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The more I look for the truth, the more I keep finding Catholics already there, already having solved the initial issue (typically centuries ago) and moved on to things even more profound.

It is disconcerting.

>> No.16411483
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>>16411477
All roads lead to Rome as they say anon.

>> No.16411491

>>16411477
Ok now prove that Peter went to Rome.

>> No.16411510

>>16411491
https://www.catholic.com/tract/was-peter-in-rome

>> No.16411533

I'm always stunned by how many people simp for Catholicism when in reality it's a barely coherent mix of Greek genius, intellectual excrement and schizophrenic dogmatism.

>> No.16411576

>>16411510
Now show me where Clement instructs the other churches as if he has authority over them.

>> No.16411627

>>16411533
papists are largely cucks, but dogmatism is fake and gay and you should be ashamed of yourself

>> No.16411651

>>16411477
Now read Chateaubriand to continue your ascension.

>> No.16411669

>>16411627
I literally denounced dogmatism though

>> No.16411670

>>16411576
Pope Clement I
>“Owing to the sudden and repeated calamities and misfortunes which have befallen us, we must acknowledge that we have been somewhat tardy in turning our attention to the matters in dispute among you, beloved; and especially that abominable and unholy sedition, alien and foreign to the elect of God, which a few rash and self-willed persons have inflamed to such madness that your venerable and illustrious name, worthy to be loved by all men, has been greatly defamed. . . . Accept our counsel and you will have nothing to regret. . . . If anyone disobey the things which have been said by him [God] through us [i.e., that you must reinstate your leaders], let them know that they will involve themselves in transgression and in no small danger. . . . You will afford us joy and gladness if being obedient to the things which we have written through the Holy Spirit, you will root out the wicked passion of jealousy” (Letter to the Corinthians 1, 58–59, 63 [A.D. 80]).

https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-authority-of-the-pope-part-i

>> No.16411672

>>16411669
I'm saying there's no such thing as dogmatism. And no, I won't explain myself.

>> No.16411674

>>16411477
Very based, welcome to the club. Required reading is de Maistre, Cortes, Chateaubriand, and Chesterton.

>> No.16411682

>>16411674
Seconded.

>> No.16411727

>>16411533
I mean you basically described /lit/

>> No.16411732

>>16411672
Ah I see, so you're a moron.
>>16411727
wtf you're right

>> No.16411749

>>16411670
If anyone else would like further reading,
https://www.churchfathers.org/

>> No.16411751

>>16411732
Think about what I said, and then realize you're the moron.

>> No.16411761

The Pope is the anti-Christ and the worship of the saints and Virgin Mary is paganistic.

>> No.16411776

>>16411761
Stop repeating Father Jim’s retarded argument, they are unfounded.

>> No.16411798

Boggles the mind how many Protestants browse a board dedicated to literature when none of them read.

>> No.16411803

>>16411761
Intercession of the Saints was practiced and acknowledged by the Church Fathers and is common tradition. Also it's not worship.

Cyprian of Carthage
>“Let us remember one another in concord and unanimity. Let us on both sides [of death] always pray for one another. Let us relieve burdens and afflictions by mutual love, that if one of us, by the swiftness of divine condescension, shall go hence first, our love may continue in the presence of the Lord, and our prayers for our brethren and sisters not cease in the presence of the Father’s mercy” (Letters 56[60]:5 [A.D. 253]).

>> No.16411827

>>16411477
I'm a pretty shit Catholic and but I feel the same.

>> No.16411896

>>16411751
Bro you're literally braindead if you can't see that tons of people are blindly and unthinkingly attached to dogma they don't understand

>> No.16411909

>>16411896
Nope. Think harder.

>> No.16411929

>>16411477
Fake post.
All refuted garbage. You’re simply eating old turds, OP.

>> No.16411940

>>16411909
I would, but you haven't even made an argument so there's nothing to think about.

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16411947

Fun fact: the big bang theory (the actual theory, not the shitty sitcom) was conceived of by a Catholic priest. So even if you're a physicalist STEMbug, the Catholics got there first.

>> No.16411959

>>16411940
make your own argument. think, my child, and what wondrous delights will proceed forth1!!!

>> No.16412068

>>16411959
I think you must fall in the 90-105 IQ range.

>> No.16412084

Plaited hair is banned but perms for men are okay?
What was god's problem?

>> No.16412098

>>16412068
Mad? think more

>> No.16412131

>>16412098
If you have something enlightening to say about dogma, I'm all ears. Otherwise, I'm running short on time for this stupid game.

>> No.16412146

>>16411947
Based. Learning something new every day.

>> No.16412172

>>16412131
Try again

>> No.16412218

>>16412172
I'll try getting off this board and actually reading something mentally stimulating today, thanks for the enlightening conversation.

>> No.16412234

>The more I look for the truth
>the truth
Spoken like a true pseud

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>>16411761
>t.heretic
Papal authority most likely is as bad as it is because of years of taking rationalist theology and schismatic consequences in the ass. Even then Roman Catholics are a million times more Christian than protestants, because they actually have ties to the Church (with some wiggle room for the Anglicans and Lutherans). Christianity lives by its traditions, and not the reductionist billboard theology spreading apostasy through such aphorisms and literary devices lay protestants made up. Even then, saying such things won't make the Saints and and Theotokos stop praying and interceding for you. It'll just make it really awkward for you come Judgement.
>>16412084
Perms are a form of asceticism, because those who have them increase their chastity.

>> No.16412275

>>16411477
Keep looking and you notice that Catholics also cause the issues they ''solve''

>> No.16412314

>>16412273
>Christianity lives by its traditions
I got news for you, dummy. There’s no such thing as an eternal, never changing tradition, in any religion, ever. Never has been and never will be. The way you interpret and act out any scripture and the rituals associated with is already radically different from the way the generation before you interpreted them and acted them out. People who believe that tradition is some magical set of rules that have never changed are short sighted retards who usually just became religious and think that their religion has never changed since its inception. This is a complete fantasy. Religions change constantly and radically. For instance, most of you tradcath LARPers don’t accept that the current pope is legitimate, a point of view that just a few decades ago your fellow co-religionists would’ve excommunicated you for. The fact that you’re allowed to go to your church without anyone stopping you shows just how radically your own traditions have changed over time

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>>16412314
>you tradcath LARPers
As an Antiochian Orthodox I laughed. I feel bad for even thinking you were as good as a protestant lmao.

>> No.16412386

what are catholic writers that deal with the world as will and representation?

>> No.16412417

>>16412360
>As an Antiochian Orthodox I laughed.
You are in no way, shape or form the exact same believer the generation before you was, and if you seriously believe that you believe and worship in exactly the same way as even the generation before you, let alone all the generations before you, you are completely delusional.

But hey, don’t take my word for it, let time be the judge. I can predict with near absolute accuracy that in just a few years, certainly in a few decades, your faith will already be almost completely unrecognizable to you. That’s because time only goes in one direction, and nothing can stop this, not your god, your religion, or your supposed eternal traditions

>> No.16412461

>>16412417
2 Thessalonians 2:15
>"Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle."

>> No.16412462

>>16411947
He could be a dog for all I care. Did he use the bible or did the use Physics to get to his conclusion?
Why are religious people so dishonest, and why are they so oblivious to their own dishonesty and dogmatism? That a priest, nonetheless, had the guts to go against the bible and try to find a reasonable explanation for something, should be an eye opener to you, and not the atheist.

>> No.16412466

>>16412234
>"there's no objective truth noooo noooooooooooooooooooooooooo"
>t. pseud
>>16412314
Nice materialist interpretation of the word "tradition", epic work my spiritually protestant friend.

>> No.16412497

>>16412462
The Catholic Church teaches that the bible should not be used as a source of scientific knowledge.

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>>16412417
>nothing can stop this, not your god, your religion, or your supposed eternal traditions
Been said before, always ends up with you losing

>> No.16412521

>>16411477
Notice how all the tradlarpers always go on and on about muh truths of Christianity! But it is always some political truths, transcendental truths of morality or whatever else. It is never the supposed truthfulness of the future physical resurrection, Adam and Eve causing original sin, salvation is of the Jews, first principle reincarnating or any other CHRISTIAN truth.

Yes yes we get it Christians built nice churches, they believe in morality, interesting political philosophy, and once in a while a Christian mystic said something deep. But Christianity wasn't rejected over these things, it was rejected because of the Bible.

>> No.16412533

>>16412218
my work here is done

>> No.16412540

>>16412497
Then especially in that case it doesn't matter if a scientist is catholic or not.

>> No.16412546

>>16412519
>what is the protestant reformation
>what is revolutionary anti-clericalism
>what is secularism
I have bad news for you friend, but this time they're going to win.

>> No.16412560

>>16411491
He didn't he got lost for 1500 years and ended up in germany.

>> No.16412569

>>16411533
Because what you just described is still more coherent and meaningful than Protestantism.

Not even christian.

>> No.16412585

>>16412540
The point really went above your head

>> No.16412590

>>16412540
The point is that too often is Catholicism and maybe Christianity is said to be in opposition to science. We can rest assured that this is untrue.

>> No.16412608

>>16412569
Sure, good point, but that's a pretty low bar, isn't it?

>> No.16412610

>>16411477
>The more I look for my girlfriend's pussy, the more I keep finding other men already there
Damn, that sucks OP

>> No.16412639

>>16412608
If one is set on following that god, it's the highest bar available.

>> No.16412646

>>16412639
You seem to be forgetting not one but several other branches of Christianity.

>> No.16412666

>>16412462
>That a priest, nonetheless, had the guts to go against the bible
Very sneaky, but I see right through you. You mean to say "He acted in accordance that wasn't strictly within the Bible's confines." because nowhere does it state the practice of science is unethical.