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[Anonymous No.16228551]

Refute him.

[Anonymous No.16228566]

history, nature and common sense refuted him and his successors

[Anonymous No.16228593]

[Anonymous No.16228603]

Very simple I live in a social democratic country and its superior in every way
As a neet I get everything I need meanwhile under his policies I would have to wagekek in some peasant commune

[Anonymous No.16228641]

>>16228603
Based

[Anonymous No.16228672]

>>16228603
Based NEETposter

[Anonymous No.16228675]

>>16228551
Stalinism is the logical conclusion of marxism-leninism

[Anonymous No.16228687]

https://youtu.be/fgm14D1jHUw
OHNONONONO
We got too cocky Brosheviks!

[Anonymous No.16228688]

>>16228603
You Retard. Worker's movements from Marxist parties is how those countries got Social Democracy in the first place. Plus, they took away a lot of the Socialist policies in the 80's and 90's and opened the countries up to multinational corporations, free trade, immigration, neoliberalism and capitalism.
Today there are no Marxist parties or Workers movements to get rid of those and bring Socialist policies back.
So eat shit.

[Anonymous No.16228719]

>>16228688
The Nordic model is kino thought. Just have your government buy large stakes in major companies, use the revenue to implement social programs like healthcare, re-training programs for the worker's whose jobs became obsolete due to automation/outsourcing, keeping the streets clean and have high union membership

[Anonymous No.16228728]

>>16228687
This is more of a jab at Gorbachev, not Lenin. Either way, this is the one of the most humiliating things I've seen

[Anonymous No.16228757]

>>16228551
he's bald

[Anonymous No.16228768]

>>16228551
Volkogonov claimed that "there can scarcely have been another man in history who managed so profoundly to change so large a society on such a scale". Lenin's administration laid the framework for the system of government that ruled Russia for seven decades and provided the model for later Communist-led states that came to cover a third of the inhabited world in the mid-20th century. Thus, Lenin's influence was global. A controversial figure, Lenin remains both reviled and revered, a figure who has been both idolised and demonised. Even during his lifetime, Lenin "was loved and hated, admired and scorned" by the Russian people. This has extended into academic studies of Lenin and Leninism, which have often been polarised along political lines.

The historian Albert Resis suggested that if the October Revolution is considered the most significant event of the 20th century, then Lenin "must for good or ill be considered the century's most significant political leader". White described Lenin as "one of the undeniably outstanding figures of modern history", while Service noted that the Russian leader was widely understood to be one of the 20th century's "principal actors". Read considered him "one of the most widespread, universally recognizable icons of the twentieth century", while Ryan called him "one of the most significant and influential figures of modern history". Time magazine named Lenin one of the 100 most important people of the 20th century, and one of their top 25 political icons of all time.

In the Western world, biographers began writing about Lenin soon after his death; some—like Christopher Hill—were sympathetic to him, and others—like Richard Pipes and Robert Gellately—expressly hostile. Some later biographers, such as Read and Lars Lih, sought to avoid making either hostile or positive comments about him, thereby evading politicised stereotypes. Among sympathisers, he was portrayed as having made a genuine adjustment of Marxist theory that enabled it to suit Russia's particular socio-economic conditions. The Soviet view characterised him as a man who recognised the historically inevitable and accordingly helped to make the inevitable happen. Conversely, the majority of Western historians have perceived him as a person who manipulated events in order to attain and then retain political power, moreover considering his ideas as attempts to ideologically justify his pragmatic policies. More recently, revisionists in both Russia and the West have highlighted the impact that pre-existing ideas and popular pressures exerted on Lenin and his policies.

[Anonymous No.16228886]

Human nature

[Anonymous No.16228968]

>>16228603
People's Republic of Based approved.

[Anonymous No.16229232]

>>16228551
> Muh errybody brothas
> Muh errybody same merit
> Muh let's pay the street cleaners the same as scientists
> Muh let's indoctrinate children to spy on their parents
It's secular Christianity. It also managed to kill tens of millions of people, destroy the arts, social and family cohesion as well as the economies of innumerable countries, and bring the species to the edge of nuclear annihilation. You could argue the Nazis were a bit worse, but that's like arguing whether aids or cancer is preferable, it has the same end result. Case closed.

[Anonymous No.16229293]

>>16228757
/thread

[Anonymous No.16229329]

>>16228551
Communism is pretty cringe. You literally can't refute this

[Anonymous No.16229353]

[Anonymous No.16229496]

>>16228719
the nordic model is like a remora attaching itself to a shark
without all the atrocities big capitalist forces commit daily it wouldn't exist
and it's not like they don't do the same, oil money, selling weapons to saudis etc. etc.
ted bundy was nice to his girlfriend's daughter, it doesn't mean he wasn't a serial killer

[Anonymous No.16229647]

>>16229496
exactly if it weren't for the us keeping the world brutally in check or the EU partners ripping off the third world and rebuilding themselves with immigrant work force the nordic model wouldn't exist.

[Anonymous No.16229746]

>>16229496
Name 10 atrocities that capitalism commits daily that didn't happen under communist rule

[Anonymous No.16229775]

>>16229746
>we're as bad as the commies!
lol

[Anonymous No.16229867]

>>16229775
Is capitalism worse or not? So far I haven't seen any of these "daily atrocities"

[Anonymous No.16229931]

>"Lenin? No, call me comrade. We're all comrades here!"
>2 mins later
>"Give me your crops or you're fucking dead"
Huh

[Anonymous No.16229966]

>>16228675