/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16427449]

“I am an atheist, out and out. It took me a long time to say it. I've been an atheist for years and years, but somehow I felt it was intellectually unrespectable to say one was an atheist, because it assumed knowledge that one didn't have. Somehow, it was better to say one was a humanist or an agnostic. I finally decided that I'm a creature of emotion as well as of reason. Emotionally, I am an atheist. I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time.”

[Anonymous No.16427469]

>>16427449
Typical that the man who writes about robots believes himself to be nothing more than a robot

[Anonymous No.16427606]

>>16427449
Go outside

[Anonymous No.16427612]

>>16427449
Hello retard department?

[Anonymous No.16427620]

>>16427469
>>16427606
>>16427612
why is this board unwelcoming to atheism?

[Anonymous No.16427640]

>>16427449
>kike can't comprehend divinity outside of masturbatory legalism

Water wet.

[Anonymous No.16427656]

>>16427620
c'est homosex

[Anonymous No.16427663]

>>16427620
Full of trad teenagers hoping Christianity will rise and give them a virginal gf

[Anonymous No.16427685]

>>16427663
to the contrary, atheism is a hallmark teenage phase

[Anonymous No.16427697]

>>16427620
Cause it's utterly useless besides an immediate outside context for the smartest minds.

For every other circumstance it's just dangerous retardation.

[Anonymous No.16428247]

>>16427697
Who decides what is good and bad behaviour?

[Anonymous No.16428269]

>>16427620
because it's completely cringe and only a psued would even call themselves an atheist. somebody with any sense wouldn't feel the need to label themselves as a member of any tribe.

[Anonymous No.16428362]

>>16428247
The fittest to lead?
Culture Bearers?
Nature itself?

You'll keep trying to miss the forest for the trees by sidetracking. Yet the basic principle remains. A druggie degenerate thinks infinite drug money is good, and an aristocratic soldier thinks God family and country is good. High time preference people understand that sex is an obvious good and like having as much sex with as many people as possible. Low time preference people understand that sex is good but also that it is better when utilized in the right circumstances with the right partner. Why then did morality, religion and law dictate that promiscuity was a bad? Because people who fuck strangers get STDs and have bastard kids and create material and social burden for which there was not the necessary strength prepared to carry.

This should not be hard to understand.

[Anonymous No.16428433]

>>16427449
Midwit take because it is based on 1)other people's perception and 2)"emotions" (whatever that means in this context). At least he partially redeems himself by admitting he has no evidence against God's existence-- even though this is a foregone conclusion.

[Anonymous No.16428484]

>>16428362
Noooooooo they just made it up to control us maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

[Anonymous No.16428616]

>>16428362
brooo sucha slave to duh system bro try cutting your dick off and feel liberation for onec

[Anonymous No.16429334]

>>16427449
>dies of AIDS
Lol

[Anonymous No.16429343]

>>16427620
Because they're too smug without being anime girls.
And because blind denial of God is midwit behavior. If you were a tiny bit smarter, you'd realize that either 1) religion/spirituality* has a necessary role, or it wouldn't have stuck around for so long, all around the world, or 2) it's a little bit suspicious that humans have been able to make sense of the universe, as if not everything happened by random chance, but there seems to be some kind of rational pattern behind things.

(* I'm assuming the average atheist doesn't just deny the existence of God, but also of any kind of metaphysics, and tends to be purely materialist. It's not just "God doesn't exist", but also things like "the soul doesn't exist", "just like a CPU is an 'intelligent' rock, a human is an 'intelligent' bundle of cells", etc...)

[Anonymous No.16429536]

>>16429343
Imagine being this much of a schizo retard. Bonus points for not even knowing what metaphysics is. Return to >>>/x/.

[Anonymous No.16429546]

>>16427620
certainty is blindness

[Anonymous No.16429551]

>>16427697
>Screenshot of your own post

[Anonymous No.16429556]

>>16427620
It's not. The loudest whiners are just heard the most often.

[Anonymous No.16429563]

>>16427685
Not edgy and countercultural enough these days

[Anonymous No.16429593]

>>16427449
>My beliefs are based on emotional reasons

Well at least he admits it.

[Anonymous No.16429604]

>>16429593
As if there is practical reason to believe in the Abrahamic God, lol

[Anonymous No.16429614]

>>16429536
Imagine being a slave to the meaning of words that others have established, instead of forging yours so that it fits into your argument.

[Anonymous No.16429624]

>>16429614
Take your meds, schizo.

[Anonymous No.16429631]

>>16429604
Yes.

[Anonymous No.16429647]

>I have no proof but I will say there is no God because I feel like it
It's just religious belief inverted

[Anonymous No.16429652]

>>16429631
That pic stands in favor of church-going, not believing.

[Anonymous No.16429668]

>>16429652
Why would you go to church if you didn't believe it? At any rate, believers are less suicidal than atheists, so that's another one.

[Anonymous No.16429674]

>>16427449
Even the most celebrated atheists turn out to be midwits.

[Anonymous No.16429677]

>>16429668
>Why would you go to church if you didn't believe it?
Why do people go to see the latest blockbuster movie, or follow trends on social media like social media is the gospel? Same principle in action there.

[Anonymous No.16429682]

Are the Foundation books any good? How do they hold up?

[Anonymous No.16429715]

>>16429677
>People go to movies because they believe in them.
Based retard.

[Anonymous No.16429721]

>>16429715
No, they go to those movies because their parents do it / everyone else is.

[Anonymous No.16429733]

>>16429682
I like them a lot. Although I’ve only gotten halfway through the second book of the Foundation Trilogy.

[Anonymous No.16429736]

>>16429721
Then believers would have the same social attitudes as normalfags.

[Anonymous No.16429750]

>>16429733
Could you sell me a little? from what I gather, plot-wise it's way-the-fuck in the future and some 'economist' character is trying to do something. I don't need strong characters, so long as the ideas / philosophy is interesting I am good to go

[Anonymous No.16429752]

>>16427620

Because at some point, around the beginning of the decade, all of the conservakids discovered 4chan.

[Anonymous No.16429764]

>>16427620
Atheism is yhe philosophy of the midwit and only leads to stagnation and decedance.

[Anonymous No.16429771]

>>16429736
Most people are normalfags. That's why they're called that. Crazy, right?

[Anonymous No.16429774]

>>16428362

>an aristocratic soldier thinks God family and country is good

Romans viewed the emperor as a living God. The soldiers rarely saw their families. Loyalty to Rome was blind and if you challenged it, you got the cross.
They're both very similar, when you think about it; God and Drugs. You expect them to deliver you from this worlds suffering, but it only leaves you wanting. What's the saying? "Man has a god-sized hole in his heart?"

[Anonymous No.16429799]

>>16428362
> Because people who fuck strangers get STDs and have bastard kids and create material and social burden for which there was not the necessary strength prepared to carry.

Now there is protection
/God

[Anonymous No.16429806]

>>16429721
>Church attendance lower than ever in France
>They go because of social pressure
Are you a bit retarded?
>>16429652
>That's an argument for church going even though non-going Christians are more redpilled than atheists.
Yes.

[Anonymous No.16429826]

>>16429806
They're not going because less social pressure. Wow, that was a tough one.

>non-going Christians are more redpilled than atheists
Still only Christian because of their parents, not because they believe in the Abrahamic God. All it means is that there's benefit to institutionalizing a value structure.

[Anonymous No.16429830]

>>16427449
>somehow I felt it was intellectually unrespectable
what a gay reason for doing something

[Anonymous No.16429831]

>>16429682
Just finished reading the first trilogy and it was excellent. First book is full of stories and has a great sense of reading through an interesting history. But the second half of book 2 had me in its arms and didnt let go. Book 3 recontextualizes the whole thing and made me love the trilogy as a whole, and more of what made me love book 2.

Probably worth reading if you enjoy smaller stories rolling into something bigger and themes dealing with destiny vs choice/control.

[Anonymous No.16429834]

>>16429831
thank (you) fren

[Anonymous No.16429837]

>>16429682
Yeah but don't expect much prose

[Anonymous No.16429844]

>>16429750
Some big-shot asshole psychology thinks he knows the galactic empire is gonna fall and 30,000 years of savagery is gonna happen until another empire comes along. So, hes got the balls to make a plan to reduce it to 1,000 years and the books chronicle stories across the centuries ro find out if the asshole’s plan worked. Shit hita the fan in the second book.

[Anonymous No.16430089]

>>16427620
Because we've gone full circle and people that were children during the time of the internet atheism fights have grown up and they feel the need to be contrarians and pretend that they actually think that there is a god.

[Anonymous No.16430099]

>>16429631
The problem with shit like this is its never a reason to believe in religion.
Showing the power of an organized social ethos is not the same thing as justifying dedicating your life to a non-existent deity.
And just telling people to put on the pastiche of a religion for the sake of social functionalism is just working against your own faith.

[Anonymous No.16430385]

>>16429774
>>16429774
>but in rome uuuhhhh akshuaally
Missing the forest for the trees and even with what you just fucking said why is that wrong? If morality is useless and false then why is it suddenly wrong for the Emperor to kill people with different political motives?

And stop personalizing it dumbass, most people can go about their lives with some God involved and be totally fulfilled and almost all druggies fuck up their existence more than it's worth.

Read Evola, religion is supposed to be integrated into ones being and ontology not externalized into abstract concepts or items. But even then, the physical cocaine pile makes ONE MAN happy and leads him to a few hours of pleasure, allwhile one book with a few meaningful ideas fills peoples hearts and directs them into living better lives which avoid suffering and improve their community.

You're being a fucking idiot and you know it.

>>16429799
Sure buddy go fuck the nearest prostitute next time you get horny and tell me the wisdom I mentioned doesn't apply to 99.9% of people.

You people are fucking retarded and it makes me glad atheists have less children and that atheism culturally always signals a giant calamity that kills all the retards leaving a few intelligent and strong to fix your fucking pathetic mistake of an existence. Go to hell.

[Anonymous No.16430548]

>>16427620
Most posters are likely insecure regarding their own religious belief and have a struggle between the comfort and community such beliefs bestow and the gnawing realization that religious dogma has no real foundation other than faith (meaning they are entirely unfalsifiable and almost certainly a product of implicit biases towards a childlike reliance on a powerful and just parent). Despite all the rhetoric, religion is the ultimate bastion for the midwit, it carries an aesthetic of wisdom while abdicating the need for actual individual critical thinking or moral reasoning while favoring a pure deference to authority. Of course, those entrapped in this system will always respond from an emotional place as any threat to this structure has the potential to force them to confront the reality of a godless universe, and such a circumstance is so uncomfortable for human beings that it is likely the cause of the rise of religions in all cultures to begin with.

[Anonymous No.16431819]

>>16427449
I am the only person in the world with a rational, demonstrably true religion that follows directly from irrefutable principles that stand up to the greatest, Pyrrhonic standard of skepticism. In a matter of years, I may publish my great work. Everybody else has a faith that at its core is no better or worse than atheism.

[Anonymous No.16432870]

>>16427620
>Literally more than half of the world's population are theists (Christians or Islams).
>all of them believe there's this all-powerful dude God who they can talk to
>pretty much 0 disagreement among them (including Christians vs Moslems) that the God they worship is the same dude for everyone.
>regularly interact with him through prayer and meditation. Describe genuine communication with god.
But yeah you're right. There's no evidence that this dude exists. The fact that that >50% of the world's population believe this dude exists and describe regularly interacting with him is not evidence, those are just baseless claims.

[Anonymous No.16433616]

>>16429343
>just like a CPU is an 'intelligent' rock

[Anonymous No.16434233]

>>16429593
>My beliefs are based on emotional reasons
he's just admitting his reason for disbelief is as emotional as a theist's belief: faith is emotion not logic.
usually theists tout faith as human emotion as a virtue.

[Anonymous No.16434517]

>>16427620
Because it is not reddit

[Anonymous No.16434677]

>>16434517
Reddit is not an argument, zoomer. It's the most normalfag virtue signalling on this site even.

[Anonymous No.16434948]

>>16434677
You have to go back.

[Anonymous No.16435243]

>>16429830
That's the reason people on here are "religious" but preach hate in the same breath.

[Anonymous No.16435248]

>>16427449
>/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/

[Anonymous No.16435253]

>>16434948
Alright I'm back

[Anonymous No.16435657]

>>16427663
>atheist can't think of anything but comparing things to cumming

[Anonymous No.16435676]

>>16430089
Just like millennials that listened to loud Rap music, play video games, watch South Park, and go on newgrounds have to pretend to be militant atheists, right?

[Anonymous No.16435682]

>>16430548
>and the gnawing realization that religious dogma has no real foundation other than faith
Read Jung, fucking midwit.

[Anonymous No.16435861]

>>16435682
Thank you for proving my point about responding from an emotional place. Also Jung is trash