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Who's your favorite poet, /lit/?

>> No.16360269

Steve Roggenbuck

>> No.16360430

I've been on a Mark Strand kick lately, he does some interesting things with rhyme and enjambment

>> No.16360436

Emily Dickinson

>> No.16360472

>>16360258
Ah, David
Can't help but think he would've really dug the virus paranoia, the forest fires and the racial unrest, etc. that has characterized 2020 so far. RIP
Been rereading Ammons lately

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>>16360258

>> No.16360737

>>16360258
Hölderlin, Pushkin.

>> No.16360950
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16360950

this edgy motherfucker

>> No.16361012

me

>> No.16362233

>>16360472
He absolutely wouldn't, man. His situation (brain damage due to drug abuse) was kinda hopeless and his mother dying and divorce didn't help.

>> No.16362255
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the one and only

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>>16360486
chadley

>> No.16362414

>>16360258
mallarmé

>>16360436
simp

>> No.16362426

>>16362405
>>16360486
favourite collection?

>> No.16362438

>>16362233
Brain damage? Is there any interviews where he talk about this? He seemed pretty sharp before he went, Purple Mountains has some of his best writing on it

>> No.16362553

op, check out James Tate if you like Berman

>> No.16362656

>>16362414
>mallarmé
baby's first poet

>> No.16362664

>>16362426
Obviously Crow.

>> No.16362703

>>16362664
i found crow really one-note and tedious to read desu

>> No.16362720

>>16362233
Disagree, but not strongly
He had a perverse way of looking at things and social novelties often drew his mind away from all his personal crap, though I admit for only relatively brief periods of time. But 2020's been like no other year anyone alive now's ever experienced, and I just think he would have relished it, engaged it, responded to it. This thought actually passed through my mind back in late March.

>> No.16362744

>>16360737
Please recommend some Holderlin. Noob here. Thanks.

>> No.16362755

>>16362744
dif anon
His novella Hyperion first

>> No.16362772

>>16362755
Thanks a lot. Any specific translations?

>> No.16362830

>>16362772
In English I just read a cheap though very old Signet paperback and it was adequate.

>> No.16363128

>>16362553
Ahead of you, anon.

He's great :)

>> No.16363168

Frank O'hara

>> No.16363707

>>16360258
>Working right now
Monica Youn. Essayistic, trained and practicing lawyer until she published 3 collections and was a finalist for the National Book Award. Great use of assonance and long lines but very strong across styles. 2nd and 3rd books are quality "concept albums".

>Contemporary but not producing any more
Ben Lerner. His first two books are insane - best sonnet sequence since Ted Berrigan in The Lichtenberg Figures. Best harnessing of 21st century American tongue that doesn't degrade into self-satire or masturbation like Flarf poets. Totally different styles show his flexibility and his themes are complex yet well-manicured in each collection. His third book was a strenuous experiment in form that fell a bit flat, and now he's sold out as a major fiction writer after his first novel was a runaway success. The anxious DFW of the millennials.

>All time
Wallace Stevens. Greatest attempt at saying the unsayable and essential: not just jerking off with word games. One of the few poets whose powers only rose with age and whose later work strides through metaphysical epiphanies. His failure is great - he never got past the barrier of what he was trying to say - but only because his attempt and audacity was great. Stevens worked hard to describe the structure of reality with new language the way Heidegger said it must necessarily be done.

>Older/Honorable Mentions
Hopkins, Donne, Dickinson, Whitman

>> No.16363754

>>16362703
What's yours, then.

>> No.16363771

>>16363707
Are you monolingual or something

>> No.16363790

>>16360258
How should I start with Silver J*ws?

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>> No.16363827

>>16363754
Moortown Diary

>> No.16363834

>>16363771
No. Are you?

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>>16362656
brainlet detected

>> No.16363920

>>16362656
mallarmé is god-tier you absolute fucking brainlet. you're only trolling me because i called someone a simp for liking emily dickinson, so you're a simp too. kys

>> No.16363948

>>16360258
Bukowski

>> No.16363978

>>16363790
American Water I suppose is the go to but I'd began at the beginning
>There is a house
>In New Orleans
>Not the one you heard about I'm talkin' 'bout another house...

>> No.16363986

>>16363978
*begin, derrr

>> No.16363995

Whitman? Rilke maybe? I've never really thought about it

>> No.16364002

>>16360258
Favorite's Marvell

>> No.16364171

>>16362255
The doors are great... Because of the other members. Jim is a fucking autist.

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boipucci

>> No.16365458

>>16363978
>well there's trouble in the hall
>trouble up the stairs
>trouble in the trouble that's troublin' the air...

>> No.16365993

>>16364218
I want to like Rimbaud, but I can't get into him spare a couple poems. I liked "sensation" enough to memorize it though.

>> No.16366013

>>16363707
I need to check out those Lerner books. I read his essay on why people hate poetry and I enjoyed it a lot. it is weird how important poetry was always made out to be until a hundred years ago or so. Now most laymen despise it, or at least say they do.

>> No.16366238

>>16364218
THIS IS TRASH.

I'll never understand why he's so highly rated. He just cries all the time about having a bad deal. Tough luck nigger.

>> No.16366243

>>16363707
>Monica Youn
Get your head checked please. And your pussy too.

>> No.16366258

>>16363707
>Stevens worked hard to describe the structure of reality with new language the way Heidegger said it must necessarily be done.
do you really like the smell of your farts this much? Heidegger never said that anywhere in any book. Cite a source.

>> No.16366342

I wonder what /lit/ thinks of Frank Stanford

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV6oSjsG7o4

>> No.16366354

T.S. Eliot

>> No.16366362

>>16360258
Tennyson

>> No.16366440

>>16364218
I dislike the fact he criticized Christianity, but from the other side his story with Verlaine seems to be a good plot for a movie today. Besides that if someone would do the same today, he wouldnt be that popular I guess.

>> No.16366808

>>16360258
he reminds me of my dad

>> No.16368417

frantic bump

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>>16363920
>this assmad over 3 words

>> No.16368518

>>16366342
Just ordered a collection from him

>> No.16368626

>>16366258
He literally says that a more poetic language will be necessary in Being & Time but ok

>>16366013
Get The Lichtenberg Figures on ebay or something. It's the shortest, most focused, and funniest. The combinations of academic and theoretical language with slang and idiom are awesome, the individual sonnet structures as well as the overall structure of the book are interesting. Just fun to read.

>> No.16368641

either Margaret Atwood, Whitman, or Bukowski

>> No.16368734

>>16368626
>>16366258
Some Heidegger works specifically on poetry to get you started: Poetry, Language, Thought; Elucidations of Holderlin's Poetry. You know, just the major essays he wrote concerning poetic language, its potential, its ability to convey knowledge of reality, and analysis of Holderlin as well as comments on Rilke and others. Is that enough for you? Fuck off, you clearly don't read.

>> No.16368746

>>16360258
whose the guy in op's picture

>> No.16368956

>>16368746
I am.

>> No.16369024

>>16363790
American Water for sure. Very comfy record

>> No.16369035

>>16360258

Emily Dickinson or Louise Gluck

>> No.16369126

>>16363168
Cute

>> No.16369138

>>16362656
>t. doesn’t read Mallarmé in French
Embarrassing.

>> No.16369148

>>16368746
Don’t listen to >>16368956, it’s me.

>> No.16369161

>>16368956
>>16369148
samefag

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>>16369161
Um, try again sweetie !

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>>16360258
le bukowskows

>> No.16369491

>>16360950
best answer, I wish I could read him in german

>> No.16369497

JULES LAFORGUUUUUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
this man was born, wrote some nice poems, then died. nothing happened between those events

>> No.16369646

toilet.s. probably. A lot of people here seem to dislike him but the way he manages to meld more traditional literary forms with his fairly radical and forward thinking verse is pretty great. I also don't find his work to be nearly as sterile as some people make it out to be.

>> No.16369700

>>16368626
I'll pick that one up, thanks for the rec

>> No.16369966

>>16362438
>Berman dealt with substance abuse through the 1990s and early 2000s, using crack, heroin and methamphetamine.[24] He unintentionally overdosed twice,[25] including one occasion in Manhattan on an unspecified drug following the album release party for Bright Flight.[24][26]

On November 19, 2003, Berman attempted suicide in Nashville by attempting to consume 300 Xanax pills combined with crack cocaine.[25] When he was discovered by his wife Cassie, he refused hospitalization, and instead demanded to be brought to the Loews Vanderbilt Hotel (the location where Vice President Al Gore had stayed for two weeks during the 2000 election recounts).[25] At the front desk, Berman demanded (and received) the "Al Gore suite"; while riding the elevator up to the room, told the bellhop, "I want to die where the presidency died!" He was eventually taken to Vanderbilt University Medical Center.[25] Around a year later, he checked in for drug rehab at the Hazelden Foundation. The episode was later detailed at length by Nick Weidenfeld in an article for Fader titled "Dying in the Al Gore Suite".[25] When asked about his sobriety during a 2019 interview, Berman stated, "I was only 100% sober for Tanglewood Numbers. Touring made me a daily pot smoker. It was the only way I could cordon myself off from the fuss, and endure the boredom. I was a daily smoker from 2006 to 2009."[24] However, he never again used hard drugs following his recovery. He also noted that "Alcohol on its own doesn't appeal to me much."[24]
How do you think it affected his brain? Same goes for a lot of people who kill themself later in life, there is a common pattern of substance abuse earlier in life. Berman mentioned that his depression was UNTREATABLE, so we can make some assumptions why.
>>16362720
He was living like a hermit since 2008, man, corona would fuck with his finances even more. I get what you talking about but even he did all that he would probably killed himself in the summer.

>> No.16370256

>>16368746
David Berman

>> No.16370518

>>16360258
Gustavo Adolfo Bécquer, aka the GOAT

>> No.16370564

>>16366440
They made one, called Total Eclipse, with Leo Dicaprio as Rimbaud and David Thewlis as Verlaine. Pretty good.

>> No.16370573

>>16360258
Me. Very underrated tho

>> No.16370838

>>16368734
>>16368626
Heidegger says language is silent.

YOU FUCK OFF