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POST HERE YOUR QUESTIONS THAT DON'T DESERVE THEIR OWN THREAD:
>Books with X theme?
>What am I in for?
>What was his/her problem?
>Books like X?
>Do I need to read X to understand Y?
>other questions I can't think of right now

Direct all questions that in your opinion don't deserve their own thread to here.
Keep this thread open if you like to help fellow anons with their questions
Turning this in a general avoids newfags asking those same questions over and over again.
Also other repetitive posts that don't really need their own thread can be directed here

Feel free to discuss your thoughts about this becoming a general and maybe improve the template, and save it on our wiki so we could easily copy paste.

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>mfw

>> No.16077291

Does anyone else enjoy taking the questions here and posting them as a thread out of spite?

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16077294

Is conditioning, as in behaviorism, used anywhere in the real world? Or is it just an abstract theory with no application?

>> No.16077300

What is the best Bukowski poem?

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>> No.16077311

>>16077274
How come I cant stop watching interracial porn?

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>> No.16077360

>>16077303
Why do midwits mistake stereotyping for genuine insight?

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>> No.16077570

>>16077560
>>16077380
>>16077323
>>16077312
>>16077303
>>16077284
why is megan boyle spammer AKA weird edited footfag tweet screenshot guy AKA footfag roll images guy dumping his entire folder in the qtddtot thread

>> No.16077580

>>16077294
It's no longer considered the dominant school of thought but it's principles are used in dog/animal training all over the world. Animal behaviorist is still a valid career path.

>> No.16077581

>>16077570
simps advertising for their e-celeb waifu

>> No.16077583

whats with the influx of mouth breathing shit eating r*dditors smearing their greasy cum hands all over this board

>> No.16077589

How do I get rid of dandruff?
>Bro, just use Head and Shoulders
Doesn't work for me.

>> No.16077590

>>16077581
cringe

>> No.16077597

>>16077570
He hates /lit/ and wants low quality off topic content to derail decent threads.
>>16077583
Answered in the previous thread you stupid nigger.

>> No.16077621

>>16077597
oh cool, found it thanks

>> No.16077639

>>16077589
I waged a war against dandruff for years with Head and Shoulders and barely had success. Then I switched to Selsun Blue and my dandruff disappeared overnight. Don't ask me how that works since I'm pretty sure they have the same active ingredient.

Can't make any promises but at least try the shit.

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>>16077274
Which edition/translation of The Book of Disquiet is better?

>> No.16077645

>>16077589
I think its in hair combing. Find the correct amount of combing for you. I really enjoy it, so ifnd I usually go overboard and my dandruff gets worse. If I only do it for like five minutes though, it gets better. i think it spreads the oil in your hair better idk, but it helps.

>> No.16077647

>>16077621
What did it say?

>> No.16077657

>>16077589
Take the baldpill, my friend

>> No.16077658

>>16077647
what are you my fucking teacher

>> No.16077677

>>16077643
I enjoyed the penguin classics version

>> No.16077710

Let's say i read The Trial and i didn't like it. Should i expect more of The Castle?

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Does this stuff work?

>> No.16077785

>>16077754
I used to like falling asleep to that stuff. The advice isn't exactly wrong but it's more aimed at fanfiction writers trying to make their genre fiction more presentable

>> No.16077970

>>16077710
The Castle is by far the best of his three unfinished novels. The scope of it went beyond what The Trial covered, and had more to do with the oppression society applies on itself rather than just the protplotypical “man against society” that The Trial was more focused on. The Castle is also funnier, more poignant, more thought provoking, and overall a better written story. Kafka clearly has a vision for The Castle that he had been lacking with Amerika and The Trial, and he must have learned from his mistakes, since The Castle was his last attempt at long fiction until just before he died. I feel that The Castle was only about 1/3 complete, so it would have been a massive book had he completed it. It also has a large cast of characters, many of whom seem incidental when first introduced, but later get fleshed out and we get to see who they really are as people and not just caricatures, which is what I feel The Trial was mainly about with its characters.

>> No.16077991

Why is the a sffg thread, but not a thread for genre fiction. It would be healthy for the board imo

>> No.16078115

>>16077274
18yo zoomer here, read some Nietzsche, but I wanna start with the greeks. Plato's Republic first, right?

>> No.16078124

>>16077991
Do generals need approval? sffg survives because people use it

>> No.16078268

I have an opportunity to get one book. Which book will benefit the most from being read in physical form? I'm thinking of getting Infinite Jest because apparently there are a lot of footnotes and they don't work well in my ancient kindle. Any other books I should consider?

>> No.16078563

Any German-anon here? What's a good edition of Wagner's libretti?

>> No.16078571

>>16078115
Start with Five Dialogues, then Republic.

>> No.16078938 [DELETED] 

>>16077658
>what are you my fucking teacher

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>hates /lit/ and wants low quality off topic content to derail decent threads.

>> No.16080680

bump

>> No.16080742

Infinite Jest would be a good choice. It’s not footnotes. It’s endnotes, and they’re important. Pale Fire is similar, and written by a guy who actually had discernible talent, though, so get that.

>> No.16080748

>>16080742
Was for >>16078268

>> No.16080752

>>16080742
>>16078268
I think I remember Wallace saying that he wanted to have footnotes but the editor insisted on endnotes. But he also said he wanted something that breaks up and fragments the reading to simulate modern information culture or something so maybe endnotes were even better?

>> No.16080779

>>16080752
Some of the notes run really long, like tens of pages. It would be a formatting nightmare to try to have them as footnotes.

>> No.16080782

>>16077589
Try ketoconazol

>> No.16080786

>>16078115
start with the presocratics
listen to this for guidance:
https://historyofphilosophy.net/all-episodes

>> No.16080810

I made the mistake of buying P&V translations for The Brothers Karamazov and Demons.
Will I miss out on too much with them?

>> No.16081783

>>16078571
>>16080786
thanks, anons.

>> No.16081921

>>16077303
>>16077323
I just checked and there are no cum tributes done to this bitch, this is 4chan's time to shine.

>> No.16082215

>>16080742
>>16080748
Thanks.

>> No.16082220

>>16077274
Where should I start with Holderlin? Prereqs?

>> No.16082256

>>16077323
https://www.wellesley.edu/events/commencement/archives/2018/commencementaddress

Seems like Rupi Kaur was not the commencement speaker at Wellesley in 2018. I doubt this pic or the other Rupi Kaur excerpt above are even real.

>> No.16082286
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16082286

what are good places to find used books in the UK?
I want to find pic related version of Ada or Ardor

>> No.16082324

>>16082220
Try the chapter on him in Zweig's Struggle with the Daemon

>> No.16082578

Any good darkly comedic stuff?

>> No.16082582

>>16082256
i was there, i heard the whole thing

>> No.16082902

that pynchon interview was shit

>> No.16082922

Any recommendations on the linguistic and semiotic aspects of mathematics?

>> No.16083648

>>16077274
Should i read Kant's Prolegomena if i don't plan to read the first critique immediatly after it?
Kant is a pleasure to read even if i don't grasp everything

>> No.16083678

>>16082922
Remarks on the Foundations of Mathematics, Wittgenstein (but you sort of need to know his philosophy from Philosophical Investigations and On Certainty to get the most out of it)

Proofs and Refutations: The Logic of Mathematical Discovery, lakatos (short fun dialogue format)

https://conservancy.umn.edu/bitstream/handle/11299/185656/11_10Stein.pdf

>> No.16083719

>>16083648
Yeah, it summarizes the conclusions.

>> No.16084113

which book of the charlie parker series contains the scene where louis (and angel?) destroys a small scale child trafficking org in a brothel

>> No.16084134

>>16077991
Penning up every discussion that has to do with anything that can be considered genre fiction wouldn’t be healthy for the board, idiot
“Genre fiction” is really, really broad

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how these ribs?

>> No.16085484

>>16077274
i had some thoughts that i wanted to share with you guys.
>The idea of a literature discussion board on the internet doesn't make sense.
for every 600 pages i read from a book i could make 30 mins of discussions at best, while the book itself took 15 hours to read more or less.
(A letter based system would be more effective i think).
That's why the quality of the board depends not on the amount of low effort posters but on the time is required to make a post worth replying to.
so, Should a) /lit/ only attract people that already have a consistent reading habit as part of their lives, which it isn't 100% the case, or b) gatekeep all the low effort posters, which it also doesn't very well at all.
So it's like a paradox, on one hand you have people that do read but don't discuss what they read and come here to shitpost and people that don't read at all.
What is left for people that want to see /lit/ actually fulfilling it's potential and recovering that status that has lost in the last few months among the other boards.

>> No.16085496

>>16085484
>for every 600 pages i read from a book i could make 30 mins of discussions at best
Okay retard

>> No.16085510

I'd like some books that have actual arguments for trans-humanism or futurism in general and books that argue against them.

>> No.16086048

reposting

what's the difference between these when it comes to writing fiction?
what are their uses? when should i be using either?
>past tense v. present tense
>first person v. third person (or even second person)
>block paragraphs v. indent paragraphs

>> No.16086602

>>16077274
Any books i can read to satisfy my petty crimes urges? Any like solo assassin's story à la Crime & Punishment?

>> No.16087279

>>16083678
Thank you

>> No.16087494

>>16082578
The op pic thomas pynchon has a lot of good dark humor. Gravity's rainbow is good

>> No.16087584

What are books about living and interacting with dissemblers?

>> No.16087721

Has the most famous (or important) human being in the history of the human race already been born?

>> No.16087835

>>16087721
>>16087721
Julius Caesar died a long time ago, anon

>> No.16087891

>>16077380
nip

>> No.16087952

>>16077274
What's Pynchon's endgame? Why be this mysterious boomer who never does public interviews and his post-modern fiction will be forever misinterpreted? It makes no sense

>> No.16087968

>>16087835
I actually thought you were going to say Jesus, which would be a plausible answer.

Julius Caesar doesn't even come close.

>> No.16087987

>>16084113
Who would you cast in a Charlie Parker series? I guess Liam Neeson would be an ok Parker but he's too old now.

>> No.16088239

>>16087952
He probably hates publicity/celebrity. His endgame is avoiding the negative aspects of fame.

>> No.16088333

>>16077274
Wait is that Suarez?

>> No.16088360
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Is Penguin or Oxford better for Shakespeare, as in better footnotes, introductions etc ?

>> No.16088401

Who are the best american writers fiction and non-fictionwise?

>> No.16088429

>>16087584
anything by Stendhal

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reposting from another thread, probably should have gone in here

Does spinoza's reasoning for an infinite being have any justification for it being conscious as opposed to it just being a constant? I know in his view God and the universe are interchangeable but what is the reasoning for it being aware, at least at one point, as opposed to it just being the ever existing state of things

>> No.16089152 [DELETED] 

yoyoyo
hey
yo
hey
heyo man
hi, how ya doin
nananana
No
Nononono
hey, no
if y'all just
my God
y'all just keep on
nono-No, wait
wait
wait
oh man
you guys are too much
how I spozed
nonono
How I supposed
if
If you
If any y'all just lemme finish
Ok
Thank you
Fuck.
Why you mad about it though?

>> No.16089183 [DELETED] 

man I don't even
nahnahnah
you can't
nahnahnah
Nananananah
Y'all sick
pfft
Sick
Sick in the head
How YOU not see it?
can't you see the nice tables staring?
nah
Man-
Nah
Don't say that
They fine
Hey
Hey
Hey hey hey-
Guys- Y'all
Don't you start in-
y'all need
Y'all don't just need Jesus, you need all the apostles and they cousins
Oh yeah?
Yeah you a prophet?
Man, the fuck a prophet ever do to you?

>> No.16089270 [DELETED] 

no tell me for what
man
no
no, I don't smell anything, sorry
well maybe that's some phantom odor
I don't know, I ain't an ENT
No, not e-M-t
e-N-t
Like an otolaryngologist
He
Or she
They be an ENT
Or under that same umbrella
They be much more receptive to your inquiries, officer
Oh you not? Gear coulda fooled me, got the snappy polo, tool belt
Really?
What you call yourself
Neighborhood Attendant?
Shit, they don't append "security"" or "agent" or even "guard" anywhere?
You got the look, man, the taser, the club, you ready for riots, ain't you?
And they send you out here to what, roust combusting Negros?
Well, why you here?
Oh, fuck
Fuck me, man
Fuck, I'm sorry, shit
I'm a little hopped up
Yeah yeah, you been watching, you know
It's all fucked up. I'm fucked up. I'm sorry, man.
What kinda weight you need?

>> No.16090494

>>16077274
what's the best book on german grammar with exercises? preferably completely in german

>> No.16090638

Two questions:

1. What are some of the better audiobooks?

I have some long hikes coming up and I want books conducive to listening.

2. What are some books on writing process?

Not looking for the writing routine but the actual process of storyboarding, writing, editing, etc.

>> No.16090742 [DELETED] 

I don't know about that one, bruh
Well
Hold-
Mmhmm
mm
M-
May I?
Ok,
No, you're mostly correct, far as I can tell
Yeah, you could say
mmh-
No, it's good you passionate. Maybe it's like you say.
Hold up though,
Hold up
No. No. But hold up.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Yeah, bruh
I am telling you what's up.
We all holding up, yes.
Well ima tell you
Ima tell you if you let me
Olmec, please
Yeah, I been tryna say that more, hasn't caught on yet, but it's got wheels, Olmec, please, Olmec-esque, Olmecky, I think maybe in the next eighteenth months, kinda depends
Yeah, bruh, if Olmec wills it, kinda a whole philosophy there, ya dig?
If you don't mind me saying, as a friend-
No, ima tell you, ima say it, no skip
You order double the bay bickies, and you keep ordering, and I swear, two thirds of the time, it you get quantity into double digits, their ordering system drops it off the bill, some kinda error they haven't patched.
My food budget keep trending down ever since I bring that quant shit to the biscuit market
No, man, it true. It work since Q3 2019, probably pending some big upgrade, you know how capital be
Nah, man, try it.
Man, you don't believe in anything.
Why you on all about this doubtful?

>> No.16090762 [DELETED] 

>>16082922
Lakatos, Proofs and Repetitions

>> No.16090792

>>16086602
A Thief's Journal by Genet

>> No.16090882

Anyone know where I can find lists writing exercises and prompts? I have written anything since I graduated high school and after shitposting here for years I'm certain my ability to write has severely deteriorated. I just need prompts and exercises.

>> No.16090892

>>16077589
Olive oil

>> No.16091070

>>16078115
UPenn has a free online class on ancient philosophy, covering from the Pre-Socratics to the Stoics. Check that out.

>> No.16091871 [DELETED] 

eyo bro
good to see you too
yeah I'm in 17-B32
cost a pretty penny
yeah they out tonight
fine as fuck, in force
I know
I know
they out here with one thing on their mind
finna get that D-Therapy
Yea, D-T's
Get after it, man, get after
Yeah she Exhibit A for, man why we take the escalator
Yeah man, gifted girl society struttin they stilettoes
Say what?
I don't know about that man.
It's too scary to be real, you really think so? There some surgeon finna make erybody think women shaped like cellos, like he possessed by some booty-dwellin djinn
You really think so? I don't know man, one of them bitches woulda talked to some gossip or scandal monger site
No man, some surgical scrub tech woulda talked
Nah man, no way
You can't grow fat in external tanks
Man, you maybe too ripe, you really think if they got cloning technology worked out, they'd make copies of themselves just to scoop out the good good adipose? They'd have to inject multiple times a year. I don't know, you don't think it's the red beans and rice lottery?

>> No.16091900

Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?

>> No.16092139

>>16087952
He is not a recluse to spite you. He's just a grumpy old man who doesn't want to talk to people about books he wrote 40 years ago. I don't think there is an "endgame," seems to me that he just wants to live and die quietly

>> No.16092155

>>16087952
It's not his job to educate readers

>>16088360
oxford

>> No.16092305

Books about TRYING to find God, the Absolute, or the truth?

>> No.16092328

should i read infinity jester or joseppi and his bruddahs

>> No.16092519

Name of the short film in Infinite Jest about a candle/match being driven around a city?

>> No.16092605
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How can "it was all dream" endings be done without feeling shallow and being offensive to the audience?

>> No.16092630

>>16092605
Do not ever attempt

>> No.16092639

>>16092630
I have to

>> No.16092747

I want to start reading before i go to bed but also listen to audiobooks while driving. What service do I need for them to link? I'm guessing audible is the obvious one, but is there a way to link it to a kindle?

>> No.16092794

>>16092747
for example im on page 90 and i read 40 pages before i sleep and then in the morning how do i make it be on the same page when i listen to the audio?

>> No.16092810

Looking at /lit/s top 100 books of all time, where do I start bros? something easy.

>> No.16092847 [DELETED] 

why are creampies so literary?

>> No.16092852

>>16092605
have the dream be an early established idea and the main focus of the book, the goal of the main character to realize he is dreaming and attempt to wake up from coma. Your book will still be shit but it will be evenly distributed shit instead of a mountain of shit at the end.

>> No.16092866

Should I jump straight into Gravity Rainbow or it's better to read other stuff by him beforehand?

>> No.16092886

>>16092866
learn about the chemical composition of bananas beforehand

>> No.16092974

>>16090792
>A Thief's Journal by Genet

Looks good my man, thank you

>> No.16092996

>>16092810
Monte CristO and Les Mis are easy and enjoyable reads that are long enough to build the reading habit if you are interested in literature as a hobby

>> No.16093005

>>16092810
L'etranger is a good place to start
>>16092866
I read CoL49 beforehand but I could have gone straight for GR

>> No.16093312

>>16077274
what's the difference between passive and active prose?

>> No.16093318

>>16093312
Passive prose uses past tense, active uses present

>> No.16093324

>>16077274
new /lit/ collab when

>> No.16093327

>>16093312
passive uses adverbs while active uses adjectives

>> No.16093341

>>16077274
Is Gormenghast good even if I haven't read as much literary fantasy?

>> No.16093359

why tho?

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Any other fun and contemporary books like this?

>> No.16093910

>>16093341
Yes. It's highly visual and has a very unique atmosphere and cast, even going by fantasy standards. Some find it very dry and slow because there isn't much action. The closest thing to its aesthetics I know of are Tim Burton's films.

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>>16077274
Hey so I actually made a thread before I remembered that these threads exist. Sorry. Anyway here is my OP from that thread:

What books does your mom read /lit/?
It's my mom birthday soon and I want to buy her a fiction book and looking for inspiration or recommendations.
Doesn't need to be high brow or anything, but she's not into sappy romance shit or anything like that. She's just a normal woman in her 50s I guess. She's hardly an intellectual but she did an Arts degree back in the day so she's not retarded.
She has no particular interests I can discern (believe me I've tried, maybe I'm autistic?). I guess she likes East Asian culture if you need something to help you decide but any suggestion is appreciated.

Feel free to post any opinion you have on women and their reading habits since that might also help me make a decision.

>> No.16094036 [DELETED] 

Too real, man.
It true though.
Man that sick
Ain't my doing
I know, but still
You know I'm right
He right
He know
I don't wanna be but
Why you think that is?
Why what?
How you notice this curious coincidence yourself?
You mean like method-ology?
Yeah, sample size, son. How many girls you include in your survey?
Hard to say, it's not like I know many of em personally
Well how you know the ladies enough you can indict their hygiene?
You see em around campus and shit and you just learn it, you can't unsee it once you see it, like when you learn to see the ashy stubbles on Caucasian skin
Ok, I follow so far, but still it feel a little super sleuthy, you sure it wasn't just a rainy season
Nah man, all womens, all around the campus, walkin, tram, bus routes, bikes, if they fair skin and they got painted toes, they using paint to mask what soap don't do
I don't get how you see all that small dirt under their toe nails with your own eyes though?
Not just with my own eyes, I got some hidden cameras I bought abroad that take great photos. Girls think I'm clicking a pen but I'm building a high def archive of their anatomy
Shit man, you ain't bluffin
I don't like talking about too many of these kinda tricks, proprietary stuff you can't have gabbing around the block
Why you think that is though?
Why I'm hush hush about my creepyzooms?
Nah, why white girls feet so bad unless they lower middle class or below? It's like white girls' feet susceptible to affluenza
Fuck if I know, I just gotta want you though, these coeds, if they got gross feet, you know you risking a tumble down cheese whiz gulch
Fuck man, who safe out here?
We goin to a house party thrown by the Pakistani Student Alliance and attended by a buncha rich ass princesses. That's where we try our luck, not on Katie and Liz, not tonight, my man.
Pakistani?
Yeah man, cutest feet on the planet, that's why Alexander stopped when he reached Pakistan. What more could he conquer?
He ain't ever seen Chinese girls feet?

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What are some books to help with my poor attention span? I've been starting to use my phone to read books but I keep pausing to do other shit while reading

>> No.16094246

>>16094240
Short stories. Find a collection where most stories are under 20 pages and just read one a day

>> No.16094253

>>16094246
Any recommendations?

>> No.16094255

>>16093929
My mom reads christian theology books exclusively

>> No.16094264
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>>16094253
If you're not well read then maybe find something from various authors, pic related or similar. If you want a specific author then try someone like Borges or Maupassant.

>> No.16094322

>>16094253
Kafka, joyce, Hemingway

>> No.16094326

>>16094264
Thanks bro

>> No.16094648

>>16094246
>short stories
Nice recommendation pleb

>> No.16095655

>>16077274
give me some retarded quote that nobody can understand for my instagram story to mock normies who post quotes. I'm the normie for still having an instagram account

>> No.16095686

>>16095655
“’The good of the country’ is always invoked with regard to an act contrary to the laws and justice of the nation.” - James Hepburn

>> No.16095700

>>16095655
“The Chinese invented the drop of water falling on the head. The French invented silence.” - Henri Charriere

>> No.16095837

>>16095686
>>16095700
not bad, not bad. googled hegel quotes and got
>We learn from history that we do not learn from history.

>> No.16096163 [DELETED] 

Why hasn't the publishing industry done more more to get libraries closed down? Seems like they're leaving money on the table.

>> No.16096227 [DELETED] 

chapofrens linked me to this thread whats all this?

>> No.16096283

>>16077274
Does anybody have a recommendation for books about European cultural history?

>> No.16096623

>>16087987
benedict cumberbatch as charlie parker
john leguziamo as angel
kevin hart as louis

>> No.16096926

Where should I go to buy physical copies of Plato and Aristotle in the original Greek?

>> No.16096937 [DELETED] 

What's up with that?

>> No.16097355 [DELETED] 

>>16077284
whats the most literary hair dye?

>> No.16097462

Books about the crazyness and stupidity of the television medium and the more traditional information medium like newspapers?

>> No.16097478

>>16092605
Tbh the only thing I can think of is to have the book be surreal/absurd, so the fact that it was all a dream justifies the whole story. Think Eraserhead.

>> No.16097899

>>16097478
The Man Who Was Thursday does this also, but in a way where you aren't sure whether it was really a dream or not

>> No.16097901

What about it?

>> No.16097925

>>16077274
huh?

>> No.16098552 [DELETED] 

Is this like the thread you'd get from too many clicks on a Warcraft peasant?

>> No.16098641

>>16092866
GB is almost a sequel to V. It has some of the characters and themes. (V-2 Rocket)

>> No.16098668

>>16090494
Not sure but I learned from Jannach

>> No.16099160

I rather see 5 new posts a day than whatever the the bullshit faggots are posting.

>> No.16099758

I'm looking for a collection of fantasy books/comics with a young female protagonist and villain with multiple arms, my niece is young and wants this collection for her birthday but I have no idea what the fuck they're called, all I know is the protoganist is a kid and the villain is a scary dude with a lot of arms, she says it's like a comic but also has pages, I'm getting desperate because I can't find it anywhere, someone please help me or tell me where to look.

>> No.16100092

>>16077311
Honestly I only found it hot when I was racist and had existential fear over the white race

Now i grew out of it and I find it stupid now. I try get back into the racist mindset to feel turned on by it again but its not easy.

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I have spent the last three months indoors ordering food and not going outside, I can't seem to focus on anything productive just fucking lose myself in distractions. Am I a hedonist? A nihilist? I am so spiritually lost, what books do you recommend to help me not lose my sanity and actually focus myself with something meaningful?

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Books to counter this?

>> No.16100403

>>16098552
Warcraft is fucking gay bro.

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Any decent books about skateboarding?

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Why does /lit/ recommend Leviticus so much? Book is ass.

>> No.16100820

>>16085484
that is true even to discussions among friends.
There is really no way to escape the abyss between the amount of time you need to read and to discuss.
The best thing are letters imo, but even then you'd need a mailing list and many people contributing!!! I tried to e-mail someone and we shared a bunch of letters, we talked about all sorts of themes and each message were a couple of pages long (if we were to copy them to a text editor), but eventually the emails were shorter and shorter and them they stopped coming :(

>> No.16100837 [DELETED] 

>>16100403
>um not listening

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why does sincerity pwn irony so hard?

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Does anyone have that zizek meme of him in bed surrounded by anime shit

>> No.16100996

>>16100837
Stop playing Blizzard RTS

>> No.16101009 [DELETED] 

>>16100996
Nigga, maybe people reference memories lmfao you people are something else.

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What books does he read, /lit/?

>> No.16101015 [DELETED] 

>>16077274
Is DFW really in cryonic sleep?

>> No.16101118

>>16101009
Don't know what you're on about. I'm an AOE chad.

>> No.16101119 [DELETED] 

Are books better with an x in the title

>> No.16101123

>>16101015
No
>>16101119
Yes

>> No.16101144

>>16101013
Twitter

>> No.16101153 [DELETED] 

>>16101118
I was talking about Warcraft 2.

>> No.16101205

>>16101153
Could be worse..

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>>16077274
All questions should be argumentative to anon, including anon asking the question.
If you can google your question go to /b/

>> No.16101655

>>16077274
Should one read Mishima's tetralogy in order or it doesn't really matter? I'm asking because I've only found The Temple of Dawn, and I don't know if I'd understand it, or even appreciate it, without reading the first and second books.

>> No.16101818

>>16101655
Just make a thread for it

>> No.16102040

>>16093929
my mom reads victorian marriage plots and books about how trees work

>> No.16102064

>>16101655
You definitely should. They follow one character sequentially through his life (he's not always the main focus, but still) and the events of the earlier novels are essential to the latter ones.

>> No.16102501

>>16101655
this is exactly the type of questions that DO deserve their own thread

>> No.16102560

>>16077274
really grand emotional books about a very real feeling character's inner life? I've always wanted to read a book that feels like the end of an album like Age of Adz or Twin fantasy

>> No.16102569

What works could I read to understand Confucianism? Are Confucius' works good for a beginner? Also a complete newfag to philosophy, if that helps any.

>> No.16102573

>>16097355
Seven

>> No.16103220

>>16093929
>>16093929
My mum is currently reading Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China. She's really enjoying it plus its East Asian so it'd interest your mum obviously.

>> No.16103252

Never really read any fantasy or sci fi before. Should I read Tolkien or book of the new sun first?

>> No.16103373

>>16077589
I had good results with 'Redken Scalp Relief Dandruff Control Shampoo' after about two weeks but there are other working shampoos. Maybe go to a dermatologist?

>> No.16103377

>>16077294
Conditioning (both classical and operant) is a very real and utterly pervasive phenomenon. A tremendous amount of behavior is partially explained via conditioning. Take a look at modern theories of reinforcement learning (in both AI and psychology) to see just how pervasive it is.

That said, behaviorism as espoused by Skinner is totally dead. But behaviorism is a methodological doctrine in psychology. Conditioning is a very real phenomenon.

>> No.16103379

>>16078115
Read some Descartes up front also. Lest you become totally mired in pre-modernity.

>> No.16103385

>>16083648
For sure, Prolegomena is fun.

>>16083678
No idea wtf the original question means but Proofs and Refs is a fucking beautiful fucking piece of philosophy that everyone should read.

>> No.16103388

What are some books that are attractive from both a philosophy and a literature point of view? I feel like I'm trapped between the both right now (tho I'm ultimately inclined to lit).
Considering reading the Zarathustra but I've never read the bible nor Nietzsche so I think I'd miss a lot of stuff there.

>> No.16103389

>>16088360
Never read these but I feel obligated to throw the Arden Shakespeare up for consideration. I always found their intros very informative and their notes very extensive for the subtleties of Elizabethan English.

>> No.16103396

>>16100878
I don't but I'd like to see this also.

>> No.16103403

>>16103388
For philosophy that is written in a beautiful literary style, see >>16103388 and, believe it or not, Quine's Word and Object.

But I doubt that's exactly what you're asking for...

>> No.16103423

>>16103403
Anon, you quote me twice. What was the other post?
(Thank you for the two (you) anyway) Have you two as well >>16103403

>> No.16103426

>>16103423
Oops sorry lol, I meant >>16103385

>> No.16103434

>>16087721
No. The new technology titans will take that privilege when they colonise other planets and create advanced AI, etc.

>> No.16103445

>>16103426
np, thanks. I had no idea Kant had wrote such book, I've been hearing a lot of stuff about him. Seems a good entry point.
Also, I'm reading about that Quentin book and I don't understand shit, is it easy, in your opinion? I'm interested in philosophy of language as well, but I'm a newbie.
I'm reluctant to Proofs and Recs bc I'm a bit skeptic about the scientific discourse, but I'll keep it in mind, I admit I'm ignorant about it.

>> No.16103486

>>16103445
Sorry should have been clearer. Prolegomena is NOT literary. I mean, it was his attempt to write a "layman's" version of his philosophy and it is definitely more approachable than his other work but the prose basically 0 aesthetic value.

Proofs and Refs is simply a dialogue about a bunch of students who are trying to mathematically prove a particular claim in geometry. The book is based in history; historically there were several "false proofs" and misunderstandings, and the disputants in the story all have real-life historical analogues. It's presents a really fascinating thesis (namely, mathematics can be every bit as messy and contentious an area of inquiry as empirical science) and it does so in elegant and engaging dialogue format (which is something of a lost art in philosophical writing). To appreciate it, you'll have to "do the proofs" yourself alongside the argument, so it involves doing some mathematics yourself. But it's not too hard, the reasoning is spelled-out for you at every step to "guide your understanding," and is very fun.

The Quine book is NOT easy to fully understand, to be honest. It's deep analytic philosophy, and it also is engaged with concerns that are, in several ways, specific to mid-40s/50s philosophy of language. I recommend it simply because Quine writes some of the most poetic prose, and has some of the most beautiful analogies and turns of phrase I have ever come across in philosophical writing, and quite honestly in any writing of any kind. But it's all in the service of advancing fairly recherche claims about phil language and logic. That said, don't bother reading ABOUT it and try actually reading it. A good friend of mine once complained "Word and Object is awful because it's so engaging you get lulled into thinking you're being told a fairy tale when in fact there is serious and contentious argumentation going on." So even if you don't really understand what Quine's up to, it can be a pleasurable and stimulating experience to read.

>> No.16103494

>>16103220
Thanks

>> No.16104529

Should I read Tristram Shandy or Sartor Resartus next?

>> No.16104583

>>16097462
Anyone?

>> No.16104592

I want to be someone "important" like an artist to prove my mortal significance over mortals. To prove that I am much more than food for worms. I have been battling with desire from a long, long time. But now I can't ignore it anymore. I can't ignore my death anxiety.

What do?

>inb4 read bible
I am a hypocrite, a believer and a nonbeliever. A sailor named contradiction. My right leg is in first boat and my left leg is in the second boat.

>> No.16104595

>>16101655
>>16101818
>>16102501
This board doesn't need any more Mishima threads. Read in order, Jesus Christ. The guy literally picked the worst of the 4 books, the one that was rushed in order to fit Mishima's suicide schedule.

>> No.16105058

Bump

>> No.16105080

Where to start with Joyce, Foster Wallace and Pynchn?
Also, what should i have in mind when reading them and what should i read before attempting to read their respective masterpieces? (i'll read them chronologically).
Some articles or maybe books on the subject would be greatly appreciated.

>> No.16105718

Bump

>> No.16105740

>>16101655
4 books? I would make a thread for it

>> No.16106270

Where do you guys download audiobooks from?

>> No.16106306

>>16106270
librivox

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>>16077274
where do you guys go to read?
where do you guys go to meet readers?

>> No.16106471

Are there any feet shots in kat's new video?

>> No.16106731

Where do I start with kerouac?

>> No.16106887

>>16104529
Both at the same time

>>16104592
Devote yourself to something to the point that you learn its secrets and your desire to express the truth about it that only you know outweighs your desire to live for yourself as a pointless hedonist blob

>>16103388
Kierkegaard but it's so much work to read him properly that you may end up discouraging yourself from further reading

Emerson's essays or his book Representative Men

Carlyle

Coleridge

>>16102569
Feng Youlan

>>16103252
Wolfe is dense so be ready for a bigger commitment if you read him. IMHO read Tolkien in order of abstractness/"scope": Hobbit (individual adventure in world where lore is backdrop and not the main focus, also easiest to read, bite-sized and charming) -> LOTR (more like a legend or epic where the world is fully on display) -> more background myth works.

Avoid wikis summarizing and laying out the whole setting with autistic symmetry if you can. Read it the way Tolkien saw it and breathed it into being, as a world he was himself only a guest in and didn't autistically spawn from the top down ab initio.

>>16100155
No you have the modern sickness of no orientation in life and it's accelerated by being locked indoors which is why some conspiracy theory inclined people think this corona shit is manufactured or at least coopted to make people like you sink further into the hopeless ennui of the modern aimless man and worsen or activate all your dormant mental illnesses

Pick something you love and value not because it brings you immediate sensual pleasure but because it objectively matters for reasons beyond yourself and embark on a long term project of service to it. This can be anything from learning a science or a trade to reading all the major literature in a language or period that you love. Do it because you want to bring more truth into the world and not because it will have some vague career payoff down the line. Isolation stings most for people who are accustomed to living day to day, jumping from one barely effective pleasure to the next, anaesthetizing themselves to meaningless. Once the meaninglessness is bare and unavoidable, they go stir crazy. The cure is to find some real meaning.

On a more material level, stay in touch with other people and don't let weird thoughts build up within the echo chamber of your isolation. Everyone has weirdness that can build up and reach a critical mass of delusion or other mental unwellness, so don't feel ashamed or unique if you are already getting a bit stir crazy. Forgive yourself and take measures to clear up your mental fog.

>>16099758
Is it a visual novel? Make a reddit account and ask on some young adult fiction and visual novel boards and you'll probably find it. Death to reddit and all but that's more their speed than /lit/'s and it sounds like it might be some very recent, very surface-level normie fare.

>> No.16106932

>>16102569
>Are Confucius' works good for a beginner? Also a complete newfag to philosophy, if that helps any.

Ancient Chinese philosophy is hard to get into because just reading it requires decades of study for westerners and easterners have been pretty stuck in hidebound traditionalist ways of reading it, for a long time

Youlan is good like I said because it's old and venerable, I knew a Chinese girl who said it was still read in China. To be honest I advise going back to older works in general, like Creel's Chinese Thought from Confucius to Mao Tse-Tung, so you can get a sense of "mature" sinology prior to the postmodern turn. The last 70 years of scholarship has made philological and critical advances on that mature sinology, but it's also diluted by a lot of crap. So I recommend reading a variety of sources on ancient China, starting with the older magisterial ones like Creel's generation, to build a ground from which to judge more recent critical interventions.

I remember Yuk Hui's book Cosmotechnics cited several Chinese philosophers, in the first chapter or so, who were well-read in western philosophy but also trying to explore ancient Chinese philosophy in new ways. I can't remember their names right now but if you follow those threads, you will probably find some firm ground to stand on.

There are plenty of shallow readers of Chinese thought however, so always be on the lookout. I've seen too many people go around giving Ancient Chinese Thought 101 summaries of "ren" and "li" like they read them off the back of a cereal box.

>> No.16108354

Bump
Tourists post here

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Recommend me books about escapism from any area of humanities.

>> No.16109507

Books about having a lgf?
Preferably with lots of love scenes.

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Where could one find a good list/chart/whatever of Modernist novels? most of the book list i find online always rec the same stuff (Ulysses, to the lighthouse etc)

>> No.16109715

>>16077589
Try T-gel. Head and shoulders didn't work for me either. I don't need it anymore after going low carb though.

>> No.16109828

>>16077294
Therapy of special needs children, particularly really young or non-verbal ones (see applied behavioral analysis, but I warn you, it can be pretty rough stuff). Also you might find some uses in the treatment of specific types of anxiety (exposure), and in """hypnotherapy""" for food-related disorders, smoking, whatever (at least, that is how behaviorists describe it, but it's not a discussion worth having).Truth be told, animal trainers knew this shit for ages, so definitely there.

Radical behaviorism has pretty much been a dead field in research for like 60 years now.

Where it's starting to be at right now is third wave behaviorism, which (very simply) defines cognition & affect as being behaviors within the context of identity, but I don't think conditioning is a central or important part of it.

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Anyone know where to get free audiobooks other than libravox

>> No.16110136

>>16110124
sometimes piratebay or youtube but yeah I'd like to know this too

>> No.16110401

>>16093929
The bible and Agatha Christie.

>> No.16110693

>>16097462
hmm, maybe Homo Videns, by Sartori? Not sure if it's what you are looking for.

>>16100155
Don't smash your head trying to label you. Like the other anon said, we're all going through that shit, know you're not alone.
When I find myself under such stress it helps to read comfy authors. Try with the Tao Te Ching or something by R. W. Emerson or Thoreau.

>> No.16110706

>>16110124
audiobookbay

>> No.16110714

I want to write poetry so badly. But when I try to write it my grug brain stop working.

What do?

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>>16077274
Hi everyone.
I'm looking for a cool sexy name for some kind of Modesty Blaise/Dragon Lady character.
Something with silly double entendre would be perfect.
Thanks!

>> No.16111272

>>16094264
This one is great

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Why are Democrats so cringe?

>> No.16111380

>>16077300
Blue Bird

>> No.16111433

my triceps, shoulders, traps and back are depressingly small
I do ohp, tricep extensions, one arm rows and pullups/pulldowns, what else would you lads recommend

>> No.16111469

>>16111308
What has this anything to do with literature related questions?

>> No.16111866

>>16077274

Do y’all wait to finish a series before looking for discussion online? Assuming you have no one to discuss it with IRL.

I’m reading The Expanse series and want to talk about it so badly with people but I don’t want to spoil anything.

>> No.16111896

>>16077274
is east of eden worth reading? im a poor fuck and i ordered that book+ wheel of time, words of radiance and a discworld book. But now I'm running out of money. Should I cancel east of eden for now?

>> No.16112422

>>16111896
No it's great. It's a really engaging book, especially if you're not really into classic literature. Definitely worth a buy

>> No.16112470

>>16106421
>where do you guys go to read?
A park, cafe before meme virus, subway
>where do you guys go to meet readers?
Rush hour on the subway everyone is reading and often old people talk to me about what I'm reading. Cafes are great for meeting other readers but some people have trouble tuning out the noise. If you go to marxist meetups there are always a few that are extremely well read. Libraries work too.
>>16109507
I liked They Shall Inherit the Earth the relationship between the main character and his girl was very cute, and I won't spoil the ending but it's nice.
>>16111866
Yes I'd feel ashamed to talk about books I haven't finished.
>>16102560
I shill they shall Inherit the Earth a lot but it's really good leaf literature. The characters feel human, their emotions are genuine and their relationships are too. If you're looking for angst though try any generic YA, John Green writes stuff that is very teenage and similar to the feel of Car Seat Headrest.

>> No.16112697

what happens when I start using phrases like "all that is not the tao"

>> No.16112704

>>16108763
I only have one area I want to escape into right now AWOOOGA AWOOOGA

>> No.16112826

>>16112697
People think you're a shit unless it is deployed strategically. If you use it as as a retort while you're piss drunk it's hilarious. If you unironically say that in casual conversations you're autistic. Academic/philosophy concepts are acceptable for humor but if you take yourself seriously and constantly name drop concepts you have to explain to the normal person it's pretentious and annoying.

>> No.16112894

Is Houellebecq worth it?
Thinking about whatever and submission

>> No.16113065

>>16111896
no, buy it. a thousand times buy it. you’ll have a hard time putting it down. i did when i first read it. steinbeck makes good use of his characteristic rich descriptions of nature and you’re essentially thrown right into the setting when you open the first page, and it only gets better. please, don’t cancel it!

>> No.16113600

>>16113065
>>16112422
>>16112422
thenk

>> No.16113700

Are there any good books covering the Bosnian - Serbian war / the general period of the yugoslav wars? Preferably at a level of detail without becoming a textbook.

>> No.16114293

What is the longest a /lit/ thread can stay up if you only bump it the minimum number of times each 24 hours to keep it from being archived?

>> No.16114311

>>16077300
The Tragedy of the Leaves

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Is an object wet if it's underwater?

>> No.16114511

>>16112894
Absolutely, haven’t read whatever but submission is really good.

>> No.16114593

What would Nietzsche think of easily accessible internet porn?

>>16110714
What do you mean by wanting to write poetry, then? I think there should be an urge to express something (usually a feeling) before writing poetry. Do you just want to write poetry for the sake of it, or to sound cool in front of someone?
Anyway, as with many things, you can train. By that I mean you might want to read some poems, see which you like and try to express them in your words. Practice makes perfect, it's also good to try out different styles like using a little story to help out, or opposite, just express emotions, random observations, etc...
After doing this for long enough, you might feel like you have stuff to express on your own.
>>16111308
Why is Burgerland mostly so cringe is the real question.
>>16111433
You might have confused two boards. I would say this is a good basis, especially if you do different grips with the pullups/pulldowns. You might want to look for other exercises for shoulders.
Don't forget about good food and most importantly, always focus on one body part for quite long, do not switch the exercises much if you want to build muscle, otherwise you would mostly train cardio and you don't want that (plus there are better ways if you did want that).
Still, /fit/ is the place to ask.

>> No.16114704

Why do people enjoy Lord of the Rings? I never read fantasy literature, but I recently started The Fellowship of the Ring because my friend is obsessed with it. The fairy tale prose is grating to me. The exposition is clunky, the dialogue childish. The book seems so singularly obsessed with the construction of a world that it eschews any intellectual observations or genuine human emotion. I understand why a snobby pseud like myself would hate it, but what baffles me is why this book is so popular among genre fans and normies, since it's also tremendously boring -- just pages upon pages of walking and staring at mountains and singing songs. Is it just a matter of reading the series when you're younger, and being sucked into that "other world"?

>> No.16114942

I saw some witch thot on tik tok say that in earlier versions of the story of Hades kidnapping and raping persephone, she actually came consensually. Are there any such versions? I read the story in Metamorphoses, but I haven't read any Greek versions of the story.

>> No.16114974

>>16114704
Movies.