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Peter Frost claims that around the end of the last major ice age (Young Dryas which ended around 8000-7000 bc), male population was an extremely small portion of the population. men to women ratio at around 8000 bc was estimated to be 1:17 in europe and northern asia. so for every man there were 17 women.

This period led to an extreme selection pressure for women. He claims that blonde hair blue eyes are so much more common among women than in man because man find women with lighter features to be more attractive while women find men with darker features more attractive. Due to the fact that there were so few men around, only women with lighter hair and eyes would successfully breed, leading to large differences in colours between men and women in northern european population.

Also he claims that in pretty much all human socieites, people with lighter skin occupy higher strata while darker people occupy lower strata because men with higher status choose to marry women with lighter features, and men with lower status marry darker women.

According to templer (2006) skin lightness and iq correlates at 0.92. Also according to Woodley, IQ correlates weakly with hair brightness and eye colour brightness.

>> No.16368990

>>16368983
This is a literary fiction board

>> No.16369002

>>16368990
in literature, women with lighter features are heroines while wome witn darker features are witches and evil

>> No.16369021

>>16369002
Wrong

>> No.16369026

Someone please just start posting korra porn to both prove OP wrong and get the thread deleted. This is a fucking literature board.

>> No.16369029

>>16368983
Really liked his early poetry, his later work is more obscure and lost much of the immediateness and simplicity that made me like him so much. If you plan on reading it anyway, make sure you study each poem individually with a focus on the imagery, which can be quite unsettling at times.

>> No.16369036

>>16369026
I-i really want to see that.

>> No.16369041
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>>16368983

>> No.16369042

>>16368983
>skin lightness and iq correlates at 0.92.

In areas of the world where the weather is colder (and people have lighter skin), you have to plan your survival far in advance of the cold season. This situation is bad for retards and good for smart people.

>> No.16369046

>>16369041
This scene is such fap material for nerds. As if anyone in reality at a bar would give a flying fuck about who read what history books or the economies of colonial America.

>> No.16369047

>>16369042
Then why did the dumber Neanderthals evolve in Europe and the smarter modern humans evolve in Africa? Cold winter theory BTFO

>> No.16369051

>>16369046
The whole movie is insincere emotional appeal. Only reason to ever think about it is how fantastic Robin Williams is in it.

>> No.16369059

>>16369047
The Neaderthals died out, so that kind of proves my point. As for humans in Africa, they got smarter as they moved north.

>> No.16369062

evolutionary biology is the biggest lie in existence haha, it has pervaded every single discipline and discourse in the last decade

if you believe in it you are part of the masses, in the aristotelian sense of the word, you are not, you are just matter, upon which history unfolds

>> No.16369083

>>16369051
The other thing that's always bothered me about it is that we're supposed to think Will Hunting is some well-read genius, but with the exception of the beginning of the movie we never see him studying or reading anything. He spends most of the movie drinking and getting in fights.

Williams is great though, yeah.

>> No.16369093

>>16369062
>evolutionary biology

Yeah. How would organisms be influenced by their environment? Utter bullshit.

>> No.16369104

>>16369059
Tell me, why didn't the Neanderthals become smart?

>> No.16369119

>>16368990

fpbp

sage

>> No.16369134

Someone post korra smut pls

>> No.16369159

>>16368983
>because man find women with lighter features to be more attractive while women find men with darker features more attractive
Inb4 this post is used as basis to argued the BBC phenomenon is a fact of nature.

>> No.16369179

>>16369104
Evolutionary pressure doesn't select intelligence necessarily. It selects traits that help organisms survive. You don't always need to be particularly smart if you are fast or strong instead, since these traits will help you survive even if you're dumb. Neanderthals were strong enough to survive for the period that they did without a need to be extraordinarily intelligent. So the answer is that they didn't become smart because they didn't need to be smart to get to the point that they did.

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16369180

just gonna leave this here

>> No.16369186

>>16368990
Everything that OP said is made up fucking nonsense. It fits perfect.

>> No.16369189

>glowing eyes
>hard abs
>big tits
>fat ass
>chocolate skin
>fair features
>puppy dog personality

I wish korra were real bros.

>> No.16369199

>>16369179
>So the answer is that they didn't become smart because they didn't need to be smart to get to the point that they did.
Then why would humans, lol?

>> No.16369206

>>16369083
Sorry, I should have been more specific. Half of the issue is that it's insincere, shallow emotionality (it's just a Hollywood movie, after all), the other half is that the basis of the movie is this unstable fetishization of intelligence that doesn't actually exist. (This is what you've said bothers you, I think). Put those together and you've got exactly what it is - a movie about what someone thinks a smart person is like, written by a college duo likely fresh out of a bar and experiencing l'esprit de l'escalier.

I'm off to wipe this negativity out by listening to the bench scene. Your Move, Kid.

>> No.16369230

Perfectly example of why this board is awful. Just straight up ignore/insult what they don't agree with instead of countering with anything they've read/studied.

>> No.16369241

>>16369083
Do you really not get that he had clearly spent much of his early life being a complete fucking nerd but decided to hide it when he was exposed to life with the boys.
Why do you think Affleck's character wants him to not be there one day. He knows that he is a wasted genius.

>> No.16369246

>>16369230
logic and reasoning are signs of white supremacy. you must be a racist

>> No.16369258

>>16369246
Logically korra is best girl

>> No.16369263

>>16368983
>This period led to an extreme selection pressure for women.
bullshit, one man would just fuck 17 women.

>> No.16369273

>>16369199
>Then why would humans, lol?

Because they're physically weaker. If you're physically weak or slow compared to other organisms you're in competition with, you need to be smarter in order to survive.

>> No.16369279

>>16369273
If they were strong enough to survive, why didn't they survive?

>> No.16369291

>>16369279
Because survival of the fittest means the most adaptable survive, not that the most muscular do

>> No.16369295

>>16369180
Small bee sting tits are more attractive anyways

>> No.16369298

>>16368983
literarily speaking, i like the look of her tits

>> No.16369329

>>16369279
big and strong bodies requires more resources. When food is scarce the Neanderthals die out, where humans could get by.

>> No.16369343

>>16369273
But even Neanderthals were capable of hunting and surviving in the Arctic. And Lynn likes to claim that the brain sizes of those in the northern climates increased but the archaeological record shows a decrease in brain size and this is not in agreement with Lynn's hypothesis.

>> No.16369384

>>16369329
If that was the case, why wouldn't intelligence start being selected for?

>> No.16369393

>>16369384
intelligence is negatively correlated with fertility at -.1

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>>16369279
They did moron. White people are Neanderthal descendants. Cope.

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>>16369393
>thinking IQ = intelligence
>mapping garbage modern psych studies on to just so stories

>> No.16369407

>>16369329
>When food is scarce the Neanderthals die out, where humans could get by.

Humans require a lot of calories to power their unusually large brains though. And isn't it thought that Neanderthals went extinct because of competition with humans?

>> No.16369408

>>16369047
Neanderthals weren't dumber. They were less social, less frequent breeders. The chan autists of their day.

>> No.16369426

>>16369408
They didn't develop a sophisticated culture and lacked creative thinking and made no art. They were dumb as rocks but still managed to survive for a hundred thousands years in the Arctic.

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>>16369408
>They were less social, less frequent breeders. The chan autists of their day.

And humans still banged the shit out of them.

>> No.16369444

>>16369426
>lacked creative thinking and made no art
Sage goes in every field.

>> No.16369453

>>16369426
Incorrect, they did make art. They were very spiritual people.

>>16369427
I'd like to see your smarts against a gang of joggers.

>> No.16369465

>>16369453
>I'd like to see your smarts against a gang of joggers.

I'd be smart enough to use a tool. I own several tools invented by white engineers that are made for such a purpose.

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>>16368983
What's the fucking contention here? That cavepeople were monogamous and consensual in their breeding? If they weren't monogamous (which is equally supported by evidence in the form of preferences for genetic diversity) then they'd be breeding with all sorts of women regardless of features (ugly bitches have always been knocked up, even today when there is birth control and other outlets for sexual desire, and survival doesn't depend upon reproduction). If they weren't consensual, which we can presume they weren't since most premodern and some contemporary societies aren't consensual, then a man's features are likewise irrelevant. Not to mention saying women prefer darker features and men lighter makes the whole outcome of the children's features more of a lottery; it also contradicts the notion that lighter people occupy a higher status since darker men are more desirable. One"s features and status as related to darkness or lightness of complexion should be sex dependent.) Not to mention ideals of beauty so obviously change over time that this clinging just to hair and eye colour as the prime criteria of selection of all things is a laughable cope.

>> No.16369474

>>16369465
Those inventors didn't exist until after the eugenic effects of the Hajnal line.

>> No.16369481

>>16369180
lol

4chan focusing on the big ideas as usual

>> No.16369486

>>16369465
ur a tool

>> No.16369814

>>16369295
Cope