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16404819 No.16404819[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Give me one (1) reason not to fuck my 14 year old niece that isn't pure moralfaggotry.

>> No.16404825

>>16404819
You'll regret it.

>> No.16404839

>>16404819
>Give me one reason not to kill my 14 year old niece that isn’t moralfaggotry

>> No.16404844

>>16404819
You'll ruin her life in addition to yours.

>> No.16404892

>>16404825
>You'll regret it.
I'll only know if this is true by going through with it.
>>16404839
>>Give me one reason not to kill my 14 year old niece that isn’t moralfaggotry
Her tits are too perky to kill her it would be an utter waste.
>>16404844
>You'll ruin her life in addition to yours.
Again, I can't know the validity of this statement unless I fuck her and see the consequences for myself.

>> No.16404901

>>16404819
Legal reasons, unless AoC is 14 in your country.

>> No.16404903

>>16404819
simple, your parents and her parents will hate you for it
depending the jurisdiction, you could also get arrested and imprisoned for it

>> No.16404906 [DELETED] 

>>16404819
You're posting on here looking for reasons to prevent yourself from doing it, so you must have a kind of moral conscience, even if you're not conscious of it. Perhaps you are conscious of it, but you want to act wholly rationally without the influence of irrational emotions of morality and guilt. However, you will be influenced by those emotions, and the pain of those emotions would probably outweigh the pleasure you would get, since they would last for longer. The only reason to do it is pleasure, and the pleasure principle is in reality just as irrational as your conscience.

>> No.16404910

>>16404819
to indulge in what is pleasant is the same as to moan about what is unpleasant. Both are anathema to the Soul and anger Heaven.

>> No.16404914

>>16404819
Fuck or not, you will regret both.

>> No.16404915

>>16404819
She is too young and therefore susceptible to manipulation by elders.

>> No.16404924
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16404924

>>16404892

>I can't know the validity of this statement unless I fuck her and see the consequences for myself.

Okay then go do it :)

>> No.16404968

>>16404901
An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law.
>>16404903
Why would I tell her mother, my sister, that I fucked her child?
>>16404906
Maybe I am looking for (You) to talk me out of it. She is young and attractive and I know she wants to. Resisting such a thing is difficult.
>>16404914
The tragic reality.
>>16404915
>he manipulated me into all those orgasms I didn't want them at all

>> No.16404974

>>16404968
They'll probably find out, 14 year old girls are not known for their discretion.

>> No.16404999

>>16404968
okay, still answered your question. Legalfaggotry isn't moralfaggotry. Although many laws are created through morality they are still separate. Because laws are law and are enforced, while morality differs from person to person.

>> No.16405007

>>16404999
Checked. I'll take her on holidays to Euroland and bang her there instead.

>> No.16405013

come up with one reason to not smash my car into a concrete wall that isn't pure physicsfaggotry

>> No.16405029

>>16405007
Based. Morality is fake subjective bullshit anyways. As long as you're not violating law there's nothing objectively wrong. Besides possible mental issues it could cause her.

>> No.16405030

I think it's quite obvious than any exploration of the topic cannot go any further until pics of the girl in question are provided. We have to base our decisions and reasoning concretely, not in vague abstractions.

>> No.16405032

>>16404819
You dont want to fuck your niece.

>> No.16405034

>>16405013
>come up with one reason to not smash my car into a concrete wall that isn't pure physicsfaggotry
Car insurance rates.

>> No.16405041

>>16405030
Hear, hear. And especially the size and shape of her rear end would certainly provide us with sufficient data to make a proper moral judgement.

>> No.16405043

>>16405032
I really do.

>> No.16405046

>>16404901
He said no moral faggotry. Laws are enforced morals dumbass

>> No.16405050

Mods?

>> No.16405056

>>16405043
You dont.

>> No.16405057

>>16404892
>Again, I can't know the validity of this statement unless I fuck her and see the consequences for myself.
Right, but you must admit that most people would agree with this statement. This isn't just conjecture. Many, many people have had to deal with negative impacts of trauma after an adult has taken advantage of their vulnerability. Make no mistake about it, you will be taking advantage of her. Because she's still psychologically and socially and emotionally a child. Her brain is not fully formed, but more than that, her experience of the world, of people, of their motives, is ephemeral. She doesn't yet properly understand the power dynamics of relationships. She's still developing her sexuality. Her will. What her body is and means to her. What consent is. What affection is. What love is.

If you do this, with full knowledge that it may have a negative impact on her future, you're being selfish. You're putting your desires ahead of her wellbeing. You're saying that you're willing to risk significant trauma to this person in exchange--for what? Pleasure? Does that seem like a fair pay off? Do you need this pleasure? Can you get it elsewhere pretty cheaply, and in a way that doesn't harm anyone?

Forget the context for a moment and reverse the power dynamics: someone says to you, "I want us to do this thing that you don't really understand or have much (or any) experience of; you might enjoy it in the moment but there's a high possibility that in the future this thing will cause you, and potentially your family, significant emotional distress; however, in return I will get an hour or so of pleasure."

Would you agree to it?

>> No.16405058

>>16405046
Implying there is objective morality. Laws are just enforced wills.

>> No.16405100

>>16405058
>Implying there isn't an objective morality

>> No.16405163
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16405163

>>16404968
>An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law.
kek

>> No.16405244

>>16405057
>most people would agree with this statement
We are rapidly reaching the stage where most people would agree with the statement "a woman has a penis" so what the dregs of normalfaggotry think doesn't bother me.
>Many, many people have had to deal with negative impacts of trauma after an adult has taken advantage of their vulnerability
The average age of marriage in Europe was 14 for hundreds of years. The entire concept of being a "teenager" is a modern invention that infantilises young adults.
>Her brain is not fully formed
It won't be until she is mid 20's but we let her fuck at 18 anyway.
>She doesn't yet properly understand the power dynamics of relationships
Probably true but she knows I'm an authority figure.
>She's still developing her sexuality. Her will. What her body is and means to her. What consent is. What affection is. What love is.
14 year olds know what consent is it's literally only Americans who believe teenagers are incapable of saying yes or no to sex.
>Would you agree to it?
If they're giving me an hour of sex probably.

>> No.16405249

>>16405100
There isn't religionfag.

>> No.16405251

>>16404819
You do not love her

>> No.16405256

>>16405056
This. Fucking disgusting niggers

>> No.16405265

>>16405251
Yes I do she's my niece and potential partner.

>> No.16405271

>>16405265
For fucking not marriage, otherwise you'd be talking about her glowing personality and not her perky tits

>> No.16405287

>>16405271
It's hardly my fault her tits came out 10/10.

>> No.16405294

Why are you looking at us to validate your life choices?

>> No.16405298

>>16405244
>We are rapidly reaching the stage where most people would agree with the statement "a woman has a penis"
enough 4chan for you today anon

>> No.16405306

>>16405294
>Why are you looking at us to validate your life choices?
Getting a second opinion on something isn't asking for validation.

>> No.16405320

>>16405287
I don't even think 14 year olds can't consent but it's obvious you're just excited you have easy access via family connection to a young girl who is too impressionable to know most women consider you too low value of a male to fuck. Otherwise you'd be fucking girls who aren't your sister's kid.

>> No.16405326

>>16405306
Yes it is. The consequences aren't ours to suffer, so why should we care?

>> No.16405337

>>16405320
>projection.jpg
Every fucking time with you redditfags. I have a gf retard.

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>>16405320
>I don't even think 14 year olds can't consent but it's obvious you're just excited you have easy access via family connection to a young girl who is too impressionable to know most women consider you too low value of a male to fuck. Otherwise you'd be fucking girls who aren't your sister's kid.

>> No.16405348

>>16405337
Is your gf cool with you fucking your 14 year old niece?

>> No.16405349

>>16404819
Because she doesn't want to fuck you, and you're too weak-willed and pathetic to rape her.

>> No.16405354

>>16405326
>guys can you talk me out of doing x
>you just want us to tell you to do it
Ok bro. If you don't care why are you wasting your time posting? Go find some other thread.

>> No.16405363

>>16405348
I neither know nor care I've been looking to trade her in for a while.

>> No.16405370

>>16405354
Don't tell me what to do, faggot.

>> No.16405375

>>16405370
Or what? You'll cry online?

>> No.16405389

>>16405354
You're rather sanctimonious for a child molester.

>> No.16405395

>>16404819
Does she actually want to fuck you?

>> No.16405398
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16405398

>>16405389
Currently only a potential child molester.

>> No.16405402

>>16404819
She doesn't exist.

>> No.16405424

>>16405395
How could she not, given how dreamy the OP is? Her sopping wet box says it all.

>> No.16405431

>>16404892
So you clearly don’t want any advice because it will all be dismissed with this fucking 20IQ sophistry of “I won’t know that until I experience it.”
Why the fuck you even asked in the first place is almost as baffling as why this sewage thread is on /lit/ in the first place.

>> No.16405438

>>16405395
She does that retarded teenager shit when we are alone then backs off massively if she hears anyone coming. She's been doing it since she was about 12 but she's started looking like a woman recently so it's having more of an effect on me.

>> No.16405439

>>16405431
He wanted an excuse to argue about pedophilia online

>> No.16405443

>>16404968
>An unjust law is a human law that is not rooted in eternal law and natural law.
Dude, you’re trying to have sex with a child relative, not free the fucking slaves.

>> No.16405447

>>16405431
>you'll regret it
>source: believe me bro
Great advice anon.

>> No.16405448

>>16405438
>that retarded teenager shit
What is that? Exist?

>> No.16405456

>>16404819
If you get found out you're as good as dead.

>> No.16405465

>>16405439
>>16405443
>teenagers are children
I see the Americans have found the thread.

>> No.16405468

>>16404968
>tries to pull the St. Thomas card so that he can fuck his underage niece
classic

>> No.16405482

>>16405244
>what the dregs of normalfaggotry think doesn't bother me
But this isn't the dregs, anon. This is most people. This is the world of science. The world of most of major religions. Of most political leanings. Don't hide behind contrarianism; it's an excuse not an argument.

>The average age of marriage in Europe was 14 for hundreds of years. The entire concept of being a "teenager" is a modern invention that infantilises young adults
But people also shat in the same river they drank from. It's called progress, anon. The laws were changed to protect people.

It's interesting you called them 'young adults' and not just adults. Doesn't this indicate that you're aware that there's a difference between someone who's fully developed and matured and someone who's still developing?

>>16405244
>It won't be until she is mid 20's but we let her fuck at 18 anyway.
I agree that this is somewhat absurd, but I can assure you her brain is more developed at 18 than it is at 14. Moreover she will have 4 more years of life experience, and whilst she won't be an expert, she'll have learnt a lot more about making informed decisions.

>>16405244
>she knows I'm an authority figure
Ok. In this response you're telling me that you know that she trusts you. You haven't really argued against the implied thrust of my last post which is the you, being older and more experienced than her, know things that she doesn't. At least part of her is relying on you, as the adult, with your superior knowledge and experience, to make decisions in your relationship that are in her best interests. This is what it means to be an authority figure. Don't abuse your power, anon.

>>16405244
>14 year olds know what consent is
As an abstraction, yes, I'm sure your niece understands what consent is. However, as I said before, she doesn't entirely understand what sex is, what affection is, what love is, and how these things interrelate. Because you learn about these things through firsthand experience. In practical terms, this might mean that you tell her you're in love with her, in order to sleep with her, and she takes you at face value, not having had experience of what love looks like in another person, or that people sometimes lie about it in order to sleep with someone. This is just an example. There are myriad ways in which she may be unable to give you her consent.

>> No.16405486

>>16405447
You probably won't regret it unless she tells on you afterwards since it doesn't sound like you have a conscious. You're going to get found out. If she wasn't your niece I wouldn't say that with certainty but she is, so you're going to get found out. Either you fuck around a bit and when she gets old enough she realize what happened and tells the whole family and everyone you know (and possibly cops) that you molested her, or you keep it going long enough that it can't possibly be hidden. Assuming that your teenage niece could be manipulated into a long term relationship with her, it'd either have to go public eventually or you'd have to drop her, and the moment you drop her she'd start screaming.

>> No.16405496

She hates you op. Waiting for you to actually attempt to pull a dumdum and van you

>> No.16405505

>>16405443
If You Don't Stand for Something, You'll Fall for Anything.

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>>16404819
So thats where the original comes from

>> No.16405543

>>16404825
/thread