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I just wanted to ask if any of you guys can provide with a nice list of works to get me started on Stoicism.

>> No.16345157

>>16345134
Enchiridion by Epictetus. On the shortness of life by Seneca.

>> No.16345159

>>16345134
You don't need any prior reading, Plato would help I guess just to see where they are coming from. But you can just start with the 'big three' in Stoicism. Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus and Seneca, respectively.
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius.
The Discorses and Enchiridion by Epictetus.
Letters from a Stoic and Dialogues and Essays by Seneca.
If you're a Christian there's a great book about how Stoicism is compatible with Christian beliefs, while giving a history and overview of the Stoics and their ideas called The Porch and The Cross.

>> No.16345162

>>16345159
>>16345157
Thank you. I shall read them.

>> No.16345289

>>16345134
Go back

>> No.16345316

>>16345134
I would recommend learning how to read philosophy first.A good starting point:
http://www.jimpryor.net/teaching/guidelines/reading.html

>> No.16345326

The absolute state of things

>> No.16345399

>>16345159
These are all good suggestions and I would add that before you read the stoic texts, its a good idea to be familiar with virtue ethics in general. At least read the wiki pages on virtue ethics and stoicism.

There are particular phrases that are used, especially in the Meditations and the Enchiridion, that have a precise meaning. When a stoic 2000 years ago talks about "living in accordance with nature" he means a very different thing than what a modern reader might interpret. You might run into some confusion and misinterpret things because of this.

>> No.16345428

>>16345399
This is good advice, I think some of these will be mentioned in the introductions to the books, depending on the edition. I feel like mine did at least.

>> No.16345461

Hello my fellow aryan, welcome to /pol/2.0
here's all you need to know about stoicism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FinMGtpTud0
praise kek!

>> No.16345565

>>16345134
Anything by Epictetus and Seneca

>> No.16345595

>>16345134
Just learn Latin and read the originals

>> No.16347140
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>>16345134
Seneca's letters, as others have suggested, is probably the best start, really anything by Seneca or Epictetus from there if you're compelled to read more. Can read Aurelius too, but keep in mind it's not a work of Stoic philosophy in the true sense, it's a collection of detached points and self-intended notes from his diary. Still good, but it's going to be better to read the prominent and dedicated Stoic thinkers, rather than the diary of an emperor who was a stoic on the side