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Biological female here. No, I will not post tits. I started getting into philosophy and /lit/ last year, but I don't know exactly what I should be reading. I've read Meditations, The Stranger, Republic, The Prince, Brave New World, 1984, and On Anarchism by Chomsky.

I'm culturally right and want to further my general understanding of politics and philosophy. The books I plan to finish in October include State and Revolution, The Ego and His Own, Siege, and Grapes of Wrath.
I love Stoicism, but my woman brain and emotions make it difficult sometimes. Please recommend books relating to politics, philosophy, or traditional womanhood.

>> No.16480219

>biological female here
You will never be a woman

>> No.16480222

stop pretending loser

>> No.16480223

>>16480212
Tits or gtfo

>> No.16480229

>>16480212
Tits or gtfo, you know the rules.

>> No.16480231

>>16480212
post feet

>> No.16480238

>>16480229
:(

>> No.16480249

>>16480212
Why do you feel the need to include that you are a woman in your post?

>> No.16480251

>>16480212
Pick a single direction and explore. you're asking too wide of a question. If you like Camus, continue with Camus, personally I liked The Plague. if you like the Greeks, read more of those kooky faggots.

Tits or GTFO

>> No.16480256

? You need only one, my friend. Need only one. Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace. Of course, the problem with the novel is that not only does it change lives but of course embedded in the text itself is a scathing critique of the very idea of having your life changed by a book. It puts the reader in a bit of a double bind, which of course double binds is one of the central themes of the novel. As the reader goes back and forth between submitting to being changed and cackling at the very idea of being changed, the reader's mind begins to mimic a tennis game. This, of course, was Wallace's intention, and it's reflected in forcing the reader to go "back and forth" between the main text and the endnotes (not footnotes) which serve as the embodiment of the "dissenting voice" within ourselves, the voice of doubt. Is there a way to resolve the dilemma? James O. Incandenza didn't think so. That's why the films he made were "anti-confluential," didn't resolve, and why the Jest itself is Infinite.

>> No.16480259

>>16480231
post tits and feet, hnnng

>> No.16480261

>trad fem
>reading
ok, get back in the kitchen larper

>> No.16480264

>>16480212
>but my woman brain and emotions
you think men don't have emotions?
the same process they go to become a stoic husk will work on you

>> No.16480270

>>16480212
You didn't even trip dummy

>> No.16480274

nice bait

>> No.16480283

>>16480212
Ok. All I'm going to say is that if you are religious that my best advice is to marry a man who is as religious as you. Your family, wealth, and beauty should be of secondary importance to him in his choice of you.

>> No.16480289

>>16480256
I do have a borrowed copy of Infinite Jest. Since it is so long, should it be my primary focus of reading for a month or so? Or are there other supplements that would work with it

>> No.16480290

>>16480212
Anarchism and Other Essays by Emma Goldman
Against Interpretation and Other Essays by Susan Sontag
Mutual Aid a Factor in Evolution by Kropotkin (pairs well with 'The Origin of Virtue's by Matt Ridley)
Manufacturing Consent (if you liked chomsky)
Zero's + 0nes by Sadie Plant
Against Equality by various queers
&
Capitalist Realism by Suicide Fuel

>> No.16480296

>>16480283
I am not religious, but I am not particularly concerned with with wealth or status as long he can provide me with a home and kids.

>> No.16480297

>>16480290
I've read all of those but the ones written by jews

>> No.16480303

>>16480290
I have heard some good things about Manufacturing Consent, so I will check that one out. I'm not a leftist, but I enjoy reading their works to understand their perspective and to be able to debate their stances.

>> No.16480306

The Second Sex by Simone De Beauvoir. It's feminism but not retarded (i.e. second-wave).

>> No.16480311

>>16480289
As Wallace said, it is a book that is MEANT to be read more than once. He said this in conversation with Michael Silverblatt on his show "Bookworm" in 1996. I think you'll find that a second reading will be a very enriching experience. As Silverblatt said, reading Infinite Jest over and over is like "getting to know someone well." Indeed, the text is deeper and rewards scrutiny better than any book ever written. There's a reason Wallace never finished The Pale King. With Infinite Jest, he dismantled the novel. It was finished. We didn't have to write novels anymore. And indeed, we don't have to read any others. The Pale King, of course, isn't a novel but a parody of posthumous novels.

>> No.16480320

>>16480264
I find myself much better at regulating my emotions and responses while I'm not on my period or birth control, but I suppose that's still up to me to work on and become better at.

>> No.16480340

>>16480249
This

>> No.16480347

>>16480297
So so all but Sontag, Goldman, or Chomsky?

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16480350

please stop with the trad memes, you're being sold a lie
you're going to become a slave to your husband
decades and decades of time just spent doing the same repetitive tasks over and over again, no days off.
get out while you can

>> No.16480351

>>16480212
dilate

>> No.16480358

>>16480212
You picked some good books to LARP as a female. The Prince was a risky one, but you always need an outlier to make it believable.

>> No.16480366

>>16480320
>birth control
You already ruined your trad larp.

>> No.16480380

>>16480212
excuse me sir this is a walmart

>> No.16480382
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16480382

Hello Tahlia.

>> No.16480386

>>16480212
>The Ego and His Own
Isn't that degenerate shit for hedonists?

Keep reading the Stoics.

>> No.16480390

>>16480350
Yeah, I'm concerned only that she'll end up with some bread winning thicko atheist that can't play chess and unironically believes in race theory and is anti-religion. Hopefully she's not afraid to put rat poison in his coffee if he starts beating her.

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>>16480212
this is some advanced fucking bait. i almost bought it but alas the stirnerite gf remains but a myth

>>16480386
ego and its own is skepticism xtreem
dont buy the meme that stirners egoism is namebrand egoism, its more philosphically suble

>> No.16480402

>>16480350
>decades and decades of time just spent doing the same repetitive task
while her husband commutes 2 hours a day so he can sit in an office and... spend decades and decades of time just spent doing the same repetitive task

>> No.16480412

>>16480402
Life sucks huh

>> No.16480415

>>16480401
Explain the phrase world to me. What is a creative nothing? Where would I find a a true principal of education? Why do I only have courage to be destructive?

>> No.16480429

>>16480402
this

Both parties make sacrifices and won't enjoy 100% of the tasks they're doing. I tried out the degen sex positive feminist consumer lifestyle, and it brought nothing to my life except temporary pleasures.

>> No.16480431

>>16480350
Where does one find happiness in your opinion?
By constant stimulation of the senses? Partying hard and sleeping with many different people? By working a corporate job?

>> No.16480440

>>16480212
>Biological female here
hmmm sure ok
>I started getting into philosophy and /lit/
ok yeah ok
>I'm culturally right and want to further my general understanding of politics and philosophy.
ok yeah go on
>I love Stoicism, but my woman brain and emotions make it difficult sometimes.
bam, there it is. This is not a thing a woman would say, you've outed yourself, tranny or larper or whatever you are

>> No.16480442

>>16480431
Forming a genuine connection with another human or dedicating yourself to something meaningful outside of these lifestyle memes and boxes.

>> No.16480448

>>16480440
>bam, there it is. This is not a thing a woman would say
There are self hating women. It's definitely bait though

>> No.16480451

>>16480401
>almost bought it
tits or gtfo is a powerful tool

>> No.16480457

>>16480415
how much of the ego book did you read
world is whatevers present at hand. creative nothing is ~essentially~ subjectivity as such; the notion that a concept, or the notion of a "thing" -- and especially "you" -- is never exhaustive
havent read principles of education so i cant elaborate on the rest

>> No.16480458

>>16480429
you're a man lol stop ffs
Nobody has to make sacrifices, practically speaking. Society would be a million times happier if everyone was either a based retard peasant, an autistic tradesman, or a neet rent-seeking nobleman.

>> No.16480461

>>16480429
The best deal for women is unironically in traditional Islam.

>> No.16480463

>>16480212
>I love Stoicism, but my woman brain and emotions make it difficult sometimes
KEK

>> No.16480465

>>16480442
Something like... A good marriage with a good man and raising a good family with good values?

>> No.16480469

>>16480461
Only without the polygamy. Women hate sharing their husband.

>> No.16480470

>>16480212
Check out "Mammaries: Display or Abscond" by Ligma Knutz.

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>>16480212
will you please post tits?

>> No.16480477

>>16480465
Yes, but you won't find this with trad larpers. A good husband probably doesn't even know what "trad" means

>> No.16480482

I really identify with traditional female roles but I'm just a gay twink. I am very timid, quiet, submissive, caring, open and emotional. Not a woman though. As far as literature goes, I tend to prefer the Russian writers because their philosophical novels are both intellectually dense and emotionally complex. Stoicism is mostly okay, but to be honest I'd rather read Tolstoy's A Calendar of Wisdom.

>> No.16480486

>>16480477
Simulcrum could never measure up to the real deal. If only the trad incels actually went outside and got their christian gf.

>> No.16480487

>>16480212
Incel will never understand women enough to make credible baits.

>> No.16480490

>>16480469
The polygamy issue can be resolved with a prenuptial agreement.

>> No.16480492

Post reads like what a femoid would say jsut to get right wing chad's thundercock

>> No.16480499
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>>16480212
>Biological female here. No, I will not post tits. I started getting into philosophy and /lit/ last year, but I don't know exactly what I should be reading. I've read Meditations, The Stranger, Republic, The Prince, Brave New World, 1984, and On Anarchism by Chomsky.
>I'm culturally right and want to further my general understanding of politics and philosophy. The books I plan to finish in October include State and Revolution, The Ego and His Own, Siege, and Grapes of Wrath.
>I love Stoicism, but my woman brain and emotions make it difficult sometimes. Please recommend books relating to politics, philosophy, or traditional womanhood.

>> No.16480500

>>16480482
Find yourself a big butch tomboy and marry her for interesting sex and you can both be yourselves.

>> No.16480503

>>16480482
Thanks, I'll check some stuff like that out

>> No.16480504 [DELETED] 

>>16480477
What?
TradCath is not as obscure as you think.

>> No.16480506

>>16480457
All of it.
In false Principles of education he's just laying out the line that knowledge (education) is a form of power, and promoting the idea that education should be designed around giving people the skills they need to educate themselves on any subject instead of drilling an memorization of facts.

>> No.16480509

>>16480482
>I'm just a gay twink
>I really identify with traditional female
please never go on hormones. whoever end up being the one to ravish your bp will be one lucky dude, but pelase no hormones

>> No.16480511

>>16480451
how do i stop being so polite
i could never tits or gtfo someone it feels a little rude
i dont think id appreciate it if i were a woman

>> No.16480543

>>16480212
why submit yourself to the rule of people that hate you?

>> No.16480569

>>16480212
Read works from the French and Italian renaissance.

>> No.16480572

>>16480212
>Grapes of Wrath
Leftist book about poor people. Dont know why you'd reinforce your right-ness with this.
>>16480350
^^^^^^^ if you're not a pol larper.

>> No.16480580

>>16480511
balls or gtfo then faggot

>> No.16480595

>>16480572
I liked Of Mice and Men, and I started reading this in a book club before covid came, and I'm coming back to resume it. I'm not against reading works that have opposing view points as mine.

>> No.16480602

>trad woman
>posting on the internet
pick one

>> No.16480606

>>16480595
Nor should you be it's basically the second most important thing there is to understand the arguments of your opponents. I've spent plenty of time in study of postmodernism myself.

>> No.16480614

>>16480477
You sound bitter and projecting anon

>> No.16480628
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>>16480602
All we know for sure is that she ain't Amish.

>> No.16480629

>>16480212
stfu u 16 yo brainwashed faggot

>> No.16480636
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16480636

LISTEN HERE BABY GIRL
YOURE GONNA GET A LOT OF HURTFUL AND MEAN COMMENTS
BUT YOU BEAUTIFUL. YA HEAR ME??
>mfw thinking of u crying

>> No.16480638

>>16480629
So vituperative

>> No.16480649

>>16480636
lol, it's okay. I was already aware of what was going to be said. I just want book recommendations.

>> No.16480650

>>16480628
shes ruining the soft soles of her toots

>> No.16480655

>>16480212
please posts bobs and vagene thank you

>> No.16480658

>>16480628
nooooo why is she walking barefoot! she's going to ruin her feet!

>> No.16480661

>>16480650
Amish go barefooted for summer.

>> No.16480662

>>16480661
but on the streets ? Dirt paths and grass maybe.

>> No.16480669

>>16480658
>>16480661
Learn something new everyday, huh.

It's good for you, earths you out like.

>> No.16480675

>>16480662
Well, I'd assume that in case of necessity they've probably got some available dispensations.

>> No.16480676

OP is cute. CUTE

>> No.16480695

OP is obviously a woman, I can tell by her writing style.
Those who doubt are obviously incels with no experience with women's writing styles.

>> No.16480708

>>16480695
Anon, do I have a feminine writing style?

>> No.16480710

>>16480212
You could’ve said this in a chart thread or a questions that dont need their own thread thread, what the fuck was the point of this besides wanting to show off you’re a woman? If you really browsed /lit/ you would know this was retarded and didnt need to do this. Dont care if you’re a woman or not but so far I believe it because your decision is something a woman would do in her backwards thought processes. Next time dont do this, if you actually give a fuck about this board you’ll see that this was pointless and fucks up our already fucked up board flooded with worthless threads.

>> No.16480712

>>16480212
JUST LIKE MY ANIME *uploads polsoyjak*

>> No.16480720

>>16480710
>questions that dont need their own thread thread
ooh those are good I really like those

>> No.16480729

>>16480695
She's a woman but is also baiting. I know because I am a woman and I make womanbait threads

>> No.16480749

>>16480729
>I know because I am a woman and I make womanbait threads

Tits or gtfo

>> No.16480751

>>16480729
How do you bait as a woman when you are one? I've never made a thread before, only a few comments over a year.

>> No.16480761

>>16480751
lol

>> No.16480817

>>16480751
In order to comprehend women's logic you have to understand that they operate under the constant impetus of their prime directive, which is alpha male semen extraction.

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Dear sweet baby Jesus, smite this thread.

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>>16480212
>No, I will not post tits.

So, you have chosen death then.

>> No.16480870

>>16480212
I can recommend books you want but no I will not post titles.

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>>16480212
If no titties, then no titles.

>> No.16480887

>>16480311
Wait, are you saying DFW offed himself mid book intentionally, to deepen the value of The Pale King?

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>>16480223
>>16480229
>>16480251
>>16480470
>>16480749
>>16480870
>>16480874

>> No.16480922

>>16480914
his boobs are bigger than mine

>> No.16480942

>>16480212
Philosophy is dogshit, read on Roman law. Start with Gaius's Institutes: http://thelatinlibrary.com/law/gaius.html

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>>16480922
Have this one for next time they demand the tribute ultimatum.

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>>16480952
cropped

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>>16480952

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>>16480212
i wish i were an attractive woman
i could just find some dude who was also good lucking and had a decent personality
let him knock me up
give birth 5 or some times or whatever
and then stay home as a NEET raising kids and reading books

sounds like a good life desu, why don't women do this

>> No.16481010

>>16480942
>Philosophy is dogshit
based retard.

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>>16480212
If you really want to do the trad thing you're missing the fundamentals
instead of Siege read;
>The Bible
>Charles Taylor - Secular Age
>Joseph De Maistre - St. Petersburg Dialogues
Instead of Stoicism go for Aristotelianism - its much more practical and arguably more traditional. Emotion suppression is stupid, you should instead cultivate the right dispositions so you have the appropriate emotional reactions;
>Aristotle - Nicomachean Ethics (Even better, Aquina's Commentary on the Nicomachean Ethics)
>Aristotle - The Politics
Also read
>St. Augustine - Confessions
>Chesterton - Everlasting Man
Instead of Lenin read;
>Bertrand De Jouvenel - On Power
>C.A. Bond - Nemesis
If you want trad female authors;
>Iris Murdoch - Sovereignty of Good
>Hildegard of Bingen - Scivias
>Catherine of Siena - The Dialogue
>Julian of Norwich- Revelations of Divine Love
>Teresa of Avila - The Interior Castle
>Evelyn Underhill - Practical Mysticism
Good luck, happy reading, God Bless

>> No.16481059

>>16480296
you'll live a much more fulfilled life if you do develop religiosity
read Edward Feser
>>16481038
this guy got it right but hes jumped the gun thinking youre Christian or something
good advice
but OP is gonna need something like Feser's Introduction to Aquinas and/or The Last Superstition

>> No.16481076

>>16480981
>5 times
You wouldn't have time for reading books anon, take it to like three maximum and spread that shit out. Also the dude needs to be rich and loyal in addition to good looking and good personality or you might get kicked to the curb at some point or forced to work to help supplement income to keep the kids fed.

>> No.16481093

>>16480212
Thoughts on Evola, Philosophicat?

>> No.16481099

>>16481038
Copy and pasted to save for later. Thank you.
>>16481059
True, I am not a Christian, but I respect Christian beliefs and values. Reading the bible and religious works as an atheist may still be able to improve my life.

>> No.16481104

>>16481099
>True, I am not a Christian, but I respect Christian beliefs and values. Reading the bible and religious works as an atheist may still be able to improve my life.
Cringe and bluepilled, read some Dostoevsky

>> No.16481111

>>16481099
>True, I am not a Christian, but I respect Christian beliefs and values. Reading the bible and religious works as an atheist may still be able to improve my life.
It's a shame, but I pray you will see the light soon. May God be with you.

>> No.16481116

>>16481104
>>16481111
>thirsty chriscels hard-orbiting a false flagging tranny because she said she is muh trad
LMAO

>> No.16481117

>>16481104
My bf wants me to read Dostoevsky with him. Do you have a favorite of his?

>> No.16481121

>>16480402
>>16480350
but it's only a problem if the opressor is not a capitalist as in every "issue" acordign to nu-leftists

>> No.16481123

>>16480350
Do you guys not understand traditionalism?

>> No.16481127

>>16481121
or the state, or the teacher. You get me

>> No.16481130

>>16481117
>boyfriend
OH NO NO NO
chriscels fucking wrecked

>> No.16481143

>>16481116
I'm just trying to save thots and trannies from hell

>> No.16481145

>>16481123
There's a trad meme which isn't really traditionalism at all, therein lies the confusion, blame zoomers.

>> No.16481155

>>16481117
Ditch your bf, convert to Islam and you become a virgin again, and if you want I could ask my wife if it's OK with her if I marry you. If you're cute.

>> No.16481163

>>16481143
Respect. I wish someone had told me not to be a whore much earlier in my life.

>> No.16481171

>>16481155
Not so big on the harem thing. My bf asked if we could convert so he could have one, and I declined.

>> No.16481181

Do not feed the attention whore [x9999]

>> No.16481182

>>16481076
>You wouldn't have time for reading books anon
not for the first 5 years, but it will be smooth sailing after that.
but if you really want to, you can make the time.
>take it to like three maximum and spread that shit out.
nooo 3 is like minimum. if my wife wants to be le independent womyn I'll just raise them myself. i've been looking after little children as long as i can remember and it's pretty great.
i mean i can cook, clean, and do all that shit myself already.
>Also the dude needs to be rich
yes but this is only because of capitalism requires you to make a lot of money to be able to support children.
i don't mind living frugally, i already do. the wifey might not.
>and loyal
if someone has values, they will remain loyal.
>or you might get kicked to the curb at some point
we don't do that where i'm from, and even if something like that happened we have extended family to fall back on and help us get unto our feet
>or forced to work to help supplement income to keep the kids fed.
this is more dependent on the health of the economy.

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>>16480212
>traditional womanhood
Get married young and have lots of children. Defer to your husband and put yourself last. The "traditional" woman is a shepherd to her children and an undying supporter to her husband. You won't.

>> No.16481356

>>16481116
I thought it was some random anon, I swear I didn't know!

>> No.16481374

>>16481182
>not for the first 5 years
This would be close to true for like one kid. If you popped out 5 in a row it would be more like a decade+ depending on how fast you got them out, and having them all together and interacting would compound the work. You already stopped imagining you're the woman so I guess it wouldn't be your problem anymore though.

>> No.16481389

>>16480212
I've always particularly enjoyed literature on how media effects the way we think in the modern world. Jean Baudrillard and Guy Debord were particularly outstanding thinkers in that department.
I don't know any good books on womanhood, unfortunately.

>> No.16481391

>>16480543
Exactly

>> No.16481394

>>16480543
women

>> No.16481401

>>16480212
post tits and feet and I shall tell you to read Rupi Kaur Milk and Honey thanks

>> No.16481416

>>16480401
*remains a spook

ftfy

>> No.16481538

>>16480212
>I love Stoicism, but my woman brain and emotions make it difficult sometimes.
Okay Larp. No women, even trad, would say something like this.

>> No.16481555

>>16481538
Why are you gatekeeping what women can say?

>> No.16482204

>Fem
>into political "philosophy"
Dumb and cringe, read metaphysics and epistemology. Reading political philosophy or ethics without a foundation in the other two is like building a castle on quicksand, it will not last nor can it be enjoyed.
>also an atheist
Read Kant, hopefully that will get you out of your materialist mindset.

>> No.16482551

>>16480212
Man I wish I was a trad trap wife.

>> No.16482554

>>16482551
Based twink poster.

>> No.16482659

>>16480212
I'm also a biological female. Unfortunately born in a male body

>> No.16483047

>>16480212
Xenofemminism and Das Kapital

>> No.16483054

>>16480249
>>16480340
it's a joke you double digit iq subhumans

>> No.16483083

>>16480212
The instructions are all conveniently packaged here:
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5e2a073c30473

>> No.16483109
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>>16480212
Start with the platonic dialogues, maybe The Apology or Meno.
After having a good basis in Plato and Aristotle, consult pic related.

>> No.16483123

>hey I'm girl :)
>144 posts
every fucking time

>> No.16483140

>>16481538
>Okay Larp. No women, even trad, would say something like this.
it is completely within the realms of the kind of thing an outsider would self-deprecatingly say about themselves to ingratiate themselves with a group, cretin
OP good luck with your quest, i don't have any recommendations for you but probably plenty of the recs you've gotten in this thread are good, apart from the guy who said you should read infinite jest twice (don't even once)

>> No.16483155

Tits or gtfo.
Start with the Greeks like everyone else.
I also seriously recommend masturbating to >>16483083. Yes, especially if you are female.

>> No.16483158

>>16480914
>t. newfag

>> No.16483162

>>16480212
Hello my fellow woman, I too am a biological female.
Tits or gtfo

>> No.16483174

How /lit/ has fallen

>> No.16483226

>>16480212
Stick to the bible and the quran. Maybe the perennialists and other ancient wisdom lit if your interested in going beyond that. Politics and philosophy are all hylic garbage.

>> No.16483239

>>16480212
>but my woman brain and emotions make it difficult sometimes

a woman would never say something like that

>> No.16483284

>>16480212
Try reading The Feminine Mystique.

>> No.16483287

>>16482551
Don’t worry, op wishes that too.

>> No.16483291

>>16480212
female reading philosophy for what purpose

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>>16480212
>trad fem
>reading books written by jewish intellectuals
yikes. just learn how to cook and sew and take some trad guys dick nightly after marriage. its not rocket science.

>> No.16483517

>>16480212
Find the most competent and moral man in your local organic community, and marry him and support the fuck out of him, and have as many kids as you can feasibly support.
That is literally all there is to it.

>> No.16483548

>>16480212
Fucking hell who has the time for this?

>> No.16483550

>>16480212
I think you're on the right track, but you need to look more towards the 'Trad' end.
Evola, obviously, if you're looking for traditional spiritualism. If it's something more practical, try and find scan of those old 'Housewives Guides' that were popular in the late 1800s - early 1900s.
>On Anarchism by Chomsky.
Fucking awful book by Chomsky. He drones on and on about the history of anarchism, then makes no points other than how it's failed, then goes on to claim himself to be an anarchist. It's like writing a book about why communism has never worked, then claiming to be a Leninist.

>> No.16483556

>>16483550
>writing a book about why communism has never worked, then claiming to be a Leninist.
So the majority of Commie theorists then?

>> No.16483602

>>16480212
Show feet to prove white and not fatty

>> No.16483708

>>16483158
You better suck on them chocolate titties, boy if you know what good for you better squeeze 'em but not too hard I'm gonna give you dat sweet chocolate milk

>> No.16483780

>I'm a woman
>150 replies

>> No.16483984

>>16480212
The Women Who Run with Wolves, it explores the archetypes of femininity.

>> No.16484007

>>16480212
>No, I will not post tits.
You don't get to change the rules, hole. Post tits or gtfo.

(I actually believe you're female: you arrive here and immediately start demanding shit while offering nothing in exchange.)

>> No.16484021

>>16481117
Please stop attwhoring and hating on your gender lmao. Stop falling to the "women are inferior" meme, it just happens to be predominant here because this board is mostly males and thus most things women write are not so attractive for us.

But anyway start with Notes from Underground or Crime and Punishment.

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>>16480212
>I love Stoicism, but my woman brain and emotions make it difficult sometimes.
It’s a shit philosophy for people with emotional issues.
You ought to replace it with Epicureanism.

>> No.16484356

>>16484284
>ywn live in a village by a river with no (((cars)))

>> No.16484387

>>16480212
>Growth of the soil
>100 years of solitude
>Ballad of nayarama (first the new version then the old version)
>The earth abides
>The priviliged sex

Femine strength is different from masculine strength. Females have traditionally always held positions of power, guiding bloodlines and social ties. Woman are not traditionally head of the town but are traditionally head of the family. Be skeptical of anybody claiming there is strength is submission, good marriages have little.

>inb4 hurrdurr Romans, Jewish, Confucian manuscripts
Elite ethics and power relations are not typical power relations

>> No.16484406

>>16480212
Please love me

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>>16480212
F30/married/social nationalist ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
I'll mentor you, if you send me a picture of your flat hand, so I can make sure that you're truly a biological female. Also don't be an american mutt. Message me today: backfisch@byom.de

Pic related, mostly classics, political and historical literature. But also child rearing, modesty and childrens lit.
Hancock and Heyersdahl are my guilty pleasure

>> No.16484481

>>16480212
>woman

>> No.16484488

Oh and btw OP, the books you read and the majority recommended on here are pure trash. You better not bring that to our bookclub.

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>>16483780
Makes you think

>> No.16484505

>>16484459
>i'm trying to rape you: the post

>> No.16484520

i don’t like to engage with troonposts. go back to discord. you will never be a woman.

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>>16484505
>rapeing someone through emails

>> No.16484532

>>16484459
tranny

>> No.16484541

>>16484530
why are your hands so hairy and thick?

>> No.16484557

>>16484530
you groom them online into meeting up then rape them, obviously.

>> No.16484589

>>16484557
She posted at 1am CET, probably a kiwi or burger. If I would want to groom a girl, I wouldn't go the the trashfire place which mostly attracts uggos.

>> No.16484608

>>16484589
just go join a /soc/ discord if you want to groom some random e-girl so bad then

>> No.16484620

>>16480303
What about a return to community, responsibility and happiness would you debate?

>> No.16484622

>>16484608
>discord
I already stated that I'm a boomer and not into alphabetical shabos goys. Is it that hard to believe, that one would want to help someone else out on their path? Otherwise she will spend years reading Infinitive Just and Das Kapital for your shits and giggles.

>> No.16484632 [DELETED] 

>>16484622
the way you presented your offer for help was creepy and also you should know that anyone who says they are a female on here, including you, is a some kind of tranny or other unsavory variety of moid

>> No.16484639

>>16484622
the way you presented your offer for help was creepy and also you should know that anyone who says they are a female on here, including you, is some kind of tranny or other unsavory variety of moid

>> No.16484646

>>16484622
>Is it that hard to believe, that one would want to help someone else out on their path?
yes. you just want e-girl attention.

>> No.16484660

>>16484632
Are you surprised that someone posting on here is socially inept? I mean, if she doesn't want to get a useful curriculum, she can simply not respond. Otherweise she can only benefit.

>>16484646
I'm posting here for years, if I would want the attention of some pizza faces, you would long have known me as the new gutterfly. But either way, let's not make this about me, I have other threads which need my attention.

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>>16484660
>out of my way, the m'lady needs me

>> No.16484715

>>16481099
>Reading the bible and religious works as an atheist may still be able to improve my life.
Not really. They’ll help you navigate through a crowd of the little schizos, hold some conversations and understand some historical perspectives though.

>>16483123
>Stahp! Stahp conversation! STAHHHHP
>>16483174
>How /lit/ has fallen
>Discussing books. *cringe*

>> No.16484730

>>16484715
>Not really.
The whole western canon is based on the bible and the greeks. Not having read it at least once is brainlet tier. Imagine reading the divine comedy without it. It's like reading Orlando Furioso without having any idea what medieval romanticism and the arthurian sagas are.

>> No.16484784

>>16483556
Pretty much.

>> No.16484788

>>16484730
>The whole western canon is ba
>He didn’t start with the Greeks

I’ve read it. Life is too short to waste on it if one has no interest. But read it if you like, read it if you plan to read Dante or Aquinas or whatever. Glad O isn’t a Christian like so many lost “souls” crowding this once great board

>> No.16484818

>>16484788
>he doesn't realize that all modern "philosophy" is just anti-christian seethe
>they literally even give their books latin titles to LARP as catholic scholars

>> No.16484823

>>16484788
Both are necessary. And honestly it's not even that long. The OT is also very interesting in a mythological historical context. The new especially if you are interested in the christianization of europe and how each country basically has their own flavour of catholicism, full of paganism. Not reaading it will lead you to not understand the majority of our literature - but than again, you do need to not only read but get it as well. If you read it and have no historical and cultural context you will become one of those tards saying that Christ said to literally show the other cheek, instead of promoting subversive guerilla tactics using insults.

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16484880

If OP is still taking recs. Read this one. Very informative good stuff.

Of course I approve of your reading Stirner and Chomsky, and I recommend You read more anarchism. As. Former Rightwinger it fits me far better than liberal progressivism ever did or state socialism (eastern or Western European varieties) ever would have

>> No.16484893

>>16484880
>fight for democracy
What a pleb. OP, you better not fall full universal rights of political participation or other lefty memes.

>> No.16484906

Just be yourself nigga, when will you zoomers realize that coping through archetypes will get you nowhere. Jus B youselfz niggggaa-a-a-a-a-a-aa.

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>>16484893
Direct democracy is the ultimate path to a conservative’s paradise

You’re a bootlicker with daddy issues.

>> No.16484938

>>16480212
slit your fucking throat

>> No.16484946

>>16480212
No trad woman uses 4chan, please stop fucking LARPing. If you’re a real woman I’m sorry but 99% of the time this shit is fake. Tits or gtfo.

>> No.16484962

>>16484932
Democracy is impossible outside a small community you mongoloid. Direct democrazy will still fall for propaganda and the will of the masses, voting for their won benefits. Only in a small community can everybody dirctly feel the consequences of abusing benefits through voting rights, if all other fails, through physical punishment and banning from the other villagers.

>> No.16484971

>>16480212
Read Marx and lenin

>> No.16485020

>>16484962
>Democracy is impossible outside a small community
The best way to live. And banding together of local small communities. Very much the union of egoists that Stirner mentions.
>propaganda
Lolno
>the will of the masses
AT LAST! Majority rule! Minority rule has never worked properly
>voting for their own benefits
How idyllic! They would of course have to, say, not pollute the waterway of a river for the community down that way would be hurt.
Also a non market economy to break this infernal idea that life is a death match competition would turn us into a cooperative world of nice people.
Instead of sociopaths ruling the world we’d have world leaders of fine charism (übermensch?)

>> No.16485028

>>16485020
>charisma

>> No.16485078

>>16485020
Of course such a life would be ideal, but it's unattainable at this stage of the yuga.
>Instead of sociopaths ruling the world we’d have world leaders of fine charism (übermensch?)
Wunschdenken. Even the best leaders were only temporary, as they either have fallen into naivety (Hitler with Göring) or through not presenting their progeny the same difficult upbringing as they did, therefore changing their views (Marcus Aurelius with his son). Might is always destructive and makes you or at least the people near you, seek more might, like a drug. You simply cannot have a political system where a character can manipulate people into voting for him. The majority will simply vote for gibs, in any other form. This is slow but certain ruin. As representation doesn't work either, as certain elements will subvers it, there isn't a system which works in our state. And this is a good thing, because we need to destroy it. We can't be a globohomo breeding ground for trillions, we need to reduce the people to quality instead of quantity wher something akin to the ideal is possible again. Kill of modern technologie and after 5 years you will have thrrough mass starvation. After 25 years a whole new generation will be alive which again will be the creme de la creme.

Trying to find a way to make degeneracy work is degenrate to begin with.

>> No.16485128

>>16485078
t. Luddite who thinks Hitler was a good leader

>> No.16485167

>>16485128
He was a charismatic leader which loved his people. He did fucked up, but so did everyone before and after him.

>> No.16485195

>>16485078
>People's self-interest is a population problem
>Primitives were more moral
>People who overcome material penury automatically know how to run a country
>If individuals have probity, it doesn't matter what kind of system arises from them
Political science and civics need to be mandatory in high school. Jesus christ.

>> No.16485240

>>16485167
You said here >>16485078
>Even the best leaders were only temporary, as they either have fallen into naivety (Hitler with Göring) or through not presenting their progeny the same difficult upbringing as they did, therefore changing their views (Marcus Aurelius with his son).
You're counting Hitler amongst the best leaders, we can get down and dirty with the subjectivity or not but there's absolutely no fucking way he should even be considered as an actually "good" leader of Germany, all things considered. You should look up what Luddite means if you don't already know, and maybe there's some legitimate prophecies regarding the loss of technology and future failing harvests and I don't think it's virtuous in any way whatsoever to wish to be an agent of indiscriminate destruction.

May your email inbox be filled with circumcised dick pics :^)

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>>16485078
>yuga
> Hitler with Göring

>> No.16485269

>>16485240
>muh hitler
Jesus Christ, imaging having a discussion about politics and your main point of butthurt being that someone took one of the best known examples of charismatic leaders.
Pathatic.

>> No.16485305

>>16485269
Oh, I didn't see where was mentioned 'charismatic'. Because it fucking wasn't you absolute retarded fungal infected stinking cunt for brains mong. Do you have anything else?

>> No.16485332

>>16484932
>>16484880
>>16485020
>>16485254
imagine shilling for democracy in the year of our lord 2020

the absolute state of this board

>> No.16485379

>>16485305
Jesus fuck, read the post to which I was replying too you fucking mouthbreather, where it is speacifically about charismatic leaders. Just fuck off, brainlet and don't pester disgussions with your normie takes.

>> No.16485418

>>16485379
You made a totally unqualified claim of simply best, which is not the same as:
>Instead of sociopaths ruling the world we’d have world leaders of fine charism
And now you're mad at me because I cannot read your mind. Go fuck yourself. You should learn to communicate your shit better so ordinary folk can understand it. You're still wrong anyway, Hitler is not a best example of some non-sociopathic leader with fine charisma. Fucking idiot, you're simply back peddling away from what you actually said to something else which was another possible interpretation and STILL WRONG.

>> No.16485461

>>16485418
>REEEE YOU ARE WRONG HITLER BAD
Top kek, next time go reply to some Pushkin feet thread if you can't even follow a simple conversation with gutterfly.

>> No.16485546

>>16485461
Thank you for your concession.

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>>16485546
Whatever you have to tell yourself.

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16485640

These four books by sir Anthony Kenny

It starts with ancient philosophy and works through medieval all the way up to modern

You will learn how it(our current understanding of life today) all started, how those ideas evolved and by who, afterwards you will know exactly who you want to read more of and who you don’t

There has yet to be one single thread posted on this forum that has discussed a western philosopher that isn’t covered in one of his four books

It used to be recommended on here before starting with the Greeks or anyone else

>> No.16485647

>>16485640
It’s probably the best intro series before you dive deep into anyone specific

>> No.16485660

Trad fem training sounds like a porno desu senpai

>> No.16485725

>>16485332
Are you under some delusion that the US is having an election under some democratic auspices?
Or are you just a LARPing monarchist?

>> No.16485738

>>16485580
I accept your concession

>> No.16485753

>>16480212
Catholicism by Robert Barron
Summa Theologica of Thomas Aquinas
RSV-CE Bible

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One more book rec. this might interest someone like OP. Interesting groups and their interpretations of what traditionalism is. I liked the Amish and and Gypsies best

>> No.16485844

>>16480350
>decades and decades of time just spent doing the same repetitive tasks over and over again, no days off.
Sounds like wagecuckery desu.

>> No.16485987

>>16485725
>US having an election
>things that matter pick one leftoid

>> No.16486543

>>16483109
Useful. Thanks
>>16484459
Sorry, but I'm an American mutt. Hope that doesn't ruin the offer.

I wrote down almost all of the book recommendations, since I'm in-between jobs and have infinite time. I read some of Das Kapital, and I'm not doing it again. Reading the sparknotes of it is unironically better than dealing with Marx's writing. The recommendation from >>16485640 seems really good. How do I torrent books if I can't find a pdf of it on Google?

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>>16480212
>I love Stoicism, but my woman brain and emotions make it difficult sometimes. Please recommend books relating to politics, philosophy, or traditional womanhood.
I would recommend this selection by Brian Inwood and Lloyd Gerson, it even includes a short essay by Musonius Rufus on why women should pursue philosophy.

>Women have received from the gods the same rationality as men have, and it is this that we use among ourselves and in accordance with it we think about every matter, whether it is good or bad, whether it is honorable or shameful. Similarly, the female has the same senses as the male: sight, hearing, smell, etc. Further, the desire for and affinity to virtue are not limited to men but also occur in women; for they, no less than men, are naturally pleased by honorable and just actions and censure their opposites.

>> No.16486842

most women don't read books.
the ones who do read books don't read /lit/ books unless it's required for school.
women sure as hell don't come here.
if you are a female please for the love of god, leave and run in the opposite direction, as far as you can. your sex blessed with the opportunity to live a happy live free from intellectual burden. do not willingly admit yourself to a life of misery

>> No.16486945

>>16486595
I will for sure check this one out.
>>16486842
The only women I knew to read books did it to be quirky or they were professors, so I understand where you're coming from. I think women are held to too low of a standard in society and that most of them have the intellectual capability to be /lit/ if society didn't give them free stuff and attention just for being a woman.

>> No.16486956

>>16486842
>blessed with the opportunity to live a happy live free from intellectual burden
Fuck I hate being female.

>> No.16487010

>>16480320
>birth control
>trad fem
OK lol

>> No.16487025

>>16487010
She claims to be a reformed slut

>> No.16487039

>>16487025
There's literally no such thing. Being a whore has permanently physical and psychological consequences. The same way in which a boy's brain chemistry is altered due to excessive pornography consumption, a woman's is changed by birth control and sex with multiple partners.
She can LARP as a tradgirl but she never will be. She has damaged herself beyond repair and she will never be the tradgirl she now wants to be.

>> No.16487042

>>16486945
Well, as a man tonight I'm drinking beer and smoking cigarettes and going to watch the football in a couple of hours.

>> No.16487050

>>16487039
If all men are ruined by porn and all women are ruined by sluts then everyone is just ruined together and it all becomes equal once again

>> No.16487052

>>16487050
>all men
>all women
Keep coping roastie, not everyone threw their bodies away like you did.

>> No.16487062

>>16487052
Not all women throw their bodies away, but in the age of the internet the amount of men never hooked on porn is exceedingly small.

>> No.16487071

>>16487062
>the amount of men never hooked on porn is exceedingly small
You live online and believe everyone else does too. Keep coping, roastie.

>> No.16487085

>>16487071
Young men grow up with the internet now, you are delusional if you think this isn't the case for almost all modern children or young people who haven't been extremely sheltered, and it will only get worse. It is a tragedy

>> No.16487109

>>16487025
By slut I meant that I slept with people before marriage, albeit only 3. Had feminism not been the only belief system I was introduced to (largely in part due to parents not giving guidance), I likely would have saved myself. I'm on birth control because I'm only 18 and I nor my partner are ready for kids. I don't see the point of waiting to do anything with him until I am married if I'm not a virgin.

>> No.16487131

>>16487109
>only 3
Okay still a slut but it could be wor-
>I'm only 18
What a fucking thot

>> No.16487139

>>16487131
tru, but too late

>> No.16487147

>>16480350
I'm pretty certain there were and are so called "trad women" that rule their husbands with an iron fist. To recognize the inherent difference of the male and female social roles does not mean one recognizes an ultimate hierarchy. I think Ivan Illich wrote a book on that.

>> No.16487428

>>16480212
Ignore them, I think it's wonderful to see a woman reading stuff that's not rom-com shit and softcore. Good on you

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>>16481130
Why? It's good that she's found someone. Stop acting like some fucking Indian subcaste gigolo; as if you will get laid by anonymous women on the internet.

>> No.16487462

>>16484880
>the tranny thinks that his imput on womanhood matters

>> No.16487466

>>16487109
>18
>3 sexual partners
yikes. you're not gonna make it

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16487523

>>16480212
>Biological female here. No, I will not post tits.
FUCK OFF YOU STUPID WHORE
DIE AND NEVER COME BACK
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.16487552

>>16480442
...that sounds like traditionalism

>> No.16487563

>>16484639
Roastie

>> No.16487915

>>16480212
> I'm culturally right
Read Marx, then get into egoism like you're planning to. Stirner, Novatore. Also read Proudhon, Bakunin, Kropotkin, Rocker.

>> No.16488056

>>16480543
Are you implying that right-leaning men categorically hate women?

>> No.16488074

>>16487552
Odd way of saying "sanity" you have there.

>> No.16488104

>>16485240
Hitler was pretty spectacular up until he actually started the war, he could probably have sat on his ass a few years after annexing the Sudetenland, let things cool off, and the Allies would have seen him more favorably

>> No.16488118

>>16480212
>culturally right
what does that mean to you? i don't think this forced dichotomy means much of anything.

>> No.16488167

>>16484459
Sehr, sehr basiert wenn es denn stimmt.

>> No.16488175

>>16488118
Culturally correct

>> No.16488299

>>16488118
It means a lot to her boyfriend and probably parents. Don’t pressure her.

>> No.16488363

>>16484620
A true return to community would require a return to tradition which you are not proposing.
Read Guénon.

>> No.16488378

>>16480212
>18 year old girl
>3 sex partners
>has a boyfriend
You're just having a self hating phase where you pathetically attempt to ingratiate yourself to men who hate and sneer at you because your current boyfriend fucked this idea into your head. As soon as you break up you'll be right back on the whore train and probably tell stories of how awful this time in your life was and how stupid you were

>> No.16488395

>>16480212
You sound very similar to my girlfriend so I'll just tell you what I always tell her.
Fuck off you slut.

>> No.16488420

>>16480212
>Biological female here
Stopped reading there

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>> No.16488770

>>16480212
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.16488889

>>16481117
Skip notes, start with Crime and Punishment then Brother's Karamazov. Read his best works first not last.

>> No.16489028
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Thank you everyone for the recommendations. I won't be looking at this thread any longer. In about 2-3 months after I've read some of these, I'll check in ask for more recommendations or give an update if anyone cares. <3

>> No.16489347
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16489347

I cared, but you didn’t say anything to me.
W/e, have fun, bye.

>> No.16489445

>>16489028
You should text Mar back, Tahlia. That's what you should do.

>> No.16489450

post tits or feet bitch

>> No.16489487

Post armpits

>> No.16489492 [DELETED] 

>>16485987
Message me, and we'll see if the racial degeneration of your people has token a tool as well on the individual.

>> No.16489857

>>16489347
lmao women are all the same attention-hungry beasts lol

>> No.16489860

>>16480212
>my woman brain and emotions make it difficult sometimes
i dont believe this post, too self-aware to be a biogirl

>> No.16489868

>>16480212
This might be the cringiest post I've ever read. Please stop larping as the opposite gender on the Internet. Go outside and get some air.

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>>16480212
Good luck to you.
Maybe try Eckhart Tolle or Donald Hoffman.

>> No.16489980

>>16480212
>women
>reading siege
What

>> No.16490755

A cookbook

>> No.16490776

>>16480212
>No, I will not post tits
gtfo

>> No.16490996

>>16484459
>trashmail
>DSC00225
>( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)

>> No.16491020

>>16480212
the bible - douay rheims version or the new american bible.

>> No.16491898

>>16480212
>what I should be reading
If you are serious about being trad, you don't read
You get back in the kitchen and you get back in the bed, and then you cook, and you take care of the children, and if you are lucky you don't get beaten or raped before you turn menopausal
Sounds fun huh
Now fuck all you LARPing cunts (m)

>> No.16492012

>>16480212
https://discord.gg/VSx7vqJ

>> No.16492191

>>16480212
PLEASE OH LORD PLEASE LET THIS BE BAIT OH CHIRST NO.

Look, if this isn't bait, you're either extremely young or fucking stupid.
You don't need to follow this cookie cutter idea of "traditional womahood" to be validated as a woman.
Do not reject your so called "dumb womanly emotions". Embrace them. Emotions paint our worlds in rich and vibrant colors, and sensitive women are blessed with them. You do not have to follow this Western propaganda of what an intelligent woman looks like. Stop being a fucking retard.

>> No.16492950

>>16480212
Just get yourself a big strong muslim man.