/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16478448]

Is it worth it to learn Latin?

[Anonymous No.16478454]

Yes.

[Anonymous No.16478455]

Ita

[Anonymous No.16478456]

>>16478448
Its worth about tree-fiddy

[Anonymous No.16478457]

Minime.

[Anonymous No.16478467]

yes mate, bitches love latin speakers

[Anonymous No.16478481]

>>16478467
really? will latin be the thing that gets me a gf at last?

[Anonymous No.16478503]

>>16478481
no you clown, learn french or spanish or fucking afrikaans. latin is extinct. you dont want extinct bitches

[Anonymous No.16478521]

>>16478503
Reciting Ovid in Latin gets the girls proper wet.

[Anonymous No.16478684]

>>16478503
>you don't want extinct bitches
You know me not.

[Anonymous No.16478724]

>>16478455
I'm very new to latin. Is just "ita" used in medieval Latin? wouldn't it be "ita est" ? Did the romans use "ita" ?

[Anonymous No.16478730]

>>16478503
who wants to attract roasties from the rabble?

[Anonymous No.16478755]

>>16478448
Sure, if you're learning a language for its literature there's few better choices.

[Anonymous No.16478776]

There's two things to read in Latin
>The FUN stuff, like Ovid, Varro, Caesar, Virgil, etc
There is absolutely no reason to learn Latin to read this unless you actually want to read exactly what they wrote. It's already been translated to English, and any other language on the fucking planet. This is the "written by a dude who worshiped Jupiter" Latin, which is an aesthetic description that I feel works better than trying to put precise dates on this.

>The boring stuff, which is basically everything written in Latin after dudes stop worshiping Latin
There is a metric FUCKTON of this stuff. Remember, German PhD students were writing their theses in Latin up until the end of WWII. This is all untranslated. It's also stuff like "Some French monk sperging out about how this Irish monk gets this passage of Aristotle wrong" and "two Cardinals arguing over whether Mary only approves or adores fucking little boys in the ass". Unless you're a sincere and devout Catholic (you aren't) 99% of this is just absolutely worthless, and the worthwhile parts are already in English.

[Anonymous No.16478781]

>>16478454
Better than Attic Greek? That's what I am learning atm.

[Anonymous No.16478785]

This is now a Latin learning/literature thread. What's Cicero's best speech? I've read some of the philippics, the Catilinarians, and Pro Caelio. I'd like to study a new one.

[Anonymous No.16478818]

>>16478781
I prefer the sound of Latin to Greek personally. Greek is much more archaic and brain opening though.

[Anonymous No.16478854]

>>16478785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Kk7VkoWbc

follow this autist's advice

[Anonymous No.16479404]

>>16478776
not saying there isnt that latter catholic stuff, but most anything considered highly achedemic was recorded in latin at least to the beginning of the 1700’s. you could read newton, or a romantic epic, or some weapon/fighting treatise. there is a wholebunch of stuff writen in latin after the classical world even if you are not interested in theology.

[Anonymous No.16479460]

>>16478781
There is much more material in Latin considering it was the main intellectual language until the mid 17th century and many Latin original books were still released in the 19th.

[Anonymous No.16479547]

>>16479460
i did a whole project translating old 1500’s sparing treatise into english. it was really fun.

it sounds almost like a bit, but seriously there was one writen by an old man who started out complaining about “them darn kids nowadays with their fancy shmancy guns” and how the old noble art of the sword was being neglected so he decided to print the book. it was actually really entertaining.

[Anonymous No.16479570]

>>16478776
>Some French monk sperging out about how this Irish monk gets this passage of Aristotle wrong
sanctum basatum, you've convinced me

[Anonymous No.16479615]

>>16478724
Wtf? Ita means "so". Use a dictionary.

[Anonymous No.16479658]

>>16478776
>Some French monk sperging out about how this Irish monk gets this passage of Aristotle wrong
Sounds based. guess I'll learn Latin

[Anonymous No.16479700]

>reconstructed 'classical' pronunciation
Show me one (1) recording of this that doesn't sound literally autistic.
Reminder that this is an ecclesiastic pronunciation board.

[Anonymous No.16479801]

>>16479700
I speak French and Italan and just pronounce it as a mix of those, which are nu-Latin not fixated on Cicero.

[Anonymous No.16479966]

I'm such a pathetic faggot all I do is read Latin and fantasize about being a roman. I've completely lost touch with reality.

[Anonymous No.16479982]

>>16479966
You are less pathetic than 98% of the population, including me.

[Anonymous No.16480067]

>>16479982
It's gotten pretty intense. When I lie in bed I imagine myself having a dialogue completely in Latin. I think in Latin in the shower. I write my diary in Latin. In the rare instances where I have a conversation with another human being, I find every excuse to change the subject to Latin. I will have to resist the urge to explain this or that word's etymology, its Latin roots. When writing a paper I have to resist the urge to self indulgently squeeze a Latin quotation or phrase into every sentence. I read books whose subject matter I have no real interest in, by virtue alone of it being in Latin. For example, the Corpus Iuris Civilis. A cute girl smiled at me at the university library and I didn't go over and talk to her because I wanted to finish reading a speech of Cicero (second Philippic). This language has utterly consumed my life. I can't imagine a subject more rich, interesting, soul edifying. I was blind before I studied Latin. Now I can see.

[Anonymous No.16480106]

>>16480067
Wish I had even 5% of your motivation. Today I woke up, pissed in the sink, browsed the chans, ate yesterday's pizza and jacked off 5 consecutive times to kristy black getting gangbanged by the legalporno crew. Looking forward to sleeping for up to 14 hours though.

[Anonymous No.16480125]

>>16478684
doth thou mother know you weareth her drapes?

[Anonymous No.16480139]

>>16479615
I know what it means you fucking tard. I've heard people simply say "ita" as a replacement for "yes" instead of "ita est". I was just wondering if this is modern retardation or it was used in medieval Latin.

[Anonymous No.16480140]

>>16479801
hahaha I do the same I pronounce the words in a mixed way sometimes it sound better one way sometimes the other...lets do some Latin:


Casta placent superis, pura cum veste venite et manibus puris sumite fontis aquam.
>Chaste pleases the superior, come with pure vestments and with pure hands take the fountain's water

TIBULUS

[Anonymous No.16480187]

>>16478448
Yes if you can, No if you can't

[Anonymous No.16480316]

>>16480067
>To be entirely ignorant of the Latin language is like being in a fine country on a misty day. The horizon is extremely limited. Nothing can be seen clearly except that which is quite close; a few steps beyond, everything is buried in obscurity. But the Latinist has a wide view, embracing modern times, the Middle Age and Antiquity; and his mental horizon is still further enlarged if he studies Greek or even Sanscrit.

>If a man knows no Latin, he belongs to the vulgar, even though he be a great virtuoso on the electrical machine and have the base of hydrofluoric acid in his crucible.

>There is no better recreation for the mind than the study of the ancient classics. Take any one of them into your hand, be it only for half an hour, and you will feel yourself refreshed, relieved, purified, ennobled, strengthened; just as if you had quenched your thirst at some pure spring. Is this the effect of the old language and its perfect expression, or is it the greatness of the minds whose works remain unharmed and unweakened by the lapse of a thousand years? Perhaps both together. But this I know. If the threatened calamity should ever come, and the ancient languages cease to be taught, a new literature shall arise, of such barbarous, shallow and worthless stuff as never was seen before.

[Anonymous No.16480361]

>>16480067
I'm getting there...I think we are goin to make it anon
the good thing about being a total outcast of society is that sometimes you get focus your attention into sometimg fruitfull, in general I try to post interesting things so others can learn even when just wasting their time lurking around
BTW this translations I'm posting are the best you will find (I'm not joking)

Rénuit consolári ánima mea , memor fui Dei, et delectátus sum, et exercitátus sum et defécit spíritus meus.
>rejects consolation this soul of mine, remembered was God and delighted I am, and exercised I was, and deficient is this spirit of mine. (the spirit is deficient to contain all the joy)

Missae "Tenebrae"

Liquefácta est terra, et omnes qui hábitant in ea... Ego confirmávi colúmnas ejus.
>liquified is earth, and all that inhabits in her... I confirmed her columns.


in virtute posita est vera felicitas (Seneca)
>in virtue is posited true happines.


"Gladium" means sword hence "gladiator"

[Anonymous No.16480385]

>>16480316
>If the threatened calamity should ever come, and the ancient languages cease to be taught, a new literature shall arise, of such barbarous, shallow and worthless stuff as never was seen before.
Damn...

[Anonymous No.16480389]

>>16478776
>Some French monk sperging out about how this Irish monk gets this passage of Aristotle wrong
sauce me senpai

[Anonymous No.16480391]

Mane salutavi vero te nomine casu nec dixi dominum, Caeciliane, meum.
>this morning I saluted you but I named you casually not saying "Lord", Caeciliane of mine.
quanti libertas constet mihi tanta requiris? centum quadrantes abstulit illa mihi.
>how much this liberty will cost me, how much you requiere? hundred "quadrants" that took from me

Martialis

[Anonymous No.16480524]

>>16480385
Schop is a prophet

[Anonymous No.16480624]

>>16480385
My girlfriend got her undergrad degree at Columbia, where the university still prints its graduates diplomas in Latin. I like to joke that they give their graduates a degree in a language that they never taught them to read.

[Anonymous No.16480673]

>>16480624
that's so funny anon, yayy!

[Anonymous No.16480829]

>>16480106
living the dream

[Anonymous No.16481199]

>>16478455
dakimasu

[Anonymous No.16481222]

>>16480316
>being in a fine country on a misty day
Oh, how will bongs recover?

[Anonymous No.16481713]

anyone read eny early print latin, like 1500's shit?

[Anonymous No.16481750]

>>16478776
Learning even the basics of Latin gets you like 25% of the way to learning Spanish or Italian and maybe 10% of the way to French

[Anonymous No.16481752]

>>16481713
I've read part of a 1500s spanish manuscript, so not latin, but the experience is similar

[Anonymous No.16481777]

>>16478854
can anyone verify that this is a good study plan?

[Anonymous No.16481844]

>>16480067
Based desu

[Anonymous No.16481850]

>>16481752
I really like the aesthetic of the period. somewhere i did some translations of the new latin in a fencing treatise. cant find it though.

[Anonymous No.16481959]

>>16478448
yes

[Anonymous No.16482016]

>>16481850
Yeah I enjoyed it very much too. I made a transcription of the first pages of a chronicle about a conflict between some spanish kings, very fun. Would be fun to translate some of it into another langusge, might do it some day too.