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I am so sick of the internet.

>otherwise normal people sucked into extreme social media tribes
>elderly (probably lonely) people spamming links, attacks, gossip all day every day about [political figure / ideology]
>ten thousand different Youtube channels using manipulative video editing techniques (cuts, background music, fake enthusiasm, clickbait) to earn a following to earn ad money and donations from their paypigs
>the very idea of a "following" people compete to grow and retain
>4chan incels wasting their lives but feeling they are communicating with likeminded people / socialising
>Twitch / Youtube live streams (the worst of all) where tens of thousands of teenagers spam emoticons, gifs, donations and buzzwords in the chat in the hope the streamer will see it
>the whole self-branding culture promoted by Twitter, Instagram, Telegram, WhatsApp, maybe even Facebook
>doxxing and cancelling people

It's no coincidence that:

>mental health epidemic among young people
>young people reporting to be lonelier than ever
>young men having less sex than ever
>depleted attention spans
>Millennials staying at home more than ever (rise of the so-called Homebody Economy)
>culture in general feels dead and hollowed out

Anybody else know this feel?

Are there any books on this issue?

One I intend to read is Transparent Society (by author of Burnout Society). Also Alone Together was okay.

>> No.16621343

>>16621339
Same. I just can’t quit it

>> No.16621345

>>16621339
Yeah it is basically a disaster but it's entertaining.

>> No.16621353

>>16621339
I mean the alternative is worse. Talk irl w ppl who have no interest in any subject i talk about online or if there is interest there's no engagement

>> No.16621370

>>16621339
Tldr? I have an adult's brain so i can't read green text.

>> No.16621389

>>16621353
you're taking a personal case and ignoring the when, it isn't even a problem in early internet or some alternative that allows you to interact with people from across the world which would be far superior than options today. forums and irc are still far above. that's miles away from the hellhole of today and it didn't need to happen.

>> No.16621393

>>16621370
greentext is literally tldr as a medium why are you asking for it then you retard

>> No.16621396

>>16621389
>ignoring the
ignoring the whole*

>> No.16621399

>>16621370
>monolinglet can't understand different grammatical moods like subjunctive
Here's an example of the truncated mood in english: Long live the King.

>> No.16621402

>>16621370
No. You have a cumbrain with burned out dopamine receptors. That's why you cant focus on something that's already dumbed down. You've ejaculared your intellect and your potential. You're never going to make it now.

>> No.16621403

>>16621389
Yeah well breadth not depth is a liberal's best weapon

>> No.16621440

>>16621339
I've tried to avoid this since I started to mature and be introspective. But with quarantine ramping up again, and online classes basically forcing me in my room all day... I've felt fried in a way I haven't since I was 15/16. Its starting to rope me in again

>> No.16621477

I always get much more out of reading, but the internet has basically engineered itself into being the ultimate form of passive entertainment and it's incredibly easy to spend hours doing basically nothing. Really need to find a way out of this.

As to book recs, I'm also curious. A few weeks ago some anon mentioned a book he read on how social media has shaped politics in the public conscious via riots and so on, and I'd like to read it if anyone knows what it may be.

>> No.16621489

>>16621339
I'm writing my thesis on this currently.

For Han I'd also suggest In the Swarm.

Jenny Odell- How to Do Nothing (covers a lot, but some parts are relevant)

Jaron Lanier- 10 arguments for deleting your social media accounts right now (maybe skip some of the political rants, but he makes good points about the tech stuff)

James Williams- Stand Out of Our Light (again annoying writing but occasionally good insight)

Matt Taibbi- 10 rules of hate (find it online)

>> No.16621524

>>16621489
Good recommendations, thank you.

>> No.16621526

>>16621370
retard

>> No.16621537

>>16621339
It's a cancer that you cannot cut out.

Hyper-socialization will wipe us out long before any grand cosmological event, fabricated plague, or the second coming of Christ. I fully expect human intellect to devolve to such a level that basic knowledge on even the most simplest of subjects will be increasingly barren within the post-modern continuum, just as it does now. Bourgeois living has utterly ruined this world, and most likely the next. Materialism, even here as I type now, pervades through every facet of human will like a poison. No man, woman, or child will ever conceive the notion to uphold basic morality as we swirl ever closer to the rim; the stokes will never return.

Everyone condemns the foul maladies derived from degenerative behavior, yet they cannot see that their actions now enable their next of kin. If modernity is truly a mice experiment, I hope to God I am killed before I see the final results.

>> No.16621541

>>16621339
I am sick of the modern world is general. Everything you do is known to everyone.Everyone's opinions are uniform and carefully fed to them by propaganda outlets. There is no room for mystery, everything has already been discovered and commodities, people 's unique idiosyncrasies have been stamped out by societal dogma. There is just no romance left in the world

>> No.16621561

>>16621339
>otherwise normal people
You have no idea how few "normal people" there really are. Go outside sometime. Normality is an instagram/facebook pretense

>> No.16621605
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16621605

>What good does it do me, after all, if an ever-watchful authority keeps an eye out to ensure that my pleasures will be tranquil and races ahead of me to ward off all danger, sparing me the need even to think about such things, if that authority, even as it removes the smallest thorns from my path, is also absolute master of my liberty and my life; if it monopolizes vitality and existence to such a degree that when it languishes, everything around it must also languish; when it sleeps, everything must also sleep; and when it dies, everything must also perish?
>Society will develop a new kind of servitude which covers the surface of society with a network of complicated rules, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate. It does not tyrannise but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.
The American revolution and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>16621561
The majority of people are, by definition, normal. The ones who insist everyone is a special and unique snowflake regardless of obvious social structures are a particularly annoying and self righteous subset of normal.

>> No.16621621

>>16621339
you're delusional. humans managed to have gossips before even the telephone was invented. humans gonna human

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16621624

>>16621339
>Are there any books on this issue?

I'm writing it. But my internet addiction slows my work down.

>> No.16621634

>>16621621
Gossip is an invented capitalist word to invent free time to push us to a service economy

>> No.16621706

>>16621634
Retarded. It's like these people think the world came into existence when marx was born or something.
>>16621339
Then stop using it like a junky you dumb fuck face, grow the fuck up and learn to control yourself. Read the greeks. Seriously you sound like a fucking bitch.

>> No.16621880

>>16621339
‘I hate the internet’ by Jarret Kobek maybe but it might have some liberal moralising

>> No.16621883

the shallows by nicholas carr is a good read; essentially goes over some popular neuroscience concerning the internet’s adhd like effects. also watch wall-e

>> No.16621982

>>16621339
the social dilemma is a good documentary about this exact problem.
ironic that its on netflix lol