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Have they, and in what form, play, opera, or script?

>> No.16373114
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>>16373106

>> No.16373117

All the shakespearean shit is in the news.
All the great script writers moved onto social engineering.

>> No.16373205

>>16373117
This is your brain on bugs.

>> No.16373229

>>16373114
Literally who?

>> No.16373241

>>16373229
Eugene O'Neill. His plays Iceman Cometh, Long Day's Journey Into Night, Beyond the Horizon, and Mourning Becomes Electra are some of the greatest tragedies ever written.

>> No.16373271

>>16373205
Im sorry if you dont under stand how stone cold steve austin and kim kardashian are empitomes of shakespearean characters.

>> No.16373376
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>>16373241
Better than Shakespeare and Aeschylus el precedente?

>> No.16373441

>>16373376
Way to totally misread my post and put words in my mouth. I never said Eugene O'Neill was better than Shakespeare or Aeschylus. I answered that there were playwriters, such as Eugene O'Neill (I'd add Ibsen and Shaw to that list to) that reached Shakespeare's level. Never said he was better.

>> No.16373447

>>16373106
The Sopranos is the modern day Shakespearean drama

>> No.16373450

>>16373441
Might as well have said that if you're saying they're equal, but I doubt that Shaw is an artistic equal to Shakespeare.

>> No.16373458

>>16373450
What are you fucking talking about you fucking nitwit?
>Might as well said that if you're saying they're equal

There's a big difference between a playwriter having one or two works that equal the entirety of Shakespeare and saying that that playwriter's whole work is superior to the entirety of Shakespeare. If you can't see that, you are a fucking retard.

>> No.16373476

>>16373458
Well of course you needed to have articulated better that "reached" means "they have one or two plays which can be put on par with Shakespeare", this is entirely your fault or then you blame and insult others for your faults! However that said the figure of Shakespeare and the general value of all of his works makes any particular work on its own still more valuable.

>> No.16373483

>>16373476
Why don't you read the title of this thread again:
>Will the heights of Shakespearean tragedy ever be reached again in the modern age?

I used the term 'reached' as a way continue the conversation of great tragedies in the modern age. Which, by the way, Eugene O'Neill's "Long Day's Journey Into Night" definitely does.

>> No.16373509

>>16373483
However, I should also note, I never said that you said they were better than Shakespeare in the first place, you misread my post, after your response I was implying that raising any other writer/poet to the level of Shakespeare holds the same question, and then you replied in a rude spiel.

>> No.16373536

>low IQ
his tragedies are amazing
>mid IQ
his tragedies fail utterly as tragedies
>high IQ
the plots of his plays arent important at all, even completely irellevent, its the beautiful writing that makes them good

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>my opinion:
>Shakespeare is bad at story's and only a good poet

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>my opinion:
>Shakespeare is bad at story's and only a good aesthetician-poet

>> No.16373600

>>16373106
The Wire
The Godfather Parts 1&2
The Sopranos

These are the first things that come to mind when the word Shakespearean in film/TV comes up.

>> No.16373610
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>Will

>> No.16373686

post the chart about Beowulf translations.

>> No.16373719

>>16373686
The movie was better.

>> No.16374210

>>16373600
You are absolutely insipid. I wish /tv/ would stop sharing their garbage opinions here.

>> No.16374226

>>16373719
The movie has as much artistic value as hollywood action shit like like Rambo or Predator.

>> No.16374231

>>16374210
The OP literally included script in his question. I was just answering that. Wish you could read, faggot.

>> No.16374235

>>16374231
>boomer gangster shows have scripts comparable to Shakespeare
Absolute state.

>> No.16374257

>>16374235
I said that they were Shakespearean, meaning that they have traits of Shakespeare in them. Sorry if I think that other writers in other mediums can achieve Shakespearean aesthetic and themes.

>> No.16374262

>>16374257
Oh my God, KILL YOURSELF.

>> No.16374308

>>16374262
Dude, please tell me how Michael Corleone's descent into the "family business" after trying to be the straight one of the family not Shakespearean? How is the motif of Vito Corleone dying with family all by his side, and playing with his grandson, while Michael Corleone dies by himself with no family and still holding the guilt over killing his brother not Shakespearean? I've even read scholarly articles comparing Macbeth to Michael Corleone. Like thematically, characteristically, metaphorically, symbolically, and even plot-wise The Godfather has traits of Shakespeare's tragedy. Please display your arguments other wise.

>> No.16374374

>>16374226
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku-z_hvgG10
>implying this doesn't easily trump the existentialism of a Dostoevsky

>> No.16374388

>>16374374
>literally shrek

>> No.16374391

>>16374308
Not him, but you are a teenager, I can tell by your writing style. That is not a bad thing, but I did want to say this.

>thematically, characteristically, metaphorically, symbolically, and even plot-wise