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[Anonymous No.16445685]

Magic System Edition
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[Anonymous No.16445697]

Explain what's wrong with it.

[Anonymous No.16445701]

>>16445697
It takes all of it's inspiration from fantasy like World of Warcraft and other fantasy that isn't even literature

[Anonymous No.16445709]

>>16445697
Drab font. Uninspiring placement.

[Anonymous No.16445711]

Anyone writing a fantasy story?

[Anonymous No.16445713]

>>16445711
yeah, why

[Anonymous No.16445721]

>>16445713
Just asking, I started writing one this morning. What's yours about?

[Anonymous No.16445728]

>>16445685
Hey /lit/, I’ve been working on a magic system that has crystals, particularly the various kinds of Quartz, as a major aspect, but I’m a bit stuck. I’ve more or less nailed down how a mage would utilize the crystals to do magic, but what kind of crystal/Quartz should be associated with what kind of magic is giving me grief, especially since I want there to be at least some connections to the traits of the crystals and/or the associations that they have in gemology, instead of just going off of their colors, which is a bit overdone, in my opinion, and I want to put my own twist on things. Not to mention that I want more than elemental magic in my system, which are harder to assign colors to than elemental magic. Unfortunately, whenever I try to come up with anything, I keep thinking of a certain TV show, the sources that I’ve found outside it are often contradictory, and I would prefer to be more original than just copying from Steven Universe, does anyone have any ideas and/or good sources of information on the crystals, particularly the associations that each have, please?

What about how crystals play a part in your magic systems if they do, it might give me some ideas, please.

[Anonymous No.16445734]

>>16445685
Are WH40k books worth getting into?

[Anonymous No.16445739]

>>16445728
Going to sound a bit hippieish but try looking at and handling these crystals in person and see how they make you feel.

[Anonymous No.16445741]

>>16445685
What's the appeal of Sanderson?

[Anonymous No.16445753]

>>16445721
It's more fantasy sci-f (science fantasy?) but it's inspired by southern gothic stories like those of Cormac McCarthy and William Faulkner. It follows a man and his brother looking for their sister's husband, who killed her and is on the run. They end up becoming part of the crew of cargo freigher spacecraft and get tangled up in the problems and antics of the other crew members as well. What's yours about?

[Anonymous No.16445759]

cursed pic OP.

[Anonymous No.16445825]

>>16445697
Most of it is fantasy written by people who hate fantasy, everyone's so afraid of sincerity that they have to wrap everything in 15 different levels of irony and satire out of fear of someone thinking they actually like the thing they're writing.

[Anonymous No.16445839]

I've been in one of these threads once(I've been browsing /lit/ for a few years) but everyone told me to leave as quick as I could.

Is there anything worth sticking around here for? Fantasy seems pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.16445848]

>>16445697
Bloat. Authors adding too many point of view characters, too many subplots, padding books out to 1000 pages, writing sequels to stories that don't need them, etc. You see it even with simple things like Sanderson giving each chapter a name, a pretty picture, and a quote. The genre has become obsessed with the idea that "more is better".

[Anonymous No.16446005]

>>16445728
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_(fictional_world)#Gemstone_magic
There are probably various other book series that do similarly.

[Anonymous No.16446008]

>>16445839
No. Leave. Forever.

[Anonymous No.16446232]

>>16445697
Everything
>woke
>generic epic fantasy
>bloated
>shit prose for the most part

[Anonymous No.16446242]

this shit any good?

[Anonymous No.16446257]

>>16440505
You see, the thing about Tamsyn Muir is that it seems that she actually knows how to write and has promise. If if she actually practices enough she could take her place in the classic author hall of fame. Unlike whatever the actual fuck Arkady Martine bland, decent and uninspired drivel was supposed to be. So many authors like Ann Leckie, NK Jemisin, Yoon Ha Lee, Naomi Novik etc - I read them because I care about what will happen to the characters, but the actual plot or the prose or the worldbuilding? That just isn't up to snuff and shouldn't be anywhere near the Hugo awards, in my opinion. Not that some of the historical nominees (and some of the awards I've tried) were even that good, to be polite.

[Anonymous No.16446275]

>>16445697
Authors get their inspiration from previously published fantasy instead of myth, the epic, fairy tales and Gothic fiction. Fixation with morally gray characters and the grimdark.

[Anonymous No.16446751]

>>16445697
Written for aging hags and faghags.
Coincidentally the same people who took over the publishing side.

[Anonymous No.16446758]

>>16446257
>NK Jemisin
>I read them because I care about what will happen to the characters

[Anonymous No.16446852]

>>16446242
nope

[Anonymous No.16446857]

>>16446242
>english version
Literally censored by it’s publishers because it’ use of angelic, purity and femininity as positives.

[Anonymous No.16446860]

>>16446758
cute loli!

[Anonymous No.16446975]

>>16445685
>>16445728
Evacuate this thread immediately, that anon is Bumpfag, a vile parasite on genre fiction /tg/.
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/image/B9tb-psFLNMt24SEzg0pnA/

[Anonymous No.16446985]

>>16445734
fairly enjoyable

[Anonymous No.16446995]

>>16445697
appeals to anime and video game faggots

[Anonymous No.16447030]

>>16445685
>tfw actually enjoy writing a book purely for my own pleasure
>don't even care that much if it's never published or popular
>tfw you start to enjoy scifi and fantasy like you were a kid again except now you have the skills to make your imagination come to life
I feel like I'm gonna make it lads

[Anonymous No.16447108]

Is this accurate?

[Anonymous No.16447113]

>>16447030
This is how it is for me too, but it feels like a waste for my hundreds of thousands of words to die with me. Not sure whether to put my fantasy stories on RoyalRoad or Amazon for free or the tiniest possible fee.

[Anonymous No.16447115]

>>16447108
Yes.
t. Narnia appreciator.

[Anonymous No.16447273]

i just read the book of three. should i keep going?

[Anonymous No.16447329]

>>16445839
Once you've read LOTR you can stop.

[Anonymous No.16447495]

>>16446232
>woke
A sexist/racist/unwoke fantasy chart would be a pretty good resourse

[Anonymous No.16447500]

>>16447108
No, both are onions.
Conan is the chad.

[Anonymous No.16447506]

>>16447500
Since when is there a filter for S O Y?

[Anonymous No.16447533]

>>16445685
℉úçķ Ę Wïłłïàm βřöwņ

[Anonymous No.16447549]

>>16445753
That blurb sounds like shit. Wouldn't read. Too cliched for me. Readlets might like it though.

[Anonymous No.16447551]

>>16447495
Make it then.

[Anonymous No.16447553]

>>16447506

Literally at least 2 years

[Anonymous No.16447564]

>>16447533
Spurned jealous lovers are so annoying.

[Anonymous No.16447573]

>>16447506
If you don't know about that, there are likely many others that you aren't aware of.

[Anonymous No.16447577]

>>16447506
Newanon...

[Anonymous No.16447582]

>>16447495
It would have to be almost entirely self published works for anything recent.

[Anonymous No.16447584]

Anybody know what happened to container anon? Was he kill? Didn't see him in years.

[Anonymous No.16447589]

>>16446857
censorship always sucks massive dick, but describing a woman as "pure" is pretty gross.

[Anonymous No.16447603]

>>16446275
>Fixation with morally gray characters and the grimdark.
That is a good thing. Who wants to read about you letting bad guys go because "killing is bad", then the bad guy comes back and kills someone else for you. Fuck that shit. I'm fed up of American sensibilities in fucking fiction "don't kill them, they can be redeemed". This isn't fucking comic books. You trespass on my life or continued existence, you lose yours. You fucking "black and white" morality fags need to neck yourselves. You've ruined fantasy. That shit belongs in YA shit, if you wanna read that, go ahead.

[Anonymous No.16447608]

>>16447533
>every thread
how can someone be so mad at such a trash series of books?

[Anonymous No.16447615]

>>16447506
>>16447500
Not only is conan anon an actual faggot that likes homoerotic novels, and has a fetish of dilating trannies with a mating press, he is also a literal newfag.

[Anonymous No.16447665]

>>16447553
>>16447573
>>16447577
I'm just not spouting s o y constantly like a retarded ape who gets assmad every time they see someone liking something they don't like (especially if it's "political"). This time I only contributed to the meme. Depending who you ask I'd probably still be a newfag though.
>>16447615
Correct and I want fuck your boypussy.

[Anonymous No.16447678]

looking for sci-fi series with humans and certain aliens live fine together.

[Anonymous No.16447688]

I bought this book last week but slightly feel uncomfortable knowing that the author is CCP bootlicker

[Anonymous No.16447691]

>>16447589
> says censorship is a good thing

[Anonymous No.16447709]

>>16447688
>reading something by a chink
>reading something by a woman
???

[Anonymous No.16447717]

>>16447688
it reads like shit anyway

[Anonymous No.16447719]

>>16447688
things you're not allowed to say in china:
>fuck the ccp
things you're not allowed to do in The West(tm)
>fuck niggers
>fuck kikes
>fuck spics
>fuck fags
>fucks trannies
>fuck criminals
>fuck women
>fuck fatties
etc
I know which regime I prefer.

[Anonymous No.16447729]

>>16447719
if i say the top in china i disappear, if i say the bottom in the states people on twitter cry

[Anonymous No.16447730]

>>16447719
This is the brain on authoritarianism.

[Anonymous No.16447734]

>>16447729
And your bank account disappears, and your job.

[Anonymous No.16447738]

>>16447734
>and your job
they cant take my neet bucks, you faggot nigger loving kike

[Anonymous No.16447780]

>>16447603
>black and white morality means being merciful
wrong

[Anonymous No.16447824]

>>16447709
retard

[Anonymous No.16447831]

>>16447719
Why don't you move there

[Anonymous No.16447907]

>>16447719
> not allowed to do
> doing it right now
amazin'

[Anonymous No.16447926]

Is the hitchhiker's guide a good place to start reading sci-fi?

[Anonymous No.16447946]

>>16447926
Yes, depending on who you are you won't like any more sci-fi afterwards.

[Anonymous No.16447974]

>>16445685
Anyone got any recs for really unique stories? Weird ones, with out-there plots and shit?
Books like,
A Book of Tongues - Gemma Files
John Dies at the End - David Wong
Food of the Gods - Kassandra Khaw
Rant - Chuck Palahniuk

I just want something punchy and sarcastic, and, if possible, violent. Help?

[Anonymous No.16448023]

>>16445697
If I had to point to one thing I would say it's the sudden appeal to the wookiepedia style fanboy. The person who trowels through wikis like a troglodyte, pouring over every nuance and piece of information they can to have it in an itemized list they can use to flaunt how much they know to other losers. Sanderson for instance, he does nothing interesting on a character or world level, it's all his in depth magic systems that brings him fame. To me when I read fantasy I crave mystery and adventure, having long blocks of text on every page dedicated to explaining utterly everything does the exact opposite. But it makes those aforementioned troglodytes very happy.

[Anonymous No.16448054]

>>16448023
So your problem is the appeal to those with OCPD, autism, and similar problems?

[Anonymous No.16448057]

>>16448023
you're missing out

[Anonymous No.16448061]

>>16447734
Please reconsider your persecution complex.

[Anonymous No.16448070]

>>16448057
That's untrue on any meaningful way.

[Anonymous No.16448162]

>line lengths are all different
I fucking hate books bros.

[Anonymous No.16448390]

>>16448162
Try to be less mentally ill.

[Anonymous No.16448485]

>>16447974
jack womack - random acts of senseless violence

[Anonymous No.16448517]

>>16448023
It also has that disgusting nu-liberal tone throughout that brings you right out of anything they're trying to immerse you in, renfaire neolibs.

[Anonymous No.16448606]

>>16445734
I really like Peter Fehervari, I think he puts out the best 40k books that aren't part of long running series. Aside from that there's a chart on the lit wikia on 40k novels worth reading so give it a look

Are we allowed to post our own science fiction here? I'm trying to get into writing it after having a setting in my brain for months but I'm painfully bad and would really enjoy some critique if anyones willing

[Anonymous No.16448618]

>>16448606
Do whatever you want, not like anyone can do anything about it.

[Anonymous No.16448624]

>>16447974
Spaceman of Bohemia
Flowers of Algernon

[Anonymous No.16448638]

>>16448618
cheers
https://pastebin.com/Ppct4jcX

I've gotten feedback on it being pretty confused in the action, I'm writing a lot daily but this is what I've edited the most. I really like writing stuff like this but reading it back is a different matter

[Anonymous No.16448656]

>>16448638
wtf is a technicolor, its some type of tv or something innit but zoomers aren't gonna ge tthat

[Anonymous No.16448693]

>>16448054
Unironically yes to an extent. Autists fawn over that kind of rigid organization, but I certainly dont.
>>16448517
This as well. Everything has to be politically correct to some extent. You can argue about it being fantasy and how views of sex and race can be different but it always comes off as pandering in a way that frustrates me more than I enjoy it. Saying this as a bisexual man, too.

[Anonymous No.16448826]

>>16448638
Never post again.

[Anonymous No.16448834]

>>16448693
>Saying this as a bisexual man, too.
This provides no value.

[Anonymous No.16448846]

>>16448638
Not too bad honestly, needs some spit and polish for flow and you could stand to cut down on some of the terms like technicolor and computational. Maybe that's just me, but I prefer shorty and punchier words for tense scenes. A little less description, a little more forward momentum could go a long way. That's just my two cents though, I might be a total brainless faggot.

[Anonymous No.16448853]

>>16448834
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.16448868]

>>16448656
Well I never knew a television company had the same name, but it just means pretty garish colours after a look in the dictionary. I didn't really have zoomers in mind

>>16448826
will do boss

>>16448846
I had it a ton more jargony initially since I was trying to get as much of my setting into the scene as possible and those two words feel like layovers. I like your advice a lot though, I feel the same way, I'll try to keep it short and punchier in the future for things like this, and I tried way too hard with the descriptions. Thanks pal, I'll try to work on the sense of momentum

[Anonymous No.16448889]

>>16445697
To me it's trying to distance itself from classic fantasy, so instead of evoking the epic poems and fairy tales of the distant past, it just copies things that evoked them before, diluting the fantastical elements into a neat little box of stupidly explained faux science garbage.

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.16448916]

>>16448868
Technicolor means to boomers what the color saturation of Samsung displays means to zoomers.
It seems a likely candidate for obsoletion soon.

[Anonymous No.16448917]

>>16447665
>I was only pretending, I'm not that new guise

[Anonymous No.16448928]

>>16448868
I've fallen into the trap of trying to relay too much information into a scene as well. What I've found is that you can trust readers to be dropped information when appropriate, people check out pretty quick when you info dump but dont engage them first. Not everything g has to be explained right away, for me, part of the fun with sf and f is being able to learn things over the course of the book, and a hint of mystery is always cool. Keep it up, you'll get there soon anon.

[Anonymous No.16448935]

>>16448868
> I pick random words and use them without knowing what they mean

[Anonymous No.16448952]

>>16448853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y3xh8gs24c

[Anonymous No.16448966]

>>16448889
>it isn't copying Tolkien
>it is bad

[Anonymous No.16448985]

>>16448966
I hope to God people stop copying that absolute fraud.

[Anonymous No.16448994]

Is Mistborn representative of Sanderson's other work?

Also, started out on Malazan, and this shit is fucking great.

[Anonymous No.16449035]

>>16448985
A lot of modern fantasy doesn't touch shitty Tolkien.

[Anonymous No.16449043]

>>16448994
Lmaooo dude also just started on that shit

[Anonymous No.16449095]

>>16448162
this is actually better for reading. i wish i could get some of my apps to not justify lines.

[Anonymous No.16449129]

>>16449035
People keep paying lip service to him and it's still fucking disgusting.

[Anonymous No.16449147]

>>16448928
thanks pal, I'll try to work on that, but it's been a pretty consistent theme in what I've written so far. I guess I get scared if I don't get it out quickly the reader won't bother to keep going but you're absolutely right, I feel the same way when reading good scifi, I appreciate the advice, I'll keep it up

[Anonymous No.16449251]

>>16445734
The 40k universe has taken the best of Dune, Foundation, Starship Troopers, Lovecraft, Judge Dredd, Sharpe, Flashmann, and a lot of other sources to build a crazy hyperviolent grimdark wasteland of Religion, Eldritch Horror, and Low brow chainsaw sword action. Highly entertaining.

The first three books in the horus heresy series are actually a homage to Shakespeare's Julis Ceaser.

Don't take to too seriously, but Dan Abnett, Aaron Debonski-Bowden and Chris Wright are my favorite of the modern 40k/30k authors.

Witness ADB write a character in the novel Armageddon so bad ass he yells another character back to life.

[Anonymous No.16449266]

>>16449129
Tolkien was the Sanderson of the 1900s. Better believe in 100 years people will still be talking about Sanderson (his fans will make sure it happens).
In the future it will be Sanderson, Star wars, Tolkien and Harry Potter fandoms.

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.16449317]

>>16449266
The other three items in that set managed to cross the boundary between genre and whatever it is that normie herds consume, which caused an influx of those normie cattle to cross back over that boundary into the genre and begin cropping the forage back to the bare roots. Has Sanderson had that same appeal? I was under the impression that he was just a generational extension of Jardan, who was himself a Tolkien copycat.

[Anonymous No.16449325]

>>16449251
ADB is by far the best writer they have in my opinion. He's a genuinely good SFF author.
After reading the Nightlords Trilogy i found it really hard to read any WH books by any other authors because they are terrible even in comparison to other sff writers and so if you arent a 40k lore nerd they are painful to read. Abnett is a serviceable writer but i wouldnt go beyond that.

[Anonymous No.16449326]

>>16449266
Idk about Sanderson. He's popular now but that doesn't mean he has staying power. I feel like even Harry Potter has faded now that kids aren't growing up with it. Of course I'm sure kids still read HP but there isn't all the hype from waiting for the new book and new movies etc. Zoomers think HP is more of a millenial thing. Hype fades.

[Anonymous No.16449337]

>>16445697
The only people who write fantasy are fantasy readers.

[Anonymous No.16449360]

>>16449266
The closest sanderson will get to having a movie or TV series, which is what matters, is if they adapt his wot stuff.

[Anonymous No.16449367]

>>16449337
Abercrombie constantly says he doesn't read fantasy any longer.

[Anonymous No.16449373]

>>16449317
No, he hasn't.

[Anonymous No.16449410]

>>16449266
It depends on how much of the Cosmere thing he finishes. If he manages to finish or come remotely close to finishing his like 40 book planned epic, then yeah he'll be regarded as one of the best for decades to come. He'll be the golden standard of "modern" fantasy, or whatever they end up calling it 50 years from now.

However, that is only assuming he actually finishes or near finishes what he's god planned. As is he's already a decade behind schedule and he's only written like 25% of what he planned.

He's still got 2 more eras of Mistborn (6-8 books), finishing this era and doing the second in the SA books (6+), and the 2 sequels to Elantris/Warbreaker (4), on top of shit that he hasn't even started like the Dragonsteel series about Hoid, and the other 2 unnamed series he planned on the other planets. He's still literally 25+ books away from being done.

Even for a guy that writes as fast as he does that's still a solid 20 years of writing ahead of us, and that's assuming he doesn't really take any time off to do his side books (which is already happening) or working on screenplays for movie/tv adaptions (which is already happening).

[Anonymous No.16449413]

>>16448693
>Everything has to be politically correct to some extent.
Unless you read chinkfiction.
Just read a fantasy "future" story where the continent with lots of real world races lived together in disharmony and infighting with their lingua franca being hebrew while the ethnically homogeneous chinese state was more advanced and propped them up as a buffer against the big bads to give them time to retreat/shore up their defenses.

[Anonymous No.16449417]

>>16449266
Sanderson and HP will be the first to be forgotten, 2 decades tops and they'll be footnotes. Tolkien unfortunately will survive for a while, but I don't think he'll ever be as relevant as he was a few years back. Star Wars will never fucking die.

[Anonymous No.16449438]

>>16443837
>>16443846
I have only recently gotten into dresden files and I don't remember most of what happened in the books, like I remember the most important events but most other info and stories somehow just didn't make it into long term storage.

[Anonymous No.16449445]

>>16449417
Why do people like star wars so much?

[Anonymous No.16449471]

>>16449445
Very easy mass appeal and a giant marketing machine.

[Anonymous No.16449494]

>>16449251
>>16449325
If I enjoyed Abnett's Eisenhorn and Gaunts series because they need no prior 40k knowledge, where should I get into the works of ADB? I'm not all that interested in all the backlore and Horus stuff, more want to enjoy stories that stand on their own in this insane universe.

[Anonymous No.16449505]

>>16449410
How the ever-loving fuck does Sanderson shit out so much? I know his prose is super simple, layman-style (and he said he writes that way on purpose) but jesus christ, the dude is pumping out books at almost Stephen King levels.

[Anonymous No.16449517]

>>16449505
His Mormon work ethic compels him.

[Anonymous No.16449523]

>>16449494
I'd recommend first heretic and his night lords trilogy then, I've read some more stuff from him but that felt the most self contained, and in a word, good

[Anonymous No.16449532]

>>16445734
Still waiting for the media project that introduces WH40K into the mainstream.

[Anonymous No.16449552]

>>16449532
Stop being so fat

[Anonymous No.16449572]

>>16449505
He's said it before in his lectures; he treats it like a job as opposed to most other writers who treat it like a hobby they focus on.
What that means is he's essentially in his 'office' or whatever at 9am till 5pm monday through friday writing.
Most authors that shit out a ton of books like him or King or Koontz are the ones that treat it fully like a job.
The ones that only come out with a book every few years but they're all really great books are the ones that treat it more like a hobby and write 'when the inspiration comes'.

[Anonymous No.16449588]

>>16449266
>>16449417
If Sanderson sells his IP to Disney he will live on forever. The mouse will ensure it.

[Anonymous No.16449604]

>>16445685
Loving Malazan lads
Just started the first book and I haven't enjoyed fantasy this much in ages.

[Anonymous No.16449612]

>>16449604
WITNESS!!!

[Anonymous No.16449625]

>>16449588
He's already sold the rights to others.

[Anonymous No.16449649]

>>16449604
The second book is the best book in the series. You’re gonna have fun.

[Anonymous No.16449670]

>>16449625
But was it the mouse or one of it's shadow puppets?

[Anonymous No.16449834]

>>16447615
LEAVE
THE
CLOSET

[Anonymous No.16449846]

>>16447589
No it isn't, roastie.

[Anonymous No.16449849]

>>16449413
Chinkfiction is just another brand of propaganda usually, and poorly translated to boot.

[Anonymous No.16449859]

>>16447603
>That is a good thing. Who wants to read about you letting bad guys go because "killing is bad", then the bad guy comes back and kills someone else for you. Fuck that shit. I'm fed up of American sensibilities in fucking fiction "don't kill them, they can be redeemed". This isn't fucking comic books. You trespass on my life or continued existence, you lose yours. You fucking "black and white" morality fags need to neck yourselves. You've ruined fantasy. That shit belongs in YA shit, if you wanna read that, go ahead.

[Anonymous No.16449869]

>>16449834
Closest closet cloisters clowns.

[Anonymous No.16449919]

Tolkien was a prude. Poul Anderson is the real chad.

[Anonymous No.16450080]

>>16449494
Nightlords is the best Warhammer trilogy. Its one of the few WH books i have read that would have readers even if it wasnt affiliated with the WH universe.

[Anonymous No.16450154]

Kaladin vs szeth was pure kino

[Anonymous No.16450332]

>>16449604
Also just started it and I'm very into it so far. I wish they did more to clarify how the gods or magic works but at the same time getting to piece those things together chapter by chapter is part of the fun I suppose

[Anonymous No.16450662]

>>16448985
>Fraud
Can you explain what you mean by that?

[Anonymous No.16450678]

>>16445711
Yeah. Trying to do a ton of short stories and then I'll create a multiverse.

[Anonymous No.16450686]

>let me greenpost someone's entire comment with a macro
>contributing anything at all

[Anonymous No.16450751]

>>16449505
I wish he would take his time. He has some brilliant ideas but his writing is generally poor. Im guessing it's because the pace and lack of proper editing time. His WOT books were of a higher quality compared to his usual stuff (maybe because Mrs Jordan's supervision).

[Anonymous No.16450752]

>>16450662
Hack.

[Anonymous No.16450828]

>>16450686
>>let me greenpost someone's entire comment with a macro
>>contributing anything at all

[Anonymous No.16450964]

>>16450752
Oh, you're just shitposting

[Anonymous No.16450969]

>>16450332
>I wish they did more to clarify how the gods or magic works but at the same time getting to piece those things together chapter by chapter is part of the fun I suppose
And it builds as it goes. The way Erikson gradually reveals the magic of his world is really great because it keeps showing there's depths below even what you thought you already understood, until you finally get to the bottom in book 9.

[Anonymous No.16450985]

Heinlein is fucking based and his books are kino.

[Anonymous No.16451059]

>>16449849
Webnovels aren't heavily scrutinized by the chinks so any censorship they face is mostly arbitrary as fuck.
That said a few of them are ridiculously propagandistic over China #1 to the point of parody.

[Anonymous No.16451681]

Hello page 8 my old friend.

[Anonymous No.16451715]

>>16448994
>>16449043
>>16449604
>”Snake indeed, the man’s a killer, a soldier who’s reached the next level in the art of murder. Not just a job anymore, this man likes it. She wondered then if it wasn’t this energy, this quiet promise of menace, that swept over her with the flavor of sexual tension. Tattersail sighed. A day for perversity.”

what’s with the BBC cuck porn in literally like the second chapter? I can’t handle how there’s these black guys. I’m just gonna imagine them white, fuck it.

[Anonymous No.16451754]

>>16451715
>I can't read book unless it's white human male
Kys

[Anonymous No.16451788]

>>16451715
lmao tatters lover dies in one page wtf are you on about

[Anonymous No.16451794]

>>16451754
Yes

[Anonymous No.16451802]

>>16451788
Yeah but he’s described as being a small diminutive wh*te boi

[Anonymous No.16451812]

>>16451715
Steven Erikson is a known cuckold and black lives matter supporter

[Anonymous No.16451896]

>>16451812
Better than worshipping a soiboi that offed himself.

[Anonymous No.16451915]

>>16451896
What?

[Anonymous No.16451941]

>>16446242
dark forest
I listened to the trilogy on audible.
pretty gud

[Anonymous No.16451951]

>>16447108
narnia much deeper in its philososphy / meta

[Anonymous No.16451961]

>>16445685
Someone IRL recommended this to me. First boook was okay, but the main character was worryingly hyper competent and her only flaw appears to be being a stickler for rules (except it actually helps her).
Is the series worth following through?

[Anonymous No.16452218]

>>16451961
David Weber..David Weber
Hey..T.I.P.
(You know yo folk be stayin down on the rode man
rollin all the way from Florida, M.I.A.
on up to duevall on up to Tennesse.....

[Anonymous No.16452269]

>>16452218
Based schizo

[Anonymous No.16452373]

/lit/ tourist here, so apologies if this question is well-trod ground around these parts. What do we think about the Dune series at large? I just read the first book and found it intriguing, and am considering going further into the series. The first book's reputation precedes itself, but I've never heard all that much about those that follow. Shall I keep reading? What about the Herbert son's continuations? Open to any related remarks.

[Anonymous No.16452406]

[Anonymous No.16452429]

>>16452373
>>16452406
oof

[Anonymous No.16452558]

>>16452406
Thanks! Maybe I'll end up being a golden boy.

[Anonymous No.16452591]

>>16449251
>The 40k universe has taken the best of Dune, Foundation, Starship Troopers, Lovecraft, Judge Dredd, Sharpe, Flashmann, and a lot of other sources to build a crazy hyperviolent grimdark wasteland of Religion, Eldritch Horror, and Low brow chainsaw sword action. Highly entertaining.
The manchild who typed this thought this sounded enthralling and "badass".

[Anonymous No.16452888]

>big ol' feelio dealio when you're the only one in the world reading the book you're reading
what are some good "new release"... sites? I don't even know what I'm looking for but Amazon's recommended and new release search kind of sucks in of itself.

[Anonymous No.16452894]

Books about cunnies.

[Anonymous No.16453247]

>>16451915
That's our resident in-the-closet-anti-Conanfag. He's a homosexual who refuses to admit he is one so takes his anger out on a fictional character and his long dead creator because every time Conan is brought up, or a picture of him is posted, he becomes aroused and then disgusted with himself for that arousal.

[Anonymous No.16453267]

>>16453247
I'm also an anti-Conan poster. Puerile power fantasy by a closeted homosexual; the reason why REH shelved Kull and came up with Conan is that some editor probably made him to.

It's very clear that Kull's lack of interest towards women reflected REH's own.

[Anonymous No.16453314]

>>16453247
I am not anti-conan, I haven't read it yet. I'm excited for it but I have a couple of series I want to get through before I start.

[Anonymous No.16453406]

>>16452888
I go to book stores and look at the shelves. B&N and used book stores both. Also occasionally pick up stuff I see talked about in /sffg/. I haven't liked everything /sffg/ convinced me to try but overall I've had better luck with series I picked up from here than any other method. Randomly picking stuff off shelves is about 50/50 which isn't that bad raelly, but /sffg/ is consistently better than random luck so I've come to rely on this place.

[Anonymous No.16453456]

>>16453267
LEAVE
THE
CLOSET

[Anonymous No.16453533]

>>16451788
Never read past the first book, but isn't tattersall a known slut? She didn't spend much time lamenting the death of the twink mage she'd been wrestled with for months, then fucked that soiboi captain literally seconds after their first meeting because he had a cute puppy face.

[Anonymous No.16453537]

started reading this a couple weeks ago and im on Lady of the Lake now, this series is kinda wack lads
the world is cool but 99% of the characters are flat out retarded and ciri is way too huge of a mary sue

[Anonymous No.16453546]

>>16446242
Dark forest is interesting at least to me as someone who is not that deep into sf, maybe it has been done before but i really enjoyed it

[Anonymous No.16453549]

Fuck I've never read genre fiction since my childhood days (YA mostly back then) but damn The Fellowship of the Ring is amazing. Was I meme by /lit/ into thinking genre fictions are trash or LOTR is just that much better than the rest?

[Anonymous No.16453565]

>>16453247
>>16453267
>>16453314
Lmao I thought we were talking about Malazan, you joggers are crazy

[Anonymous No.16453567]

>>16453549
LoTR is kind of an outlier, there's a good reason it pretty much set the standard for fantasy and why pretty much everything that came after it took heavy inspiration from it (if not blatantly ripping it off).
That being said there is plenty of good genre fiction out there, just nothing that's come out in the past decade.

[Anonymous No.16453571]

>>16453549
You should read more yourself instead of forming opinions based on the what others say

[Anonymous No.16453598]

With winter just around the corner does anyone have any recs for books set predominantly in the winter or just any cold snowy region in general?
Fantasy or sci-fi are both acceptable.

[Anonymous No.16453604]

>>16453537
That's because Sapkowski is a hack plagiarist. The games were better than the books.

[Anonymous No.16453638]

>>16453567
I thought so. It really open me to try out more fantasy works though. Is there anything with the same comfy feels, preferably among nature like LoTR.

[Anonymous No.16453664]

Just been through a rough breakup.
Anyone know anything good about a human male (protag) and female alien/AI falling in love?
Doesn't need to be heavy on the coom. Just need something to fill the void for a while.

[Anonymous No.16453671]

>>16447608
The series was ok.

[Anonymous No.16453680]

>>16453664
The Trials of Young Werther

[Anonymous No.16453687]

>>16447907
As if chinks didn't post anti CCP stuff. Obviously he meant what you can say IRL to people who aren't your close family, what you can publish under your own name, etc.

[Anonymous No.16453701]

>>16453664
Enders game series on ironically

[Anonymous No.16453860]

>>16445685
Any books like SOMA?

[Anonymous No.16453898]

>>16453598
My Swordhand Is Singing
Kid fights vampires alongside his gypsy waifu somewhere in Eastern Europe during the winter

[Anonymous No.16454024]

>>16453604
>The games were better than the books.
this is probably true but the reason i'm reading the books in the first place is because when i tried to play the games it was just non stop references to book characters and events, so you can just tell youre missing out on a shit ton of lore by skipping them

[Anonymous No.16454042]

>>16445697
A generation of writers who grew up on video games who think systems are the ends rather than the means. Things like Dungeons and Dragons used systems because they had no other way to translate magic into a gameplay formula, not because the system itself was the desired outcome.
Then there's writers who write nothing but fucking LitRPGs where EVERYTHING is a literal video game system.
You can even see the effect of this in books which aren't video game shit that don't focus on magic systems, in writers getting sidetracked into elaborate and highly descriptive action scenes which go on way too long and aren't remotely interesting, because they're designed to show off the character's prowess within the system of combat the story has set up.
Making everything a system just makes everything awful.

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.16454050]

OT: Which board would you find an EDC thread on? I need a new wallet.

[Anonymous No.16454092]

Do you think that Dune is friendly for those who want to get into reading through science fiction?

[Anonymous No.16454208]

>>16454050
/k/ does EDC threads pretty often

[Anonymous No.16454274]

>>16454092
Id say it is, give the first book a try, its well written and has an interesting political setting. If you dont like the first book dont bother with the rest.

[Anonymous No.16454284]

>>16453598
Early Riser

[Anonymous No.16454292]

Thoughts on this trope in Fantasy?

[Anonymous No.16454406]

>>16454292
love it. family is undervalued in modern society and people are hesitant tho have children or form long lasting relationships. its great in fiction though.

[Anonymous No.16454409]

any rec?
Im halfway through As I lay dying, and I find myself reading a few pages then digesting. Im looking for whatever, preferably not too complicated, something I can read on yom kipur to pass the time.

[Anonymous No.16454430]

>>16454042
Hard magic system is a natural evolution of fantasy. With defined laws/rules of magic it is more consitent and not complete ass pull as it is with soft magic systems. Get over it.

[Anonymous No.16454445]

>>16454430
the more 'hard' the magic get, the farther from reality it is. Real word occultism and subconscious is never hard, it's soft. I like the dream logic of soft fantasy - obviously crows can speak, and obviously their favourite treat is pickled slugs - and if you'll pickle them in red salt, theyll speak of murder.

[Anonymous No.16454450]

>>16454430
Shit writing is shit writing regardless of how you set up magic in the setting.

[Anonymous No.16454454]

>>16454445
>the more 'hard' the magic get, the farther from reality it is
Wow imagine that, a fantasy series that strays from reality. Wouldn't want things to get too exciting or we might upset the insufferable bores like you.

[Anonymous No.16454463]

>>16454454
I never said that was bad though?
I prefer it a medium long distance from reality, cus then I can pretend the fantasy can happen in real life. Hard to pretend I can ingest metals and fly.

[Anonymous No.16454467]

>>16454409
preferably a comfy rec?
Im feeling something like some guy goes to kill the usual dragon/whatever, only no dark brooding and not just action. something comfy.

[Anonymous No.16454487]

>>16445728
look into the chemistry, read a bit about inclusions and chemicals and just go wild with that. No need to go really deep, just to give your magic a hidden layer of knowledge and logic.

[Anonymous No.16454493]

>>16445728
As for where to find the information - wikipedia will suffice.
For the inspiration - read Houseli no Kuni

[Anonymous No.16454499]

>>16454493
>houseki

[Anonymous No.16454502]

>>16454445
Real world occultism is dumb, if a character can't even conjure a tiny fireball with magic (or any other small but identifiable and verifiable physical phenomenon) then it is not magic but delusions of an occultist.

[Anonymous No.16454506]

>>16454502
t. never had a manic episode
You just have to believe hard enough anon

[Anonymous No.16454507]

>>16454274
>>16454092
Yes, and read two first books. The first one needs the closure second one provides.

[Anonymous No.16454526]

>>16451715
The writer’s a huge liberal faggot, he also wrote tirades against Conan at length and has a character meant to show how horrible Conan would be ”realistically”. (naturally it ends up one of the few mildly interesting characters)

[Anonymous No.16454533]

>>16445685
stop posting these cringe images on my board can you fuck off with your general to reddit

[Anonymous No.16454539]

>>16454092
Only the first book.
Later books sperg out over politics and worse.

[Anonymous No.16454542]

>>16454526
You sound butthurt about some flavor-of-the-month shit author. Stop posting and start reading, cocksuck

[Anonymous No.16454546]

>>16454539
You're a tard if you don't think the sociopolitical message of Dune is the most important theme in the book series. Messiah is the best book in the series.

[Anonymous No.16454559]

>>16454526
Conan has always, and will always, trigger the söy.

[Anonymous No.16454564]

>>16454542
Malazan’s been flavor of the month for more than a few months.
It’s also not a great series once you’re a few novels into it.

[Anonymous No.16454571]

>>16454564
>Malazan’s been flavor of the month for more than a few months
It's a couple of shit taste fucks that keep pushing it.

>>16454559
You sound triggered too cocksucker.

[Anonymous No.16454578]

>>16454546
>sociopolitical message of Dune
Isn’t important at all.
Which is why so many of the later books suck dick.

[Anonymous No.16454581]

>>16454578
Even on an anonymous forum, why out yourself as a retard?

[Anonymous No.16454582]

>>16454571
You are gay, anon.

[Anonymous No.16454584]

>>16454582
Are you the Hugo tranny mentally ill weirdo by any chance?

[Anonymous No.16454596]

>>16454584
Yes.

[Anonymous No.16454603]

>>16454596
My condolences. Stop talking about Conan, you're making everyone who likes it look bad.

Thanks for understanding.

[Anonymous No.16454803]

>>16450985
heinlein is neofascist coomerbait

[Anonymous No.16454844]

>>16454467
riftwar saga is pretty damn comfy. Feist can't write for shit but he can tell a story (even if it was just stolen from his D&D sessions with friends)

[Anonymous No.16454857]

>>16454092
Those are some cute critters wtf

[Anonymous No.16454888]

>>16454274
The political issue is quite good

[Anonymous No.16455152]

>>16454050
/g/ does edc. But it's mostly watches, flashdrives and guns. The /fa/gs might do one too.

[Anonymous No.16455199]

>>16453537
I liked Regis.

[Anonymous No.16455207]

Fuck I hate pol. They are trying to push a shit series with a homosapien augmented onto an Annelida as the best shit ever. They only like it because of it's shit politics. They are telling new people to continue after the shit dated first book until they reach a particular book 6 deep in a series. Fucking pieces of shit fucking up the general.

I'm sure they are also the imaginationlets who don't like real magic (fantastical shit) because it's too divorce from real life. Fantasy must match reality. That is why you read fantasy, to experience real life.

[Anonymous No.16455228]

>>16455199
same, he's one of the very few characters in the series that isn't terrible and annoying to read

[Anonymous No.16455267]

>>16455207
Dune isn't a specifically /pol/ series.

[Anonymous No.16455380]

>>16455207
>/pol/ is one person
I am /pol/ and I like magic and fantasy

[Anonymous No.16455480]

>>16455380
Would you put on a cute dress and let me turn you into a magical girl?....

[Anonymous No.16455495]

I'm late by 200 hundred posts. Was away for a while. Just finished reading the entire old post, gonna start reading this new one just now... But first...
Fuck e william brown fucking 2 years and nothing. Paywall baiter piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.16455532]

>>16455480

[Anonymous No.16455553]

>>16454803

[Anonymous No.16455591]

>>16445734
Pic rel is 30k, a sort of backstory to 40k, it's still p good but some of the books make me want to hang the writers.
40k books are worth it imo, I started with the Yarrick Omnibus and the Ahriman Omnibus, I recommend both of them.

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.16456007]

>>16455152
>>16454208
Thanks, gents.

>>16454409
>Yom Kippur
The only recommendation I have for Jews and shabbos goy is to GTFO.

[Anonymous No.16456053]

>>16445685

nice image. love me some whellan stuff.

[Anonymous No.16456211]

>>16456007
A tripfag and a pol-tard. Your mum sure has to regret the thing she has brought upon this world.

[Anonymous No.16456284]

>>16449367
And consequently, despite being a grimdark edgelord, I’d say his fantasy is among some of the best at the moment.

[Anonymous No.16456344]

>>16456284
Abercrombie pls go

[Anonymous No.16456376]

>>16445741
>good use of chekhov's guns, satisfying pay offs
>good use of rule of cool
>proper and fresh world building

think of Bleach but with better worldbuilding and writing

[Anonymous No.16456570]

First page of a short story I'm writing after stupidly falling out of the habit for some time. How's the prose?

https://pastebin.com/ChJ5nVCZ

[Anonymous No.16456625]

>>16456376
But bleach was shit.

[Anonymous No.16456634]

>>16453860
The Jean le Flambeur Series deals a lot with the theme that is the main theme of SOMA exploring different aspects of it, but it isn't that much of a horror story.

[Anonymous No.16456844]

Is this just going to be miserable and depressing?

[Anonymous No.16456878]

>>16456625
Bleach was pretty good.

[Anonymous No.16456911]

>>16456625

nah, im not talking about the quality (although bleach was one of the best in its genre), but about style: comic-book'y, tons of epic scenes, characters with bigass weapons and overall action.

SA is basically shonen manga in text form with better plot and world building. It even felt like that while reading.

[Anonymous No.16457174]

controversial? or is he right?

[Anonymous No.16457188]

>>16457174
Tolkien is shit but Mieville is worse. Now stop reposting this shit.

[Anonymous No.16457200]

>>16457174
>let me post this shit every thread until people start reporting me for spam bait

[Anonymous No.16457722]

Any fantasy that takes inspiration from The Inklings?

[Anonymous No.16457806]

>>16457722
Splatoon

[Anonymous No.16457898]

>>16447688
I like it so far, trisolarians (trisolaryans) rise up

[Anonymous No.16457900]

>>16456844
The series is not even finished.

[Anonymous No.16458078]

>>16456844
Yes, that's what makes it wonderful.

[Anonymous No.16458199]

>>16449417
>Tolkien unfortunately will survive for a while
Why is this unfortunate. LoTR and The Hobbit will probably survive another 100 years because they're good. They won't be popular like the newest shiny thing but they're classics (fuck the movies).

[Anonymous No.16458357]

>>16458199
The Hobbit was the only good thing Tolkien wrote.

[Anonymous No.16458376]

>>16455207
>That is why you read fantasy, to experience real life.
Are trannies really THIS retarded?

[Anonymous No.16458385]

>>16454603
Nice try, closet-kun.

[Anonymous No.16458387]

>>16458376
anon, it's bait.

[Anonymous No.16458429]

>>16458376
Read the post again, readlet no comprehension faggot. Those low magic / unexplained magic fags are the ones that want fantasy to be like real life. Read the entire thread and see what retards actually believe before misinterpreting a post.

[Anonymous No.16458464]

>>16458429
>unexplained magic fags
That is the complete opposite of real life, tardo. Explaining magic away as a system is what the 'fantasy needs to be more like real life' queers want.

[Anonymous No.16458482]

>>16458464
dilate

[Anonymous No.16458493]

>>16445685
Why is Sanderson's writing so boring? Is it his use of adverbs or something? I picked up that Mistborn book and it reads like Young Adult Fantasy, which I'm sure is the point. I read a bit from The Way of Kings and it was the same thing.

Is this the future of Fantasy?

[Anonymous No.16458504]

>>16458493
>Is this the future of Fantasy?
This has been the standard of Fantasy for a while now, anon.

[Anonymous No.16458519]

>>16457174
Mieville is a retarded idpol SJW-fag.
Unironically the kind of 'tard you find on twitter.

[Anonymous No.16458534]

>>16458493
>Is this the future of Fantasy?
Nah, the future of fantasy writing is clearly chink.
Not even being ironic either, they're the only enjoyment I get out of the genre anymore outside of re-reading older stuff.
Western fantasy has just gone to absolute shit now that the soys and women decided it was worth infiltrating and destroying.

[Anonymous No.16458546]

>>16458504
It sucks. It's just tumblr schlock for teens to ship and do fuck all with. Create a personality based on shitty characters. It's just too funny!

[Anonymous No.16458560]

>>16447734
Not really.

[Anonymous No.16458606]

>>16458534
>>>/pol/
Why don't you go and post about how asian women are superior to white women for a tradition family.

[Anonymous No.16458610]

>>16458606
>Why don't you go and post about how asian women are superior to white women for a tradition family.
>>>/lgbt/

[Anonymous No.16458619]

>>16458610
come out the closet and dilate

[Anonymous No.16458631]

Why aren't /pol/-tards staying in their containment board?

[Anonymous No.16458725]

>>16458606
>>16458631
You can fuck off back to whatever shitty site spawned you. Gaia, Plebbit, whatever.
I've been on this board since it was 90% Ayn Rand memespam and wrote some of the earliest recommendation lists for the pre-general fantasy threads here and on /tg/ before the threads there got banned.

I doubt even you massive offsite-faggots could name a single decent rec written in the last five years.

[Anonymous No.16458789]

>>16458619
>>16458631
>>>/lgbt/

[Anonymous No.16458805]

>>16458789
Why yes, I do read mistborn for the massively male boner mentor character. My favourite cross dressing fantasy is dressing as the mist girl protagonist, wearing dresses that are just comely and provincial enough to wow the jazed city beauties, with their entrenched thousands years of fashion.
thank you for pointing out that I can also use the /lgbt/ board, but I was already aware of that.

[Anonymous No.16458817]

>>16458725
>I'm an oldfag
>I still get butthurt

[Anonymous No.16458823]

>>16458725
name a decent rec then

[Anonymous No.16458856]

>>16458823
Of what you flaming faggot?
Old Western fantasy?
New Chink Fantasy?
Because there's none to be found in new western fantasy.

[Anonymous No.16458858]

>>16456570
you're trying too hard to be fancy

[Anonymous No.16458863]

>>16458725
Unproven Oldfaggotry doesn't give you the right to post /pol/-bait outside of the containment board. You look like one of those faggots who joined after gamergate or the Trump election, since thread on 4chan got /pol/arized afterwards. Nobody cares about your hatred of women/sjws/jews/niggas. Instead of 'muh fantasy got ruined because of (((them)))', post a proper reasoning why old fantasy or asspull-chink fantasy is any better.

[Anonymous No.16458871]

>>16455495
stop being ppor

[Anonymous No.16458880]

>>16458856
?
> I doubt even you massive offsite-faggots could name a single decent rec written in the last five years.
>implying
do (you) have a decent rec?

[Anonymous No.16458912]

>>16458725
I wish A** Rand was still a bannable offense. A week with you banned would do wonders for the general.

[Anonymous No.16458940]

>>16458871
>pay 5 bux a month for one single chapter
>but lolz, I might not give you what you actually wanna read, I will slip in shit you don't want for 4 months straight just to barely meet my quota'd requirement.

[Anonymous No.16458962]

>>16457806
Kek

[Anonymous No.16458972]

>>16458863
There's no /pol/ bait there you retarded offsite faggot.
Fact is the publishers went to shit, largely because of the identity politics of old hags and fags, a fairly well known fact that gets mentioned in this thread every so often. (not that the publishers like TOR tend to hide it, they used to semi-publicly bully Baen's owners because of their libertarian views)
Even the nu-western writers admit as much even though they think it's a good thing, Sanderson will tell you to throw in token heroines and fags in your stories and cater them to your agent or it "doesn't deserve to get published" while he's pushing out YA trash like it's going out of style and throwing in out-of-tone anime bullshit when he feels like it. (not that self-publishing has done much for the western releases either)
Now step into traffic and get isekaied you offsite tourist.
>>16458880
Of nu-western fantasy?
No. As I said, it's gone to shit.
Of the old stuff I can recommend a huge chunk of pulps (CAS, Brackett, Leiber, Eddisson, Anderson, Pratt, Machen, Burroughs, Vance, Bellairs, Lanier, Zelazny, Fox etc etc) and most stuff is readable up until the "EPIC" tale of a minimum of five books starts to set in somewhere during the late 90s/early 2000s but you could still get past that until it combined with the nu-YA crowd writers to create the market we have now where nothing of interest gets published and the closest you get to non-YA is some trite crime story with a thin fantasy dressing.
As for chink stuff, depends entirely on tastes. Lord of the Mysteries is a good western-inspired one that recently got finished. Death Sutra and The Human Emperor are managing to hold my interest so far even though the latter has a mediocre start. For straight-up Xianxia there's Fang Xiang.

[Anonymous No.16458993]

>>16458940
So you're complaining that you have to wait to pirate the full book when it gets released. Get a job hippie.

[Anonymous No.16459006]

>>16447549
The critic who creates nothing of his own accord is worth less than the dirt he walks on.

Keep condescending though! Every time you post it signals to everyone around you just how sad and creatively blocked you are yourself. Its good to show people what they risk becoming.

[Anonymous No.16459012]

>>16458972
>xianxia
man, can you actually make yourself sit through that bull? even with a good translator it reads like very nice, very nice book (BOOM!) wow, ten thousands year sage appear!!

[Anonymous No.16459013]

I want some hard sci fi no magic plz

[Anonymous No.16459022]

>>16459013
dark side of dankness

[Anonymous No.16459026]

>>16459013
Are you talking about the Torah?

[Anonymous No.16459045]

>>16459013
Revelation Space

[Anonymous No.16459077]

>>16458493
Yeah, I had the same reaction too. Read the first Mistborn and it was so dull to read through, although the plot being mostly predictable didn't help much either.

Tried to read WoK and the first chapter was decent, but the next had a fight scene that was so horribly written I had to stop right there. He would describe an action and then immediately follow it up with an explanation of what he just described. It's really terrifying how this is seen as some of the best stuff being currently written in the genre.

[Anonymous No.16459085]

>>16458993
I'm complaining that I have to pay for shit I don't want (literal filler) to get the little bit that I do.
You're probably an americlap. You would pay for a literal box just so you can get a chance to pay again for a tv.

[Anonymous No.16459089]

>>16459012
Yes, but it has one of the worst decent to shit ratios than other genres (barring MMORPG stories) due to being the Chinese "default" setting that even the most uninspired hacks can copy by heart. Usually you can tell if they're unbearably shit in the first few chapters thankfully.
The interesting ones are usually the ones that focus on lots of small location stories or just have a writer who actually surprises you with his own take on genre conventions.

[Anonymous No.16459101]

>>16459006
w/e faggot. you aren't going to make it as a writer and your books will be shit anyways.

[Anonymous No.16459109]

>>16459101
aw
and I thought we were going to be friends :(

[Anonymous No.16459113]

>>16458972
just neck urself

[Anonymous No.16459148]

>>16459109
I can just feel it bro!
I will be a best selling author and gain international fame!
That philosophy degree will pay off in the end!

[Anonymous No.16459162]

>>16458464
You are dumb, queers want shitty occult and shitty magic that is just what we have IRL with various brain damaged nu occultists. It is in a way more realistic because it is quite known in crazy women groups and similar circles of degenerates, those are intended readers who want such magic.
What actual /lit/ readers want is a traditional hero and clearly defined magic system though it may not be fully revealed but existing principles behind make it consistent.

[Anonymous No.16459174]

>>16459101
I'm not even the writer anon you originally replied to, you're shouting into the void dummy!

And even then you still can't let go of your own insecurities. "My" books won't make it, sure, but what have you ever done that has influenced literally anyone?

You're assuming that the anon you originally insulted writes for the purpose of being known. Anybody who's created anything knows that you create because you NEED to, not to share with anyone else. You're clearly projecting your own unconscious desire to be known. Which is sad, because nobody will ever care about you. You might think I'm making a baseless judgement here, but anyone who lashes out like you do has some serious problems with themself. I know because you have it even worse than I do.

Life is nothing but suffering when you aren't equipped with the tools to make your own happiness. Learn to appreciate life or end it, anon. You'll be happier either way.

[Anonymous No.16459215]

>>16458972
>Fact is the publishers went to shit, largely because of the identity politics of old hags and fags
To be honest publishing houses got fully taken over by jews, that is why they went completely shit. And yet another reason is that most readers are jews or good goym who will read only jewish approved trash. It is a problem that constantly reinforces itself.

[Anonymous No.16459324]

>>16459162
lol you are so goddamn stupid. Trannies LOVE magic systems and they LOVE "real" fantasy like GOT.

[Anonymous No.16459351]

>>16459324
Dilate conanfag. No one is reading S&S (Sweating-muscles and Sodomy).

[Anonymous No.16459364]

>>16459174
I want to end it all anon. Will you join me?

[Anonymous No.16459463]

>>16459324
GOT getting mainstream success was the beginning of the end.
It's such a shitty set of books too.

[Anonymous No.16459480]

Been reading Way of Kings by Sanderson. I knew he was known for having thoroughly mediocre prose, but damn. There's almost no artistry here at all, and there's just long ass blocks where he's telling and telling and telling about shit. He really feels like the ur example of modern epic fantasy. Everything about it, from long blocks of self-indulgent text full of nonsense words to explanations of magic systems with almost no artistry whatsoever, it really feels like he'd be more at home working in videogames or something. In lieu of anything else to read, and because I'm morbidly curious, I'll probably keep going. Still, it's no wonder anons here are so depressed about the current state of fantasy when he's not just, like, a C lister but THE HOTTEST SHIT in the industry.

[Anonymous No.16459563]

>>16454274
The book is good, I think I will be able to with the others very well.

[Anonymous No.16459720]

>>16459351
LEAVE
THE
CLOSET

[Anonymous No.16459867]

>>16459480
What are some fantasy with good prose but still isn't a chore to read like Gormenghast and such gothic prose? Something like LoTR is perfect

[Anonymous No.16459924]

>>16459867
The Broken Sword

[Anonymous No.16460339]

>>16459867
Try a Stephen R. Donaldson book like Lord Foul's Bane or Seventh Decimate. Or try Gene Wolfe's The Knight/Wizard.

[Anonymous No.16460357]

Anyone here reads Ted Chiang? What would be a good story to start with?

[Anonymous No.16460397]

>>16460357
From which collection or do you mean in general?

[Anonymous No.16460410]

We at page 9.
Slave get to work.

[Anonymous No.16460519]

>>16460410
Eventually you will have to call yourself the slave.

[Anonymous No.16460567]

dresden files on tuesday. im hoping for a better book then the last. not a fan of writing one book, then splitting it in two.

also, just read a short story i somehow missed where harry took his daughter to the zoo, and butters called for help and harry turned him down. the fuck was that, butters has literally always been there for harry, he would never do that, it felt very un dresden like to not help his friend and just say lol god help you since your a knight now. i didnt care for that

[Anonymous No.16460606]

when i read book i think to myself why character no act like how i want act. i know the character better than the author so when they no act like i want they acting wrong. its too bad that i cant let the author know so they could prevent this mistake. it very sad.

[Anonymous No.16460653]

>>16460357
Story of Your Life

[Anonymous No.16460704]

>>16460653
Then watch Arrival.

[Anonymous No.16460786]

Just started midnight tides by erickson.

Do we really need a prequel filled with new characters? I'm getting absolutely lost.

[Anonymous No.16460839]

>>16460786
If you aren't entirely lost, then you aren't having fun.

[Anonymous No.16460933]

>>16460786
Midnight Tides is a contender for my favorite Malazan Book. Bugg and Tehol are a great duo.

[Anonymous No.16460951]

make the new thread FAGGOTS

[Anonymous No.16460975]

>>16460951 "No."

[Anonymous No.16460976]

>>16460975
FUCK YOU THEN

[Anonymous No.16460984]

>>16460976 Glad to be service.

[Anonymous No.16461011]

>>16460984
you DUMB
that's not the way to reply to someone, you must put your answer below

[Anonymous No.16461031]

I'm too high for that
>>16461011
and I'm not going down on you.