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I love him bros

>> No.16189185

>>16188980
Read him twice. Even JS and Contra St. Beuve. Though he's very good and even instructive (his idea of memory is brilliant) I wouldn't say I love him. Montaigne, Rabelais, and even Flaubert take precedence among the Frenchies I admire.

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>>16188980
Is that Nikolai Tesla?

>> No.16190229

1.Sodom and Gomorrah
2. Within a Budding Grove
3. Swann's Way
4. The Guermantes Way
5. The Captive
6. Time Regained
7. The Fugitive
8. The Fugitive

>> No.16190242

>>16190229
should i read them out of order then?

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>>16190242
Please don't.

>> No.16190324

>>16190309
so many words tho...

>> No.16190331

>>16190324
The number of words will remain the same whether you read it out of order or not.

>> No.16190336

>>16190331
okay but if i only read one would you recommend swann's way or sodom and gomorrah

>> No.16190353

>>16190336
Swann's Way, without a doubt. It works well enough as a self-contained novel, and to read the work out of order would be like reading a book's chapters at random.

>> No.16190364

>>16190336
dont listen to him, just read S&G I'm sure you will fully understand the context of each character and the relevance of what will occur without the 3500 pages preceding it

>> No.16190420

I have next to zero interest in reading Proust and there's nothing you can say that will convince me otherwise.

>> No.16190507

>>16190229
Damn, I don't like seeing almost the best Proust has to offer after finishing only the first two parts. Is everything in spot 4 and below at least good? I'm guessing it's only of lower quality when compared to the parts you ranked higher.

>> No.16190649

>>16190507
Time Regained
Guermantes
Swann's Way
After Guermantes it becomes kind of a potboiler so your plot interest will rise and the quickest reading will be done then. Really, it's all solid

>> No.16190735

>>16188980
Me too. But the Recherche in some point is really boring and repetitive. I'm curious about the last book, "The time regained"

>> No.16190777

>>16190420
K

>> No.16190859

>>16190735
It ties up loose ends (Bloch and Odette, for instance) but also where Proust expounds or solidifies his views on art, memory, time and whatever else. It's good.

>> No.16190927

>>16190649
>Time Regained
>Guermantes
>Swann's Way
What's this rating that you posted? Your top 3 parts?
>After Guermantes it becomes kind of a potboiler so your plot interest will rise and the quickest reading will be done then
Huh, didn't expect that. I loved the first two volumes but they definitely were a slow read because of the complexity of the prose.

>> No.16191374

>>16190927
Yeah, favorites- but they're all pretty close. Vol 2 or the second half of 6 is slowest (a period of shock, illness, etc. for Marcel) but none of it's bad. I'm the first poster btw

>> No.16191426

>>16188980
I love him too, he is easily my favorite writer. I visited his grave in Paris, went to a lot of the cafes he visited, ordered the dishes he was famous for ordering there (a lot of them fucking sucked actually but whatever).

Proust and Montaigne changed my life. I always say, Proust taught me how to live, and Montaigne taught me how to die.

>> No.16191430

>>16191374
Ah, I see. Thanks for the response. I should be starting part 3 soon, I'm really looking forward to it, although I have to read the wikipedia page about the Dreyfus affair first. Any idea if there's an annotated verison for download on the internet? I read the second volume with Carter's annotations and that really enhanced the experience.

>> No.16191633

>>16191430
You should check out or google Zola's open letter J'Accuse as well. I'm not aware of any annotative help concerning the Dreyfus case but for the most part the haut 'public' opinionating you'll encounter in 3 is superficial at best-- 3 is essentially 2 large parties and therefore loaded up with superficial party talk
Also M. discovers John Ruskin when he's recuperating in 6 and becomes subsequently obsessed (just so you know). If you want prose in English as evocative as Proust's in French you should check out Ruskin's Stones of Venice when you're all done. It's both a beautiful and instructive book (on Gothic as opposed to Renaissance architecture)

>> No.16191703

>>16191633
Thanks for the heads up.

>> No.16191766

>>16191633
Butting in to thank you for the Ruskin rec. I'd been thinking about reading him as he was a great influence on Proust, but wasn't sure where to begin.

>> No.16191781

>>16191426
Based post anon

>> No.16192727

>>16191766
It is rather long, anon, but clear and thoroughly enjoyable. Shorter recs would include both The Seven Lamps of Architecture and Queen of the Air (Ruskin's still radical interpretation of goddess Athena as a meteorological diety)