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/sffg/ - Pretentious Twaddle Edition

What's your favorite pretentious novel, and why won't you stop recommending Gormenghast already, your mom does not want to read it.

Charts:
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>> No.16475468

>>16475261
Thomas Covenant is the greatest fantasy protagonist. Change my mind

>> No.16475481

>>16475468
>omg my lepracy has been cured!!! welp, better get on with the raping
i read it as a young teen and didnt get it, and im 38 and i still dont get it. same author wrote a scifi series, where some chic gets the shit raped out of her multiple times also, i think he has a fetish

>> No.16475511
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16475511

Any fantasy books that take inspiration from the worldview of these guys?

>> No.16475610
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>> No.16475719

Are fantasy magazines dead or are there a few decent ones still putting out nice stuff?

>> No.16475840

>>16475261
Viriconium > Gormenghast

>> No.16475865
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16475865

Anybody else read this yet? Came out yesterday. Novik is probably my favourite fantasy author atm and this book sure didn't dissapoint.

>> No.16475935

>>16475865
No funnily enough I haven't read a book that was released yesterday

>> No.16475994

>>16475935
Well, maybe someone else had it on preorder and is currently reading it? It has only like 300 pages so it's a quick read too.

>> No.16476091
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16476091

>mfw reading Jack Vance
his use of vocabulary is simply sublime

>> No.16476157

>>16475261
Brandon Sanderson — When Will There Be Movies or Video Games Based on My Books?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18NM0006lvs

>> No.16476164

>>16476091
Just so

>> No.16476262

>>16473409
Gtfo you bible thumper faggot. Yall fake christcucks need the rope. You are willingly reading books about witchcraft and demons. You fornicate and have sex constantly outside of wedlock, then think going to church on Sundays makes you forgiven, and think you're better than others.

>> No.16476359

>>16476262
Anon, reading about a catholic character does not imply I have to be catholic. Or perhaps you are a retard?

>> No.16476392

>>16476359
When you and your friends left 2x4chan and invaded lit, any religious talks can be pointed to you guys. You are trying to be circumspect because you found out your shit gets banned here, but it's you guys all the same. You can't fool anyone you thumper faggot.

>> No.16476483

>>16475865
Is there a reason to read this over something like Harry Potter?

>> No.16476519

>>16475511
What’s their names, I’m not familiar with the faces

>> No.16476599

>>16476392
Anon....i also like reading vampire books. I suppose I am a vampire also? Seriously take your meds, schizo

>> No.16476650

>>16476483
It's a different book anon. Why would you want to read one thing "over" the other?

>> No.16476698

>>16476599
Can you recommend me a vampire book? I liked Let The Right One In.

>> No.16476787

>>16476698
The fat vampire
The unattractive vampire

>> No.16476812

>>16475261
Riddley Walker

>> No.16477456
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16477456

Bros, I think I'm running out of flintlock fantasy to read

>> No.16477528
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16477528

anyone familiar with the Vampire Hunter D books know if they're any good?

>>16475261
i finished Dune and feel like maybe all the philosophy/religious ideas could make some feel pretentious after reading it. I did end up liking it tho even if the first third was very slow.

>>16477456
always been curious about this subtype, what would you say is worth checking?

>> No.16477784

>>16477528
Guns of the Dawn is the best one I've read. The Powder Mage series is the most popular and easy to get into. His Majesty's Dragon is the closest to just reading a Horatio Hornblower novel. The Thousand Names is the most direct Napoleon allegory. Some options.

>> No.16477888

>>16477528
>anyone familiar with the Vampire Hunter D books know if they're any good?
I've read the first three and I like them. They are not masterpieces but they are fun action/horror/adventure reads.

>> No.16477890
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16477890

I don't like pretentious I like pulp SF and the last book I found really fun to read was Drakon:
90's NY Detective vs Augmented-Female-Supersoldier-From-The-Future-On-Her-Way-To-Conquer-Earth-All-By-Herself.
I want more 90's SF strong woman now...
What should I read next?
Honor Harrington?

>> No.16477967

>>16475261
Islandia
Gormenghast
The Aegypt cycle

>> No.16477975

>>16476698
The Society of S.

>> No.16478213

I have some downtime between now and the end of the year. My goal is to start a routine of reading at least an hr and a half each morning and followed by a hour before bed. I'm a novice when it comes to reading but I've always enjoyed fantasy. My question is which series should I start with, I own physical copies of the first 3 Dark Tower books, The Gentlemans Bastard series & the Kingkillee Chronicles series, which do I start with?

>> No.16478230

>>16476262
I don't, I am not religious or spiritual in any way, however I am very decent person even by christian standard (I mean the real devoted chrustcucks who believe). I quite like Michael too, pretty nice character.

>> No.16478257

>>16478213
Maybe read the first one or two pages of each and see which hooks you in the most. If you can't decide I'd vote for Kingkiller Chronicles.

>> No.16478495

For the anon who brought it up last thread, the reason I enjoyed the newest Dresden Files book was due to how Butcher handled his side characters. Everyone who should have been there was there, in particular The Alphas and the Za Lord's Guard. Secondly, there were serious consequences for this battle. Thousands upon thousands died, Chicago will be changed forever, and enough relevant characters bit the dust. I know Murph didn't have much time left, but the way it happened was a fitting shock. Hendricks dying is another huge thing, if only because I always saw him as the last vestige of the man Marcone started as. Some of the twists were predictable, like Justine, but others the sudden death of the other Wardens, the unceremonious boot from the WC, and Marcone picking up a coin work very well in the context of the story, while still being very sudden swerves. Everything that happened made sense to me, given my understanding of this world and these characters. It's a sharp contrast to a lot of modern media I consume, where the art of storytelling and characterization takes a backseat to ham-handed themes and convoluted, "epic" plots. Of course, that's on me for not seeking out better media. When the Dresden Files are the most cohesive thing you've consumed in a bit, it's gonna look good.

>> No.16478505

>>16476698
Fevre Dream is a nice one.
Blindsight

>>16478213
Of those I suggest the Bastard books. Look into Discworld.

>> No.16478800

>>16475261
Fuck branderson
Fuck Abercrombie
Fuck martin
Fuck female authors
Fuck maps
Fuck magic systems
Fuck the chosen one
Fuck multiple POVs
Fuck magic swords
Fuck female protagonists
Fuck violence fetishized by middle class losers
Fuck grimdark
Fuck sci fi
Fuck sagas
Fuck chronicles
Fuck trilogies
Fuck unfinished series
Fuck chinkshit

>> No.16478807

>>16478800
The hero this general needs, but not the one it deserves.

>> No.16478816

>>16478800
why yes
*huffs own shit*
I exclusively read philosophy

>> No.16478838

thoughts on John Sladek?

>> No.16478873

>>16478807
What about the hero it WANTS? Personally I want a hero with thick thighs, a fat ass, huge tits, and a big black cock.

>> No.16478876
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16478876

Did he bite off more than he could chew? His editor certainly thinks so

>> No.16478886

>>16476698
BLINDOPRAXIA

>> No.16478894

>>16477890
Honor Harrington is just a poor man's Vorkosigan.

>> No.16478896

For the nerds that know the elder scrolls lore rec me a book series like it

>> No.16478905

Guys I think I might rape someone.
I want to put my pp in a girl really bad.
Any books where the MC rapes women? Other than Thomas covenant?

>> No.16478923
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16478923

>>16478873
>t.
Americans are the grossest fucking things on the planet

>> No.16478950

>>16478923
Why are you trying to force a new wojack meme?

>> No.16479081

>>16478905
Tons of erotica, self-published books, and all other sorts.

>> No.16479090

>>16478873
I've seen artists who draw that.

>> No.16479091
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16479091

Jesus christ if there isn't a better example of "don't write a story when you're horny" than Olympos. Ilium was great, but Olympos is just mediocre, save for the sex scenes and all the naked big breasted ladies walking around.

>> No.16479553

>>16475261
>just started reading Gormenghast
Wtf, why didn't I read this years ago. It's everything I've always wanted in a fantasy novel

>> No.16479581

Somebody remind who exaxtly is Listen from BattleGrounds? He is a commander on fomors side, and mortal but I just don't remember a character like that but everyone seems to know him in the book.

>> No.16479691

>>16479581
He's just kind of a side character, I haven't read Battle Ground yet because I can't find a download but he's in Skin Game and Peace talks, both times for like one scene.

>> No.16479720

>>16478923
Nice try, stinky chinky.

>> No.16479832

In what order do I read Witcher?

>> No.16479845

>>16479832
Publication order.

>> No.16479935

>>16478495
I largely concur with what you said. I’m not that big on these sorts of instalments, where it’s all spectacle and action and payoff - I prefer the more relaxed ones that introduce new characters, expand the setting, and stop to smell the flowers. But for what it was, it was well executed, and I’m sure I’ll enjoy reading about the aftermath of it all in the next book.

>> No.16479955

>>16478896
There isn’t one, Elder Scrolls lore is dispersed and ambiguous in a way that a book series can’t be. It has no main characters and no particular plot except some really abstract meta-narrative-type stuff. If you’re interested in Elder Scrolls then stick with Elder Scrolls, there’s little else like it.

>> No.16479957

new here. whats a book that is so well thought out, built up from the smallest details that it could almost be a reality?

>> No.16479977

>>16479581
He’s the head of the fomor’s mortal servants, he’s been appearing intermittently in everything since Changes - including the side stories. Hasn’t really been developed much as a character but we learned something quite important about him in battle ground so I’ll bet he gets some proper focus within the next couple books.

>> No.16479989

>>16479957
Gormenghast

>> No.16480083

>>16478213
Kingkiller chronicles is great, but the series will never be finished, so that's a bit let down.

>> No.16480122

>>16480083
I bet that in a decade or two he'll have a late-life crisis and pump out three books over an 18 month period, fueled entirely by cocaine and desperation.
They will be the exact same quality as the originals.

>> No.16480127

>>16478800
Yeah

>> No.16480161

>>16480122
I started this series right after song of ice and fire, I've already let it go.

>> No.16480174

>>16479977
Have a download for the new book?

>> No.16480188

Authors not finishing series is the free market at work.

>> No.16480195

E William Brown is a wondrous capitalist. Praise be to his name.

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16480246

i started rereading the wheel of time in anticipation of the amazon adaption tonight
does anyone here have any faith in the upcoming show? i've been avoiding news to try to keep it unsullied so i can go in with an open mind, but there's just so many things that i can't see transferring well to live action. the difference in saidar and saidin, the metaphysical confrontations between rand and ba'alzamon, etc
i'm also afraid of the success of another epic fantasy show right now even if it's handled well. i think the market is a bit saturated, and the wheel of time is a relatively unknown story, longer and more grandiose than the others, and i'm worried people won't have the patience for it, and it'll crumple under its own weight regardless of how well it's pulled off.
unrelated to all that, i'm still salty that there's no physical edition of a memory of light with darrell k sweet's art, i know he said it was incomplete but it's still my favorite of his

>> No.16480263

>>16480246
Don't do that. It'll ruin the watching experience.

>> No.16480265

>>16479935
I thought he'd just built up too much narrative cruft and needed to clean house.

>> No.16480269

>>16478816
He said fuck magic systems.

>> No.16480294

*Ahem*
Fuck
E
William
Brown

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16480310

>>16480246
>and i'm worried people won't have the patience for it,
Not even fans have the patience for the tripe you call a story

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16480472

>>16480263
how so? i've read the books already, so the show already wouldn't seem new or fresh to me, and if the adaptation is bad enough to be ruined by reading the books then i won't be missing out of much anyway. i'm fine with them having to cut things, it is a 12 book series after all. as long as the people are in character (despite rafe saying he "didn't get" nynaeve, one of my favorite characters), and the plot is generally the same, then i'm on board. i'm a bit hesitant to put faith in a 30-something year old goofball to have the knowledge and life experience to transcribe something as encompassing and deep as the wheel of time, but again, i want to keep an open mind.
>>16480310
it definitely overstayed its welcome, but i liked that not ever word was used to further the main plot. it made the world feel more whole, the side characters feel more real, and indirectly improved the weight of tarmon gai'don by revealing more and more of what was at stake. at leas that's how i feel, but i'm a big fan of expansive worldbuilding and live for that kind of stuff. if you disagree or feel someone else did it better, please let me know and i'll check them out if i haven't already

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>>16477890
One of my favorite book series

>> No.16480615

>>16480577
Have you read the actual Aubrey-Maturin series?

>> No.16480818

Anyone have a download link for the new Dresden Files? It's not on libgen or tpb.

>> No.16480896

>>16480615
I have not

>> No.16480917

>>16480818
Zlibrary has it

>> No.16480920

>>16480896
Reward yourself. It is phenomenal. If you don't love it after book three you're immune but if you do it is so worth the investment.

>> No.16480957

>>16475261
What do you guys think of this excerpt from my current book? It's pretty good.

>"Ach, mein Lieber!" said he once, at midnight, when we had returned from the Coffee-house in rather earnest talk, "it is a true sublimity to dwell here. These fringes of lamplight, struggling up through smoke and thousand-fold exhalation, some fathoms into the ancient reign of Night, what thinks Bootes of them, as he leads his Hunting-Dogs over the Zenith in their leash of sidereal fire? That stifled hum of Midnight, when Traffic has lain down to rest; and the chariot-wheels of Vanity, still rolling here and there through distant streets, are bearing her to Halls roofed in, and lighted to the due pitch for her; and only Vice and Misery, to prowl or to moan like nightbirds, are abroad: that hum, I say, like the stertorous, unquiet slumber of sick Life, is heard in Heaven! Oh, under that hideous coverlet of vapors, and putrefactions, and unimaginable gases, what a Fermenting-vat lies simmering and hid! The joyful and the sorrowful are there; men are dying there, men are being born; men are praying,—on the other side of a brick partition, men are cursing; and around them all is the vast, void Night. The proud Grandee still lingers in his perfumed saloons, or reposes within damask curtains; Wretchedness cowers into buckle-beds, or shivers hunger-stricken into its lair of straw: in obscure cellars, Rouge-et-Noir languidly emits its voice-of-destiny to haggard hungry Villains; while Councillors of State sit plotting, and playing their high chess-game, whereof the pawns are Men. The Lover whispers his mistress that the coach is ready; and she, full of hope and fear, glides down, to fly with him over the borders: the Thief, still more silently, sets to his picklocks and crowbars, or lurks in wait till the watchmen first snore in their boxes.

CONT

>> No.16480962

>>16480957
>Gay mansions, with supper-rooms and dancing-rooms, are full of light and music and high-swelling hearts; but, in the Condemned Cells, the pulse of life beats tremulous and faint, and bloodshot eyes look out through the darkness, which is around and within, for the light of a stern last morning. Six men are to be hanged on the morrow: comes no hammering from the Rabenstein?—their gallows must even now be o' building. Upwards of five hundred thousand two-legged animals without feathers lie round us, in horizontal position; their heads all in nightcaps, and full of the foolishest dreams. Riot cries aloud, and staggers and swaggers in his rank dens of shame; and the Mother, with streaming hair, kneels over her pallid dying infant, whose cracked lips only her tears now moisten.—All these heaped and huddled together, with nothing but a little carpentry and masonry between them;—crammed in, like salted fish in their barrel;—or weltering, shall I say, like an Egyptian pitcher of tamed vipers, each struggling to get its head above the others: such work goes on under that smoke-counterpane!—But I, mein Werther, sit above it all; I am alone with the stars."

>> No.16480979

>>16480917
Thank you

>> No.16480992
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>>16480917

>> No.16481101

>>16478800
stoplikingwhatidontlike.mobi

>> No.16481112

>>16480992
Just use TOR anyway.

>> No.16481114

>>16480615
>>16480920
thanks I'll check it out

>> No.16481129
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16481129

What is the key to a good cover in your opinion?

>> No.16481165

>>16481129
That I find it aesthetically pleasing

>> No.16481236

>>16480472
>it is a 12 book series after all
not sure if you're being intentionally wrong, but it's a 15 book series. are you dropping the prequel and combing the brandon sanderson ending trilogy?

as to your original question, I have no expectations, I will watch the show when it comes out and give it a fair chance. the only casting decision that irked me is Min being played by a 40 something

>> No.16481253

>>16481112
I don't have anything TOR accessible after my laptop decided to take a function sabbatical. And what does that have to do with anything?

>> No.16481376

>>16476157
The fat fuck is even fatter

>> No.16481410

>>16478213
Gentleman Bastards is pretty good

>> No.16481431

Is the Waylander books any good? If not what are some other fantasy with ranger protagonists?

>> No.16481607

Enjoy your spoonfeeding. Automatically expires in 24 hours but could be taken down before that.
Battle Grounds - Jim Butcher
https://a.uguu.se/jzzzsw.epub

>> No.16481643

>>16479832
Read the short stories. Then either stop, or set your expectations lower.

>> No.16481666

>>16481253
What the fuck does it mean. There's even tor for Android. Any device you are using to write this post, acess the web browser or make this screenshot you can install tor in a few minutes instead of begging here like a faggot.

>> No.16481694

>>16480174
it's on zlibrary you worthless faggot

>> No.16481718

>>16480957
>>16480962
English is your third language, eh?

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16481724

This book is pretty fucking shit, but at least it put me on to a genuinely good narrator who apparently did a bunch of Murakami. Might just cut my losses and pick up wind up bird chronicles

>> No.16481737

>>16481718
No, I was just trying to imitate a bit of an old and further away style. What did you think of it?

>> No.16481757

>>16480992
https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?t=3879045

>> No.16481774

>>16480957
unreadable.

>> No.16481788

>>16481737
>I was just trying to imitate a bit of an old and further away style.
Yeah, don't waste your time, it's damn near unintelligible.

>> No.16481805

>>16481737
If you want serious replies you should go to the crit thread

>> No.16481819

>>16477456
Give me two months anon, and you can read mine, I swear

>> No.16481842

>>16481774
>>16481788
Wha- how was it unreadable?

>>16481805
Will do.

>> No.16481854

>>16481819
I'll hold you to that. I'll even do the audio book version for you if you deliver it on time

>> No.16481859

>>16481805
Just checked, there is no crit thread.

>> No.16481877

>>16481859
Then either wait for the next one or make one yourself. This thread is all pleb genre fic readers anyway, we're not going to give good feedback

>> No.16481920

>>16480246
>does anyone here have any faith in the upcoming show?
The Amazon series is already dead on arrival. The writers have proven by their twitter posts that they fundamentally misunderstood the portrayal of a large swathe of the cast and totally missed the point.
Imagine how much of a brainlet you have to be to miss the point of Wheel of Time. I actually like the series, but it isn't deep, you have to be a total retard to not cotton on to what Jordan was doing.

>> No.16481929

>>16481877
How do I make one? But as for content, what would your thoughts be?

>> No.16481952

>>16481607
It's hardly spoonfeeding if Ive been actively looking since release, but thank you.

>>16481666
I'm not risking TOR security for a book, research TOR on mobile.

>>16481694
See
>>16480992

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16481970

I hate to request you guys but I've been searching for a PDF of The Selected works of Phillip K. Dick and I'm wondering if anyone has any leads? The physical copies are ridiculously expensive and I'm a neet. I don't even need all volumes (it's preferable). Here's a summary of volume 6. Also does anyone know any other letters of Science Fiction authors that are worth checking out?
> In this sixth entry in the series of Dick’s letters, the great sci-fi author continues his metaphysical and religious quest initiated by the Valis visions of 1974. In these letters to friends, fans, agents, and other sci-fi writers, Dick speculates on the visionary and archetypal material that intruded into his novels in the latter part of his life, which marked a turning point in his literary career. These intensely personal letters express Dick's deepest thoughts on science fiction, human nature, philosophy, and more.

>> No.16481977

>>16481757
Thanks for not being a shit nugget, anon.

>> No.16482001

>>16480957
>>16480962
well at least you followed the thread theme, 'cause this is Pretentious Twaddle

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>>16482001

>> No.16482017

>>16481952
it's spoonfeeding because it's not hard to find with a couple minutes in the usual places

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16482035

>>16482001
What is pretentious about it?

>> No.16482076

>>16481737
>I was just trying to imitate a bit of an old and further away style
Why? Seriously, why? All the flourishes you take to fit your intended style make it tough on the eye...superfluous capitalization and rampant hyphenation only manage to entirely distract from the story your attempting to tell.

>> No.16482078

>>16482035
Not that anon, but it reads like you're trying way too hard to me. Writing doesn't need to be overly complicated

>> No.16482089

>>16482076
>>16482078
It's just the natural way I like to write, I grew up reading Victorian lit.

>> No.16482117

>>16480957
>>16480962
Reminder, anon, that most fantasy has never had a high bar for prose. Most modern fantasy borders on fanfiction levels of writing (I mean, look at the biggest name in modern fantasy right now, Brando Sando himself; his prose is insultingly simple, almost as if it's written for nine year-olds). So most anons who read a lot of genre fiction aren't going to appreciate Melville-levels of flowery, antiquated prose. That being said, while you definitely capture that "old and further away" feel, it is a bit difficult to read. I would simplify it a little bit so the reader doesn't have to work too hard to understand it. Other than that, it's definitely not the most awful thing I've read (I've seen worse in published books), so keep working at it!

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16482134

>>16480957
>>16480962
Tasteful. It gladdens me that some still strive for refined English prose.
Yet, as others have noted, you'll have to simply for modern readers.

>> No.16482139

>>16482089
Well, the problem with Victorian lit is that it is very outdated. You're not going to be able to sell a novel in that style in 2020. Critics even bashed Tolkien, and still do, for writing in an archaic style. If you're an exceptionally talented writer then maybe you can get away with it, but you're fighting an uphill battle and making things needlessly hard on yourself

>> No.16482142
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>>16480957
>>16480962
>>16481718
>>16481737
>>16481774
>>16481788
>>16481805
>>16481842
>>16481877
>>16482001
>>16482076
>>16482078
>>16482117
>>16482134
Just google searched it, turns out it's from Thomas Carlyle's "Sartor Resartus". Anon has pulled a joke, and I have fallen into it miserably.

>> No.16482167

>>16481952
Elaborate on the risks.

>> No.16482171

>>16482142
fucking hell, you're right.

fuck you victorian prose anon

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>>16482142
/lit/ outed as pseuds once again

>> No.16482185

>>16482142
I'm usually better at avoiding the b8, dammit

>> No.16482190

Holy fuck there's a lot of samefagging going on here.

>> No.16482249

>>16482190
Nope.

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>>16482142
>/lit/

>> No.16482274

>>16478876
Probably. Either that or he makes enough money streaming or shilling merchandise that he doesn't need to write anymore

>> No.16482294

>>16475511
mein kampf.

>> No.16482298

>>16477456
>flintlock fantasy
What's that?

>> No.16482311

>>16482298
Fantasy books that take place in the musket era. Generally they tend to be military focused and set in the Napoleonic Wars or a world very similar to it. Fantasy Period Dramas in the regency era also tend to be lumped in.

>> No.16482321

>>16481970
Would love to read this.

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>>16476157
>>16481236

>> No.16482364

>>16482348
So you read the first 12 books (including the prequel) and stop before the final 3. Interesting choice.

>> No.16482375

sffg discord: https://discord.com/invite/KWPCM7m
spooktober readalong: uzumaki starting today (october 1)
books mega: https://mega.nz/folder/boM2VYIL#tIAAgdpTC_khpDE5jLMAWw

>> No.16482388

>>16482142
>published in 1834
Yeah, but that doesn't really change all the comments talking about the outdated style. I didn't think it was bad or unreadable, just not something that would be easy to publish nowadays

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>>16482321
The original signed volumes are hella expensive

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>>16482311
I'm kinda sad pretty much all of it is based around Napoleonic warfare, I'd really dig a flintlock fantasy more based around the early colonial era.
I mean America might as well have been a mysterious fantasy world filled with dangerous monsters and strange pagan magic using tribals as far as colonists were concerned, might as well just make it a full blown fantasy about exploring a dark and dangerous hell forest.

>> No.16482490

>>16482469
Flintlock's a relatively recent sub-genre, and I suspect the racial politics would make it tough to get that published. Frankly, I'm surprised The Thousand Names got away with as much as it did by making the colonized people gray instead of brown.

>> No.16482510

>>16482490
>Thousand names
Can't stand that series. Actually, it's the author I can't stand, he turns everything he writes into coomer garbage about teen lesbians. Even the stuff he writes that isn't about cringeworthy teen lesbians eventually devolves into teen lesbian romance drama. It's fucking awful, I don't want to read about two annoying dykes talking about their feelings.

Coomers deserve the rope, along with anyone who writes LitRPGs or chinkshit.

>> No.16482521

>>16482490
Just publish through amazon or whatever, we're in the golden age of no longer having to give a shit about what's "PC enough" for publishing jews.

>> No.16482523

>>16482510
I couldn't stop laughing when I picked up his newest book and the protag was another teenage lesbian. His romances are always so bad, but his writing's not bad and the plots are pretty fun.

>> No.16482650

>>16482521
The Golden Age of The Right To Fail

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>>16475261
What I Read & Reviewed In September
~3,178 pages over 8 books, see image.
Technically reached 100 books read this year thus far.
Ideal goal for October is 10 books (4,452 pages) I've already selected, but it's to seen how many I get around to reading or decide not to read.

>> No.16482863
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Anyone read this? How is the series?
Inb4 litrpg, I just want to read something light right now.

>> No.16482864

>>16482758
Do you not have a job or a life? I am envious. I've only read 11,000 pages this year.

>> No.16482879

>>16482863
>a litrpg saga
This is the equivalent of a girl yelling at the waiter on your first date

>> No.16482885

Why do so many authors feel the need to turn their story into video game bullshit? I've come across a bunch of self published shit that actually does sound interesting, except the author inserted a bunch of obnoxious video game bullshit that completely spoiled it. Do people actually LIKE this shit? Who the fuck is reading it?
If I wanted to play a video game, I'd play a video game.

>> No.16482888

>>16482885
>who the fuck is reading it?
Gamers who have tricked themselves into believing that they like literature. I've checked out a few of them and it's downright uncanny how similar they all are, both in quality and content. I'd genuinely rather be caught reading erotica

>> No.16482892

>>16482864
Not having a job or life has its consolations. Of course, books aren't the only media I'm involved with either.

>> No.16483138

>>16478896
Look up Runequest the tabletop rpgs.

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>used to absolutely adore Pratchett as a young ESL and get every release on the day they came out
>go back now that i’m older and notice how much of it is just movie references and obnoxious british liberal politics
The writing quality is still there until the last few books but damn.

>> No.16483221

>>16476262
>Yall
please leave

>> No.16483231

>>16477784
>The Powder Mage
too bad the final book in McClellans series always such let downs

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>>16480246
>>16475261
tourist from /tv/ here, should I start reading "The Wheel of Time" books before watching the show? I'm a casual (slow) reader who has read and loved the A Song of Ice and Fire books, but that's it when it comes to fantasy. I heard the books are set in a matriarchal society ruled by witches and the author has the same fetishes as I do; but if I'm going to read a book, I'm not just going to for the porn, I'm also for the worldbuilding, politics and cool magic stuff.

>> No.16483280

>>16483266
The show is going to be total garbage, if you're interested, read the books then skip the show entirely. There is zero possibility of it being remotely decent.
>I heard the books are set in a matriarchal society ruled by witches
This is kind of close but also wildly wrong, as in completely missing the point. You want a TLDR? Women spend 3000 years fucking up everything, the mortal incarnations of Tyr, Thor and Odin have to unfuck it before non-denominational satan escapes hell.

>> No.16483333

>>16483266
>>16483280
They’re terrible books and it’s a miracle that the show is actually looking to be worse.
Also non-demoninational Satan is unironically less of a villainous antagonist than 90% of the heroines.

>> No.16483379

>>16483266
>>16483266
The books start off long and turn into needless padding but hey if you read the GRRM books then WoT is like the 1990s version of it

>> No.16483392

>>16483333
Most of the women in it are fine. In fact Berelaine and Moiraine are great, and Nynaeve is good too, along with a few others. It's just Elaine and Egwene that are awful. Well granted most of the Aes Sedai are awful, but they're antagonists so that's kind of expected.

>> No.16483410

>>16483392
>Most of the women in it are fine
No, in fact most of them are horrifying cunts.
The few exceptions involve the ever-present main cast and even most of them have entire books were they act like massive cunts.
Many of the nearly-decent ones don’t act non-cuntish until the last third of the series either.

>> No.16483746

>>16482863
The first ones are pretty fun. The latest is all but unreadable. It's basically 400 pages of the MC reading through his notifications from the last battle at the end of the previous book.

>> No.16484383

>>16482863
Don't read anything Kong writes. They are trash.

>> No.16484402

>>16483221
People from all around the world use "yall". It's just an abbreviation of you-all. Your basement dwelling ass need to neck yourselves because you don't know what happens outside your shithole country.

>> No.16484423

Anyone read VE Schwab's A Darker Shade of Magic? Looks moderately interesting, but I've got a pretty big backlog. Any good? I've been reading a non sff book series, so it might be fun to switch it up when I finish.

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>>16481129
3d effects

>> No.16484572

So battle ground was basically a fight followed by 8 more then a boss fight. Very disappointing, as dresden files actual fights are the worst part of his books. I hate this stupid power level bullshit, why can't he just be a private eye again

>> No.16484838

>>16482469
Robin Hobb's Soldier Son trilogy would fit that bill

>> No.16484873

>>16484572
Because he got too powerful to be a private eye. It's never going to happen. The more powerful you get, the more attention you attract. When he was a no name nobody, he was ignored, but he gained the attention of many a powerful entities, he is now the fugging winter knight, he can never go back to the simply ignoreable lifestyle he had before.

>> No.16484892

>>16484402
yanks and ESLs are the only ones who use it
I can hazard a guess as to which one you are

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What are you cunts currently reading that isn't Dresden Files?
If it's something not mentioned before shill it a little.

>> No.16484929

>>16484892
There is a whole region (i.e multiple independent countries) where I live that uses it. You don't know shit about international situations. I'm sure you're one of those fags that gets your autism triggered when you see names in fantasy books, and go off on rants, not knowing the name is common somewhere else in the world.
Unenlightened faggots need to gtfo lit and neck themselves. You don't know how retarded you faggots sound when you try to spout something as factual when you are completely wrong. Pretentious intellectual hack.

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>>16484896

>> No.16484944

>>16484929
sure bud, whatever you say

>> No.16484955

>>16484896
HMS Surprise - not sff stuff unfortunately.

>> No.16484992

>>16483266
sffg really shits on it. I’m going to read the first two books to give it a shot. Any series that goes on for as long as WoT does is probably questionable in general imo tho

>> No.16485004

>>16478800
based

>> No.16485057

>>16478876
No. All he ever did was set up some vague and mysterious plot hooks and tease them but never actually developed any of it. That's not biting off more than you can chew, that's not having enough to nibble on. If the dumbass is struggling to bring his story to a close in one book, it's because he did fuck all to actually set up an actual story to finish.

>> No.16485063

>>16478800
basado

>> No.16485116

>>16482017
I don't have usual places yet, I've never pirated a new book until Peace Talks in the last thread. For me the usual place is tpb or google and hope I can find something not a virus.

>> No.16485123

>>16484944
>got called out
>i was jus pretending, I know other places around the world exists

>> No.16485135

>>16478800
YOu forgot to fuck people who pretend ro have read a book and talk about it.

>> No.16485150

>>16485116
Read the fucking sticky, you readlet faggot. Everything you need is there.

>> No.16485171

>>16484896
Sandman Slim, like the HBO version of an NBC Dresden Files.

>> No.16485182

>>16485150
Sure thing, bud. I'm gonna go back to reading.

>> No.16485222

havent bothered with the dresden books after ghost story
do they get good again?

>> No.16485289

>>16485171
>NBC Dresden Files.
Wasn't it some Canadian company that did the Dresden Files in the early 2000s?

>> No.16485370

>>16482885
>Why do so many authors feel the need to turn their story into video game bullshit?
Autism, they're incapable of seeing things that aren't based in systems and stats, and how to min-max these, so everything they make reflects this.

>> No.16485424

>>16485171
Man, more like the SyFy version. Cheesiest shit I can imagine.

>> No.16485496

>>16482885
Lack of imagination.

>> No.16485522

>>16482758
boy you read some absolute excrement

>> No.16485529

>>16485289
>>16485424
I just meant Sandman Slim is edgier urban fantasy.

>> No.16485548

>>16484402
*y'all

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The king

>> No.16485563

>>16485182
It would take you ten seconds you fucking worthless invalid faggot.

>> No.16485568

>>16485529
I understood that, but was probably equally unclear. I was attempting to insult Sandman Slim by comparing it to a SyFy show

>> No.16485614

>>16484572
This. I have finished about 60% of the book and I am somewhat dissapointed. It is not very interesting. Apart from that one good thing that just happened it is just monotonous and I am quite sick of dumb characters like butters and sanya.

>> No.16485616

>>16485548
I know it's y-apostrophe-all, just couldn't be arsed to do it.

>> No.16485620

>>16485568
I mean, name a "good" urban fantasy series lol. I don't read it for the quality, sometimes I just want McDonalds for the brain.

>> No.16485627

>>16485614
Militant atheist spotted lol

>> No.16485643

>>16485616
christ

>> No.16485654

>>16484572
All your base belong to me

>> No.16485666

>>16485643
J's Christ*

>> No.16485694

>>16476698
Ampire-V by V. Pelevin
Really good

>> No.16485701

Imagine sleeping with a coin demon and making a mind spirit babby.

>> No.16486031

Someone here memed me into reading Farnham's Freehold because i asked for sci-fi war books like the forever war. But I had second thoughts and I decided to first read some reviews and it's a not very well written about blacks ruling over whites as slaves or some shit... WTF?

>> No.16486068

>>16481643
this

>> No.16486069

>>16486031
It's a degeneracy book. As far as I recall, no one recommended that book as a war book. It's a GRI book, gib mommy milkies.

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16486088

I read and dug pic related and am looking to read one of Delany's earlier, harder sf books next. Should I go for Babel-17 or Nova?

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>>16483266
if you're into fantasy for the worldbuilding, politics, and cool magic stuff, then it doesn't get much better than the wheel of time. the show is almost certainly going to disappoint, so i'd say it'd be better to read the books beforehand before the show turns you off the idea of twot and you miss out on a great series forever

>> No.16486117

>>16486069
well shit, the other rec i got was the old man's war, but I wanted a stand alone book not a series as I'm already in thew middle of one right one... It doesn't need to be solely about war, as long as it include survival and sci-fi elements it is golden.. i think i said that in the original post It was a long while go tho

>> No.16486119

>>16483266
The books are pretty much impossible to adapt, and with the quality of this day and ages television it is going to be something incredibely bad. The books are OK to read, but if you're a slow reader it's going to take some times.

>> No.16486129

>>16486117
Starship troopers is what you're looking for.

>> No.16486134

>>16486129
thanks

>> No.16486150

>>16482364
that actually wasn't me, and i simply misremembered how many books there were and thought it was 12 for some reason
i thought branderson did a fine enough job, and if he didn't capture the tone perfectly, at least he used jordan's notes to deliver the intended closure in a series we all thought would be inconclusive forever. it's strange for a series to be completed by a different person, and i wouldn't blame someone for not giving branderson's books a chance because of it, but afaik jordan left enough details that the plot wrapped up the way he would have, and the characters ended up where they needed to be
it's a damn shame we'll never get the books about mat in seanchan tho

>> No.16486199

Speaking of the forever war, did anyone read the belgian comic version of it? I saw it when I was visiting some places to live in Bruxelles, but decided for another place and never got the chance to read it.

>> No.16486317
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16486317

Just finished the Hyperion series and then planned out my next few books, authors:
>Poul Anderson
>Heinlein
>Moorcock
>Glen Cook
>Zelazny

>> No.16486341

>>16486317
>white man
>white man
>white man
>white man
>white man

seriously? do better

>> No.16486342

>>16486093
>the worldbuilding, politics, and cool magic stuff
These are my top considerations when looking for fantasy and WoT sucks at all three.
Worldbuilding is nonexistent with a bit of renfaire Tolkien (but it's hinted at being post-apocalyptic through injokes about german car logos whoa!), Politics is literally just gender politics and straight-up retarded most of the time (nevermind all the missed opportunities like with the Ashaman infighting) and the magic is nothing special unless you're comparing it to like Sanderson churned out crap.
Actually looking back on it what WoT most reminds me of, aside from horrendous filler and perspective shifts that's almost Terry Brooks-tier, is that there is so much plots that start out sort-of-interesting and then completely shit the bed in their execution or resolution.

>> No.16486350

>>16486341
Non-white men should do better

>> No.16486360

>>16475261
Anybody wanna discord?

>> No.16486368

>>16486360
>>16482375

>> No.16486438

>>16486317
How was it? I kind of want to start it after i finish this series I'm on.

>> No.16486545

>>16486317
Looks pretty good man, I'm not a big Anderson fan but what I've read of Heinlein and Zelazny has been good, and Cook is fine too.

>> No.16486584

>>16486545
I love Zelazny, just wish he didn't die before finishing amber.

>> No.16486852

>>16486317
>Zelazny isn't first
Well I guess all the others fail in comparison so it sort of makes sense

>> No.16486903

>>16482885
It sells well.

>> No.16486921

>>16486088
ok why was dhalgren good?

>> No.16486978

>>16478800
Based. Except magic swords. That shit is just cool.

>> No.16487035

>>16478800
What's left?

>> No.16487093

>>16487035
Erotica

>> No.16487177

>>16478800
what is it about maps that you all dislike? i can kind of follow it if you're against the idea of revealing information in ways other than text, to keep the reader's imagined interpretation pure, but does that mean any kind of rendering of the story other than text is off-limits? no cover art, no adaptation, no fan art, etc?
and what about magic systems? if you like having magic in your fantasy, what's bad about defining what it can and cannot do, and how it works?

>> No.16487228

>>16487177
Personally I like maps but a video game magic system takes the mystery out of magic. Granted, magic as deus ex machina is unsatisfying but I haven't actually read books like this, which people keep complaining about.

>> No.16487257

>>16486342
I never finished WoT (was reading it, and quit it, before Jordan died). Now that I know it's finished I was thinking about retrying it, but I do recall it being very annoying lol.

What fantasy would you recommend instead?

>> No.16487294

>>16487257
You quit it well before 2007, that's a long while ago.

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>>16487294
Not him but I quit it before he died as well. The middle books are just quicksand.

>> No.16487314

>>16487308
Stop being old.

>> No.16487323

>>16475511
If you want to see Tolkien subverted, read China Mieville and act accordingly.

>> No.16487333

>>16486199
I didn't even know it had a comic. Must be pretty niche.

>> No.16487343

>>16487294
Yeah I'm getting back into reading fiction via a non-fiction reading habit. Dropped that shit at book 10 before 11 came out.

>> No.16487350

>>16487323
>China Mieville
kek

>> No.16487378

>>16480246
The tv show will be shit. But the books are good, so enjoy them.

>> No.16487410

So I'm 20% into Gardens of the Moon and fucking hell. It reads like a 13 year old's fanfiction

>> No.16487416

>>16487410
What's the last book you read that you liked?

>> No.16487430

>>16486438
I recommend Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion, there's a step down for Endymion and Rise of Endymion.
>Simmons only wrote this series so he could include a zero-g 69 scene.
>>16486545
It'll be my second Anderson, first was decent. Probably not going prioritize reading his books.
>>16486852
That's fine by with me.

>> No.16487432

>>16487410
I really do not understand people's love for Malazan.

>> No.16487438

>>16487416
I suppose it was The Player of Games

>> No.16487454

>>16487257
Depends on what you're after. I personally really like most of the old pulps particularly Clark Ashton Smith's work (Zothique, Averoigne, Hyperborea, with a few duds here and there but they're generally short), Leigh Brackett (Sea Kings of Mars, The Sword of Rhiannon), Lord Dunsany (Gods of Pegana, Sword of Welleran), Robert E. Howard (Solomon Kane, Conan, Kull) and later ones like Fritz Leiber (Fafhrd & the Grey Mouser stories), Zelazny (moreso Lord of Light than anything about Amber), Jack Vance (Demon Princes, Emphyrio, Planet of Adventure, Lyonesse, Dying Earth, Rhialto the Marvellous), John Bellairs (The Face in the Frost), Poul Andersson (The Broken Sword, Three Hearts and Three Lions).
For worldbuilding - Chink webnovels. It's really their one big strength all their other flaws nonwithstanding. They can even take some really trite subject like say Vancian D&D-style wizards and make a moderately interesting world out of it which is more than can be said for anything D&D-related since the 70s. Just some random recs off the top of my head: Coiling Dragon, The Devil's Cage, Omniscient Reader, Stellar Transformations, World of Immortals, Castle of Black Iron, Renegade Immortal, Warlock's Apprentice, Transcending the Nine Heavens.
Come to think of it I can't actually think of an "epic" trilogy fantasy i'd recommend barring something obvious like Tolkien. Robert Hobb is a shit writer, Malazan is all over the place and not in a good way once you get to the later novels (not sure I got more out of it than WoT desu), Earthsea is nothing special to begin with and Tehanu shits all over it, the only thing notable about Riftwar is the Tekumel/EPT ripoff it does, Gemmell falls off the deep end in later books.. Mythago Wood was kind of interesting-ish so maybe the followups to that?

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16487461

2020 i am... Forgotten

>> No.16487471

>>16487461
Clearly not because you're posting about him and making sure he isn't.

>> No.16487473

>>16487323
Subversion is just cheap bullshit to circumvent the fact that you're just writing a mediocre reaction and are guilty of all the things you criticize while criticizing them.
Any random author who writes from a non-western perspective without any actual contact with Tolkien or Catholicism automatically does more to "subvert" Tolkien than the likes of Moorcock and Mieville.

>> No.16487481

>>16487410
It's well-known as a significantly worse written book than the rest and was done years earlier.
But be warned, even if you stick with the better books it's still not a great series.

>> No.16487496

>>16487473
Nice job ignoring semantics to prove your own point.

>> No.16487583

>>16487496
It's a solid point, though. Subversion is parasitism. Take the risk and try establish your own thing. I'm a gen X'er and this is why we failed.

>> No.16487616

>>16485614
I liked butters as the nerd doctor. And him doing the lightsabre thing should have been a one time deal, he shouldn't have turned into a knight

>> No.16487632

>>16487228
Read older fantasy books with magic. It's why Sanderson hit it big when he published a decade plus ago. Readers are fed up of authors thinking we are stupid and they can just pull whatever from their ass to end a book.

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Been reading Ishiguro and Never Let Me Go is just a slow walk into depression. God I need happy sci-fi/fantasy books that don't lean so hard into idealism it goes full saccharine.
Any recommendations?

>> No.16487978

>>16487942
Sewer, Gas, and Electric by Matt Ruff

>> No.16488047

>>16487632
Sanderson's trick was that a well-developed magic system allowed him to put a new kind of gun over the mantle. I don't hate him or hate magic systems but the gimmick can grow stale like the gimmicks of all old men.

>> No.16488262

>>16487942
Stainless Steel Rat

>> No.16488377
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16488377

>>16478886
Oh you

>> No.16488435

>>16487583
> Gen x
Not sure if know what you're saying.

>> No.16488458

>>16475865
>Scholomance
Is dat sum WoW fanfic or Hearthstone fanfic?

>> No.16488488

>>16488435
GenX vanity was the notion that exposing the absurdity of the established truth -- subversion of it -- would lead to a greater enlightenment. Needless to say it did not or we would not live in hell to this day.

>> No.16488666

>>16478894
>implying Vorcosishit is rich man's anything
It's just Twilight before Twilight and for 'nerrrdy' roasties

>> No.16488797

>>16478905
Gor series. Not rape, but sexual slavery which is close. There are also a lot of ERP communities based on this setting which will help you jerk your pp together with likeminded degenerates.

>> No.16488824

>>16485666
>J's Christ*
>satan's trips

all my ironies

>> No.16488918

>>16486088
I got bored to death by that endless threesome scene and never picked it back up. What do you hipsters see in it? It just drags on aimlessly and the 'shocking' elements... perhaps, those were shocking in the 70s, but now they're just yawn-inducing.

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16489046

>>16475261
Finished the latest Dresden Files. What are some good urban fantasy book that aren't written by middle aged women that are basically smut?

>> No.16489094

>>16489046
Basically or literally smut? Ilona Andrews is a husband and wife couple that write urban fantasy smut.

>> No.16489108

>>16489046
Vurt by Jeff Noon

>> No.16489138

>>16488488
No, I meant I don't know if you're in that generation.

>> No.16489205

>>16488047
His trick was that since the magic has limitations, you won't feel cheated when the protagonist out of nowhere 1vs a 10 million strong army and survives.

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>>16488377
>>16478886

>> No.16489233

Which one of you are paypiggies for authors?

>> No.16489243

>>16484896
Reading choice of magic after seeing the shills for months.

>> No.16489260

>>16489046
Sandman Slim series by Richard Kadrey as I mentioned earlier.

>> No.16489670

>>16487454
Cool thx. Got a Conan book on the way so will start the old pulp shit with that.

>> No.16489682

>>16489243
Nice progression of the promotional campaign.

>> No.16489692

>>16486350
expand your cultural worldview, bigot

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16489744

>>16489046
I remember liking this series, but it's probably been a solid decade since I read it. Honestly, I might pick it up again, apparently six books have been written in the meantime.

>> No.16489748

>>16489744
well, what's it about?

>> No.16489760

>>16489748
I mean, it's urban fantasy. The main character is a detective of some sort. It's not like there's all that much to distinguish all these series. I suppose the thing that's stuck out to me over the years is that everyone's an elemental magician of some sort, with the element's being more of concepts. So you get technomancers who fuck around with computers, fungomancers who spread brain-eating spores around the city, etc. I particularly liked the chaos magician who would regularly do things to fuck herself over at random, because the more chaotic the situation was the more powerful her magic.

>> No.16489781

What are some good alien invasion books or books about conflict with them in space? I’ve hardly read any sci-fi or books about aliens

>> No.16489787

>>16489682
>Nice progression of the promotional campaign
question mark above blackman.jpg

>> No.16489819

>>16489781
BLINDOPRAXIA

>> No.16489826

Are there any urban fantasy books that aren't about detectives?

>> No.16489845

>>16489826
I guess Neverwhere, but it feels weird to call something urban fantasy without it being about a detective. Like calling something a noir novel without one.

>> No.16489879

>>16489826
Vurt by Jeff Noon

>> No.16489901

>>16489826
Yes, but it's rare. Even when it isn't an actual detective doing his thing, it's someone having to solve a mystery and find something (which is detective work).

>> No.16489913

>>16489901
I think there's a good amount of "contemporaneous fantasy" that doesn't need to be mystery solving, but Urban has other implications. Like, Holly Black doesn't usually do detective stuff, but still has a gritty edge to her mall goth fic.

>> No.16489933

Do i have autism if 90% of hat i read is sci-fi and most of what i like is hard sci-fi?
Fantasy doesn't come even close.

>> No.16489953

>>16489933
Just different preferences, I think. I honestly can't stand sci-fi and only read fantasy. I've never understood why the two get lumped together or the kind of person who adores both.

>> No.16490072

>>16489826
Night Watch by Sergei Lukyanenko

>> No.16490308

>>16489826
harry potter, the magicians

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>>16484896
It's alright

>> No.16490637

Why is it that most "high fantasy" novels are kind of shit and are all about "being gritty" when there's an entire subgenre of fantasy where the protagonists are self-centered assholes who murder people and steal gold and jewels from wealthy people already?

>> No.16490678

>>16489233
I live in a third-world shithole. Publishing market here is fucked up, the best you can hope for is a 'translation' that will make you want to gouge your eyes out like 10 years after a book comes out in English. So I just pirate shit. I ordered two Dune books from overseas once though. Would order the other 4 because I wanted the hardback editions, but apparently those have gone out of print. As for patreon beggars and suchlike, they can fuck themselves.
>2020
>simping for some NEET who writes disguised fanfic

>> No.16490692

>>16489781
Forever War and >>16489819 but unironically. If you want actually good instead of HFY fanservicey pulp.

>> No.16490712

>>16490072
You gotta be trolling, Ivan. It starts out as a crime mystery and devolves into some lame soap-opera bullshit while still retaining some of the crime mystery elements. The MC and most of the cast work in 'magical police' ffs.

>> No.16490723

>>16475865
just finished it, it's great

>> No.16491117

What new releases are you expecting in October?

>> No.16491238

>>16489826
the Shadowhunters books by Cassandra Clare

>> No.16491297

Alright lads, help decide which author I deep-dive into next! Looking for someone new to find worthy to add to my shelf. I particularly enjoy and own a lot of: Abercrombie, Bakker, Cook, Gibson, Harrison, Herbert, LeGuin, Miller (Canticle for Liebowitz), Moorcock, K.J Parker, Peake, Tolkien and Wolfe.

I obviously enjoy a select bit of grimdark, but usually really mostly enjoy the quality of writing and unique stories. Dont care either way for magic systems, sprawling canon etc. I also like a lot of classic scifi (Asimov, Clarke, Heinlein etc) and have gone through a lot of the SF Masterworks, but dont see myself revisiting them all that much.

Where do I go from here, I've had my fill of grimdark fun, so especially if I want to go more "literary" the big name missing seems to be Vance or maybe Dunsany, any other bodies of work that will really give me something substantial? Others have suggested Murakami/Mieville/T.H White?

>> No.16491349

Why is Malazan so overrated? Read the first book and holy shit it's bad, like real bad. And I keep seeing people move the goal post by claiming that it gets good after X book, furthest one I saw was the 8th book. Is it just sunk cost fallacy? Must be sunk cost fallacy.

>> No.16491415

>>16491297
Bujold, particularly the Chalion series.

>> No.16491426

>>16491349
Malazan is official fanfiction. Anyone seriously arguing that it is good or even just decent is braindead or just have no concept of quality.

>> No.16491437

>>16491349
Yeah I posted about it yesterday and anons said the first one is by far the worst but also that the others are nothing spectacular

>> No.16492170

>>16487632
You just read shit books. Their time of writing had fuck all to do with it.

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>>16477528
I have read ~24 volumes. The first batch, maybe books 1-8 are good. Not great, but readable. After that it is pure judgement call. The author's pacing gets way worse and the writing becomes increasingly juvenille. Ex: in one of the newer books there's a scene where some guys antagonize D and D does something cool to stop them and all the observers react about how cool D is. 20 pages later the exact same scenario with D doing the exact same thing happens again and it is played the same way. Show don't tell goes out the window with many characters disappearing for half the story only to show up later and talk about all the cool things that happened and what they discovered. There's also too much of a focus on bittersweet endings, to the point the author will have five survivng characters and kind a way to kill all but D and maybe one of them in the last two pages (yes I meant to write two, it's that retardedly abrupt).
So yeah, by all means read the first couple volumes and buy a few more at a time until you burnout. Don't buy twenty at once you'll regret it.

>> No.16492637

>>16491297
This

>> No.16492642

>>16491297
This >>16491415
But Vorkosigan.

>> No.16492654

>>16492642
Only if they're a female or a tranny.