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>In January of 1962, Russell received a series of letters from an unlikely correspondent — Sir Oswald Mosley, who had founded the British Union of Fascists thirty years earlier. Mosley was inviting — or, rather, provoking — Russell to engage in a debate, in which he could persuade the moral philosopher of the merits of fascism.
>Shortly before his 90th birthday, Russell writes:
>Dear Sir Oswald,

>Thank you for your letter and for your enclosures. I have given some thought to our recent correspondence. It is always difficult to decide on how to respond to people whose ethos is so alien and, in fact, repellent to one’s own. It is not that I take exception to the general points made by you but that every ounce of my energy has been devoted to an active opposition to cruel bigotry, compulsive violence, and the sadistic persecution which has characterised the philosophy and practice of fascism.

>I feel obliged to say that the emotional universes we inhabit are so distinct, and in deepest ways opposed, that nothing fruitful or sincere could ever emerge from association between us.

>I should like you to understand the intensity of this conviction on my part. It is not out of any attempt to be rude that I say this but because of all that I value in human experience and human achievement.

>Yours sincerely,

>Bertrand Russell

HOLY BASED BERTRAND RUSSELL (PBUH) ABSOLUTELY BTFO'D REACTIONARY RIGHTOID CHUD FUCK C*NTINENTAL """PHILOSOPHY""" FUCK F*SCISM READ COMPLETE WORKS OF RUSSELL (PBUH) MILL (PBUH) BENTHAM (PBUH) MOORE (PBUH) A.J. AYER (PBUH) KEYNES (PBUH) QUINE (PBUH) SINGER (PBUH) EMBRACE SOCIALISM DEMOCRACY AND ANGLO WISDOM

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>>16441029

>> No.16441055

>>16441029
He literally just said his feefee's are too hurt by Fascism to engage intellectually serious with it.

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>>16441029
blessed post...

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>>16441029
>fascism is about being a bigot, persecuting minorities, and genociding people
When will this meme end?
Also most of Britain's history was already like this, so whatever.

>> No.16441075

>>16441055
There can be no engagement with it among men capable of civilised emotion.

>> No.16441087

>>16441075
>There can be no engagement with it among men capable of civilised emotion.
You're literally prejudiced.

>> No.16441088

>>16441055
>feefee's are too hurt
did you read OP's post at all? compared to OP russell is a stone cold fox

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>>16441029
>Peirce himself [1912, 1] severely criticized Russell’s Principles for its shallowness, arguing that the book is sufficient merely to apprise outsiders of the basic concepts of the subject. Writing to Victoria Welby on 1 December 1903, Peirce [1977, 9] again turned the tables on Russell, and declared of the Principles, as we already noted, that "whatever merit it may have as a digest of what others have done, it is pretentious & pedantic, -- attributing to its author merit that cannot be accorded to him".

>As to my algebra of dyadic relations, Russell in his book which is superficial to nauseating to me, has some silly remarks about my "relative addition" etc., which are mere nonsense. He says, or Whitehead says, that the need for it never occurs if you bring in the same mode of connection in any other way. It is part of a system which does not bring in the mode of connection in any other way. In that system it is indispensable. But let us leave Russell and Whitehead to work out their own salvation.

BTFO.

>> No.16441128

>>16441075

how many other one liners can you parrot, marxian?

>> No.16441163

>>16441029
Reminder that Oswald Mosley was considered to be one of the talented politicians of the Labour Party and one of the most fervently devoted to social justice.

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Russell knew he'd resort to emotional arguments and whining so he hid from debate like Sleepy Joe?
Not much has changed

>> No.16441585

I like that time D.H. Lawrence almost made Russell kill himself

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>>16441163
absolutely based

>> No.16441786

>>16441029
Based Russel, arguing with a self-proclaimed Fascist as a normal person is like arguing with a rabid dog.

>> No.16441805

>>16441029
This just means that he doesn't have any arguments.

>> No.16441816

Alright bros, I as a rule take interest in anything that brainlet Russel couldn't grasp. In a way I must credit Russel for being a great compass pointing South. It has led me to Leibniz, Poincare, Peirce, Duns Scot, Husserl, Aquinas, late Wittgenstein.
What should I read to get Mosley? I only know about the beady Anglo eyes.

>> No.16441874

>>16441816
Don't forget Schopenhauer.
>His [Schopenhauer's] pessimism made it possible for men to take to philosophy without having to persuade themselves that all evil can be explained away, and in this way, as an antidote, it was useful. From a scientific point of view, optimism and pessimism are alike objectionable: optimism assumes, or attempts to prove, that the universe exists to please us, and pessimism that it exists to displease us. Scientifically, there is no evidence that it is concerned with us either one way or the other. The belief in either pessimism or optimism is a matter of temperament, not of reason, but the optimistic temperament has been much commoner among Western philosophers. A representative of the opposite party is therefore likely to be useful in bringing forward considerations which would otherwise be overlooked."
Brainlet Russell looks for "scientific evidence" for philosophical arguments and then mistakes philosophical pessimism with common pessimism. Color me surprised.

>> No.16441931

>>16441029
What a retarded take. Basically admitting he'd lose any debate and he knew it.

>> No.16441936

>>16441029
Brother, the amount of based in this post! It's too much!

>> No.16441950

>>16441936
Can't handle it can you, just like Russell couldn't

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Imagine unironically being an*lytical instead of continental

>> No.16443928

>>16441816
Start with Fascism for the Million and Tomorrow We Live

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>be russell
>btfo all of mathematics for hundreds of years with a simple paradox
>be totally authentic
>if doesnt get something isnt afraid to say so
>every sad little basedboy spends days of their life trying to smugly dab on him for it
>mfw

>> No.16444022

Russell is one of the few english ”philosophers” I genuinely don’t understand the hype about.
Like whoa he wrote a biased historical and made some weak rationalizations of his personal views while being an aristocrat who didn’t kill himself in his youth, how novel?

>> No.16444042

>>16441071
>Fascism is about being a bigot. The more bigoted you are, the more fascistier it is.

>> No.16444182

>>16444022
That's because you've never read his philosophy. In fact, it sounds like you've never studied philosophy at all.

>> No.16444232

Jonathan Miller imitating Bertrand Russell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSifxC_L9F0

>> No.16444250

>le wacky elaborate pretext to flee from a fight
No doubt Russell was bullied as a boy.

>> No.16444304

>>16441786
It sounds like you have only argued with strawmen.

>> No.16444312

>>16441055
This

>> No.16444339

>>16441029
Lol. Subtract 30 years and read Russel's open admiration for fascism and communism. Like most intellectuals, he supported strongman to implement his ideas on how people ought to live.

He openly advocated appeasement and only became anti-fascist when public sentiment went completely against the ideology in the wake of WW 2.

>> No.16444344

>>16441055
It really just cements my opinion on Russel even more, he's worthless

>> No.16444375

>>16444339
Imagine being this clueless.

>> No.16444378 [DELETED] 

>>16441029
>emotional universes
That's how much of a "philosopher" Bertrand "better red than dead" was.

>> No.16444385

>>16444344
I bet you couldn't describe a single aspect of Russell's philosophy, pseud. You're not fooling anyone.

>> No.16444388

>>16441029
>emotional universes
That's how much of a "philosopher" Bertrand "better red than dead" Russell was.

>> No.16444394

The man was fucking 90, he probably didn't have the energy to engage in a debate.

>> No.16444417

>>16444375
Imagine thinking that dismissing a claim is the same as disproving it.

>> No.16444421

>>16444417
You are literally a sociopath.

>> No.16444449

>>16444421
t. Redditor

>> No.16444466

>>16444421
Sounds like you're literally seething with another dismissal. Russell was an aristocratic Fabian socialist. He has alot in common with /pol/.

>> No.16444467

>>16444449
Go see a psychiatrist before you hurt someone.

>> No.16444485

>>16444466
I'm just baffled at your sociopathy. You don't even seem to realize what you are.

>> No.16444489

>>16444467
I am the psychiatrist, you silly cockless faggot.

>> No.16444502

>>16444485
Does alleged sociopathy make my claims illegitimate?

Is this babby's first troll? You'll get better someday. You also must be 18 to post.

>> No.16444507

>>16444502
You still don't grasp how you betrayed your own sociopathy. Remarkable.

>> No.16444515

>>16444507
Fuck you cracker. Suck my big dark dick.