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>My horror of real women, sexual women, I mean, is the path I took to find you. Those earthly women, who in order to be... must bear the agitated weight of a man -- who can love them? who does not feel love dissolving at the mere thought of sexual pleasure? Who can respect his Wife and not think of her simply as a woman in another sexual position? Who does not feel disgusted to have had a mother, to have been so vulval in his origins, so vilely expelled into the world? Who is not revolted any the idea of our soul's carnal origin, of the corporal turbulence out of which our flesh is born, and which, however beautiful, is soiled by its origins, its birth?

Why was Pessoa so autistic?

>> No.16396804

>>16396800
i felt that

>> No.16396822

>>16396800
He was gay

>> No.16396840

Because he was an incel. And I don't mean that in the pejorative sense, he just was.

Though I guess one might validly ponder what came first, the autism or the inceldom.

>> No.16396882

>>16396822
>The artist must be born beautiful and elegant; for he who worships beauty must not himself be unfair. And it is assuredly a terrible pain for an artist to find not at all in himself that which he strives for. Who, looking at the portraits of Shelley, of Keats, of Byron, of Milton, and of Poe, can wonder that these were poets? All were beautiful, all were beloved and admired, all had in love warmth of life and heavenly joy, as far as any poet, or indeed any man, can have.

from The Artist must be born beautiful

>> No.16397178

>>16396800
Pessoa General

>> No.16397187

>>16396800
Did he create all of his own troubles and suffering or is this the exception?

>> No.16397216

I suppose it is kinda disgusting, now that I think about it.

>> No.16397217

>>16397187
>I do not even abdicate from the banal gestures of love from which I so wish I could abdicate. I could abdicate. Abdication takes effort, and I do not have enough soul to make that effort. How often it pains me not to be the captain of that ahi, the drive of that train! To be some other banal individual whose life, because not mine, fills me with delicious longing and a poetic sense of otherness!

>> No.16397227

>>16397217
Change love to life.
Change ahi to ship.
Change drive to driver.
I’m a retarded phoneposter

>> No.16397235

>>16397217
I fucking swear Pessoa just GO OUT WITH SOME PEOPLE OR ASK A WOMAN OUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?????? Just become a train driver if you want to so much.

>> No.16397242

>>16397227
It's okay anon, I understood most of it anyway.

>> No.16398349

>>16396800
What did Pessoa mean by this in the Book of Disquiet:
> From the terrace of this cafe I look tremulously out at life. I can't see much of it, just the bustle of people concentrated in this small bright square of mine. A weakness like the beginnings of drunkenness illuminates for me the souls of things. in the footsteps of passersby and in the measure fury of movement, life, obvious and unanimous, flows past me. In this moment, I am euphoric, when my feelings all stagnate and everything seems other than it is -- not because of any phony god's blessing -- my feelings a confused yet lucid mistake because, I am enlightened by my intelligence like an imaginary candor, I spread my wings but do not fly.

>> No.16398494
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16398494

>>16398349
T- thanks.

>> No.16399266

>>16398349
Kek

>> No.16399321

>>16396800

I think Plotinus might have had a similar hatred of the flesh. I wonder if he walked in on his parents having sex

>> No.16399339

>>16396800
How do you refute this? It's the truth. The strongest argument for antinatalism isn't the usual "suffering sucks", but that the act of sex is so contrary to anything good, beautiful, or divine that it's hard to believe your soul won't be compromised in the process.

>> No.16399349

>>16399321
Based Freudian

>> No.16399378

>>16399339

you can make it fun if you want to...every single murder, theft, injustice, and general evil committed prior to your birth was a direct contribution to your own existence. this is why everyone has original sin. it’s fun to play the game of “how many atrocities were committed, how many lies were told?” in your own family prior to your birth. then you can extend this analysis to your local town or country, then extend it to world history itself, then cosmic mechanics up to the creation of the sun and the aggregation of our local solar system, then even beyond that...

>> No.16399401

I'm 7.8/10 and honestly honestly i can be pretty poetic in schizo way in my way into girls pussy, honestly i imagine myself being a woman and getting fucked by me and it looked really nice getting pumped by rock solid abs and my girthy cock and robust jawline, but non of this really matter because i've yellow teeth and afraid borderline repulsed by kissing so it's over for my sexual life. Also i can't stop imagining the smell when i see women even from afar, its not a pleasant thought

how do i cope with it i feel like i possees some of pessoa cunt demons?

>> No.16399416

>>16399339
>How do you refute this? It's the truth. The strongest argument for antinatalism isn't the usual "suffering sucks", but that the act of sex is so contrary to anything good, beautiful, or divine that it's hard to believe your soul won't be compromised in the process.
This is an evil belief. Quite literally and un-ironically, HAVE SEX.

>> No.16399462

>>16399401
I too love the smell of women. It can be distracting. I like it when they turn and their hair accidentally whips you in the face.

>> No.16399645
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16399645

>>16396800
Why do some people find it so hard to accept their sexual side?

>> No.16399996

>>16399645
It is the root cause of evil and the highest form of it.

>> No.16400003

>>16399645
Because it can go left far more easily than most people are willing to admit

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16400032

>>16399645
>>16396800

Idk. Honestly this passage reminds me of the SCUM Manifesto in it's level of loathing.

Low key think that a lot of modernity's problems would be solved if we all slept around a bit more freely and relationships weren't obsessively monogamous. But what do I know, I'm just a sexually satisfied person.

>> No.16400040

>>16399645
because it’s disgusting and feels pleasant only because muh reproduction

>> No.16400046

>>16400032
go back or i will rape your mother and make you a sister

>> No.16400048

>>16399996
>>16400003
>>16400040
You all lack eros and the ability to consummate your romantic love for a woman.

>> No.16400054

>>16400032
Yikes, yeah okay I'm sure that would work everyone just fucking everyone else and having no restraints because boomer tier logic says the end goal of life is fucking one another, and that we'll live in eternal peace from this.

>> No.16400057

>>16400048
Every woman is a succubus. Love God.

>> No.16400062

>>16400057
>calling mother mary a succubus
>denying the proliferation of your seed

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16400094

>>16400046

Go back where? To my lover's bed?

>>16400054

I don't know about no restraints but it's obvious that many of you are completely starved of sex and to be frank, you could probably use the exercise.

>> No.16400098

>>16400062
Succubi have sex. Mary is a virgin.
>>denying the proliferation of your seed
Unfortunately I am forced to have sex. Such is life.

>> No.16400131

>>16400094
>I don't know about no restraints but it's obvious that many of you are completely starved of sex and to be frank, you could probably use the exercise.
The whore in your picture is ugly, and "starved of sex" is a mentality, and one of a very typical orgasmer at that.

>>16400098
Don't reject Eros anon; Juliet, you reject half of yourself.

>> No.16400142

>>16396800
I'd make that mustache of his sticky with my thicc cum

>> No.16400172
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16400172

>>16400131

Is this the origins of the coomer meme? You all really think that orgasming drains your vital essence somehow?

I set out sexually with just one goal: not to be taken advantage of. I rejected some and was rejected by others. In the end, I accepted someone who offered me both freedom and security, built around trust and a relationship of minds.

I've both explored and settled down. There was no "downside" to the experience, other than perhaps I had to learn a bit about both others and myself. If I feel compelled to journey further one day, I might, but for now I can say I'm truly content. There is no remaining sexual insecurity or concern, just a desire to perfect the art, like any other.

>> No.16400182

>>16400142
Tell me more, anon :)

>> No.16400709

>>16396800
Post more quotes? I resonate with him. I'm not revolted but rather conflicted in casting aside my sexual "desires" vs being the creation of the same thing.

>> No.16400722

>>16398349
I lost lol

>> No.16400753

>>16400709
Rules of Life

1) Make as few confidences as possible. Better make none, but, if you make any, make false or indistinct ones.

2)Dreams as little as possible, except where the direct purpose pf the dream is a poem or a literary product. Study and work.

3) Try to be as sober as possible, anticipating sobriety of body by a sober attitude of mind.

4) Be agreeable only by agreeableness not by opening your mind or by discussing freely those problems that are bound up with the inner life of the spirit.

5)Cultivate concentration, temper the will, make yourself a force by thinking.

6) Consider how few real friends you have, because few people are apt to be anyone's friends.

7) Try to charm by what is in your silence.

8) Organize your life like a literary work, putting as much unity into it as possible.

>> No.16400868

>>16400172
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

>> No.16400886

>>16400032
Post nose.

>> No.16400906

>>16400753
No. Live life chaotically.

>> No.16401053

>>16399996
>thinks the creative act is evil
Sad, fearful little people

>> No.16401071

>>16400906
I got that tattooed on my inner wrist

>> No.16401091

>>16396800
i actually think it's wondrous that our body is made of the same stuff as the universe around us and the idea of human birthing warms me
imagine being born like in BNW
fuck that

>> No.16401096

>>16399645
they're incarnated angels or ayyyliums that didn't practice natural births for very long or something, so these kind of things trigger them
if they're reincarnated reptilians affection also gets to them

>> No.16401106
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16401106

>Low key think that a lot of modernity's problems would be solved if we all slept around a bit more freely and relationships weren't obsessively monogamous. But what do I know, I'm just a sexually satisfied person.

>> No.16401117
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16401117

>>16401106
DELET

>> No.16401136

>>16401071
>tattoo
>degenerate
Checks out.

>> No.16401252

>>16400032
People did do that, it caused the downfall of the West.

>> No.16401259

>>16400094
Enjoy feeling yourself grow weaker and dumber because you spend your seed to freely.

Inferior!

>> No.16401336

>>16399645
>Then Bioy Casares recalled that one of the heresiarchs of Uqbar had declared that mirrors and copulation are abominable, because they increase the number or men.

>> No.16401416

>>16398349
lmao

>> No.16401568

>>16400032
what the fuck would that do? i dont think monogamy matters

>> No.16401587

>>16400032
If we "slept around a bit more freely" there would be a lot more sexual frustration. Things work the opposite way of what you think. People have never had as little sex as post sexual revolution.

>> No.16401591

>>16401587
ever since the sexual revolution there hasn't been a world war
check and m8ed incels

>> No.16401608

>>16401568
Jewish hands typed this post

>> No.16401800

>>16396800
I've read Plotinus, Origen, Tertullian, Pessoa.
I still feel like a coomer next to them. How do I achieve this level of wizardry?

>> No.16401845

>>16396800
>Who can respect his Wife and not think of her simply as a woman in another sexual position?
You are not supposed to respect your wife.
>Those earthly women, who in order to be... must bear the agitated weight of a man -- who can love them?
You should only love women as much as is possible in those conditions. Love God, or even other men if you want more.
>Who does not feel disgusted to have had a mother, to have been so vulval in his origins, so vilely expelled into the world? Who is not revolted any the idea of our soul's carnal origin, of the corporal turbulence out of which our flesh is born, and which, however beautiful, is soiled by its origins, its birth?
It's a bad moment to pass among others at worst. I can and I'm sure Pessoa could think of a dozen much worse moments of pain and biological disgust in our lives.

>> No.16401858

naked bodies are disgusting. i can't ever imagine myself getting that close to someone. the mere thought of sex makes me want to vomit.

>> No.16401917

>>16401858
That's what latex is for.

>> No.16401935

pessoa is schizoid

>> No.16401959

>>16396800
This dumb incel should have been institutionalized.

>> No.16401961

>>16401959
neck yourself coomer scum

>> No.16401981

>>16400032
>if we all slept around a bit more freely
This is literally the cause of frustration and where incels come from. Monogamy kind of guarantees you someone to fuck, sleeping around freely doesn't

>> No.16402003

>>16401961
> coomer
No, the incels who can't understand how love can be sexual are the coomers.

>> No.16402005

>>16402003
>you are the real coomers!
Convincing.

>> No.16402008

>>16402003
is this how cumbrains cope?

>> No.16402011

>>16396882
>Poe
>beautiful

>> No.16402012

>>16396800
He is right, I think about this often

>> No.16402030
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16402030

>>16402003
if normalfags go without so much as a month without their precious cummies they literally kill themselves. and incels are the pathetic ones?

>> No.16402043

>>16402005
>>16402008
One can't be an incel without constantly obsessing over sex and misusing their sexuality. There's a reason why every incel is a compulsive masturbator.

>> No.16402049

>>16402030
Normalfags are coomers in 2020 too.

This guy >>16401981 is right.

Coomerism and incelism is two sides of the same coin; indeed, they're usually compounded in one person.

The only way to enjoy sexuality is in the context of monogamous marriage, and that teaches you sexual continence too.

>> No.16402053

>>16400172
> boomers preaching 'sexual liberation'
Day of the pillow when?

>> No.16402099

>>16402053
Never unfortunately.
They'll die in medicalized nursing homes costing 1000 dollars a day, ensuring you receive zero material inheritance as well as breaking cultural transmission. All to increase their life span by three months. They'll still be hitting on the mystery meat goblina nurses they imported moments before death and complain about the younglings that, understandably, never visited them.

>> No.16402142

>>16402099
They'll probably get abused and raped by the nurses until they finally die so that's some compensation at least.

>> No.16402152

>>16400032
>if we all slept around a bit more freely
People say this as if they're imagining some kind of sex utopia where everyone just fucks each other like breathing. But that's never gonna happen. No one actually wants to fuck everyone. People want to fuck attractive people, and men want sex a lot more than women want sex. Free love can't exist outside of isolated tribes and communes and even there it's iffy at best.

>> No.16402181

>>16400172
Anon, maybe there is more to life than being like Callicles from Plato's Gorgias and having a constant stream of pleasure with no contentedness in your honey barrels. Maybe there is more than that, and deeper relationships than such which can only be found in a monogamous relationship(unless you're a king)? And maybe when you understand this, you will know that fucking and sex are not something to be indulged in, or something that you can regularly do as matter of course- really. You need to spiritually mature, but you never will insofar as you lay it dependent on your inability to be calmed any other way than sucking on a woman's tit.

>> No.16402332

>>16400131
>>16401259
what kind of cope is this? if this people arent trolling their brains must be a mush of female rejection trauma

>> No.16402356

>>16402152
>People want to fuck attractive people, and men want sex a lot more than women want sex.
This is the reality, and people avoid seeing it especially their combination. Women simply don't desire sex enough to sleep with anyone but a narrow selection of men.

>> No.16402520
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16402520

>>16402332
C O P E

>> No.16402544

>>16402332
Why female rejection trauma?

>> No.16402557

>>16402332
projection. not everyone is a cum addled retard like you. some people aspire to greater things in life than muh cummies

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16402601

>>16402332
>NOOOOO NOT MY SEXERINOOOOO

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>>16401981
>>16402049
>>16402152
>>16402181

>ignoring me obviously implying that having standards for myself and others led me to a respectful voluntarily monogamous relationship after a few years of polyamory

I honestly told every woman I slept with that I was sleeping with others and they could do the same. My relationship with each varied in length of time. Some couldn't cope with that state for more than a few months, some were fine with it. I learned about lovemaking from each of them. Eventually I grew tired of most or they grew tired of me and in the end only the one who offered me physical, emotional, and mental peace remained. Since then I have very little want to return to those busy days and have entered a comfy monogamous state. My sex deive is satisfied a few times a week but not obsessive and we deliberately give each other privacy and space.

I can tell from your flustered meme posting and your need to denigrate rather than respond rationally that I am not the one who needs to "cope" lol

>> No.16403721

>>16402646
I wasn't talking to you but okay buddy, nice to know.

>> No.16403820

Pathetic incels lol
imagine not getting laid from just being yourself

>> No.16404017

>>16403820
I mean its more like:
1. Don't be a fucking solipsist
2. Be yourself

>> No.16404064

>>16400032
How could people possibly sleep around more freely than they do now? It is as free as it's going to get, nothing is stopping anyone.

>> No.16404077

>>16402646
>I learned about lovemaking
Apes and negroes can do it. I'm sure it's not rocket science, anon.

>> No.16404211

>>16396800
he's LITERALLY me

>> No.16404284

That was Pessoa's heteronyms' views, not his own. His heteronyms all had distinct personalities and views (which were sometimes extreme) which did not reflect Pessoa's own positions. They even contradict themselves, you should really read his books as if they had different authors.

>> No.16404798

>>16402646
You are extremely childish and, likely surprisingly to you, naive.

>> No.16404912

>>16404064

Many people are just scared, men and women alike. They don't understand it can be approached in a healthy way and inevitably injure themselves somehow when they finally reach out. This happened to me once and the solution, inevitably, was to go and try again until I figured things out. I learned how to detect shit people and which flaws were tolerable and which were not.

What I got for my efforts a cute red headed tomboy who loves nordic culture and edits for me. She usually cums twice and falls asleep on me while I read a book. Women are hell, I guess.

>> No.16405125

>>16404912
Imagine how many other dicks have cummed inside her

>> No.16405161

>>16404912
Why do good gfs always sound like pet dogs but with sex

>> No.16405232

>>16405125

And then what? Be scared of the dicks? Mine has also been in plenty of women, I hope thay doesn't spook ya.

>>16405161

I'm not sure but I think very favorably of both.

>> No.16406850

>>16396800
NIGGer

>> No.16408299

>>16400032
Fuck that shit.

I tried having a friends with benefits relationship once and shut that shit with the week. Absolute garbage.
Since then I've been prepositioned by others but have turned them all down because I much prefer just being single to that malarkey.

Give me a healthy monogamous relationship built on communication & respect, or just let me do my own thing lmao.