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How do you guys talk about the stuff you read irl?

>> No.16219318

>>16219305
I do it confidently, with strength but a care and sympathising for what people are there, and for people in general.

If you study rhetoric and thought, it will be very easy to speak ornately but most importantly overtly, but speaking to other people as a friend will only come naturally from a friendship with them.

>> No.16219333

The first thing I do is asses if the person I am thinking about talking to would even care.

>> No.16219348

>>16219305
People at bars have no opinions?

>> No.16219361

>>16219305
I can barely talk about movies irl and normies are supposed to watch those.

>> No.16219386

>>16219318
Do you study rhetoric at college or autodidactally?

>> No.16219399

>>16219305
Barely anyone reads besides college students and old ladies with their Kindle erotica.

>> No.16219435

>>16219386
Autodidactally, this has given me the talent. If you would like a few people or things to study here are a few:

-Plato, specifically Gorgias is a good one for this(the nature of truth in rhetoric in contrast to the Sophist).
-Mathews
-Demosthenes
-Hitler
-Mosley(irrespective of their politics)
-Jonathan Bowden(see "Hope for Future Vangaurdism" and "The Real Meaning of Punch and Judy")
-Punch and Judy(which will make sense once watching this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKOegBbx_Vk , and the Bowden interpretation of it, which explains it as a completely emotional relation to the audience, and as typically un-intellectual rhetoric as possible but still very important for understanding)

This is quite a conglomeration, and will be entirely useless if you do not have the belief and education in your own moral self prior.

>> No.16219464

>>16219435
Nah I already study actual rhetoric, the classical trivium.

>> No.16219481

A fair bit yes. In fact, I was talking the other day to my mother, about a book by Samuel Butler called Erewhon. And a few days prior, about Aristotle's Politics with a friend.

>> No.16219531

I don’t. But then I don’t try to bullycide people in bars either. Seems kind of cruel.

>> No.16219533

I don't talk irl.

>> No.16219543

>>16219333
Trips of common sense confirm.

>> No.16219557

>>16219464
Wasn't it the great Longinus that described that as lost and departed from people in its own abstraction? Which equates to a very unuseful rhetoric?

Read Dionysius Longinus.

>> No.16219578

>>16219333
This, most people won't care to even gain a preliminary understanding of the foundation for my opinions.

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16219665

>>16219305
constantly try to relate everything being talked about to the book i'm currently reading, find retarded parallels, and mention the book at least three times that night.

help me.

>> No.16219699

>>16219305
I talk to my dad, my brother or my best friend.

>> No.16219831

>>16219305
Yes. Ever since childhood people have said I have an odd charisma so, and even though I was a bit of a pseud, people wanted me to "enlighten them" or "have a deep discussion" in highschool. It was weird.

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16220490

Lol

>> No.16220499

>>16220490
looks like a fish wearing glasses lol

>> No.16220529

I have a single friend who I know read regularly and that I discuss lit with.

>> No.16220530

Good thing I have a modicum of charisma and looks so I can drone as much as I want and people actually enjoy the insanity.

>> No.16221655

>>16219305
Just talk about it if it's relevant. I'm a pretty good conversationalist.