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This is 100% serious thread
A little bit ago I took a real IQ test, one of the ones required by Mensa to get in, and today I got the results back. Apparently I have 146IQ. I thought it might be high, like maybe 130, but I didn't expect that high. Now I feel like I've been wasting my life not accomplishing hardly anything of note.
Are there any books which could guide me in the utilization of my potential? I don't even know what I should be doing, but I don't want to waste more of my life playing video games or whatever when I have such potential.

>> No.16622141

apparently you're still not smart enough to figure this out yourself

>> No.16622143

>Are there any books which could guide me in the utilization of my potential?
just do what you like and go from there
unironically

what other kind of advice do you expect to be given?
'don't slack off'?
it's obvious

>> No.16622152

>>16622133
i mean you know very well what you should be doing. if you haven't got an education, get one. if/when you have an education, get a job.

>> No.16622159

>>16622143
I meant more philosophically. Not so much how to be good at something, more like how to decide what to be good at, or something that would inspire me to focus in a specific area. "What I like" is essentially maturbation and not satisfying because anyone can be good at a random hobby. I'm seeking greatness in some way.

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>>16622152
>if you haven't got an education, get one. if/when you have an education, get a job.

>> No.16622173

>>16622133
Just do something. If it doesn't work out, do something else. Inaction is what tends to hold highly intelligent people back. They spend too much time preparing, not enough time experiencing. You'll learn the most through experience.

>> No.16622176

>>16622152
I am already successful with a job and home and hobbies. But everyone has that. If I'm supposed to be 1 in 10000 intellect or whatever it is, should I not strive for more, for some kind of legacy or rare achievement? Something that would give me true satisfaction to accomplish? Yet what could that be?

>> No.16622182

>>16622159
>I'm seeking greatness in some way.
Nobody is going to advise you to do that, because the only way to achieve greatness is to go in the exact opposite of common sense and succeed despite everything.

>> No.16622185

>>16622173
Are there any books about this so that I can spend more time preparing by reading about people like me over preparing?

>> No.16622188

>>16622176
pick one thing and stick to it. or do you just want me to give you something for you to excel at? ok: spanish poetry. now go be a genius at that.

>> No.16622194

>>16622188
speaking spanish is as far from greatness as you can be

>> No.16622198

>>16622194
well clearly you lack natural genius: a genius creates new rules. thus: he could make spanish something great.

>> No.16622203

>>16622198
the laws of the universe are immutable, even to genius

>> No.16622208

>>16622185
Read Skin in the Game by Nassim Taleb and also read the novel Oblomov to see your antimodel (the person you don't want to be).

>> No.16622222

>>16622194
This isn't me

>>16622188
True, it really comes down to that I must pick something. Yet I've always had this problem that I feel anything I pick might not be "worth" doing. Spanish poetry for example: is that worth getting into when I could write a novel, when I could get a chess title, when I could become an oil painter, or whatever else? Deciding on a path is fundamentally arbitrary because there are no axioms by which to decide what is "worth doing". The only criterium that leads anywhere is to do what you're passionate about or what brings you joy, but I have nothing like that. The only things that bring me true joy are lifting weights and cooking, neither of which are going to make much use of 145 IQ.
So I guess it's really just a matter of picking some random thing

>> No.16622241

>>16622133
cringe

>> No.16622250

>>16622222
>it's really just a matter of picking some random thing
Don't pick something random. Pick something you would like to master, something you could be proud of. And that's not necessarily something you have any passion for now. Oftentimes the passion follows the mastery. For example, my parents made me learn the violin and for years I didn't enjoy it but once I was able to play at a high level I began to love it. Being good at something feels good.

>> No.16622265

>>16622133
IQ does not represent potential. There are many more factors such as drive, creativity, and upbringing which are just as vitally important. If this has made you realize that you should do something with your life other than just play video games then that is of course a good thing, but you're not going to achieve great things unless you put in the effort.

>> No.16622271

>>16622222
>is that worth getting into when I could write a novel, when I could get a chess title, when I could become an oil painter, or whatever else?
Don't you just hate these people, those that keep saying that they could do anything if they just wanted to, but in actuality they do nothing? They just moan and complain on 4chan, or become crabs.
Because is it really worth getting into anything? Certainly, just thinking about it and doing nothing is a much more of a worthwhile pursuit. Fucking retard, your indecision is already a decision.

>> No.16622277

>>16622133
>when I have such potential
The fact that you haven't already manifested this apparently genius level IQ is proof that you never had this potential you've attributed yourself in the first place.

>> No.16622289

>>16622141
based street smart anon

>> No.16622298

>>16622133
>muh video games boogeyman
every time

>> No.16622299

>>16622133
>wasted potential
This is a meme. What is it that you want is the only important thing, don't fall for the usual mcdonald metaphysics of realization. Life is not a videogame, there's nothing to accomplish, nothing to win at the end. Just get what you want and do what you want. You are not supposed to be of service, if you don't want to. If you want to use your intelligence to play Age of Empires after working in an office with not much pressure, you can do that, as long as that is what you want.

>> No.16622350

>>16622133
fakest post in the history of posts

>> No.16622351

>>16622133
I can't imagine a legitimate genius having to ask this kind of question. In the extremely intelligent people that I've known, they have a natural inclination towards hobbies that make use of their potential. You sound like a midwit who happened to score really high on an IQ test.

>> No.16622355

>undergrads wanking off to the idea of genius from the 1700s: the thread.

>> No.16622418

>>16622176
You sound like a simpleton. Just quietly keep doing what you've been doing until you die

>> No.16622486

>>16622271
>Don't you just hate these people, those that keep saying that they could do anything if they just wanted to, but in actuality they do nothing? They just moan and complain on 4chan
Woah... he is literally me

>> No.16622490

>>16622133
>This is 100% serious thread
>A little bit ago I took a real IQ test, one of the ones required by Mensa to get in, and today I got the results back. Apparently I have 90IQ. I thought it might be high, like maybe 95, but I didn't expect that high. Now I feel like I've been wasting my life not accomplishing hardly anything of note.
>Are there any books which could guide me in the utilization of my potential? I don't even know what I should be doing, but I don't want to waste more of my life playing video games or whatever when I have such potential.

>> No.16622496

>>16622490
who are you quoting?`

>> No.16622498

>>16622133
Sick of these depressing pictures.

>> No.16622541

>>16622133
You should work on your ego first of all.

>> No.16622548

Read widely and without reservation until you find a passion. Then follow it as deeply as you can manage.

>> No.16622549

>>16622298
Digital simulacrum bad.

>> No.16622550

>>16622548
retard advice

>> No.16622554

OP here, wow, you retards are seething lol. Enjoy your copium!

>> No.16622556

>>16622159
You don't "decide" what you'll be great at, you're just drawn to and can't escape it.

>> No.16622612

>>16622133

You know how smart can you really be if you needed a test to decide to do something with your life
My advice is do whatever comes natural greatness can't be forced or sped up no matter how much imaginary potential you think you have

>> No.16622622

>>16622222
Be someone like Pierre Duhem: big brain philosopher-physicist who dabbles in the history of science. Those guys have the widest skills in the academia, be it knowing Greek and Arabic or engaging with the lates research in algebra and topology. If you ever start a blog or something similar where you record your progress, I'd like to check it out sometimes.

>> No.16622623

>>16622203
the laws of the universe do not exist.
geniuses create them.

>> No.16622628

>>16622623
good take, but let's ask leonardo da vinci what he thinks about it

oh wait, he's dead

>> No.16622703

>>16622628
leonardo was a genius.
thats why he isnt dead.

>> No.16622718

>>16622703
keep telling yourself that sweetie

>> No.16622732

>>16622718
keep living life in the auto-mode.

>> No.16622733

>>16622732
keep projecting

>> No.16623181

>>16622351
yes
at the 140+ range they are all into math/physics/poetry from a very, very early age, no expections. op is very bad larping

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>>16623181
>they are all into math/physics/poetry from a very, very early age
unless they start watching anime first

>> No.16623220

>>16623193
>>16623181

Eh I had a test done got to be around one year ago that placed me at 143(which something the OP should note, I don’t buy, because crystalline knowledge and your particular interests can highly influence the test) and I personally have been interested in religion, theology and philosophy since 5 years old. There’s a lot of fields which can get the intellect interested, assuming it isn’t just crystalline knowledge which his studies and day-job have given him that is.

>> No.16623249

>>16622133
Not a book but go into a multi day blinding rage towards yourself until your consciousness briefly splits so you can communicate with multiple parts of it while holding the threat of suicide as leverage. You'll tell yourself what the problem is and what you're supposed to do. Get a full night's sleep, wake up and use what you learned as a plan. It won't be smooth sailing afterwards but nothing is.
Also, the end number doesn't mean as much as the spread of scores, especially if you're at the upper end.
t. 90-145 range

>> No.16623268

>>16622133
Smartest man in the world only does the work he enjoys and hates niggers

Maybe you can use your smarts to further his Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe, or prove it wrong and create your own

>> No.16623274

>>16622141
kek

>> No.16623283

>>16622222
Nice digits

>> No.16623297

>>16622548
>Read widely and without reservation until you find a passion
And maybe meet people

>> No.16623298

>>16622133
>real iq test
>preliminary online quizz for midwit club
lol

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16623339

Grab your dick. Start jacking off, but not to porn, anything sex unrelated. No visuals, close your eyes. Let your thoughts wonder, try everything until you mange to cum.

At that moment you will know. You have found your passion, whatever it is. How you feel afterwards, will decide if you think it's worthwhile.

>> No.16623389

>>16622133
Start w the greeks

Start with Plato's Gorgias. If you agree with him read his Theatetus and his Republic. After Plato read Aristotle's Nichomachaen Ethics. If you agree with him read his Rhetoric. Whether you agree or disagree, read his Metaphysics after. You don't have to read it all but it's a great step to understanding ways to perceive Metaphysics, or systems that map reality (like Physics, the modern subject instead of Aristotle's book, is a system that maps material causation).
After that, check two metaphysical heavyweights out in Parmenides and Heraclitus. From reading Plato and Aristotle you'll see how a Metaphysics can have a wide range of applications in fields like math, a creation narrative, how things exist, ethics etc. Parmenides and Heraclitus are metaphysical extremists but they come from a time before wide applications were expected. What they bring up can be answered by your metaphysics, which you already have before reading these writers.
After that I would recommend reading a nice history of philosophy that is a bit more biased towards your metaphysics so you can see their interpretation across other philosophers.
Alternatively you can read The Cave and the Light by Arthur Hermann for an even take on how universal their metaphysics is.
After that pick where you want to explore and refine your metaphysics. The next big metaphysical clash is between the Stoics and Epicureans. The largest clash would be the German Idealists where a lot of work was done trying to refute the rationalists and empiricists. Ultimately choose what draws you and after exploring that I would read another history of philosophy to tie it all together and fill in knowledge gaps then explore modern philosophy in either the Analytic or Continental philosophers to get more modern tools and terminology to put into your metaphysics.
After that you can explore any piece you missed or want to revisit or you can get into logic and try to develop or adopt a logic language that speaks to your metaphysics.

>> No.16623395

>>16622222
Based digits

>> No.16623451
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>>16622222
Truth is the highest thing we can attain too. Start with introductory philosophy or mind and neuroscience, then Plato, then process philosophy, and then check out the Gnostics.

>> No.16623537

>>16623451
you won't find any truth in the writings of others, retard
>introductory philosophy or mind and neuroscience,
Yeah, sure you will find truth in stuff that will become outdated a decade from now on, and the rest is already outdated

>> No.16623628

>>16623537
Gnostics have been right about the nature of the material world for millenia.

Phenomenology lies at a level below physics as the basis of all knowledge and so Husserl and Hegel will not become outdated.

>> No.16623659

>>16622133
>146IQ
lol, it starts at 170, brainlet

>> No.16623719

>>16622299
most based take so far

>> No.16623763

Autists here fellate themselves over IQ not knowing that EQ is equally as important if not more when approaching two SDs above the average

>> No.16623772

>>16622133
numbers on a piece of paper don't mean much when you are too stupid to do anything with your life

>> No.16623975

>>16623181
Lmao you're wrong. If their environments don't encourage it, they will not be involved in anything intellectual

>> No.16624343

>>16622159
Don't be a wanker haha

>> No.16624369

>>16623181
My parents are not into those things. They both read novels mostly bestsellers and genre stuff. They both work too hard though too, and they both drink too much. I honestly think nurture is greater than nature. I hope that my parents can live long after retirement so they can find themselves.

>> No.16624488

>>16622133
>not accomplishing hardly anything of note
So you'll fit right in at Mensa

>> No.16624532

>>16623181
OP here. Nope, my childhood interest was computers and I became a software guy. It's really boring and easy though and I only do it at this point because they pay me a lot of money.

>>16622299
What I want is to live on a homestead, have a blue eyed wife with 7 children, and realize the highest level of actualization I am capable of

>>16622351
Nah it's the opposite for me. Because I had that kind of inclination until around 19, I kind of got tired of everything being about thoughts, and intentionally went down the path of the physical and the artistic for awhile. I became interested in lifting weights, athletics, pushing my body to the limits when I had previously ignored my body out of some misguided sense of ego. Cooking, too, was a nice escape from thinking all the time, because it is live and primal and ends in the natural pleasure of eating. It is precisely because I had "a natural inclination towards hobbies that make use of their potential" for my whole early life that I became disenchanted with that sort of thing and sought a more physical life.
But I've been coming to realize lately, even before this test, that I should go back to a balance now and truly become Great

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>>16624532
>intentionally went down the path of the physical and artistic for a while
Sounds like a lot of people who were put in shitty American gifted programs in school. They overemphasize "smart people" subjects to the point where you're not even sure if you like them or are just expected to like them. I pretended to like chess for years because it impressed people and I thought it was the gifted thing to do.
I don't know where you live but if you're into the idea of homesteading you should learn more about self-sufficiency skills and small scale agriculture. There are always new things to learn and new, more efficient ways to run a homestead. Some of these skills can be very useful if you want to get involved with agricultural extension research without having a degree if you want to contribute to something like that.

>> No.16625011

>>16622133
I love all the crab mentality in these replies. There are some people who are simply incapable of saying anything nice, helpful, or supportive.

>> No.16625028

>>16622133
OP, you should train your mind with philosophy. It will help you utilize your IQ without outside disturbances. I also recommend getting some business knowledge. There's a weird stigma against business these days, but the knowledge is valuable. It will help you with virtually all practical things you try to do. Accounting, corporate finance, some marketing, and some basic business administration will help. You'll also want to make sure you're good with personal finance.

I can't recommend anything beyond this, because it depends on your personality. For instance, if you're into technology, that's a good route to go down. If not, some other field, such as medicine, law, or finance would be better.

>> No.16625056

>>16622133
Lots of pretty stupid suggestions in this thread.
I will tell you what will actually help you.
Give up the idea of utilizing your potential.
Have as your goal to fade unremarkably from history: try to become a complete anon.
Don't try to create anything at all. If you are meant to create something, it will come naturally.
If you feel like writing, write for yourself. Write a journal, and allow yourself to grow through conversation with yourself.
Read the great books of the past: don't fall for the meme that you don't need to.
In short, seek to become a solitary.

Congratulations anon. You are probably intelligent. You have to go through a type of intellectual discipline in order to become anything but merely clever though.

>> No.16625148

>>16624532
Here is my guess.
You were from a young age considered to be very intelligent. You say you have just taken an IQ test: I am going to bet that you have done very well at standardized tests since you were small. This created in you a sense that you must do something with the knowledge you have been given. Other people made this problem worse: at least once in your life you have been told that you have a responsibility to use your intelligence for something great.

Over time your whole identity crystallized around this kernel of understanding your value to lie in your intelligence; if you were creating yourself as a RPG character, you would say that you put all your stats into INT. You also have experienced, no doubt, the weird doubling where you feel a slight doubt that you actually are smart, but then must immediately hide from yourself the fact that you doubt yourself, and you give yourself evidences based on past achievements proving that the doubt is not well founded. But the reason you doubt at all is that at some level you realize you are doing violence to yourself by valuing your intelligence above all else: you are reducing yourself.

The fact that you took an IQ test is symptomatic of this larger problem: you need to prove to yourself that you are smart. Having gotten for yourself another proof of your intelligence (I don't doubt you got a 146 on an IQ test), you create this thread merely to brag: you want to exhibit your achievement to the world.

Anon, you are very good at taking these tests. You should stop seeking for other people to recognize your intelligence. It is childish.

>> No.16625149

>>16623220
I know for a fact you're not above 110 if you are a tripfag

>> No.16625164

>>16623975
Who is Ramanujan

>> No.16625246

Hey man, if you're serious start thinking about the things you could eliminate in your life. Completely changing paths is a too unrealistic approach. 'Potential' can be fulfilled in many ways, but all require taking whatever you are doing more serious. If you eliminate the baroque crap from your life that inevitably surrounds some of the things you are working on, new and better approaches to the same problem will present themselves. Give it a think, if you are actually that smart, you are most likely supressing a lot of mental processes in order to be able to more or less enjoy what you are doing right now.

>> No.16625262

>>16625148
Valid point, at least based on my own experience. I assume you are drawing from a similar pool of knowledge.

>> No.16625269

>>16622176
Breed, you big brain mid wit.

>> No.16625271

Also: Mensa, typically high IQ losers in birckenstocks. (NNT)

>> No.16625280

>>16625269
Lol, the american antihero raises his hand.

>> No.16625334

>>16625280
>be rare specimen, gift to mankind, looking for a legacy and archivment
>hur dur reproduction is so lame
Another example how above 130IQs are disgenic and sterile.

>> No.16625335

Try to play the power game of the upper class. Generational wealth and names on buildings. Collect art and found a museum on your deathbed to immortalize your name. Find a beautiful energetic wife, ad nauseam. Read a lot of biographies, make friends with unusual ambitions. Bluff your way into uncommon situations. Learn to have the most fun possible. Buy a simple yacht and a Newport birth. There are so many satisfactions in life, only the decadent and the truly rich stoics can really know the satisfaction of climbing in the curtains of a palazzo or raising a child in a world that is entirely your own. There is still space in this world.

>> No.16625353

>>16625335
>raising a child in a world that is entirely your own
Best way to get dysfunctional and resentful children

>> No.16625355

>>16625334
I enjoy your antihero cool, at an earlier crossroads I figured a friendship with some extremely sterile erudite is less fun that mating with an encyclopedia.

>> No.16625376

>>16625353
Not if you read them Mallarme during years 5-8 of childhood.

>> No.16625393

>>16625148
>you create this thread merely to brag: you want to exhibit your achievement to the world.
Based and truepilled until this part. I made this thread earnestly for the purposes stated. I only mentioned the actual number because it was relevant.

>>16625246
true

>>16625269
true

>>16625335
perhaps so

>> No.16625428

>>16625393
>Based and truepilled until this part. I made this thread earnestly for the purposes stated.
Most of a person's motivations are completely invisible to them. Just pick something and do it. If you're truly that smart, you won't have any trouble.

>> No.16625445

>>16622133
lol at went through a pol phase years ago, now just ignores politics (still racist though)

>> No.16625460

if you still think having a high IQ equates to being intelligent, this thread should have sealed the deal for everyone that this is clearly not the case

>> No.16625610

>>16622133
wow it's le me! im not really that much of a boomer zoomer either, and im not really a poloomer anymore, but i am still a cool racist convonoomer. i believe in traditionalismoomer, but sometimes i still cave in and be coomer. also im in my 20s

>> No.16625635

>>16622133
what IQ test did you take and what setting?

>> No.16625843

>>16622176
Out of interest, what are your hobbies?

>> No.16626049

>>16625843
Powerlifting, chess, cooking, reading, video games, rock climbing, in that order

>> No.16626075
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16626075

>got a 136 FSIQ on the WAIS-IV at 19
>old SAT scores were a 1120 the first time and 1210 the second time

what the fuck is wrong with me?

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>>16626075
You got fucked by school.
You could have a learning disability, you could be inattentive.
Identifying the issue could be easier if you elucidate how your education experience was.
My SAT was 1330.
Pic related are my WAIS-IV results.
I have ADHD.

>> No.16628021

>>16622222
Talk about wasted digits

>> No.16628103

>>16627992
Not him but do you have any advice for dealing with ADHD
I'm a freshman in college and I want to shoot myself in the head, the work is incredibly easy to me (when I manage to force myself into my seat to complete it) but I can't focus on the problems for more than a few minutes and I fear I am going to have a repeat experience of high school

>> No.16628125 [DELETED] 

>>16628103
Get stimulants. Adderall XR does wonders for me.
You're university should have accommodations, speak with your professors.

>> No.16628141

>>16628103
Get stimulants. Adderall XR does wonders for me.
Your university should have accommodations, speak with your professors.

>> No.16628234

>>16628141
>Get stimulants. Adderall XR does wonders for me.
I will look into it. Hopefully a diagnosis isn't too expensive in my area

>> No.16628238 [DELETED] 

>>16622133
how the fuck do you not have stuff you want to do? I am the opposite of you, i have tons and tons of thing that i find interesting and would pursue had it not been for the fact that i found out my IQ is 96. Finding out you have an high IQ is like getting the ticket to achievement, its knowing that whatever you decide to do you will automatically become really good at it, really fast and reach higher then most people.

>> No.16628245

>>16622222
>Deciding on a path is fundamentally arbitrary because there are no axioms by which to decide what is "worth doing"
Yes there is. There is the things you personally enjoy or want to do.

>> No.16628285

>>16625335
There is vitality in this one

>> No.16628348

>>16622222
No way you’re 146 and don’t have intellectual curiosity. Post proof of score or fake and gay

>> No.16628467

>>16625335
hi satan

>> No.16629904

>>16628348
It's possible.
They aren't totally related, it just would be uncommon.

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>>16622133
YOU MUST DO THE THING THAT NO ONE IS WILLING TO DO BUT WILL BENEFIT EVERYONE

>> No.16630540

>>16622351
>>16623181
You people are fucking clueless
I was tested as 148, then 142, by two separate psychs as a kid, then scored >130 not too long ago since I did the mensa test as well. Also asked a psych who confirmed that IQ did not change meaningfully with age.
Yet I'm a dumb faggot who dropped out of college twice and am currently a NEET spending most of my time watching anime, reading about esotericism and jacking off
A high IQ means nothing and you are fucking retarded if you think anyone who scores in the top percentile is "destined" to do impressive things

>> No.16631845

>>16630540
I don't believe you and you sound like another "dumb but to lazy" coping faggot
Now off yourself

>> No.16631956

>>16622133
>le IQ meme
if you are that smart learn how to trade and excape wagecucking hell.
Anyway pic related is literally me except for binge drinking/eating.

>> No.16632604

>>16631845
>I don't believe you
Good thing I have nothing to prove to you, midwit.

>> No.16632866

>>16628348
Dumb fuck

>> No.16632941

>>16622133
>>16622141
fpbp

>> No.16632949

>>16630540
>Also asked a psych who confirmed that IQ did not change meaningfully with age.
how can they say things like this when heritability is a thing?

I scored > 99.99th percentile when I was 9. At 21 I got another one and got a 108.

>> No.16633007

>>16632949
I don't know enough about the various existing tests/models to answer this. The ones I took were the WISC (as a kid) and WAIS (as an adult) and even though the exact numbers have changed, the amount of standard deviations above the norm have remained the same.
Perhaps the tests you took used different scoring methods.

>> No.16633031

Lots of insecure dick sizing in this thread

>> No.16633449

>>16623181>>16630540
why and how are you this retarded

>> No.16633478

>>16622133
has anyone in mensa ever accomplished anything?
again serious q

>> No.16633650

>>16633478
Yes.
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>> No.16633946

>>16626049
Get rid of video games and you're golden

>> No.16634018
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>>16622133
I'm at your level as well, same deal, proctered and all.
Who gives a fuck about your potential? Set a goal for yourself and just chase that instead. IQ is not the sole factor of one's potential and trying to measure it yourself is a waste of time.

>> No.16634032

>>16622141
my sides

>> No.16634043

>>16622176
you're 146iq and talks and thinks like this? like a teen? the debate is over, guys, iq is fake