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>Thou shalt have no other gods before me
What did he mean by this?
Is he implying there are other gods besides him?
If so why did he create them?

>> No.16620916

What did he mean by this?
He’s the god you respect first
Is he implying there are other gods besides him?
Yes
If so why did he create them?
He didn’t

>> No.16620959

>>16620916
According to the Bible, he created the universe out of nothing.
Where do these other gods come from then?

>> No.16620974

>>16620906
The official Yahwehist position is that all of the other gods were fictional characters invented by humans. The exact reason why Yahweh chose to hide away for thousands of years, leaving humans with ample time to invent other gods is left as an exercise for the attentive reader.

>> No.16620987

>>16620974
What is the Elohist position?

>> No.16621015

>>16620906
Look how big his wife's dick is.

>> No.16621020

>>16620987
I used the wrong term, I meant to say Yahwist as in, a practitioner of Yahwism. Unless you were making an obscure joke, in which case, well done. Obscure literary jokes are always welcome on /lit/.

>> No.16621024

>>16620906
the other "gods" are demons. question=answered

>> No.16621026

>>16620959
The Bible is an ethnic mythology that is an amalgamation of Egyptian, Zoroastrian, Semitic, and Canaanite tradition. The Bible readily acknowledges other gods, such as Baal and Tamuz. When I was raised in the church, these were viewed as demons. But if you read the actual mythologies, they’re saviors of rival tribal groups.
The OT is an ethnocentric Bronze Age mythology, and should be read as such.

>> No.16621027

Mormonism's Book of Abraham has an intriguing claim. Namely that humans have salways existed as primordial intelligences and that God, as the greatest intelligence, gave us sentience and bodies. I surmise then, that other gods could comprise human fabrication or 'demonic' intelligences more powerful than us, but less than God.

Also, I think its important to remember that Genesis is polemic. The Arkadia thought that God fought a serpent, whereas Israelites were like nah, God didnt need to fight (implying possibility of defeat) God willed and therfore there was.

>> No.16621041

>>16621020
I wish I could claim to have been clever with a joke. I was entirously sincere though as the Old Testament has atleast 4 strands of thought. Yawheist, Elohist, Deutoronist, and Levitical.

>> No.16621044
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16621044

>>16620906
Stop worshiping semitic desert demons!

STOP

>> No.16621064

>>16621041
Indeed. The documentary hypothesis is one of the fascinating literary discoveries of all time, in my opinion.

>> No.16621082

>>16621064
I'd agree. Im a novice in my knowledge of it, but it is intriguing.

>> No.16621125

Might be a good thread to ask, which translation of the bible should I read? I grew up with the kjv but all I currently own is a gideon american standard version

>> No.16621136

>>16621125
ESV

>> No.16621142

>>16621044
Well who should I worship?

>> No.16621145

>>16621142
How many times have you jerked off this week? You likely worship yourself already

>> No.16621166

>>16620906
>>16620974
>>16620959
Have you guys actually read the bible, or do you just like to extrapolate indivigual quotes? throughout all the earlier books, specific gods like Dagon are mentioned, but they have absolutely no angency, and if anything it is portrayed as if they are just idols. Dagon does not do anything "other gods" dont do anything.

>> No.16621566

>>16621142
The gods of your ancestors

>> No.16621571

>>16621566
So animism then? Ive always hated how the stinky polythiestics took over our peoples minds and souls.

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16621576

>>16621571
>So animism then
Sure

>> No.16621660

>>16620906
wtf God made man in his image but I'm nowhere near as hung as YHWH

>> No.16621758

>>16620906
He's laying out there that there is a tip of the hierarchy. A limit on being.

>> No.16621888

>>16621758
Why did he create other gods then?

>> No.16622197

why are you pretending to be stupid

>> No.16622199

>>16621125
Robert Alter

>> No.16622218

What it means is that Yahweh was a Canaanite wargod, and that in great times of stress, the Yahwists rose to prominence and demanded the rejection of fertility deities like Baal

>> No.16622223

>>16621064
>one of the fascinating literary discoveries
Isn't it disregarded nowadays though?

>> No.16622511

>>16622223
No

>> No.16622539

You're wasting your time asking anything. There's no consistency in the Semitic cults. Whether they identify as Catholics, Jewish or Muslims. All worship a Marvel-like humanoid being that is supposedly powerful but not very smart and repeatedly makes mistakes that humans have to fix through their own ungodly ideologies.
Basically their own beliefs debunk the whole idea that God created everything.

>> No.16622573

>>16622539
God is Pure Actuality, not a humanoid, you utter mong.

>> No.16622595

>>16622573
YHVH is not God you mong

>> No.16622681

>>16622573
Define pure lol