help save a very smart kid

[Anonymous No.16266200]

friend of family has a highly gifted boy, about to turn 14.
father not in the picture
mother is very good to him, but busy.
boy is lonely and smart af, in super-gifted program...
...BUT they mostly do math and science which is fine but this kid loves fiction, reads voraciously.

he doesn't seem to have male role models.
when I'm there, he wants to know all my old stories/adventures, what I'd do in this or that situation, etc. I tell him what I can, but I'm not hero, still he really eats it up.

so, I want to start him with a bookshelf of serious literature with good strong male role models.

I asked a prof, she recommended:
>Adolphe by Benjamin Constant
>The Sorrows of Young Werther by Goethe
but these are NOT role models, they're annoying wimps.
HELP!

tl;dr: masculine role models in great literature needed

[Anonymous No.16266210]

you are not smart

[Anonymous No.16266226]

>>16266200
>serious literature with good strong male role models
Jordan B. Peterson books

[Anonymous No.16266227]

>>16266200
Pay for sex

[Anonymous No.16266245]

>>16266210
no shit, that's why I'm asking for help

>>16266227
he's 14

[Anonymous No.16266250]

>>16266210
>>16266227
Feeling especially useless today, are we?

>>16266200
I wish I could recommend something. Maybe Diomedes in the Iliad. Or perhaps, seeing as he likes to read so much and is himself looking for a male role model, just give some good books and let him figure it out for himself. He will mostly anyways.

[Anonymous No.16266315]

>>16266200
Solo Faces by James Salter
The Road by Cormac McCarthy
To Kill a Mockingbird by Lee
Last of the Mohicans by Cooper

[Anonymous No.16266323]

>>16266200
Alexander von Humboldt. One good and easy book about him is "The Invention of Nature", by Andrea Wulf.
Theodore Roosevelt. "The Wilderness Warrior: Theodore Roosevelt and the Crusade for America", by Douglas Brinkley, may be good for your purposes.
If you're American, "Robinson Crusoe", by Daniel Defoe is good for your cultural background.
I don't know he'd be able to power through it, given the long descriptions, but "Nostromo", by Joseph Conrad is nice, too.
"Germinal", by Émile Zola. The old socialists were very different from today's. It's a good YA novel, teaches determination.
"An Enemy of the People", by Henrik Ibsen.
Might want to check out some Jack London, too.

[Anonymous No.16266398]

>>16266245
Proust's parent's bought him a whore when he was 13 because they were worried he was masturbating too much.

[Anonymous No.16266414]

>>16266398
Desu will probably do that for my son if it seems to be a problem

[Anonymous No.16266431]

>>16266398

[Anonymous No.16266472]

>>16266200
Orages d'acier (or whatever the fuck anglo-niggers call it) by Ernst Jünger and the Iliad

[Anonymous No.16266484]

>>16266200
I think you are approaching this with a much too instrumental view of literature as well as a narrow view of what intelligence is and needs. This boy needs a broad view of the world. Reading about strong male role models won't fill the hole left by his own father, it might just make it worse, because you will be pushing him deeper into missing his father instead of making the boy a well-balanced and intellectual person. Gift him books that will show him the many facets of the world and of humanity, including the bad and pitiful, while also rooting him in conviction and belief in the human spirit. A sheltered aristocrat with literary male role models won't fare as well in this world as would a person with a broad base in the world of literature and art. To be a strong person is to face (and not shun) many differing and opposing views and perspectives while still being true to your own conviction.

[Anonymous No.16266489]

>>16266210
Fuck off, faggot

[Anonymous No.16266507]

>>16266200
I read the Forever War around that age

[Anonymous No.16266513]

>>16266200
Tolkien.

[Anonymous No.16266526]

>>16266507
>>16266323
>>16266315
>>16266226
>>16266250
>>16266513
Very bad suggestions. These suggestions will just scar the boy because he's 14 and these are boring adult tier pretentious books for pencil necked armchair enthusiasts

[Anonymous No.16266527]

>>16266200
Buy him Bronze Age mindset

[Anonymous No.16266534]

>>16266200
Get him to read jakob bohme and then hegel

[Anonymous No.16266541]

>>16266534
>jakob bohme
starter book?

[Anonymous No.16266543]

>>16266526
i'm sure you have excellent suggestions

[Anonymous No.16266545]

>>16266543
Harry Potter

[Anonymous No.16266562]

>>16266200

[DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.16266576]

>>16266227
Why? OP can do it himself for FREE

[Anonymous No.16266622]

Fuck his mother and become the male model dumbass gay

[Anonymous No.16266633]

>>16266489
no.

[DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.16266634]

>>16266633
based

[Anonymous No.16266640]

>>16266210
sorry annon i skimmed through your post thinking it was a «my ‘friend’ needs help xd» type post. I dont have any books for you im afraid, but i hope you find something for him. Im proud of you for taking care of this kid, it means more to him than you can imagine.

[Anonymous No.16266646]

Make him read Hemingway
Also read Sound of the Waves.

[Anonymous No.16266716]

Moby Dick, obviously.

[Anonymous No.16266717]

Confederacy of Dunces.

On the Road The Original Scroll

[Anonymous No.16266749]

>>16266200
you're not "saving" anyone, you retarded scum

[Anonymous No.16266756]

Chekhov's short stories.

[Anonymous No.16266760]

>>16266484
This. Take the kid hunting or something.

[Anonymous No.16266767]

>>16266200
for my legionnaires by corneliu zelea codreanu

[Anonymous No.16266801]

>>16266200
God damn man isn't it obvious? Start with the Greeks and Romans. Read Herodotus, the Greek plays, Plutarch, etc.

[Anonymous No.16266889]

>>16266749
I'm trying to help someone.
But what are you doing?

[Anonymous No.16266919]

<--- maybe this?

[Anonymous No.16266963]

>>16266200
Homer is an obvious choice

[Anonymous No.16267120]

Navel gazing isn't the answer. Get the kid into team sports or some other sort of activity that puts him into contact with other males.

[Anonymous No.16267148]

>>16266200

[Anonymous No.16267174]

>>16266200
count of monte cristo, my man

[Anonymous No.16267544]

>>16266200
the oddyessy

[Anonymous No.16267687]

>>16266200
Just take him to the book store every so often and give him $100. If he is as smart as you say, he is the best person the decide what he needs to read.

[Anonymous No.16267948]

>>16266545
try Rudyard Kipling, Conan Doyle, George Orwell, Aldous Huxley, Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac Asimov, Joseph Conrad, Philip K Dick, Charles Dickens, Mark Twain, CS Lewis, Borges, Wilde, Chekhov, Tolkien, Stephenson, Salinger, Oates, to just name a few

If I could digest Vonnegut at the age of 12 then this kid should have no problem with the aforementioned, even if only as a literary amuse bouche

[Anonymous No.16267972]

>>16267687
taste develops with age—an intelligent 14 year old will still inevitably read a higher ratio of shit than a less intelligent 24 year old will who's still interested in literature

it takes a second to understand that michel serres is significantly more interesting than many of his more popular contemporaries like derrida

[Anonymous No.16268003]

>>16266200
Conan

[Anonymous No.16268018]

>>16266200
Give him a bit of everything.

[Anonymous No.16268019]

>>16266749
>>16266210
why the misanthropy?

>>16266200
GET HIM IN A SPORTS TEAM. That is far more important than to make him read books.

[Anonymous No.16268023]

>>16267972
Thats a value judgement, not an objective fact. If he is the voracious reader OP says he is, he will find his way. Telling someone that they should only read what you find worthy is a pretty sure way to turn them off reading, or at least give them an aversion those books.

[Anonymous No.16268075]

>>16268023
i never said taste was these platonic ideal of what is perceivably good, but that it develops with age, necessarily

it's a process of trial and error

i didn't claim someone has to read exactly what someone else has told them to read in order to ascertain what's good or interesting, my examplee
pertained to me—arguing for its universal applicability is a separate issue

[Anonymous No.16268084]

>>16266562
um hello, can i have a cup of that based juice?

[Anonymous No.16268087]

>>16268023
regardless, saying 'X isn't an objective fact' is necessarily a subject proposition, whether objectively true or not

X may very well be objectively true, however for you to claim with objectivity that it lacks any objectivity or not is an error of misguided subjectivity

[Anonymous No.16268121]

>>16266200
>literature with strong male role models
Holy cringe. Let him read proper books by people like Goethe and become a spiritual aristocrat, don’t force him to read your decadent dudebro nonsense. By making him read literature with "positive" role modes you will just turn him into one of those neurotic faggots constantly thirsting for motivation and reaffirmation (Like you). Just give him some Ancient Greeks if you want the masculine angle.

[Anonymous No.16268136]

>>16268087
I never once claimed objectivity, but since neither you nor I can demonstrate what is an objective truth in this case might as let the little fucker find his own subjective truth.

Yes i too was once 18 and played such pointless logic games.

[Anonymous No.16268181]

>>16266200
Shogun by James Clavell is a great read. If you haven't read it's an English guy on a Dutch ship that accidentally lands in Japan. It's really great

[Anonymous No.16268185]

>>16266200
War and Peace

[Anonymous No.16268198]

>>16266200
The Ego and Its Own
Thus Spoke Zarathustra
The Immoralist

[Anonymous No.16268598]

>>16266200
If he reads french, get him Amos D'Aragon. It's a heroic and fantastic serie for young boys (i read it when I was 10-12 but maybe he'll like it) and it has inspirations from many classics. I wouldn't like reading today had I not Read this when I was younger.

[Anonymous No.16268619]

>>16266200
Dude you need to make him read the Iliad and the Oddisey, you know how it goes "Start with...

[Anonymous No.16268688]

>>16268136
"a value judgement, not an objective fact"

logic game—do you only call it that when you lose?

language isn't pointless, my dear watson

[Anonymous No.16268703]

>>16267948
>If I could digest Vonnegut at the age of 12 then this kid should have no problem with the aforementioned, even if only as a literary amuse bouche

Ugh... cringe, for so many reasons

[Anonymous No.16268715]

>>16266200
The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin is exactly what you're looking for.

[Anonymous No.16268730]

>>16268688
I never said it was, but you knew what I meant, you are playing games.

[Anonymous No.16268738]

At the risk of sounding like a fag, I was a lot like the boy you described at that age. My father wasn't there, was very quiet, in the gifted program along with all advanced classes, etc. The main difference was that my mom and older sister abused me quite a bit and I grew up in poverty, so around 15 I got into drugs and fell into some pretty bad depression/DPDR/PTSD and only pulled myself out of it 2 years later - after getting kicked out of school already a bunch of times. I cannot stress enough the importance of having male role models in such a situation and at such an age; you should try to talk to him as much as you can, and teach him about things like virtue, loyalty, the difference between superficial and real friendship, etc.

In terms of literature and that sort of thing, firstly I'd recommend you to introduce him to history, especially the history of great leaders and conquerors like Alexander the Great and Napoleon. If he already uses the internet, introduce him to "Epic History TV" (he has amazing playlists and videos on those two above) and also "Fire of Learning" (he has very good videos on historical periods, civilizations and nations). If he doesn't use the internet, don't even mention it, this place is hell. It would also be good to introduce him to spiritual people like the Saints and such. Give him the Iliad/Odyssey, both are very good books even for a younger kid. You should get him some Nordic/Hellenic mythology too, his age group eats that shit up. Anything dealing with both virtue and masculinity is good, if you give him just one direction or the other he'll become lopsided.
Don't do this >>16268198 If you're going to get him into philosophy, start him with the Greeks. Giving him Nietzsche or Stirner will only turn him into a massive cock sucking nihilist faggot, just like this poster.
>>16267948
You are very cool, anon! You could read "hard.book" that early? Well done!

[Anonymous No.16268866]

>>16266200
Anything by Robert e Howard. Beowulf isn't a bad option either.

[Anonymous No.16268994]

He needs friends and a summer job.
Preventing him from becoming a neet is more important than anything else.

[Anonymous No.16269006]

>>16266200
Goethe would actually be very good for him, but not Werther. Look into Wilhelm Meister's Apprenticeship. It's exactly what he needs.

[Anonymous No.16269007]

Always always always Don Quixote.

[Anonymous No.16269038]

>>16268019
>why the misanthropy

just this boards resident femcel seething.

[Anonymous No.16269041]

>>16266200
The odyssey, or greek mythology in general

[Anonymous No.16269105]

Anything by Jack London - Self determination, laws of nature
Chekhov's short stories - An honest look at different motivations
Demian by Herman Hesse - More self determination

[Anonymous No.16269196]

>>16266200
Give him Faust

[Anonymous No.16269351]

>>16266200
Industrial Society and Its Future

[Anonymous No.16269469]

I might be biased cause I just read them, but Odd John and Sirius. They both have highly intelligent, thoughtful protagonists who can still be cruel and callous, but ultimately try to do good while making sense of the world.

[Anonymous No.16269511]

>>16269351
This. Perfect read for high IQed fellas

[Anonymous No.16269522]

Give him some Savitri Devi books.

[Anonymous No.16269679]

>>16268703
>Ugh... cringe
XD
>for so many reasons
not stating reasons

[Anonymous No.16269766]

>>16268598
Not OP, can you recommend some easier to read french works?

[Anonymous No.16269798]

Walden

[Anonymous No.16269803]

>>16266541
Aurora, Three Principles, 40 Questions on the Soul and Magnum Mysterium. Imo Bohme is a hidden key to understanding Schelling/Hegel.

[Anonymous No.16269918]

Teach him to be an unhinged sociopath who only desires money and sex and that love and trusting people is a weakness he must purge from his body.

[Anonymous No.16269994]

>>16269766
If you want something short, somewhat easy and yet still "lit", read the shorter works of Éric Emmanuel-Schmitt (such as Lorsque j'étais une oeuvre d'art) or any short stories by french post-modernists. Don't listen to what some here will tell you, french post-modernism is actually good and a good introduction to french literature.

[Anonymous No.16270053]

are you actually well read yourself?
I would recommend the Odyssey (lattimore translation), and that you discuss the book with him

if you know how to do things like hunt or fish, those would be good, but it depends on how much you want to take him under your wing

[Anonymous No.16270075]

>>16269994
>french post-modernism is actually good
Sure! Are you perchance a member of the tribe?

[Anonymous No.16270084]

The Confessions of Saint Augustine

[Anonymous No.16270104]

>>16266472
I second this.

[Anonymous No.16270110]

>>16269994
>Oh ohhh anon, ohh anon pas ça, pas ça anon, , oh non, oh non, pas ça, pas aujourd'hui, pas maintenant, pas après tout ce que tu as fait, aie aie aie
Schmitt is shit, shit is Schmitt. What are you gonna recommend next? Werber? Musso? The yellow pages?
Try some Malraux, Mauriac, Maupassant or Daudet.

[Anonymous No.16270140]

>>16266200
reminds me of when I was a precocious wee lad posting on 4chan / the internet in general looking for advice for 'my little brother' or 'my son'

good luck kid

[Anonymous No.16270154]

>>16266200
Small gods terry pratchett

[Anonymous No.16270178]

>>16266200
Hand him Aesop's Fables and encourage him to contemplate its meaning. I believe its an appropriate launch pad into manhood.

[Anonymous No.16270192]

Start with the Greeks bro. Why do you think we still refer to them to this day? Go with the Greeks

[Anonymous No.16270217]

>>16270075
Meaning french?
>>16270110
Shit take, you just outed yourself as an anglo that never read schmitt

[Anonymous No.16270353]

>>16270217
Écoute mon con: quand la meilleure recommandation qu’on peut donner rapidement c’est de lire les élucubrations pseudo-littéraires d’un mondain superficiel, on ne se permet pas de supposer quoi que ce soit sur qui que ce soit. La littérature pour bourgeoise ennuyée : aux chiottes ! Et désolé aux lectrices du Figaro Madame et à leurs fils spirituels. Tu devrais toi aussi t’inspirer des recommandations que j’ai donnés pour commencer à tâter de la bonne littérature, je ne voudrais pas causer un anévrisme chez mon petit anon-lecteur-de-Schmitt en lui proposant des livres plus audacieux.

[Anonymous No.16270465]

If hes so fucking smart he can save himself.
Seriously though: Start with the Greeks, otherwise Old Man and The Sea and Storm of Steel are pretty fitting and make sure to direct him into lifting ASAP and dont feed him any oriental shit ESPECIALLY mishima he will turn into a faggot.

[Anonymous No.16270472]

It's always sad to see your former high school classmates become single mothers

[Anonymous No.16270478]

>>16270353
Basé et rougepillé

[Anonymous No.16270548]

>>16270353
Je réaffirme mon propos; tu n'as jamais lu Schmitt

[Anonymous No.16270583]

>>16266200
If you think he can handle it, The Three Musketeers. D'Artagnan and Co. are a group of masculine men who do cool shit and have awesome adventures. It'll teach him how to be a gentleman, but also how to be discerning with women.

[Anonymous No.16270591]

>>16270353
Je vais même m'expliquer tout de suite. Si tu as lu Schmitt, tu l'a lu avec les yeux pleins de merdes propres aux arriérés du vieux-continent. C'est-à-dire que tu l'a lu comme si tu te cherchais une bible; c'est de la littérature, les mots n'ont pas plus d'ampleur qu'ils en ont sur une feuille. Si Schmitt est de la merde, Maupassant et Rimbaud sont aussi de la merde, seulement avec une saveur différente. La littérature est artistique et sans plus. Et si quelqu'un cherche des ouvrages faciles pour s'initier au français, alors oui, je vais leur recommander Schmitt, parce qu'il est un auteur talentueux et facile d'accès pour les étrangers. Mais vas-y, continue à te prendre pour le trou de cul du monde et à chier sur Schmitt, mais souviens toi qu'il aura beaucoup plus contribué à notre langue et à notre littérature que tu ne le fera jamais.

[Anonymous No.16270696]

>>16266200
Jack London's Klondike novels and stories
Ken Dryden's The Game (non-fiction)
Sometimes a Great Notion by Kesey

[Anonymous No.16270737]

>>16270591
C’est l’allusion au Figaro madame qui te met dans cet état ? Je sais que les lecteurs d’Elle se plongent aussi l’été dans ce genre de bouquin, excuse moi de n’avoir pas su deviner ton magazine de cœur. En tout cas ton message me fait bien rire : “Maupassant et Rimbaud sont aussi de la merde”, merveilleux alexandrin à l’hémistiche brillante... Si c’est une parodie, c’est très réussi. Bien qu’on sente peut-être un peu trop l’influence de cette page de Huysmans, et qu’il est dommage que l’on se moque toujours de ceux dont on se moquait déjà il y a plus d’un siècle. Si ce n’est pas une parodie, alors j’ai le malheur de t’annoncer que ton absence de goût et ta neutralité médiocre sont probablement incurables et issues d’une atrophie du lobe frontal. Au demeurant, laisse moi te donner au conseil : afin de contribuer plus positivement à notre langue et à notre littérature que le premier Schmitt venu j’ai fait le choix de ne pas polluer les librairies de mes états d’âmes.
Et tu te trompes en disant que je ne l’ai pas lu, mais crois ce qui t’arrange.

[Anonymous No.16270832]

pic FUCKING related

[Anonymous No.16270912]

>>16270737
Dieu que tu es chiant, laisses les gens lirent ce qu'ils veulent. Et non, je ne sais pas c'est quoi "Figaro madame".

[Anonymous No.16271000]

>>16270737
De plus, tu prouves mon point: tu as lu Schmitt en essayant d'y voir quelque chose de plus grand que ce que c'est et donc tu ne l'a pas lu. C'est un livre, comme tous les autres, aussi mauvais que tous les autres et aussi bons que tous les autres. Le fait que tu veuilles prendre position sur tout et rien est le signe que tu n'est pas assez mûr pour la littérature, comme tout art, elle est purement subjective. Si tu veux vivre dans ton petit monde imaginaire où il faut se polariser sur le dernier livre, la dernière chanson et la dernière merde de pigeon sur le trottoir, fais toi plaisir, si tu veux t'inventer des adversaires amateurs d'une revue ou d'une autre, encore une fois, fais toi plaisir. L'art n'existe que pour l'art, ta passion mal placée est la marque d'une adolescence mal vécue.

[Anonymous No.16271081]

The Paul Street Boys

[Anonymous No.16271297]

>>16271000
A te lire on croirait que tu n’as jamais été touché par quoi que ce soit et que la littérature est un bien de consommation comme les autres. Que fous-tu sur /lit/ ? Modernité mal vécue, certainement, mais la médiocrité ne saurait engendrer que la médiocrité et je la refuse. D’ailleurs ton nihilisme axiologique est une impasse puisque dans son aboutissement il te faudrait reconnaître que ton discours vaut le mien et que nul ne peut rien proposer. Mais je suspecte qu’il s’agit plus d’une réaction puérile qu’un véritable système de pensée. Ou bien de manière plus vernaculaire :
Cope harder

[Anonymous No.16271552]

I hope to god OP is reading this - you should most definetily remove your undesirable intentions from this boy - as intelligent as he is he is also by the same attentiveness extra malleable; he is listening to you. As he is already in a clearly isolated situation you do well not to teach him anything.. Do not try to teach him anything. If you can´t open-heartedly communicate with this boy, just stay silent.

Hope your listening or youll end up isolating him even worse.

[Anonymous No.16271565]

>>16268703
it's pure facks

[Anonymous No.16271584]

>>16268738
you poor thing, you've been here too long haven't you

[Anonymous No.16271590]

>>16268730
i don't think you know how language is supposed to be used

[Anonymous No.16271591]

>>16266484
>>16266749
>>16267120
>>16267687
>>16266210
>>16268019
>>16271552
Get the message

[Anonymous No.16271616]

>>16271591
if you're implying OP is 14 years old, none of the advice becomes irrelevant or bad

[Anonymous No.16271671]

le EPIC traditionalist indoctrination

[Anonymous No.16271673]

>>16269918
Even the sheepiest little lamb can learn from this book. For example: what would happen if this was required reading in schools across the world? My guess is a lot less fleecing.

[Anonymous No.16271683]

>>16271671
Kenosha shooter isn’t a mental incel. He’s a HERO and killed a white nigger, don’t be a sad cuck about that

[Anonymous No.16271690]

>>16271683
Boots aren't a nutritious meal

[Anonymous No.16271724]

>>16271671
if american "whites" look like this then it's no surprise americans are so obsessed with blacks
now kys americhud

[Anonymous No.16271743]

>>16266919
>>16267148
>>16268619
He's too young for stuff like this. It's easy to put a kid off of reading by giving him things that are too difficult.

I would say, make sure he's read the classics for kids -
Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn
Lord of the Flies
Kurt Vonnegut - Slaughterhouse 5 and Cat's Cradle
To Kill a Mockingbird is alright but its advising against racism and kinda dragged on for me when I was 14.
The Hobbit? Personally wasn't a fan but a lot of teenagers like it.

[Anonymous No.16271807]

>>16266484
>Reading about strong male role models won't fill the hole left by his own father, it might just make it worse, because you will be pushing him deeper into missing his father instead of making the boy a well-balanced and intellectual person.

Wrong. Your bond with your father is your incarnated bond with ethic and culture itself. Its a male relationship that transcends brotherhood/friendship because as a child/teenager the father is "looked up to" as a source of higher wisdom. That is why intellect is masculine (and also why women suck at writing).

[Anonymous No.16271818]

>>16266398
is this true? if there is source for that i will throw away my proust books

[Anonymous No.16271832]

>>16271818
Same with Niezsche, just that in that case it was a medical advisory and Wagner, not the parents.

[Anonymous No.16271854]

Musashi by Eiji Yoshikawa

[Anonymous No.16271873]

>>16266226
>>16266526
most young guys on lit gained a better understanding of the world because of JP no matter how much they wanna deny it

[Anonymous No.16272222]

>>16266200
Add:
Motherfucking Robinson Crusoe
20000 leagues
Tom sawyer
old Men and the sea
Coelho's light warrior's manual
Maria (15 1/2) because a man needs romance, the three musketeers also counts as romance (fuuuuck)
War of the worlds

[Anonymous No.16272378]

>>16272222
I forgot...reader's digest magazines were good

[Anonymous No.16272500]

>>16271743
>but it's advising against racism
I think looking out for all the members of your community is pretty masculine.

[Anonymous No.16272640]

>>16271818
Based.

[Anonymous No.16272654]

>>16271743
>But it's advising against racism
Yes, that's something young men need to read so that they don't end up like you.

[Anonymous No.16272671]

>>16266200
Anything by Tolkien
White fang , The call of the wild , Odyssey

[Anonymous No.16273198]

>>16266200
give him science fiction books

[Anonymous No.16273224]

>>16269798
Thoreau is about the worst role model a child can have

[Anonymous No.16273311]

>>16271590
Sure do, I just realize that in normal communication being a pedantic ass is being an ass.

[Anonymous No.16273315]

Roadside Picnic and then take him to a park to search for treasure (that you have planted beforehand). Don't watch the movie though, they turn the main character into a pretentious little bitch

[Anonymous No.16273766]

>>16272654
What, so they don't end up a woman?

[Anonymous No.16274293]

>>16266210
What a fucking sperg lord you are

[Anonymous No.16274325]

>>16266200
bro just any fucking shounen manga, he literally cant get tolstoy or shakespeare or dante yet, he has to hit puberty. like bro hes 14 chill, he might be fucking mozart but its still a kid, wisdom comes with experience and he just doesnt have enough of it.
naruto
fma
vagabond
beserk (actually probably scratch the last too kinda graphic for a kid esp beserk)
hajime no ippo is rly good too
also pic related op

[Anonymous No.16274352]

>>16266200
Unironically Berserk manga

[Anonymous No.16274365]

>>16266200
Hero of our time might be good.

[Anonymous No.16274368]

>>16266315
ass shit ass fucking garbage ass
>>16266507
fuck you retard you were raped
>>16266513
this is pretty good actually
>>16266527
coomer
>>16266534
tell him to learn german first if hes such a fucking wunderkind
>>16266545
heres a rec: suicide
>>16266646
this but not sound of waves have him read based sun and steel
>>16266716
too much for the boy rn, might turn gay too, he cant understand the nuance of manly love
>>16266919
coomer shit
>>16267148
hyper based this exactly too based for this world
>>16267174
14 yo attention span says no nigger
>>16267948
you read at a high schoolers level i actually cant believe you post here
>>16269351
came here to rec this, might as well redpill him early, it only hurts more the more time you take
>>16270084
hes 14 tell him to read the fucking bible first
>>16270178
hyper pseud spotted holy fuck kys
>>16271854
havent read this but i know you only know about it from vagabond so im guessing its too violent/sexual, which im not going to be puritan, but he obviously cant understand such alien topic manner, w8 till he gets a boner
and before you ask, your welcome you all wanted my opinion

[Anonymous No.16274437]

>>16271873
pretty much

[Anonymous No.16274459]

>>16274352
probably too much rape for a kid eh?

[Anonymous No.16274467]

>>16266210
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.16274605]

>>16274459
14 year olds can definitely handle mature themes. I had a certain respect for our technology teacher when I was young, because he treated us as mentally adult.
I think Berserk has rare beauty because it goes where few will, the controversial themes are necessary. Life isn't roses, but the ups and downs contrast eachother for some sort of meaningful tint to it all. Guts is a traumatized orphan. But he keeps swimming, he cries, he protects those he cares about, a strong character
However not dense to read at all due to the format but certainly visually inspiring

[Anonymous No.16274829]

>>16271671
post body

[Anonymous No.16274867]

>>16266200
The Flashman series
The Aubrey-Maturin series (what the movie Master and Commander was adapted from)
The Horatio Hornblower series
These books will put hair on his chest as much as they put thoughts in his brain and a love for brotherhood and adventure in his heart.

[Anonymous No.16274884]

>>16271743
Lolita was somewhat a joke.Obviously, no teenager should read Lolita, there are books that should only be read by people who have had certain experiences. If OP's
protégé wants to know abysses of humanity, Lolita might be a good choice. However, if he is just looking for role models I would rather read books like Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn. Of course, Homer's Odysee is a good choice, too. I think even Dumas' Count of Montechristo might be a good choice.

[Anonymous No.16274996]

>>16274605
i mean i agree that its very good, and the gore and rape parts are not gratuitous by any means, but i think its difficult for a 14 yo to understand that on the level that the mangaka was expecting.
>>16274884
i read lolita before i was even allowed to post here just out of the meme, i connected with it a lot personally actually, i feel like isolated teens can understand it, read it after crime and punishment so i was really going through the edgy gamut

[Anonymous No.16275030]

>>16274867
Top tier choices.

I also recommend:
The Count of Monte Cristo
The Three Musketeers
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
Kim
A Princess of Mars
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Treasure Island
The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings
The Call of the Wild
Shogun

[Anonymous No.16275054]

if hes lonely hang out with him and listen
dont recommend books you havent read
be honest with him, give your heart to him
he will love you forever i promise you

[Anonymous No.16275134]

>>16266562
This thing right here

[Anonymous No.16275188]

>>16271818
>18 May 1888
>Thursday evening.
>My dear little grandfather,
>I appeal to your kindness for the sum of 13 francs that I wished to ask Mr. Nathan for, but which >Mama prefers I request from you. Here is why. I so needed to see if a woman could stop my awful >masturbation habit that Papa gave me 10 francs to go to a brothel. But first, in my agitation, I broke a >chamber pot: 3 francs; then, still agitated, I was unable to screw. So here I am, back to square one, >waiting more and more as hours pass for 10 francs to relieve myself, plus 3 francs for the pot. But I >dare not ask Papa for more money so soon and so I hoped you could come to my aid in a >circumstance which, as you know, is not merely exceptional but also unique. It cannot happen twice >in one lifetime that a person is too flustered to screw.
>I kiss you a thousand times and dare to thank you in advance.
>I will be home tomorrow morning at 11am. If you are moved by my situation and can answer my >prayers, I will hopefully find you with the amount. Regardless, thank you for your decision which I >know will come from a place of friendship.
>Marcel.
He was actually 16 when the letter was written.

[Anonymous No.16275189]

>>16266200
I’m sure it’s already been mentioned in this thread, but encourage him to have his own adventures. Go fishing/hiking/camping. Go on a mini road trip with him. Teach him a useful skill like carpentry or how to fix up cars. He’ll value these more than any book. As far as books for a 14 year old boy: The Old Man and the Sea, The Hobbit, The Road, and The Odyssey might be right up his ally. Since he likes adventures, he may also enjoy nonfiction stuff like Shackleton’s Antarctic expedition.

[Anonymous No.16275193]

>>16266200
Gifted teenagers love Dune. Paul's a wierd combo of ridiculously OP protag seeking revenge and doomed, miserable martyr trying with little success to minimize a disaster. There are plenty of other good male role models as well.

[Anonymous No.16275889]

>>16271584
Yes, and it has ruined me.

[Anonymous No.16276057]

>>16271690
Its not bootlicking if its my boot

[Anonymous No.16276081]

>>16275188
I wish whores were this cheap today..

[Anonymous No.16276091]

>>16274368
I read Count of Monte Christo at age 15, I think a 14-year old can handle it.

[Anonymous No.16276102]

>>16276081
Whores are probably one of the things where it's worth paying for a good one.

[Anonymous No.16276358]

>>16274368
>one sentenced mass replies
hyper pseud spotted holy fuck kys

[Anonymous No.16276778]

>>16274368
>coomer shit
lolwtf?
what are you even talking about?
that's just dumb

[Anonymous No.16276786]

>>16276081
the franc was devalued or whatever by 10, right, so this was 10x more expensive than it seems.
don't think the Prousts were poor, either

[Anonymous No.16276899]

>>16266200
Don’t be a dumb fuck and make a nerd out of him
Give him some light CS Lewis, Tolkien. Goethe comes around at like 16/17 Anything more may put a strain on him if you le start with the gayreek

But encourage him for sports and more social activities.
Encourage a little more dissent, rebellions, warrior spirit in him

[Anonymous No.16276907]

>>16271873
Agreed, this board truly is populated by 105 IQ faggots who've read, at max, 40 books in their entire lives

[Anonymous No.16277074]

>>16266200
What kind of genius do you want to mold him into?

[Anonymous No.16277107]

>>16276899
>Encourage a little more dissent, rebellions, warrior spirit in him
This is a terrible idea. If you encourage that sort of thing in him he would most likely become violent and aggressive as he gets older, as opposed to being a balanced person. Encouraging him to train his body with sports, and to stand up for himself when pressure, are both important, but encouraging "rebellion" and "dissent" will just turn him into a cunt.

[Anonymous No.16277143]

>>16276899
Sports is a waste of time

[Anonymous No.16277210]

>>16277143
Fitness is useful, so is a group of friends so he can learn how social interactions work. Playing together is probably the easiest way to make friends. I only played tennis and the club boys were all faggots though, I'd still say it was useful.

[Anonymous No.16277254]

>>16277143
only redditors truly believe this

[Anonymous No.16277307]

>>16277107
I understand what you mean.
> If you encourage that sort of thing in him he would most likely become violent and aggressive as he gets older
This would only happen if he is allowed too much of a free hand

> rebellion" and "dissent" will just turn him into a cunt.
I mean he should sneak out once or twice to party/concert but be responsible doing it not do drugs and be a degenerate

He needs to understand all of these emotions good or bad if he’s to grow into a wise man
Oh op tell him to stay away from drugs/alcohol and not to give into peer pressure

[Anonymous No.16278019]

>>16276358
>>16276778
i want everyone to realize that these two are complete fucking dolts and they fell for the most obvious bait

[Anonymous No.16278057]

>>16277307
>sneak out once or twice to party/concert but be responsible doing it not do drugs and be a degenerate
If he sneaks out to attend a party or concert then he is absolutely also going to take drugs, these two things go hand in hand.

[Anonymous No.16278178]

>>16277307
>Oh op tell him to stay away from drugs/alcohol and not to give into peer pressure
tell him not to get caught and get it all out of his system in hs so he can focus in college
hes going to do it eventually or hell just remain this innocuous pos

[Anonymous No.16278202]

>>16266210
fpbp

[Anonymous No.16278224]

>>16266200
Give that faggot a copy of The Conspiracy Against the Human Race so he can be one with the singularity.

[Anonymous No.16278301]

>>16266200
Unironically give him Flashman. Covers are a bit of a joke, but there was seriously impressive historic research put into these books. They tell about Flashman’s adventures in the British Empire across the 19th century. I am sure they would be very fun to read for a young man. Flashman himself may not be your first idea of a role model has he often acts incredibly immoral, however he is definitely very masculine, and explains the world as it is without some bullshit maoralistic perception distorting it. As well it’s told as like a memoir of Flashman retelling his adventures in his retirement during the early 20th century, and remarks on where his failures were and when he was led astray.

I think it’s an excellent series to lead a boy into manhood.

[Anonymous No.16278363]

>>16273224
Why? Because he doesn't resemble the ideals of modern society? What a poor standard to judge a role model, considering that the average modern man is depressed and wagecucking for life

[Anonymous No.16278733]

>>16278363
Yes, exactly

[Anonymous No.16279762]

>>16266200
John Carter of Mars, Conan the Barbarian, pulp stuff like that from the lat 19th/early 20th century.

[Anonymous No.16279861]

>>16274867
>>16278301
>>16279762
These and Doc Savage are great additions too. If he like one from this set, and if so, give him more.

Then provide him with some history stuff that's cool and in a similar vein, like stuff on Conrtez and the Conquistadors, stuff from famous mercenaries and soldiers of fortune, so on and so forth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mercenaries

I'd recommend Frederick Russel Burnham, Josiah Harlan (inspiration for The Man Who Would Be King), Mad Mike Hoare and William Walker as cool historical figures.

[Anonymous No.16280040]

Ragged Dick, and the best Horatio Alger stories would be great, I think.

[Anonymous No.16280513]

Augustus
1984
Old Man and the Sea
Islands in the Stream (maybe the loss of a son will strike a chord with him

[Anonymous No.16280635]

>>16266210
lol look how many triggered faggots here were relating themselves to OP's story when you just shattered their world.

Sorry guys, you just aren't smart. You're not the chosen one.

[Anonymous No.16281100]

>>16280635
You're missing the point, buddy; people are trying to help a smart kid - that doesn't mean we have to be smart, just have some experience, maybe even somme wisdom.

[Anonymous No.16281286]

>>16266200
Apologies in advance for any repeats.
Greek/Norse/Egyptian mythology. The Odyssey, and also the Percy Jackson books are an entertaining series for his age,
All Quiet On The Western Front (unless you think the war imagery would be too brutal),
The Grapes Of Wrath,
The Magician's Apprentice (fairly basic but I enjoyed it quite a bit when I was just about his age),
The Lord Of The Rings, Silmarillion, The Hobbit,
The Canterbury Classics selection of Science Fiction and Fantasy (my great uncle got this for me when I was 13 or 14)
In The Kingdom of Ice by Hampton Sides (non-fiction)
The Outsiders,
Sherlock Holmes (or anything else by Arthur Conan Doyle),
Even though they aren't great in retrospect the Harry Potter series is often a good read for people his age (the problem comes when adults obsess over it, the books themselves aren't awful).
Good luck!

[Anonymous No.16281376]

>>16273311
with the qualifier of being pedantic, you mean

[Anonymous No.16281387]

>>16274368
the universe wants you to know that you're never going to be happy

but you already know that

[Anonymous No.16281397]

>>16275889
'ave a hug luv

[nelsy No.16281412]

>>16266200
why?
do they like math so much ?

i hate it

HEAR THAT CASEY!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeMvMNpvB5M&ab_channel=thebandheart

[Anonymous No.16281447]

>>16266640
fuck off faggot, dont try to falseflag

[Anonymous No.16281509]

>>16266200
Masculine role model? Try Odysseus or Aeneas. Someone with backbone and self-assurance. I'm partly kidding but if he'll read anything you put in front of him, don't put modern, agonizing, angsty bullshit in his way. Give him stuff that makes him believe in his own powers as a human being and individual.
And, this should be obvious and you're dumb for not doing this, but ask him about what he's interested in and tailor it to that. Don't just imperiously force what you think he should read on him.

[Anonymous No.16282146]

>>16266200
Teach that kid chess, play it with him
Tell him to only read white, straight males

[Anonymous No.16282168]

>>16282146
Chess is a waste of brainpower for anyone actually gifted.

You spend your years attuning neural pathways for what is ultimately, inapplicable in the real world.

>inb4 it makes you logical!!
No, it teaches you learn arbitrary setups on the board and recall the solution for each.

Learning to play the piano and improv, is far better since that actually teaches you pattern recognition and expands your working memory.

[Anonymous No.16282235]

>>16282168
Do both then

[Anonymous No.16282245]

>>16282235
Your intuitive comprehension is a limited resource.

[Anonymous No.16283138]

>>16278301
Endorsed by PG Wodehouse?! Is that for real?
Never heard of these, will def check immediately.

[Anonymous No.16283264]

>>16266200
Fantômas by Marcel Allain and Pierre Souvestre
Arsène Lupin by Maurice Leblanc

Also, that prof sounds like a dumbass, The Sorrows of Young Werther were not only a torture to read, but it supposedly inspired many young people of the time to commit suicide.

[Anonymous No.16283339]

>>16266200
Well, fren. I don't know what is and isn't non-fiction, but Ivanhoe seems nice. I also have this book called black arrow, but that one is cruder. Oh, I have Hannibal's autobiography too, though it ends badly, Alexander too, though it can get a bit sexual. Nothing else I can suggest. I apologize.

[Anonymous No.16283406]

>>16266200
Work him up to the World as Will and Representation

[Anonymous No.16283927]

>>16266200

[Anonymous No.16284440]

>>16274996
>i read lolita before i was even allowed to post here just out of the meme, i connected with it a lot personally actually, i feel like isolated teens can understand it, read it after crime and punishment so i was really going through the edgy gamut
Which aspects of Lolita did you connect with? I only really felt this "Being in search of something that has been irrevocably lost in the past" but otherwise I thought that H.H. was a massive asshole. Even Dolores became an obnoxious character and towards the end only a shadow of her former self. Lolita is a very well written psychogram tho

[Anonymous No.16284496]

>>16266210

[Anonymous No.16285304]

>help save a very smart kid
your issue is pride

[Anonymous No.16285561]

>>16266200
Get him into a team sport. Preferably soccer since the competition (in USA) and physiological constraints are lower than basketball. I hated it as a kid but I'm glad my father forced me to do it throughout my child hood. I would have been a complete loser without it. It has to be a team sport. If he's too nerdy get him into choir or orchestra and speech and debate. 14 is close to too late for him to develop lasting male friends.

[Anonymous No.16285819]

>>16285304
How so?

[Anonymous No.16285834]

>>16266200
You are a gay pedophile OP.

[Anonymous No.16287188]

>>16285834
WTF? neck yourself

[Anonymous No.16287209]

>>16283264
>Fantômas by Marcel Allain and Pierre Souvestre
>Arsène Lupin by Maurice Leblanc
googled and this shit looks dope af. surprised hollywood hasn't stolen this yet

[Anonymous No.16287717]

>>16266200
tom sawyer

[Anonymous No.16287728]

>>16267948
best answer

[Anonymous No.16287767]

>>16266323
>Alexander von Humboldt. One good and easy book about him is "The Invention of Nature", by Andrea Wulf.

good book not at all like what >>16266526 said, its an easy interesting read

[Anonymous No.16287804]

>>16266200
Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand
Meditations - Marcus Aurelius

Atlas Shrugged is an immaculate conveyance of the value of striving with reason for greatness by virtue of value in one’s mind and expressing it through action, while simultaneously being aware of the pitfalls of falling into the societal trap of destroying one’s self and negating his self-esteem for the benefit of bitter vultures. The book may save him a lot of pain and let him know that there are people out there who understand the importance of individual mastery and seeking endless growth of personal value. It can be a very lonely life being gifted and passionate.

[Anonymous No.16288177]

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