/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.16213153]

>Be me English Major 21 will soon be 22
>Last year of college
>kv and lonely
>no friends since high school other than some discord peeps sometimes talk to and watch anime with
>no idea what I am doing after I graduate which makes me scared
>just like reading books and watching anime
>live with mom (I have no debt so that is good)
>have 0 work experience and no internships
What do? Help, I'm scared.

[Anonymous No.16213162]

are you an american?

[Anonymous No.16213168]

Start looking for internships immediately. Ask the school to help you.

[Anonymous No.16213172]

>>16213153
sounds comfy

[Anonymous No.16213180]

>>16213162
Yes
>>16213168
Don't internships ask for resumes?

[Anonymous No.16213196]

>>16213180
Your University writing department can help with that as well. They'll try to get you a job because it makes them look better.

[Anonymous No.16213239]

>>16213196
ok

[Anonymous No.16213241]

>>16213196
Kek

[Anonymous No.16213248]

>>16213180
100x internships. look for one starting right now. literally anything you can find. otherwise you're royally fucked upon graduation

[Anonymous No.16213330]

>>16213241
What's so funny, faggot?

[Anonymous No.16213354]

>>16213153
you got tricked that 4 years of a college degree, now degraded to the lowest common denominator, was better than being 4 years into a career or starting your own business.

[Anonymous No.16213377]

>>16213153
oh, you baby. Darling. I'm turning 30 this year and a NEET. I want to die.

[Anonymous No.16213423]

>>16213153
Don’t worry OP. Your department can hook you up with a job writing professionally. It’s only a dislike of easy money and interesting study that keeps people out of the program. Like your advisor told you all companies are just desperate for people who know how to write and everybody knows that you can’t really write a coherent sentence without four years of undergraduate study.

And don’t worry about the other thing. Everyone also knows it’s not really practicable that an unattached man living right on top of a bunch of easy women in a boozy atmosphere should get laid. It’ll be much easier once college is over.

[Anonymous No.16213459]

>>16213153
>have 0 work experience and no internships
Well duh, what "internships" are you expecting to get as an English major lmao?

[Anonymous No.16213506]

>>16213459
idk

[Anonymous No.16213509]

>>16213354
>or starting your own business
This.

[Anonymous No.16213515]

>>16213377
how is it? i'm 18 and the way things seem i will probbaly still be one at 30

[Anonymous No.16213539]

>>16213377
Turning 29 next month and in the same position, only have some other issues which may fuck up my life soon.

OP, in your early twenties you shouldn't worry too much. If you have low self-esteem, like I did at that age (still do), then you will simply whore yourself out as much as possible in the hope that someone will give you a job no matter what it is. That's fine, but ultimately try not to worry about money and social status etc. You could realistically spend the next eight years (that's a long time) humping your pillow on your bedroom floor, and then sign up for teacher training or something and still be considered a young guy or whatever.

If your mother is letting you live with her, that is great and you should appreciate it. As for jobs and everything else, try to become independent and then see what suits you in terms of working with others, or acquiring things, or whatever. You may find out you are well-suited to a high-pressure office job, or you may find that you much prefer working in a low-pace, low-responsibility, low-hours job and are willing to take the financial sacrifices that come with that. Ultimately, I would encourage you to go for a long walk every night without headphones or anything, and (without becoming a solipsistic schizoposter) maintain your self-esteem through eating healthily, going outside, treating other people as equals rather than as if they are superior or more deserving of life than you are, and develop yourself in whatever way seems instinctively correct for you.

Personally, I wasted my entire 20s in a job I loathed and I realise now, as a NEET, that I was just a coward and that each year I spent in that job I became more of a cowardly, submissive, depressed loser with no willpower or strength to change my situation. If I could go back to who I used to be, I would say don't worry too much about money, because it isn't worth sacrificing your integrity (selling your soul) because your worry about money (and the ability to impress a mate, buy a house, etc). Another important thing is do not tarnish your conscience if you can avoid it. I have done this and it has ruined me psychologically.

[Anonymous No.16213573]

>English major
KEK. You fucked yourself from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.16213581]

>English major
KEK. You fucked yourself from the beginning. Learn to code dipshit.

[Anonymous No.16213589]

>>16213581
>Learn to code
10 years late to that one there bud

[Anonymous No.16213590]

>>16213581
this. I majored in English and have never regretted anything more in my entire life. switch majors ASAP.

[Anonymous No.16213598]

>>16213581

[Anonymous No.16213601]

>>16213515
well, I'm in germany. I get enough money to survive on, and usually have more money than all of my friends who work (but I don't buy a lot). But internally, I hate myself, because I had so many dreams, and now I'm just shitposting on 4chan. I desperately try to do something, anything that I can be proud of, but I don't know what. Our whole lives we're told that we have to DO something, we have to make something of ourselves, and that follows you.
Personally, if I was your age, and knew what I know now, I'd focus on divorcing my self-worth from the idea of "contribution" to society. I don't have to be famous, I don't have to be "successful". And of course, the whole "it's not real life until you work, and are miserable" the whole "real life is shit" doctrine. It makes you feel like, if you're not slaving away or something, then your life hasn't started, but you're alive. You exist. What are you, if you're not alive?

I don't know. I hate myself. But I hate myself because I don't fit into the formula that I've been conditioned to believe in.

[Anonymous No.16213605]

>>16213153
I’m 21 and 2 years behind in college, with no friends and no internship

[Anonymous No.16213607]

>>16213590
I don't want to do anything else.
What are you doing now anon?

[Anonymous No.16213615]

Teach English abroad

[Anonymous No.16213635]

>>16213459
Rude

>>16213506
You can go for advertising, marketing and other communication jobs, anon. Literally all companies have such departments now a days or they hire agencies, to whom you can also apply for jobs, they love artsy types that arent just excel Economics types or cardboard cut marketing majors. Argue that you bring new perspectives to the table and could likely see something that a the previous mentioned types could. Plenty of opportunities, just be creative and open minded in your search and really narrow down what you can bring to the table and how you stand apart from others. If all your English major peers are as clueless as yourself and you apply as I have mentioned, it means you are already standing out in the application pile. Good luck anon, you are young and have plenty of time, dont sweat it.

[Anonymous No.16213643]

>>16213153
>Be A*/A student during A Levels
>end up fucking the exam and ending up with an A C C
>decide to resit the two Cs
>covid happens and exams are being based on some mock predictions
>exam day
>get two Cs
>they tell me I'm being penalised for being a resit student and that all resit students are just receiving their previous grades
>student outrage about downgrades in general and the government do a U turn and decide to allow for schools to give CAGs(grades based on teacher predictions)
>tiny sliver of hope
>get email that my uni still decided to decline me
>get informed that resit students aren't being awarded CAGs and are just getting the same grades again
This type of shit is what drives people to suicide. I'm now one year older and worse off than I was a year ago. Brilliant. My options are resit again, go to shit hole waste of money uni, fuck off and do something else, or an hero.

[Anonymous No.16213645]

>>16213607
unemployed NEET since graduation last year. I have had lots of time to read whatever I want so I suppose that is a plus. if you have a specific career in mind that an English degree will help you get then go for it; just don't pursue it without a plan. also idk if you live in the US or not but if you do then be wary of the courses you take. much of what passes for literary education in the US is just thinly veiled political indoctrination (aka critical theory).

[Anonymous No.16213653]

>>16213607
TEACH ENGLISH ABROAD

[Anonymous No.16213658]

>>16213539
Listen to this OP. Great advice

[Anonymous No.16213661]

>>16213645
>much of what passes for literary education in the US is just thinly veiled political indoctrination (aka critical theory).
didn’t realize how true this was until i took an english class. this is not a meme. not every english teacher is a brain dead critical theorist but most of them are.

[Anonymous No.16213667]

>>16213539
>go for a long walk every night
Highly based post and good advice
>>16213643
With ACC you can easily go to good European universities. For example, in the Netherlands unis generally only ask for CCC, some of the more competitive courses involve small entry tests. I was in a similar situation to you and I couldn't be happier about studying in Europe instead of accepting my insurance shitter offer in the UK.

[Anonymous No.16213689]

>>16213667
Any recs. I'll take what I can get now. This last year of no friends and constant failure has humbled me considerably. I would really appreciate it

[Anonymous No.16213706]

>>16213645
It's the same in the UK, at least in my experience. So much deconstruction, criticism of masculinity, and stuff like that. At the time I was too naive and invested to notice, but it was no coincidence that I emerged from university as a rather pompous left-wing radical. It took real-life experience to make me more sceptical about what they were preaching, and about other things.

"A degree in philosophy teaches you to loathe the money it prevents you from making"

[Anonymous No.16213710]

>>16213539
Unironically great advice, anon. Amazing post.
Since you've given this advice I believe you are also capable of bettering yourself.
I wish both of you well.

[Anonymous No.16213713]

>>16213539
>low-pace, low-responsibility, low-hours, low-money job
what do I have to look for to find such an occupation?

[Anonymous No.16213718]

OP here; any advice from someone who isn’t a loser?

[Anonymous No.16213732]

>>16213713
Run for Congress

[Anonymous No.16213740]

>>16213732
sounds like gambling

[Anonymous No.16213752]

>>16213713
>what do I have to look for to find such an occupation?

Avoid companies owned by jews or jewish bosses in general

[Anonymous No.16213773]

>>16213601
how often do you have to go to the Arbeitsamt? I heard there was a ruling that cutting benefits was now unconstitutional, is that actually being applied? Sometimes I consider neeting but it always seems that keeping the bux flowing just ends up being another job.

[Anonymous No.16213810]

>>16213615
>>16213653
these
>likes anime
>meme degree
>no direction
just go to asia or something

[Anonymous No.16213820]

>>16213689
Don't know much about the rest of Europe, but I can definitely recommend studying in the Netherlands. IIRC only needing CCC applies to all unis there, they mostly weed people out in the first year. University of Delft and Amsterdam are both very highly regarded unis worldwide, although Amsterdam is very expensive to live in, Delft is a much nicer city imo. The other universities are also well regarded, but mostly in certain subject areas, eg Leiden has a very good law course. It's a great place to be a student: great travel nationally and internationally (£40 rotterdam to london by train, ~3.5 hours), almost everyone speaks english, cozy cities, and lots of extracurricular oportunities for socialising. If you do end up wanting to apply, it's mostly done through "studielink". Hope that helps some, the British govs making a godawful mess of this grading.

[Anonymous No.16213824]

>>16213713
Depends on where you live, i.e. a city or town. Also depends on how sincerely comfortable you are with your own company, and how confident you are either that you will be content with a rather threadbare lifestyle (which others will often perceive to be evidence of laziness, selfishness, stupidity or whatever) long-term, or whether you have any kind of back-up plan that you may refer to in future if it turns out you want to start a family, earn more money, or take on more responsibility.

If you are fortunate to have a family who is willing and happy to have you stay at home for a few years (I didn't), then you won't be worrying about rent, which in turn means you can to begin with take on any kind of retail, factory or any other kind of work available to low-skilled people, which can either be found directly online or via a welfare office or employment agency. A warning in advance is that such jobs are more likely to be insecure and subject to fluctuations in the hours worked each week, so the amount of money earned may itself fluctuate which long-term may prove rather annoying and impractical. In the short-term such a lifestyle may be great, though keep in mind that you will always, no matter which path you take in life, have moments or prolonged periods where you become convinced you have failed, chosen the wrong way, missed opportunities, made stupid decisions, etc. If I could relate just how badly I have felt over the past decade, and the number of times I have found myself kneeling on the floor of some tiny slum-tier rented room paying almost half my salary to a foreign landlord who is younger than me and who treated me like shit, regretting most of my life, dreading everything, convinced I had nowhere to turn and nobody to help me, I would but the important thing I have learned is that after you have escaped such a situation it's actually quite funny how indifferent you become towards such experiences when you are in a mildly comfortable position, even if it is that of a 28-year-old NEET virgin. Much of your bad experiences will seem so obviously a waste of time in retrospect, and much of your anger, frustration, Goethe-tier suicidal ideation will seem like such a LARP, that the only real thing you will realise is that in the future you will try your best to avoid such situations, and if possible help others to avoid them also. Always listen to your instincts, even if you don't always follow them. Learn to discern between instinct and impulse, between conviction and delusion, between influence and imitation. Remain true to the good kid you used to be, who will always be walking beside you and looking up to you to see if you are doing him proud. Learn to understand yourself, your capacity for good and evil, your flaws and virtues, and also as mentioned your disposition in terms of in which environment / context you thrive, even if "thriving" just means "not committing suicide". Good luck.

[Anonymous No.16213852]

>>16213824
thank you

[Anonymous No.16213855]

>>16213153
Same except I graduated college this May. My dad has been pretty understanding so far that because of the pandemic it’s hard to get a job but I know his patience will run out eventually and then I don’t know what I’m gonna do.

I have a job interview later today that im getting anxious over. Last job interview I had my nose started spouting blood in the middle of it and it was a zoom face call.

[Anonymous No.16213858]

>>16213820
I appreciate the advice: I was on the look out for other alternatives so I'll definitely look into what you said. I hope I have a knack for dutch.

[Anonymous No.16213884]

>>16213773
Mm. I got a letter regularly to meet with my social worker at the Jobcenter, but how much they stress you about getting a job, or something depends on your social worker. I had a couple that were really sweet and basically told me that I'd be wasting my talents at a job like Kassierer, but about a year ago I took a test that classified me as "too fucked up to work". I don't know about any recent changes.

I've heard there are a lot of people that'll insist that you apply for a certain amount of jobs a month if you want to keep pulling in harz iv, but your social worker decides if you're "doing enough". So, it's luck.

I should also add, I get ~800€ a month, and my rent is 400. So, it's not like you'll get a lot of money. But you'll get enough to survive.

[Anonymous No.16213923]

>>16213377
I'm 31, about to turn 32. I have an easy white-collar job where I can work from home, but it still feels empty. It's a job where I write and edit for a living, but the topics are highly limited and I'm bored out of my mind.

>>16213515
>how is it? i'm 18 and the way things seem i will probbaly still be one at 30

It's like being depressed the way you are currently but with fewer fun and new experiences, older family members start dying, and when you get injured it takes longer to recover. Hangovers get worse, where you are settled in life in your 30s is probably where you're going to be hanging out for the rest of your life, and time seems to go faster than it used to so you know 50 is just around the corner.

[Anonymous No.16213937]

>>16213713
You know what those jobs are, but they're not what you want to hear (e.g. janitor.) Sadly, there's no easy escape without shitty sacrifices.

[Anonymous No.16213956]

>>16213923
Have you read The Pale King? It really changed my perspective of boredom, although admittedly in practice I still struggled a lot with it.

[Anonymous No.16213957]

>>16213718
this isn't me :(

[Anonymous No.16213958]

>bee me
>business major
>dual degree in English
>hate business but it pays me $10k a year in scholarship, can't afford to not be in it
>business majors think they're hot shit because of the rankings relative to other schools at the uni
>but we have the easiest curriculum by far
Wish there was some way to break through to these people how much they're coasting by in college. It's an utterly un-academic experience to be at a business school. It's just trade school for Excel or accounting software. If I couldn't dual degree English I might kill myself. I love the academic part of school.
Also hate the "gunners." So many people want to be an investment banker. I'd like to write them off as dumb ants but a couple of those I've met were intelligent grounded people. Why do you want to ruin your 20s by working 14 hour days 6 days a week being a sycophant to more senior bankers and competing with your junior peers to see who can be the most efficient wagie?

[Anonymous No.16213960]

>>16213937
I thought those trash tier jobs have long hours, thanks anyway

[Anonymous No.16213962]

>>16213956
I haven’t been bored since I was 21

[Anonymous No.16213965]

>>16213855
what positions have you interviewed for?

[Anonymous No.16213981]

>>16213958
College is to prepare you for the job market. It’s not 4 years of philosophical life experience like TV taught you. Liberal faggots in humanities who convince kids to pay 80k to “expand their horizons” are what’s wrong with America

[Anonymous No.16213982]

>>16213923
>I'm 31, about to turn 32. I have an easy white-collar job where I can work from home, but it still feels empty. It's a job where I write and edit for a living, but the topics are highly limited and I'm bored out of my mind.
I live on social help, and do nothing. I spend all day staring at an empty word document, desperately trying to write something and failing. At least you're DOING something. I'm just here, existing. I feel like an animal. Barely human.

[Anonymous No.16213983]

>>16213958
>So many people want to be an investment banker
why would anyone want to be a glorified salesman

[Anonymous No.16213997]

>>16213983
the moneeeeey

[Anonymous No.16214002]

>>16213958
>I dual major in 2 areas with absolutely zero overlap in course requirements and don’t wind up paying extra money for taking more credits
Lol, sure buddy

[Anonymous No.16214004]

>>16213982
Are you trying to write something hoping it will make you money?

[Anonymous No.16214007]

>>16213982
That's not a real problem

[Anonymous No.16214018]

>>16214004
Well, in the beginning, yeah. Isn't that the dream of every writer? But that was just in the beginning, a long time ago. Nowadays, no. Right now, I just want to finish a single story. Becoming famous off of it is just a bonus.

[Anonymous No.16214026]

>>16214007
In what sense?

[Anonymous No.16214031]

>>16214018
You accomplish nothing, but your on social help. So your not really existing and accomplishing nothing. You’re actually a drain on the planet and actively doing harm by staring at a computer.

[Anonymous No.16214058]

>>16213643
Do it again fucker and fuck everyone else. Do it again and piss them the fuck off.

Also rewatch gurren lagan for inspiration. Disregard thots and achieve greatness

[Anonymous No.16214067]

>>16214031
yes. I'm trash

[Anonymous No.16214089]

>>16213643
If this drives you to suicide you gotta rethink what's really important in life man, serious

[Anonymous No.16214100]

>>16214089
>what's really important in life man
nothing

[Anonymous No.16214102]

Just remember in November that all your problems are because of lax immigration enforcement anons

[Anonymous No.16214103]

I still got the shitty college debt attached but right before this semester started I said fuck it and just kept online only classes and next semester I might go to community college or do a lot of internships. Best decision of my life and saved myself a lot of trouble. I wish you the best OP, a lot of the advice In this thread isnt too bad so just be smart about it you can do it.

[Anonymous No.16214127]

>>16213820
Hey, I got accepted into Leiden to study a masters in International Relations. However, even with the cheaper course fees I can't afford the cost of living. Do you know if Leiden/The Netherlands offers any good bursaries or living allowances for students there? I read something about if you work 55 hours a month you can become eligible but then you need to do it for six months beforehand. Would appreciate the advice as I'd love to get out of the UK.

[Anonymous No.16214163]

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