/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16605160]

what are the most /lit/ cities in The States?

[Anonymous No.16605169]

Oxford, MS.

[Anonymous No.16605175]

>>16605160
>city cultures
It's not any century prior to the 20th anymore

[Anonymous No.16605253]

>>16605160
>/lit/ cities
>The States

Bold of you to assume Americans can read their own language

[Anonymous No.16605281]

>>16605253
Trying to figure out the meaning of this post.

[Anonymous No.16605284]

>>16605253
Based

[Anonymous No.16605300]

>cities
>/lit/
Only rural America is /lit/.

[Anonymous No.16605311]

>>16605160
Probably some college towns.

[Anonymous No.16605495]

>>16605160
Iowa City, Iowa

[Anonymous No.16605519]

>>16605300
This is true desu. People generalize all rural Americans as dumb rednecks, but the most intelligent, educated, and sophisticated people will be found in rural areas. City "people" just read YA books and stuff like "How To Be An Anti Racist".

[Anonymous No.16605542]

>>16605160
Savannah, Ga.

[Anonymous No.16605553]

Coeur d'Alene, Idaho

[Anonymous No.16605559]

Depends what you mean, /lit/ in essence or /lit/ as in most likely to see readers. Anytime I see someone reading in NYC it's usually some pop shit or YA garbo but obviously with any anecdote take it with a grain of salt. The further gentrification of it kind of sterilizes the "/lit/"ness of it. Not that directly being a shithole makes somewhere /lit/. USA just isn't a literary place in general and the fact NYC is the most /lit/ just shows the sad state of that

[Anonymous No.16605674]

>>16605160
When’s the NYC meetup?

[Anonymous No.16605680]

>>16605160
Frisco! San Francisco! Sanfran! The town in the west! The little city that could! The pearl of the Pacific! Frisco! Saint Francis! 415! SF! Baghdad by the Bay ! Fog city! Golden Gate City! The City! Gay Mecca! The City by the Bay! San Fran! The City of Brotherly Love! Bay City! SFC! The Golden City! The Paris of the West! Based Town! The City that Knows How! Frisco! San Francisco! San Francisco! San Francisco!

[Anonymous No.16605687]

>>16605674
You’re not invited.

[Anonymous No.16605699]

>>16605680
Based anon! I love Frisco! Is a great /lit/city! San Francisco 4 lyfe nigguhz!

[Anonymous No.16605703]

Not Philly that's for sure

[Anonymous No.16605717]

>>16605680
I've had the most /lit/ convos with bums while taking shits under bridges there.

[Anonymous No.16605718]

>>16605160
Montreal

[Anonymous No.16605720]

>>16605717
Don't shit in the streets that's nasty! Keep Frisco cleeno!

[Anonymous No.16605722]

>>16605718
>Montreal
>The States
Uhhh anon

[Anonymous No.16605729]

>>16605722
America has zero literary cities. Even campus towns are anti-intellectual cesspools of retardation.

[Anonymous No.16605736]

>>16605729
The world since ww1 hasn't

[Anonymous No.16605741]

>>16605729
Vente a México, parce

[Anonymous No.16605751]

>>16605680
That some of these were plausible boasts even 15 yrs ago depresses me now, anon.
t. native
>Frisco!
geez

[Anonymous No.16605760]

>>16605169
Cute place. Square Books still living?

[Anonymous No.16605785]

>>16605751
I moved here some weeks ago and I ab-sol-u-tely love it! I love everything even the good ol'fog! Haha I reckon it is not for everyone, but it's a great city! Way better that my boring native town! People are so open minded! And the fog is great! I love Frisco it's the great American town!!

[Anonymous No.16605787]

Based Frisco! Poster

[Anonymous No.16605791]

Oak Park, Illinois

[Anonymous No.16605792]

>>16605553
>Idaho
Isn't it filled with twitter libs and other undesirable pests ? Maybe the more rural towns are okay. Nice landscapes though.

[Anonymous No.16605797]

>>16605785
good god shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.16605827]

>>16605797
Lol chill out, buddy. We're talking about great American cities and I just happened to mention the greatest of them all! Frisco!

[Anonymous No.16605864]

>>16605160
As you can tell, we have a bit of a problem with our rural population literally seething all day. Although American cities are generally far behind European ones, the best often have secret enclaves that are exceptionally /lit/. You would have to know the appropriate natives to find these places though.

I humbly submit Denver as my suggestion. It's clean, feels like an isolated outpost, has interesting locations, and is close to the mountains. The long drives to and from Denver to anywhere else are contemplative and in the winter you can ski and write in a lodge somewhere quiet.

[Anonymous No.16605929]

Phoenix

[Anonymous No.16605936]

muh /lit/ personality
woah you drink coffee with sugar? that isn't /lit/™ bro

[Anonymous No.16605945]

Any /lit/ things to do in Boston?

[Anonymous No.16605952]

>>16605864
Liberal places are the worst because they're Hillary Clinton style readers. Act elitist and read a prolific amount of garbage

[Anonymous No.16605975]

>>16605945
Visit Harvard's libraries.

[Anonymous No.16606230]

>>16605792
I don't know. I thought I read somewhere that Idaho has more right wing white nationalist/neo Nazi types than any other state. Sounds really based if true.

[Anonymous No.16606241]

>>16605760
Dunno, but my mom would.

[Anonymous No.16606255]

>>16605160
cambridge, ma

[Anonymous No.16606307]

I think the question is flawed as we have advanced past the point of cities providing unique breeding grounds of culture. This isn’t 1920s Paris or 1960s New York. Those days are over. The closest thing you have in the US are the hipster towns of Austin, Portland, and Seattle, but even they have all succumbed to the commodification of youth culture in their own rights. Maybe before the internet wave in the 90s those were the closest things to interesting and fledging communities of oddballs. I wish that it was the 1700s and we were all in London coffee shops shit talking Voltaire, but we aren’t. We are on the Internet. /lit/ is the most /lit/ city now. Give me a more striking group of intellectuals focused on culture and literature than this very website. We are the ruffians in coffee shops extracting each other’s thoughts and building on it. We are the 60s beatnik coffee shops. We are the Parisian coffee shops who brawled and fell in love. Look at coffee shops today, all huge chains of starbucks for miles around. The rare mom and pop coffee shop is full of college students studying on their laptops deeply engaged in productivity culture and reading 101 textbooks meant for people who lack a brain that works.

Give me somewhere else online that is more intense and engaging in literature than /lit/ and you will have your answer of the digital Atlantis you seek.

[Anonymous No.16606309]

>>16605952
>Hillary Clinton style readers
>Hillary's favourite book is Brothers Karamazov
Sounds pretty based to me

[Anonymous No.16606311]

>>16605160
NOT seattle

[Anonymous No.16606314]

>>16606230
You read it on /pol/ and no its not true

[Anonymous No.16606447]

New Orleans, Savannah, and Charleston for being the only major cities with an authentic culture beyond the typical homogenized Americana bullshit.

[Anonymous No.16606477]

>>16606447
>All Southern

Why is the south the only place with authentic culture here bros?

[Anonymous No.16606487]

>>16606447
>implying Savannah isn't just an inferior Charleston

[Anonymous No.16606499]

>>16605160
Cambridge, MA

[Anonymous No.16606509]

>>16605680
SF and the entire Bay Area are /g/ territory.

[Anonymous No.16606534]

>>16606307
There are communities on stack exchange and groups like the rationalists here and there who are as well-educated and well-read as /lit/, if not more so, but a bit stuffy and old-fashioned at the same time. There is definitely a kind of energy here other circles really don't have.

[Anonymous No.16606539]

>>16605680
> I JUST LOVE THE HUSTLE AND BUSTLE OF THE BIG CITY!

[Anonymous No.16606580]

>>16605791
maybe if you are into Polish literature

[Anonymous No.16606630]

>>16606477
Most of the south is absolute burgerpunk, soulless Wal Mart towns all over the place.

[Anonymous No.16606655]

>>16606630
American suburbia basically anywhere. Maybe like slightly smarter in the east and west coast is all they have going for them

[Anonymous No.16606674]

>>16606447
is new orleans still a good city?

[Anonymous No.16606684]

>>16605300
>>16605519
>t. Urbanites who wish they lived in Faulkner's long-since-dead south
As somebody who's lived in rural Georgia for years, you're vastly overestimating hicks.
Go to a grocery store or a Walmart in a small rural town. It is unbearably depressing. Everyone you see will be shuffling around looking like they're minutes from death, the only question being whether it's from old age, morbid obesity, or meth.

[Anonymous No.16606691]

>>16605952
At least respond to my post in a way that makes sense. Denver isn't terribly blue and cities in general usually have conservative enclaves as well. Your inability to see any kind of nuance in populations you are unfamiliar with tells me you are minimally traveled.

[Anonymous No.16606706]

>>16606477
Because you've never been there to spoil your imagined version of it where gentlemen still drink mint juleps on their plantations

[Anonymous No.16606719]

>>16606684
That is not what I was talking about, anon. I know all about the absolute state of the south. I am also the anon who wrote >>16606630
But in some rural parts of the upper midwest there are some highly sophisticated people, far better than the soulless bugmen of NYC or the obese trash of the south. Not everyone who lives in a rural area is a fat redneck idiot.

[Anonymous No.16606727]

>>16606314
How do you know? Which state is it then?

[Anonymous No.16606823]

>>16606719
I've never been to the midwest, so maybe the secret literate elite really are all hiding out there, but the overwhelming majority of rural southerners are in fact fat redneck idiots. The only reason that the obesity rate in my county isn't hovering around 90% is drug abuse. I know, I spent my summers cooking their food.
I wish the rural US was /lit/, I really do, but it's just not. We watch the same netflix and scroll through the same social media as urbanites, we just care even less about wearing presentable clothing and spend even more time sitting in cars.

[Anonymous No.16606846]

>>16606823
Yeah that's accurate. People are definitely nicer though, and more laid-back, though certainly less educated.

[Anonymous No.16606861]

>>16606846
I'll agree with that. Most people are very kind, or at least polite. That's just not a characteristic I'd consider when calling something /lit/.

[Anonymous No.16606903]

>>16606823
>>16606846
This is mostly accurate. I found the overgrown nature of the south to be beautiful at times and people smiled more easily, though I could never speak to their true sincerity. I think that disillusioned intellectual Southerners are simply lonely and isolated feeling and that drains their ability to apprecitate their environment and seek out the good in it. I sympathize with that but the truth is you can be lonely anywhere.

t. NYC Bugman

[Anonymous No.16606928]

>>16605929
I live there and you're fucking wrong.

[Anonymous No.16606946]

>>16605929
Finally a patrician answer. Phoenix is the true literary city: the gorgeous beige stucco cube architecture on every corner, the spirited and meth-fueled flâneurs fighting each other on the lightrail at dusk, the serene calm of tempe town lake as the morbidly obese mexican families amble along it's picturesque shores.

[Anonymous No.16606953]

>>16605160
Ithaca, NY - Nabokov, Pynchon, Bloom, Farina, Morrison, DFW. The setting of Farinas novel Been Down So Long..., Ithaca is where Ulysses returns. Highest number of book stores per capita (though the best one closed down last winter).

[Anonymous No.16606966]

>>16606953
Oh shit, Ithaca is actually one of the more beautiful areas in upstate New York. Especially now that we are in fall.

[Anonymous No.16606972]

>>16606674
no it's very lonely and all there really is to do is drink or make cliched montage art. everybody there will tell you about how trapped they feel. you're better off in some developing city in the SW. it's getting gentrified, too.

[Anonymous No.16606983]

>>16606972
Blessed Corona is BTFO of gentrification in many cities, anon. Are the people of New Orleans just ignoring the virus?

[Anonymous No.16607020]

>>16605160
if you'd asked this last year, i'd have strongly argued for the twin cities in MN, but after everyone chimped out over george floyd, the idiots burned down uncle hugo's and a native american library, so i'd have to say that we're no longer in contention.

[Anonymous No.16607034]

>>16606983
they were before I left. I spent roughly half a year down there and I'm going to be honest with you, it's a depressing place full of whiny fags, overcompensation and fat tourists. not that I didn't have fun, and that it didn't put some stuff into perspective, but there is nothing there for you if you're searching for some magical literary splitter. a good place for a self imposed exile, a bad place to live a life.

[Anonymous No.16607047]

>>16607034
Interesting. I would never contemplate leaving my own metropolis for NO, but I have only ever heard good things from my fat normie friends. So I guess I've heard both sides now without ever going.

[Anonymous No.16607083]

>>16607047
I should add that for like 6 months they left bodies to decompose on the roof of a partially collapsed hotel building even after the families sued the city. they literally only care about making money, and despite the efforts of the veux care committee the city will continue to gentrify. a lot of predatory behavior in the city, and they can and will find out if you're local, and fleece you seven ways to Sunday over the dumbest shit. the schizos in the streets are the best company I knew. it's very fun to visit though. I don't know, I just think about it and can't think of anything but the "I don't hate the south" diatribe blaring in my head at full volume.

[Anonymous No.16607136]

>>16606966
>Oh shit
Why do you talk like this? Why can't you talk like a real person with a soul instead of like a social media drone?

[Anonymous No.16607152]

Grew up in Austin, great book stores and libraries, too bad it's been overrun with homeless

[Anonymous No.16607156]

>>16607136
It was sincere surprise, I haven't been to Ithaca in years and the flood of memory overtook me so suddenly I felt the need to curse, venting a little feeling.

Why do you think you know me? Or better, why do you think calling people social media drones becauss you find their language disagreeable makes you so unique?

[Anonymous No.16607196]

>>16605792
Pretty sure Idaho isn't full of anyone

[Anonymous No.16607207]

>>16605680
Never mention that necropolis on the website again.

[Anonymous No.16607248]

>>16605160

It's not Boston or New York of course, but Minneapolis/St. Paul is a pretty good b-tier /lit/ town/metro. Several university and specialist libraries (which I sadly cannot get into now), several newspapers, several specialist independent bookstores, several Half Price Books, and even several Barnes and Nobles if you feel like slumming. Much of the "Theory" that this board likes to post about was published at the local university press.

Consoomer activities I have done:

-Careful study of the Rhind Papyrus per old volumes at my alma mater's library
-Browsed Soviet journals and Ramanujan's notebooks at U's math library
-Got an anthology containing the original short story for The Thing at an old, venerated Sci-Fi/Mystery book store which has now been reduced to rubble because it was proximal to niggertown
-Got Anti-Oedipus at the main Uni bookstore, among various science volumes
-Got some Crowley at the occult bookstore
-Got some Debord and Marx at the commie bookstore
-Got the (((corrected))) version of Mein Kampf paying cash at a local BN

Usually when I go to an HPB I do a quick walk of math/science/space, lit crit, philosophy, art and occasionally music/classics. Usually, but not always, ignoring fiction. There is always at least one thing worth having. Got Habermas' TCA (V1) once, even the cashier was hip: "A little light Habermas, okay, that'll be $20bux please."

[Anonymous No.16607255]

>>16605169
>>16605542
>>16606477
Wanna know how I know you faggots have AT BEST vacationed here with your folks? Because you fail to recognize the abundance of niggers down here. I hate the South and can’t wait to gtfo. Don’t get me started on the fucking spics. You think these half breed read?

[Anonymous No.16607262]

>>16607255
based

[Anonymous No.16607279]

>>16607152
do you still live there? i live in dallas currently (previously denton) and am thinking of moving there on the east side, near cherrywood. if i dont care about the homeless rate, is it a pretty good city for someone without a college degree? im thinking of renting a room and testing it out for a bit first. i am really just looking for something that is walkable and not suicide-inducing urban sprawl like dallas.

[Anonymous No.16607281]

>>16605519
The “traditional” American urbanite was well read and educated, it’s just general decay on a mass techno scale now, knowledge and class has become forbidden.

[Anonymous No.16607282]

Adding to the above MPLS/STP post: you can regularly see people reading. I saw a boy in the store with his family the other day and he had his head in some genre fiction. You can routinely drive past private residences and see large libraries inside the windows. I think especially of a middle-class house that I commute past regularly. The second floor is dominated by a large, squarish picture window of a study. A computer battle station is in the center of the room, and the walls are floor to ceiling books.

[Anonymous No.16607333]

how is Kansas City?

[Anonymous No.16607766]

>>16607136
can you talk like someone who isn't a cunt

[Anonymous No.16608078]

>>16605160
NYC is ironically a /lit/ city because it's become so pointlessly expensive. you're basically living in tomorrow's dystopia today

[Anonymous No.16608079]

>>16605300
the majority of the world's population lives in cities, why would rural writing have any relevance to their lives?

[Anonymous No.16608417]

>>16608079

>The majority of the world's population have sub-120 IQs, why would the writings of 120+ IQ persons have any relevance to their lives?
>That's a false comparision, don't do that!!!

[Anonymous No.16608424]

>>16608078

Don't worry. The current crisis will gut the office space irrevocably, as it teaches Capital that presence is unnecessary and further fragmentation of work through time-space is both acceptable and desirable. This will inevitably kneecap New York's "culture", as even its most ardent lovers regret to report. Even the NYSE room traders have really only been actors, for years.

[Anonymous No.16609191]

>>16605160
The point of cities is to meet exceptional people, but there is nothing exceptional about someone who moves to a city because they think that's what makes them exceptional. To my mind, literary beauty is produced in proportion to there being natural beauty. Cities these days are nothing more than festering boils of humanity ready to burst with disgust and hatred; anyone with aspirations for literature must reside in the country or somewhere that is safely restricted in the number of people who are allowed residence.

[Anonymous No.16609652]

Providence, Rhode Island

[Anonymous No.16609686]

>>16608079
Dumb, urbanite, scum.

[Anonymous No.16609695]

>>16605253
Please kill yourself
>>16605160
Boston, MA or Maine

[Anonymous No.16609708]

>>16607136
You're the vapid drone. Red blooded humans swear and curse.

[Anonymous No.16609748]

>>16608417
> rural populations are getting ripped to shreds by suicide, drug addiction, poor healthcare in general, and a lack of attention from city-based policies
> farming industry has been all but killed by disgusting levels of government regulation, which has in turn created greed-driven monsters of farming companies
>not the least of which is the encroachment of big tech to inflate the price of their equipment with useless capabilities
> useless capabilities that frequently short out, and coincidentally take the rest of the functionality with it, requiring expensive repair from the certified dealer 150 miles away
> lol rural people are so stooped but I'll eat the food they make for me
Rural populations would probably be a lot better off if they didn't have to feed people like you

[Anonymous No.16609766]

>>16608417
Whoops misread your comparison, my apology

[Anonymous No.16609818]

>>16609748
>> rural populations are getting ripped to shreds by suicide, drug addiction, poor healthcare in general, and a lack of attention from city-based policies
/lit/
>> farming industry has been all but killed by disgusting levels of government regulation, which has in turn created greed-driven monsters of farming companies
Farming is as good as ever. Just get an FSA loan and you have $600k and 40 years to payback and extreme bankruptcy protection for your land and all assets. Small farmers say they're struggling for gibs. Meanwhile they're sitting on $1 million dollars worth of equipment most of the time.
>>not the least of which is the encroachment of big tech to inflate the price of their equipment with useless capabilities
>> useless capabilities that frequently short out, and coincidentally take the rest of the functionality with it, requiring expensive repair from the certified dealer 150 miles away
>> lol rural people are so stooped but I'll eat the food they make for me
You're stupid.

[Anonymous No.16609822]

San Francisco is unironically pretty nice in some ways, it is a shame that it is filled with tourists and techies. Although some amount of techies are not bad, I found that when I lived in the Bay Area the boomer programmers and scientists were some of the most interesting people around. It also is a pretty beautiful city on the whole.

[Anonymous No.16609887]

>>16605300
NAFTA killed rural America outside of rich towns on the coasts, which of course have the same woke yuppies you hate the cities for.

[Anonymous No.16609894]

>>16606509
Not really, /g/ hates startups and SV. /g/ would be the part of Boston where the FSF is.

[Anonymous No.16609907]

>>16605519
This is some wish fulfillment bullshit. The smartest people will be working in universities and will be escaping economically depressed shitholes.

[Anonymous No.16609909]

>>16607196
>>16606230
No, Idaho is being colonized by shitlibs trying to avoid taxes. Native Idahoans are generally gun loving farmers who hate them but can't don anything to stop it.
You're probably thinking of Montana or North Dakota, where right wing people move to because they're isolated and have cheap homestead land.

[Anonymous No.16609917]

>>16606307
*strokes dick* mmm yeah I'm so good

[Anonymous No.16609925]

>>16606953
>>16606966
Shame about all the retarded Cornell students who ruin Ithaca

[Anonymous No.16609934]

>>16606823
Very accurate. Rural people though do love to romanticize their lifestyle, thinking they have ANY connection to the past, rough lifestyles, neglecting to recognize how they just sit in an F-150 next to McDonald's wrappers for hours a day. A truck which never hauls anything but a boat trailer or fifth wheel because there's not much real work to do.

If anything rural America is the more fantasy driven side of America. Liberals may have gone mad with racial equality bs but rural America actually thinks it's not just a disgusting pile of shit

[Anonymous No.16609959]

>>16609748
Oh yeah, average people on the coasts certainly don't suffer from financial concentration like rural folk do. No, we're all here sitting fine in dandy, we sure don't fucking hate our rent hiking up with no wage increases and huge student loans to get rejected at jobs for no experience.

Rural and Urban America would both be better off if we realized we're both suffering from the same economic and financial concentration that's strangling the country, instead of pretending sitting in a tractor or working at a computer is substantially different.

[Anonymous No.16609980]

>>16606307
>/lit/ is the most /lit/ city now.
Based.

[Anonymous No.16609990]

>tfw no innawoods literature groups that have clandestine meetings

[Anonymous No.16610004]

>>16606487
These days Savannah is a superior Charleston. Charleston had Savannah beat for a long time, but today is mostly a residential/commercial developer-centric consoomer city. Savannah, especially the core of the City, still has soul, and there are the town has a multitude of different opinions and a nice book shop/tea room.

Meanwhile Charleston is busy trying to find ways to build new 'hip' live/work space and taking down its statues of Calhoun (America's most notable political philosopher since the Revolution). No thanks.

[Anonymous No.16610017]

>>16609748
The decline of the countryside (and the decline of America) can be laid squarely at the feet of the Supreme Court's rulings in Baker v Carr and Reynolds v Simms. One-man-one-vote has been a disaster for the countryside.

[Anonymous No.16610028]

>>16606309
She browses /lit/ and is a psued.

[Anonymous No.16610030]

>>16606307
>/lit/ is the most /lit/ city now
yes
>Give me a more striking group of intellectuals focused on culture and literature than this very website. We are the ruffians in coffee shops extracting each other’s thoughts and building on it. We are the 60s beatnik coffee shops. We are the Parisian coffee shops who brawled and fell in love
kys brapper

[Anonymous No.16610040]

>>16605785
Fog dissipates come winter, m8, though it pretty much remains early Spring

[Anonymous No.16610095]

Dunno nigger I live in a small aus town.

[Anonymous No.16610232]

Local scenes and proper subcultures no longer exist. The internet has created a monoculture. Every city is the same kind of progressive liberal place, except some might pretend to be quirky/weird/artsy. The new Paris, London, and NYC are Theorytwitter, /lit/, and that one forum people here use that I forget the name of. People who dissent from liberal norms have no place to meet in real life because they are too geographically distributed, so they have to meet on the internet.

[Anonymous No.16610638]

>>16606255
>>16606499
Yep, it's Cambridge. No contest. Lots of very nice /lit/ neighborhoods in the states but Harvard Square stands head and shoulders above all.

[Anonymous No.16610662]

>>16610638
Bloom retroactively refuted this. He said post 1990s, the quality of /lit/ students nosedived save 2-4 students who were actually well-read. I can only imagine how it is now with zoomers.

[Anonymous No.16610722]

>>16610017
the decline of the countryside is because of corporatization of agriculture

[Anonymous No.16610751]

>>16610662
You are right. This is true of pretty much every college campus. But the population, and feel of the city, is still /lit/ even if it's nothing like it once was.

Bloom, God bless him, is just mad that he had to live in the open-air dumpster known as New Haven

[Anonymous No.16610760]

>>16610722
The two (increased corporatization, and increased political influence of populous metropolitan/urban areas) are not unrelated.

[Anonymous No.16610884]

>>16610017
And how would marginally greater per-capita voting power have saved them from automization and corporatism, exactly? Would the wise country folk possess the foresight to halt all global technological process decades ago and somehow vote that into effect?

[Anonymous No.16610887]

>>16605175
Don't remind me

[Anonymous No.16610911]

>>16610638
>Cambridge
>not just an overly glorified hellhole filled with chunks, gooks, and trust fund retards whose only basis for admittance into Harvard was their wealth
Topkek Cambridge is dogshit

[Anonymous No.16610920]

>>16610884
>And how would marginally greater per-capita voting power have saved them from automization and corporatism, exactly
It wouldn't have 'saved' the countryside from automation, and there's nothing inherently wrong with automation. Tractors are automation, as are mills.

But local control and having a say in the structure of laws that regulate commerce and corporations, not to mention state land policies, certainly could have helped prevent the consolidation and corporatization of agriculture.

Regardless, per-capita voting power isn't the important thing here, geographical representation is.

[Anonymous No.16610948]

>>16610911
Other than maybe Princeton, idk where else really measures up. Georgetown?

[Anonymous No.16611321]

>>16609907
>The smartest people will be working in universities
This is false. Professors at universities tend to be relatively high tier midwits. Truly exceptionally intelligent people tend not to do well in academia. This is well documented and it's not even surprising.

[Anonymous No.16611361]

>>16611321
more on this
https://youtu.be/byb3ffrBYgU

[Anonymous No.16611625]

>>16605729
>mfw planning to live in a Seminary campus town for grad school
feels good to be a /theology/ chad

[Anonymous No.16611643]

>>16605929
Phoenix is the only good city in the US.
Arizona shall inherit the four corners, and the Valley of the Sun shall sprawl across the desert.

[Anonymous No.16611653]

>>16606307
>/lit/ is the most /lit/ city
>omphaloskepsis intensifies

[Anonymous No.16611668]

>>16610911
The trust fund retards are still smarter than you, and much more fun to do coke with.

[Anonymous No.16611728]

>>16611668
Cope

[Anonymous No.16611778]

New Orleans is definitely one of our most "Unique" cities idk if you can say it's /lit/ though

[Anonymous No.16611921]

>>16611778
>idk if you can say it's /lit/ though
It's not.

[Anonymous No.16611931]

>>16611778
A Confederacy of Dunces is the only good thing to come from New Orleans.

[Anonymous No.16611960]

>>16609907
Yikes

[Anonymous No.16612549]

>>16609907
> The smartest people will be in the universities

[Anonymous No.16612589]

>>16611653
kek

[Anonymous No.16612668]

>>16609907
>The smartest people will be working in universities
Oh man, oh boy. I'm really sorry for you find out here anon, but getting a job at a university won't make you any smarter.

[Anonymous No.16613190]

>>16605542
Good answer. Charleston too. Beautiful historic cities great for historic literature. The whole coast is romantic really as long as you avoid the tourist spots.

[Anonymous No.16613263]

>>16609822
San Francisco would be pretty nice if a small house didn't cost a million dollars

[Anonymous No.16613272]

>>16609907
>the smartest people will be working in universities

[Anonymous No.16613286]

New York City. any other answer is and has been cope for the past 200 years.

[Anonymous No.16613303]

>>16611361
>links to another insane schizo channel
Really enjoying what you've done to my algorithm today, mid-west poster.

[Anonymous No.16613310]

>>16613286
(((you)))

[Anonymous No.16613311]

Chicago
All others are 2nd rate

[Anonymous No.16613317]

>>16613310
cope

[Anonymous No.16613321]

>>16613286
I regret doing my undergrad at NYU. Bunch of adderall addicted idiots who would stay up all night binge drinking. The only truly /lit/ people I met there were a few classics students at Columbia or Euros doing their grad studies there.

[Anonymous No.16613324]

>>16605160
Seattle is statistically speaking the most literate city in the country

[Anonymous No.16613327]

>>16613317
(((Jew York)))

[Anonymous No.16613334]

>>16605929
Lol no

[Anonymous No.16613337]

>>16613263
Try 10 million lol

[Anonymous No.16613340]

>>16613324
CHOP eliminated seattle from contention

[Anonymous No.16613347]

>>16613321
undergrads everywhere are worthless

[Anonymous No.16613357]

>>16613340
I disagree

[Anonymous No.16613384]

>>16613286
>NYC
I live here and thats not true unless you are either at the lofty peaks of NY society or the very bottom. And currently the peak is all staying home with their parents, so it's just us grimy poorfags living our best lives for the time being. Not so bad though, most of the places I care about in the city are doing fine.

[Anonymous No.16613420]

>>16611361
What other channel did I share? And why do you think that Edward Dutton is schizo?

[Anonymous No.16613424]

>>16613420
whoops. meant for >>16613303

[Anonymous No.16613437]

>>16605160
>Rome
>London
>Paris

[Anonymous No.16613441]

>>16613384
>either at the lofty peaks of NY society or the very bottom.
That has always been the case and what has always made the city America's literary capital.

[Anonymous No.16613445]

>>16613420
>calls himself a doctor
>no obvious credentials
>recent video linking ivf to the fall of western civilization
>others imply you are smarter for not going to school
It just looks like comfort food for idiots.

[Anonymous No.16613465]

>>16613445
He has a Ph D you cuck. Now what other channel did I share that you think is schizo?

[Anonymous No.16613619]

>>16609907
>hello?
>midwit police?
>yeah, got another one

[Anonymous No.16613625]

>>16613465
>Edward Croft Dutton (born 1980) is an English anthropologist. Dutton has a degree in Theology from Durham University and a PhD in Religious Studies from the University of Aberdeen.[1]
>phd in theology
>calls himself an anthropologist
I guess that's why the credentials weren't obvious.

[Anonymous No.16613632]

>>16607333
Better off in Lawrence, but you'll outgrow it.

[Anonymous No.16613668]

>>16605680
Section A of the evidence to why liberal politics destroys cities. Enjoy reading while homeless people shit out heroin needles in front of you.

[Anonymous No.16613761]

>>16613625
>if he doesn't have a degree he's wrong
You are the definition of midwit.

[Anonymous No.16613773]

>>16613761
I don't have a degree in engineering and I don't call myself an engineer. Anyway his career appears to be a long series of disgraces, including a plaigarism scandal, appearing on white power talk radio, and writing essays about the biological basis of "joos bad". Not someone I'm inclined to respect, frankly.

[Anonymous No.16613804]

>>16613773
>appearing on white power talk radio, and writing essays about the biological basis of "joos bad".
Explain why this is bad. Explain how he is factually wrong.
You can't because he is right.

[Anonymous No.16613818]

>>16613773
If you studied engineering in your free time and were just as capable as those with a degree you would be. You don't have to go to university to learn, especially in the 21st century.
Universities (for the most part) have turned into degree factories.
Everyone of middling intelligence I went to school with got a degree. It isn't an elite certificate anymore, and hasn't been for a long time.
Saying someone's wrong simply because they don't have a degree is an appeal to authority.

[Anonymous No.16613830]

>>16613773
>plaigarism scandal
It says that Edward Dutton was not aware of this and that Lynn was responsible for it.
And this anon is correct. >>16613818

[Anonymous No.16613834]

>>16613804
>ignoring the plaigarism
I'll mark that down as a win then.

The rest is bad because he is clearly a disgraced academic who sold out to the first availible group that wanted someone with a Dr. in front of their name to add to their own credibility, never mind that the phd was for religious studies. You don't care about that of course, because you are a neo-nazi who hides behind a couple of cute cat pictures.

[Anonymous No.16613843]

>>16613834
>I'll mark that down as a win then.
Yep, you're not just a midwit, but an arrogant midwit.

Charles Darwin dropped out of med school and got a B.A. in the arts. Should we throw his work out the window?

[Anonymous No.16613847]

>>16613834
>I'll mark that down as a win then.
Not so fast, cunt. see >>16613830

[Anonymous No.16613885]

Reminder for you fruitcakes who still think universities are bastions of intellectualism, truth, and knowledge.

[Anonymous No.16613941]

>>16613834
>you are a neo-nazi who hides behind a couple of cute cat pictures.
Explain what is wrong with being a neo nazi. Explain what is wrong with cute cat pictures.
When pressed, people like you, the liberals, the neocons, the leftists, and the Marxists have no argument.

[Anonymous No.16613977]

>>16613804
>>16613818
>>16613830
>>16613843
>>16613847
>equivocating darwin with your e-celeb goon
>claiming I am certain group
>getting your one friend from discord and same posting to give the illusion of numbers
>not giving an argument for me to even refute
I'm not really worried about you calling me a midwit, the scale of this response is a terrible indictment of how you live unemployed and in your parents homes.

[Anonymous No.16614009]

>>16613977
>>not giving an argument for me to even refute
>refute
>you're wrong and I'm right because (appeal to authority)
This was your attempt at a refutation. You're a big dumb gay, bud.
The definition of "goes along with the program unquestioningly"
>degree = right
>no degree = wrong

[Anonymous No.16614026]

>>16613977
Why do you think white nationalism is bad? Do you also think black nationalism, Jewish nationalism, and so on, are bad? Or do you just hate Nazis because you were told they are the evil bad guys

[Anonymous No.16614040]

>>16606307
I think you have a good point in that the next wave of writers (regardless of their talent) will have grown from the soil of sites like 4chan, and those digital experiences will be very much a part of their identity as writers

[Anonymous No.16614069]

>>16614040
The awful writers will be fom reddit.
The ok or pretty good writers will be from 4chan.
The truly great writer will be me desu

[Anonymous No.16614199]

I'm part of an underground writing collective called "the Cocker Spaniel" formed of part time dog walkers from New York City.

[Anonymous No.16615785]

>>16614026
I think all of those are bad. Ethnic/religious/racial identity politics in general is a retarded way of organizing people in 2020, society should focus on organizing people based on their trade, class, or their discipline, not on their race.

[Anonymous No.16616083]

>>16615785
why

[Anonymous No.16616101]

>>16613818
>If you studied engineering in your free time and were just as capable as those with a degree you would be.
This is true but the cost of design tools and access to journals makes doing it on your own prohibitive.

[Anonymous No.16616768]

>>16615785
Then why has racial diversity clearly been an absolute disaster in the USA?

[Anonymous No.16616821]

>>16615785
Latter sounds just as superficial as the former. People should organize however they want if its by race so be it. Actually respect blacks for this desu

[Anonymous No.16616827]

>ctrl+f
>dc
>0 results

Fucking plebs.

[Anonymous No.16617014]

>>16605717
Why were you talking to defecating bums?

[Anonymous No.16617071]

>>16615785
I'm inclined to agree with you for the most part, but racial division is actually fostered by Jewish nepotism, they hire in group, they marry in group, they promote in group. Look at Hollywood, look at how well Jews have done for themselves in the States, all because of in group loyalty. I agree with you in principle, but it's high time jewish privilege been checked

[Anonymous No.16617081]

>>16605495
This is the only correct option.
Rural Iowa w/ things to do. But a strong college town. Great writers workshop. Theres literally quotes from books in the sidewalks around town. Nothing tops IC Iowa

[Anonymous No.16617113]

>>16617071
The problem is Jew worship is so strongly embedded in the American psyche that all they have to do is call you an antisemite and it's over, you lose.

[Anonymous No.16617502]

>>16617113

[Anonymous No.16617513]

>>16605175
this

[Anonymous No.16617548]

>>16606447
>New Orleans
Yes
>Charleston
Lol no, it's basically bland white people activities: the city
>Savannah
Never been there so I can't say

[Anonymous No.16617556]

>>16617548
The whole south should be glassed. Solve the negro problem and the low IQ obese white problem at the same time

[Anonymous No.16617576]

>>16617556
Obesity isn't solely a Southern issue.

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html

[Anonymous No.16617583]

>>16617576
Imagine how great this country could have been and compare to how it actually turned out.

[Anonymous No.16617595]

everyone saying New Orleans is a midwestern tourtist who never spent a day outside the quarter or garden district. New Orleans has not been /lit/ for a century, why do you think Toole killed himself.

[Anonymous No.16617742]

>>16605519
So I fell for this meme last year and spent a year out in the rural wasteland of America and the only thing that kept me from killing myself in a sea of apathetic subhumans and astonishingly bad wages was that stimulus check I got earlier this year. It afforded me enough money to move back to a city.

[Anonymous No.16617750]

>>16617742
Why did you start a sentence with "So"?

[Anonymous No.16617793]

>>16617583
I was wondering why it went back down from 2015 to 2020 and then noticed that they literally just had to slide the entire scale up
Fucking christ

[Anonymous No.16618195]

[Anonymous No.16618258]

>>16605160
Generally anything in New England is good. Especially the university towns.

[Anonymous No.16618272]

>>16618195
David Lynch is from there.

[Anonymous No.16618528]

>>16618195
Maclean was very based. A beautiful prose stylist, great teacher, and very good outdoorsman.

[Anonymous No.16618626]

Any cool sites to visit in Cambridge?

[Anonymous No.16618638]

>>16605160
washington dc

[Anonymous No.16620240]

>>16609748

I wrote the post you replied to and you seem to have misunderstood my rhetoric. My primary point was that people with minority or exceptional characteristics can obviously write books of interest and use for people who don't have direct knowledge of the characteristic, whether it's the minority status of living in a rural area, or of being very intelligent. This post >>16608079 was really stupid, and that's what I was mocking with a more obviously useful example. Intelligence and living in the sticks are two distinct things of course, but the stupidest people of all are the lumpenproletariat who live in the cities, as everyone knows.

In other words where intelligence is concerned, cities are like the male sex itself as a cohort: more stupids, but also more geniuses. The countryside is more like women, more middling. Very few geniuses who stay, but also very few African immigrants and the like to pull the curve leftward, to abuse terminology a bit. The (for now) higher concentration of whites helps to pull things rightward a bit, but still in that middling territory.

[Anonymous No.16620265]

>>16605160
Miami, Florida

[Anonymous No.16620266]

>>16620240
I live in a very rural area and I am an elite tier genius.

[Anonymous No.16620662]

>>16620266

Good, good for you. What are your accomplishments? What are your favorite things about living in the sticks, apart from comfy cats sitting on branches?

[Anonymous No.16620683]

>>16620240
The smartest person in the world is a cattle rancher in Montana. His name is Christopher Langan.

[Anonymous No.16620691]

>>16620265
Cubans alone ruin any chance of Miami being ever considered a /lit/ city

[Anonymous No.16620747]

>>16620683

I was slightly intimating the intelligence of rural people over (the large stupid horde) in cities, but it's still true that the smart set tend to end up in cities, one way or another. I wanted to qualify my remarks that the two characteristics are "orthogonal". Also humans evolved to live in tribes of several dozen to a few hundred individuals, and closer to nature natch, and it is in this specific sense that a rural author's praise of the countryside can clearly speak to the human condition for an urban reader. People in the city tire of it, and "take some nature" on their vacations. This is why the above poster's thought >>16608079 was manifestly stupid, notwithstanding America-centered observations in the thread like this one >>16609934.

Adam Smith made a (now-dated) observation to the effect that the rural peasant was smarter than the urban factory laborer, because the peasant had to account for far more factors (weather, procurement of resources, etc) than the old factory laborer who worked at the same station or two every day. This isn't true any longer but it's an interesting historical notion which goes to the comparison of country and town which has run throughout this thread.