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>Find out author was a fascist/racist/reactionary
>Take their book off my cart
Anyone else?

>> No.16131155
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>>16131142
That'd make me wanna get it more. Have gotten some of Lenin's work and the likes. Even if one dislikes & highly disagrees with someone, broadening herizons and learning new viewpoints is always good

>> No.16131156

faggot

>> No.16131196
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>>16131142
Me
Except instead of taking their book off my cart i instead also buy another book of theirs.

>> No.16131212

>>16131142
Same.

>> No.16131218

but Celine writes beautifully, op

>> No.16131223

>find out author btfo trannies on twitter
>buy their collected works
who else?

>> No.16131233

>>16131155
This. I'm a leftist but the last book I read was Harassment Architecture. Pretty good book even though I disagree with most of it. Mike Ma is sort of the farcical reincarnation of Brett Easton Ellis in that book.

>> No.16131291

>>16131223
Based Duginist, hopefully you post and make memes like your idol?

>> No.16131326

>>16131142
>be racist
>read books from all races and parts of the world anyway because die gedanken sind frei and I believe in people living in their own space while also being able to share knowledge with everyone

Ironic that the cuck obsessed with tolerance does as in OP, but a racist guy does this.

>> No.16131340

>>16131142
>find out author is Jewish
>spam their Goodreads, Twitter and Instagram profiles with private messages depicting common /pol/ antisemitic memes with the author's face superimposed upon where the face of the Jew is in the image
anyone else?

>> No.16131347

>>16131340
You have to be 18 to post on 4chan anon

>> No.16131397

>>16131142
Wouldn't it be obvious when reading more about the book?

>>16131326
But why would you also financially support someone whose world view could endanger people you care about? Say you believe in muh white genocide and the book is explictly about how great it'd be and encourages people to speed it up?

Besides, where is the interest in reading something that probably has nothing interesting to offer for you? Even as a non racist, I couldn't care less about another book decrying racism because it's likely they would be able to tell me anything seriously new.

>>16131340
Based free marketing.

>> No.16131413

>>16131142
I actually do the meme, if the author is an anti-monarchist/anti-conservative/progressist/anti-catholic/anti-religionist/homosexual enabler/thot enabler/etc. I actually stop reading them based on principle lol
am I missing out on any works of great literary value by doing so? the only one that comes to mind is el hombre que araña or something, I've never read it but some hispanic literature readers on /lit/ suggest it
but like i said, i'll never read it

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>>16131142
I actively avoid all information regarding the author's personal life and beliefs.

Pic related: the author's impoverished ideals vs me, the literary consoomer

>> No.16131489

>>16131397
>But why would you also financially support someone whose world view could endanger people you care about?
I don't "buy", I pirate almost everything.
>Say you believe in muh white genocide and the book is explictly about how great it'd be and encourages people to speed it up?
I don't read trash. I just don't turn down a good book because it was wrote by a non-white.
>Besides, where is the interest in reading something that probably has nothing interesting to offer for you?
wut
I don't even know what you're getting at, so if I wanna learn about woodworking and Mr. Chang is pretty top tier on the field, it offers me nothing and I shouldn't read it? You seem to have mistaken my post for "I read niggers talking about BLM and black egypt".

Interesting that an "anti-racist" is so short-sighted.

Racism is normal, everyone is born a racist, in animals it's called in-group preference, I have no need to cuck myself out of what comes to me as natural. People are the happiest when living among their own, this is a basic fact which is basically scientifically proven in a empirical way if you look at several studies done on multicultural places vs. homogeneous places. But anyway, let's not waste time on this topic, you'll believe what you want to and I'll do the same.

>> No.16131501

>>16131142
Any reason to not read Celine?

I am trying to avoid pro-degeneracy writers who write about sex being good.

>> No.16131503

>>16131413
Why can you not read anyone who disagrees or is different than you

>> No.16131507

>>16131142
Yes then I pirate it instead

>> No.16131510

>>16131142
I have read anything from Marx to Evola and Hitler to the Upanishads and I find bits and pieces of useful knowledge in all of them. Opinion shopping is why the world is a shitty place, one should be more open to new perspectives, that arent always as mutually exclusive as petty philistines would have you believe

>> No.16131512

>>16131503
Reading is a hobby meant for fun and personal enjoyment. What that looks like is different for everyone. Some people want to read to expand perspective and some people want to read only shit pertaining to them/that they agree with. Whether you think one is good or bad doesn’t matter, you can’t read “wrong” and everyone is entitled to read whatever the fuck they want

>> No.16131517

>>16131501
Good is not how most people would describe the sex in Celine

>> No.16131553

>>16131489
>I pirate almost everything.
Based.
>I just don't turn down a good book because it was wrote by a non-white.
But wouldn't your notion of good be affected by it? Say a part of the book being about their negro identity and how important it's to fight whitey – or would you just block ideas you don't like as "not good"?
>You seem to have mistaken my post for "I read niggers talking about BLM and black egypt".
Otherwise there isn't much conflict of interest in your position, hence pointing out that you're a racist doesn't play a role, especially since you don't pay for the shit.

Reading some super apolical book about woodworking when you will only figure the stance of the writer if you really dig deeper as a racist isn't the same as a non-racist reading some thinly veiled reactionary propaganda in a story.

>> No.16131558

>>16131155
Bluepilled

>> No.16131566

>>16131142
Can I have that list anon

>> No.16131567

>>16131397
>But why would you also financially support someone whose world view could endanger people you care about

Libraries exist. Torrenting books exist

>> No.16131594

>>16131567
Sure but in context of the thread it seemed given mention the commercial side too. Besides by creating interest for it, you still make a tiny contribution to the authors case. If the library sees people are interested in their work, they will order more copies. Some torrent sites have ranking systems that push torrents with many downloads up, giving it more visibility.

>> No.16131618

>>16131553
>But wouldn't your notion of good be affected by it? Say a part of the book being about their negro identity and how important it's to fight whitey – or would you just block ideas you don't like as "not good"?
I just don't read that kind of books, and if somehow someone tried to shoehorn a cringe think like that in there I'd shrug it off and just enjoy the good parts. Nothing and no one is perfect it's the same when you read a white guy and he somehow shoehorns some cringe white guilt shit or something like that, I just roll my eyes and keep reading. Chances are that as I'm not reading a book about that topic, the autor will be pleased about their witty remark and go on to the topic of the book.
>hence pointing out that you're a racist doesn't play a role
OP is basically saying that he outright refuses to read something if the autor isn't part of his political sphere and then I found it funny because it would be the same as not reading someone just because his race. While these people pride themselves in being all-loving and all-accepting the fact that they'd do an equivalent discrimination as what a racist would do just switching race by politics was funny and ironic to me. While someone like me, an actual racist (by modern standards) doesn't even do anything close to that.
>Reading some super apolical book about woodworking when you will only figure the stance of the writer if you really dig deeper as a racist isn't the same as a non-racist reading some thinly veiled reactionary propaganda in a story.
I don't know what you mean by that, but honestly I don't think caring about the author or something at all is healthy or useful. I don't care about the worldview of the chinese kid who sews my clothing, yet I wear it. Focus on the information and knowledge itself, the body is a mere vehicle for the mind.

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>>16131142
>find out writer is a leftist
>forget everything i've ever read of theirs
Anyone else?

>> No.16131638

>>16131142
you will never pass nigger chud

>> No.16131645

>But Das Kapital
>Find out its by the same guy who wrote the communist manifesto
>Burn the book
Anyone else?

>> No.16131668

>>16131618
>just switching race by politics was funny and ironic to me
One is something one can't affect while the other is a set of ideas someone chooses (usually actively too), so there isn't too much in common.
>I don't care about the worldview of the chinese kid who sews my clothing
Well, it's unlikely his worldview has any effect on his work. I don't mind listening to Wagner or Sibelius either since the notes don't exactly capture their ideas on race.
>Focus on the information and knowledge itself, the body is a mere vehicle for the mind.
Sounds reasonable and logical, until the worldview of a writer affects the sort of information you get and how it's presented. And then it becomes a choice of shrugging off most of it until you get a few good parts or just skipping it altogether.

>> No.16131676

>>16131142
>Find out author was a fascist/racist/reactionary
>Add more of their books to my cart

That's how it should be OP.

>> No.16131707

>>16131668
>One is something one can't affect while the other is a set of ideas someone chooses (usually actively too), so there isn't too much in common.
I always found that to be a big cope so people feel that their preferred kind of discrimination is not entirely taboo just because "he could change it, he chose it".
Calling someone a nigger or a fat fuck is literally the same no matter the mental gymnastics, it's hurtful and damages the individual and in essence it's the same, you try to shame someone for a quality they have. You just justify yourself because "lol if he doesn't want to be called a fat fuck then he should lose weight" which translates to "he should be something I like if he didn't want me insulting him" which a racist and a fatshamer both would agree on.
>Well, it's unlikely his worldview has any effect on his work.
Exactly, why would a nigger care about lovecraft disliking niggers if all he wants is the fucking Cthulhu.
>until the worldview of a writer affects the sort of information you get and how it's presented. And then it becomes a choice of shrugging off most of it until you get a few good parts or just skipping it altogether.
Honestly I never came across some non-white who went on an on about race or politics on a book in which race or politics isn't the main topic, but yeah.

>> No.16131731

>>16131503
Because Socialist thought relies entirely on censorship to survive.

As evidenced by the OP.

>> No.16131775

>>16131223
Say no more. Harry Potter collection on its way famm

>> No.16131794

>>16131707
>Calling someone a nigger or a fat fuck is literally the same no matter the mental gymnastics
Not quite, one also tends to actively hurt others while the other is visual unappealing at worst.
>why would a nigger care about lovecraft disliking niggers if all he wants is the fucking Cthulhu.
It's also very likely that the dislike for niggers will get brought up in other ways like lack of black characters in positive/neutral light or some ramblings on the side. But sure, if the writer can contain their shit or it's at least not too obvious, there isn't a reason to mind their views, especially with dead guys who aren't getting any money.
>>16131731
>voting with your wallet is socialist
Sounds like OP just goes along with the free market.

>> No.16131834

>>16131794
>Not quite, one also tends to actively hurt others while the other is visual unappealing at worst.
Yep, fat people haven't ever commited suicide due to people picking on them because they are fat.
>It's also very likely that the dislike for niggers will get brought up in other ways like lack of black characters in positive/neutral light or some ramblings on the side.
Why would he care about there being no blacks on it? Only a racist would care about that.
>especially with dead guys who aren't getting any money.
Honestly why do you care so much about people getting money? If a non-white wrote or invented something that's useful to me or that I like, I wouldn't care about them getting my money no matter what their opinions or thoughts are on politics or whatever.

We just have differing points of view on this topic. I'll just say that caring too much about these things will do you no good. Enjoy things, stop worrying about who gets what, life is too short.

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>>16131731
Not really

>> No.16131855

>>16131233
youre a faggot is what you are

>> No.16131868

>>16131855
Not everyone is a fag just because you are