND DRINK THAT WATER WHEN I TELL YOU

NO SLACKING OFF!

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I was fascinated when I first read the myth of sisyphus, until I realized it's basically a bourgeois justification for a precarious job market and unfair material conditions.
>>16688562
case in point.

>> No.16690648

>>16687631
Lmao

>> No.16691538

>>16687518
Return to monke

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>>16690640

>> No.16692212

>>16687542
I'd always prefer physical labour over sitting in front of the screen. Brain literally gets smarter when you move, because new connections are being created by movement, it was designed for action. Also, free gains, ideal situation really. If you don't want to die early in your life and have zero testosterone and Alzheimer's you'd have to go the gym after office work anyway. So why overcomplicate it and create unnecessary clutter in your day schedule?

retard

>> No.16692250

>>16687518
God, I wish there was audio. Imagine those women shrieking like baboons

>> No.16692275

>>16687518
The tiger
he destroyed his cage

>> No.16692294

Been reading Bullshit Jobs: A Theory. And it's really good. But /lit/ doesn't want to talk about that.

>> No.16692302

>>16687489
I can't even imagine myself happy let alone Sisyphus.

>> No.16692334

>>16690182

You're bitching about people with a "do your bit" mindset but state that you are a pragmatic communalist. You're probably just socially unlikable and are imagining a scenario where you're more important in the community than you are now in a weirdly distorted power fantasy you're passing off as an alternative ideology.

>> No.16692338

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOkQJm_UGM4

>*STOMP STOMP CLAP*

What's more humiliating is when your manager reads some arrogant self-help/how-to-boost-your-workers-productivity piece and tries to implement these half baked ideas in the workplace.

>> No.16692384

>>16687489
oh not another cubicle thread, wagie wagie in the cagie, wow a bunch of people providing for their families because they weren't born into a rich family, it's just like the book from camus guys, look they have a computer with internet connection, haha haven't they read 1984, so smart social analysis

literal fosil Chomsky said it better, someone has to do those fucking jobs you intelectual imbeciles

>> No.16692397

haha not being a stupid cubie or a cashier gives me enough time to do what I want all day and read all the literature I want,

construction workers read more back in the day than you do right now with all the free time, and they probably understood what Dickens was writing about more than you ever will,

go fap to your hentai and don't open a thread again

>> No.16692403

>>16687489
The first four seasons of the office + the Pale King (which, by the way, were written in parallel and reference each other, as proven by the deep friendship between Greg Daniels and DFW, as well as their numerous conversations) I do not feel this is horrible anymore

>> No.16692428

>>16692384
>someone has to do those fucking jobs you intelectual imbeciles
You said it yourself: computers. Most jobs today are pointless busywork.

>> No.16692501

>>16692384
>someone has to do those fucking jobs you intelectual imbeciles
Yes the world is much improved by marketing analytics or what the fuck ever

>> No.16692507

>>16692338

If only you understood how desperate it feels as a manager trying to motivate lowest common denominator mouthbreathers to just clear the minimum standards required of their position every day. I hate all that motivational corporate nonsense too, but who knows what I might be willing to try ten years from now if I'm still in charge of entry level workers. I dream of making it into a tier of management where I have junior managers or skilled labor as my team instead.

>> No.16692513

>>16692507
No sympathy for you, you class-traitor bitch

>> No.16692690

>>16692513
is this post ironic?

>> No.16692715

>>16687518
Love this. The makers of the song never made a dime due to a copyright lawsuit

>> No.16692750

>>16692507
>Commanding mouth-breathers
>Not being a mouth-breather
>Not having common ground with mouth-breathers
>Can't relate to mouth-breathers on any level

Sounds like you aren't a very good manager, honestly. Maybe you'd suit better as a librarian?

>> No.16692793

>>16692513

You think a post-revolution west won't require somebody doing my exact job? I make my living organizing people to accomplish tasks. That's it. I'm paid slightly more than the unskilled workers because I'm the one who is held responsible if the job doesn't get done. In a communist society there is someone exactly like me doing the exact same thing under the exact same circumstances, because it's necessary. So spare me your class traitor shtick, I'm just a different kind of skilled labor.

>> No.16692845

guys. maybe camus is right, maybe he doesn't. it doesn't matter. just don't read him, don't get familiar with his ideas. get familiar with stoics or positive realists instead. read enough of the people whose ideas promote productivity and most importantly, happiness, and you will be more productive and happy. it really is that easy. i remember being very sad once when I was a kid, and thinking I hated being sad and why was I always sad. I looked at the mirror in my room and just started smiling manually, and held it for a while, and I started to feel better

>> No.16692950

>>16692507
Raises and upward mobility are what's gonna motivate your workers. Making them do these degrading "motivation" activities will just ensure that even the dumbest idiot will halfass everything because they can smell the incredibly obvious bullshit.

>> No.16692953

>>16692715
I love Bittersweet Symphony. One of my fav songs.

>> No.16692966

>>16692513
>implying classes are real

>> No.16692980

>>16687518
fucking kino

>> No.16692998

>>16692950

I refuse to make my people do that sort of demeaning shit. But man, if you think tbrowing money at someone magically makes them a better worker, you couldn't be more wrong.

>> No.16693000

>>16687542
I never did "hard" physical labor, just the regular kind and it's hugely preferable to sitting in a cube all day working on shit you do not care about.

>> No.16693069

>>16692212
>>16690511
>>16689784
>>16688208
>>16688456
>>16688465
>>16689514
>>16689556
Mongoloids who have never had a physical job that made your body be in constant pain need to shut the fuck up.

>> No.16693074

>>16692507
You'd have to have down syndrome to be motivated by that

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>> No.16693109

>>16693069
Its all about balance. Whenever Im not doing strenuous physical labor Im wishing I was. Then when I am Im wishing I wasnt.

>> No.16693124

>>16692998
>But man, if you think tbrowing money at someone magically makes them a better worker, you couldn't be more wrong.
explain
it's on the tip of my tongue (or mind) but I just can't acertain why is it that someone's a lazy slob
they always say the pay is shit so they purposefully work as little as they can but I think that's just an excuse, they could be paid an amount that would make them lsoe all their money problems and I'm sure they'd still be just as lazy

>> No.16693140

>>16693124
They could be paid a higher amount knowing its entirely dependent on their performance and not slack off because they dont want to lose that money.
But there are always people who will do the absolute minimum and willingly take pay cuts just to take less responsibility.

>> No.16693147

>>16693140
but these people live stressed daily because they have a family to feed a mortgage to pay etc and more money should reduce this money-related stress yet they still choose to slack off

>> No.16693272

>>16688351
>Honestly why don't people just move out to a cabin in the countryside if they're stuck in the samsara of wagery
So they can inherit the samsara of that lifestyle? What a brilliant exchange.

>> No.16693844

>>16688060
What is the official title for the job?

>> No.16693931

>>16688351
because you still need money to be able to buy that cabin, pay property taxes year after year, food, and medicine if you get sick

>> No.16693963

>>16693272
Yes, it is

>> No.16694009

>>16689771
Why does it look terrible?

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>>16693963

>> No.16694139

>>16693844
Sounds like he's talking about a Curatorial Assistant

>> No.16695120

>>16693844
Titty Inspector

>> No.16695129

>>16689374
fucking underrated

>> No.16695162

>>16689180
>the american dream of making it big from working hard never existed. if that principle were true, then the illegal immigrants making minimum wage doing drywall and roofing would be the richest men in the country. but they aren't. it's the lazy, cutthroat assholes with connections that are profiting.
lol, i bet you hate self made men like elon musk

>> No.16695189

>>16692428
>You said it yourself: computers. Most jobs today are pointless busywork.
IT does not increase productivity

>> No.16695192

>>16692793
>In a communist society I will direct other's labour power.

Nice try tankie.

>> No.16695195

>>16688351
Because police will hunt you down and imprison you if you try to live by yourself without paying taxes.

>> No.16695210

>>16695195
That's not true. You'll need to pay property taxes, that's it. Alternatively, you can also buy land in unorganized parts of alaska where no property taxes are levied whatsoever.

>> No.16695251

>>16695210
>That's not true.
>goes on to confirm that it is indeed true
kys you dumb fucking mutt nigger.

>> No.16695256

>>16695251
Parts of alaska have no property tax, so it isn't true. Regardless you could make enough on SSI payments to more than adequately pay enough in property tax elsewhere . You're the one who is stupid.

>> No.16695382

>>16687489
anyone know which CAD program left is working on?

>> No.16695424

>>16695210
You might as well tell them to go live on Mars if they don't want to pay taxes. -50 degrees is not a joke. Sustenance living in moderate climes is one thing. This is completely untenable for almost every singular individual.