/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16506246]

I'm writing a work on the crisis of the modern world according to Guenon, Evola and Kaczynski. Any ideas?

[Anonymous No.16506253]

Yeah stop reading retarded authors. Analyze using Marxism.

[Anonymous No.16506261]

>>16506246
You are writing a work before having any ideas? Holy based.....

[Anonymous No.16506297]

>>16506261
I have ideas, I just want to hear /lit/'s perspective on the issue.

[Anonymous No.16506307]

>>16506253
Analyze what? The crisis of the modern world using a demagogue that spawned as a direct consequence of the industrial society?

[Anonymous No.16506327]

>>16506307
>Muh industry
Please I beg you, read Marx. Kaczynski got hyper alienated and instead of wanting to progress towards socialism to stop this alienation he wanted to revert to a pre-commodity world.

[Anonymous No.16506359]

>>16506246
>Evola

[Anonymous No.16506406]

>>16506327
What is this ,,progress'' towards socialism. What is the progress in a communist utopia?

[Anonymous No.16506446]

>>16506406
-Post scarcity society, with work being something you love and want, rather than need but hate.
-End of division of labor and alienation from work & production of commodities.
-End of class division and the need for a state.
And all that follows,

[Anonymous No.16506450]

>>16506359
>Posts the frog
>Thinks he has any right to give his opinion on anything after that

[Anonymous No.16506463]

>>16506246
Maybe you should start with Guenon's crisis of the modern world, but you should read introduction to the study of hindu doctrines before that as well as all of plato and aristotle and you should learn calculus at least.

[Anonymous No.16506469]

>>16506446
HAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Are you really believing this load of crap my friend?
Listen, I love the idea of communism, I appreciate all you guys' intentions, I am left wing on many issues, including most economic issues. But really
>-Post scarcity society, with work being something you love and want, rather than need but hate.
Primitivism covers this
>-End of division of labor and alienation from work & production of commodities.
This is good
>End of class division and the need for a state.
This is entirely bullshit. The human brain requires a society with different classes, hence the need for a state as well. Humans will always seek to emulate someone they perceive as better and having more success and more resources than they do.

[Anonymous No.16506475]

>>16506446
Lol

[Anonymous No.16506478]

>>16506463
Done, done and done

[Anonymous No.16506492]

>>16506446
How did you type this stupid bullshit out without wanting to kill yourself

[Anonymous No.16506497]

>>16506469
>Humans will always seek to emulate someone they perceive as better and having more success and more resources than they do.
That's not what classes are, all end of class division means is that the MOP are held in common rather than privately. Class is not hierarchy, it's relation to the means of production.

I also have good faith questions about primitivism.
>How will this revolution happen
>How will people just forget their lives of industrial society and pass on ideas like technological innovation, science, math, etc. onto their children.
>How will you undo the effects of industrial society on the ecosystem and land ie; cities, farms
>How will you just undo the innovations that have come since primitive society

[Anonymous No.16506526]

>>16506478
then start writing faggot, if you read the greek canon alone you're already more well read than 99% of /lit/
Read the upanishads, bhagavad and ashtavakra gitas, maybe learn sanskrit

[Anonymous No.16506544]

>>16506475
Just stop working then, perfectly acheivable decision.

[Anonymous No.16506552]

>I've read three authors, two of which are footnotes in history and one of which is a terrorist
>therefore I will write a 1000 page long schizo diatribe aping these terrible authors

Immensely cringe. Read more

[Anonymous No.16506560]

>>16506469
>Post scarcity
Impossibility unless you reduce consumption

[Anonymous No.16506568]

>>16506552
How are guenon and evola terrible? And evola was certainly no "footnote"

[Anonymous No.16506574]

>>16506246
All idealists without proper materialist analysis, you can't understand what's going on without a firm grasp without understanding capitalism and it's flaws. Marx is a must read.

>>16506307
>demagogue
Lol you either haven't read marx or only the commie manifesto. Marx is actually really insightful. Atleast familiarize yourself with his theory of alienation by reading this short chapter. I promise it's worth your time:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm

[Anonymous No.16506587]

theres more than enough analysis on WHY the world is fucked, nobody cares anymore when it comes to a diagnosis of why the modern world sucks. come up with some solutions

[Anonymous No.16506593]

>>16506568
>And evola was certainly no "footnote"
He absolutely fucking was, no one but nazi retards and cretins who believe in magic take him seriously. Get off the internet for once in your life.

[Anonymous No.16506594]

>>16506526
Already read the bhagavadgita and the ashtavakra samhita, moving on to Mahabharata

[Anonymous No.16506608]

>>16506552
I have actually read a pretty good amount of authors, my friend
>>16506593
He wasn't a footnote. Get off 4chan for a few minutes.
>>16506497
Same goes on for communism

[Anonymous No.16506614]

>>16506593
T. Never read evola

[Anonymous No.16506704]

>>16506608
he unironically was a footnote, guenon even more so. guenon was a larper with horrendous metaphysics, while evola wasn't even the most notable author of the original fascist movement. on top of that, he was a weirdo who believed in magic and wrote cringe manifestos about nothing. hilarious how you telling me to get off 4chan is in response to the cringe fashwave trad nonsense that people like you propagate on here.

[Anonymous No.16506717]

>>16506614
You can't find out if he was a footnote or not by reading him you fucking spastic.

[Anonymous No.16506731]

>>16506717
these morons are the same people who obsessed over camus in 2012 because he was 'based', stirner in 2015 because he was 'based'. land in 2018 because they want to 'accelerate' and guenon/evola in 2020 because 'modern world blah blah blah'. shtit is so lame

[Anonymous No.16506745]

>>16506704
>guenon was a larper
>leave france and travel to a traditional society to raise a wife and kids and further work on your writings
>a larper
>his metaphysics were horrible
How?
>while evola wasn't even the most notable author of the original fascist movement
Maybe it has something to do with the fact he wasn't a fascist, and was one of mussolini's most staunch critics?
>a weirdo who believed in magic and wrote cringe manifestos about nothing
His books are probably among the best for learning buddhism though
>hilarious how you telling me to get off 4chan is in response to the cringe fashwave trad nonsense
You have literally no idea what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.16506754]

>>16506717
>nazi retards are obsessed with someone who was critical of nazism
T. Retard

[Anonymous No.16506768]

>>16506717
>he admits that he never read him
Then what do your opinions about him matter?

[Anonymous No.16506804]

>>16506246
Aah yes, Ebola. Such a profound guy.

[Anonymous No.16506817]

>>16506704
I am telling you to get the fuck off 4chan because you really need to do it. Your brain is starting to rot. Go out and see if anyone actually propagates or talks about these three guys

[Anonymous No.16506819]

>>16506754
They quite literally are, where's the contradiction you simpleton?

[Anonymous No.16506840]

>>16506768
I admitted to no such thing, you are literally incapable of basic logic.

[Anonymous No.16506842]

>>16506819
Internet nazis don't read.

[Anonymous No.16506849]

>>16506840
you implied it when you said you don't have to read someone to understand that they were just a "footnote in history"

[Anonymous No.16506953]

>>16506246
I think you would be better off writing a positive book instead of a negative book. What I mean, is that instead of writing about what you think is wrong with the world, write about how you think the world should be.

[Anonymous No.16506967]

>>16506953
Based.

[Anonymous No.16506973]

>>16506953
You're absolutely right. But I'm doing a study based on these people

[Anonymous No.16506982]

>it's another anon got filtered by Evola episode

[Anonymous No.16506983]

>>16506817
dummy im on your side

[Anonymous No.16507036]

>>16506819
>nazi retards
>are obssessed with someone who was critical of nazism
>critical

[Anonymous No.16507041]

>>16507036
Go on /pol/ they all love him, do you understand what a contradiction is?

[Anonymous No.16507059]

>>16507041
/pol/ doesn't read, and they don't talk about him. i go on/pol/ every day.
Le ebin internet nazis live rent free inside your head.

You never read evola and your only criticism of him is that that his work is expounded by people you don't like who ironically also never read him.

[Anonymous No.16507089]

>>16507041
You're telling me that all of /pol/ loves Evola but when I went there, no threads about Evola can be seen even ctrl+f'ed "Evola" in a couple of threads and no results showed up. Are you lying to me anon? :^I

[Anonymous No.16507098]

>>16507059
The argument is about his status in culture you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.16507105]

>>16506246
Go outside

[Anonymous No.16507111]

>>16507098
>my pop phi youtube channels don't talk about him so he's not influential
just fuck off

[Anonymous No.16507122]

>>16507098
no, you were saying that he is popular among le internet nazis

[Anonymous No.16507124]

>>16507111
Who has he influenced then?

I have read him and haven't at all indicated my politics, can you actually argue a point?

[Anonymous No.16507134]

>>16507122
It began with his being designated a footnote and I indicated that he was only paid atention to by cranks. I used the word Nazi and that triggered you.

[Anonymous No.16507140]

>>16507124

[Anonymous No.16507150]

>>16507140
literally who

[Anonymous No.16507154]

>>16507150

[Anonymous No.16507167]

>>16507041
>>16507089
Also, I had a hard time believing you when you >>16506593 said that nazi retards take someone, who have some issues with nazism, seriously. Anyway, I spent the past few minutes jumping between /pol/ threads and not one, NOT ONE mention of Evola can be found you deceitful liar >:^I

[Anonymous No.16507178]

>>16507154
Now we're getting somewhere, anyway I'm tired of this argument. Take it as a concession if you wish.

[Anonymous No.16507188]

>>16507178
ok have a nice day sir

[Anonymous No.16507191]

>>16507188
You too.