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who's this fag

>> No.16077058

You have the same mind as him.

>> No.16077059

>>16077034
Looks like Guenon

>> No.16077063
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16077063

>>16077034
Osama Bin Laden.

>> No.16077068

>>16077034
It says on the subtext, retard. That's Averroes. He is somewhat overrated in the West among other Islamic philosophers, but I suppose they were just trying to have a representation of the link between the Greeks and the Christians.

>> No.16077071

>Plato
That's Leonardo Da Vinci
Both gay

>> No.16077074

>>16077034
The guy that rehabilitated Aristotle.

>> No.16077085

>>16077071
Surprisingly homophobic, butters. Also literally gay- read Symposium.

>> No.16077095

Tokenism has gotten too far

>> No.16077096

>>16077034
the ancient translator of Aristotle, also responsible for the next 700 years of chistianity

>> No.16077117

>>16077085
I wasn’t being homophobic.
Was Averroes actually gay? Fine, but OP forgot to circle Plato

>> No.16077126

>>16077034
Diversity.

>> No.16077166

>who's this fag
Arrrrrg
I read it “who’s the fag

Would delete it all, but it’s too late

>> No.16077182
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16077182

my hero, im suprised a muslim philosopher even existed, let alone allow a statue of him to be built

>> No.16077200

Wikipedia should have chosen Taleb instead to represent Arab philosophy

>> No.16077209

>>16077182
Anon you should check out based Persian muslim philosophers Alfarabi, Avicenna, Suhrawardi and Mulla Sadra. Check out Henry Corbin also.

>> No.16077211

>>16077200
He would kill you lol

>> No.16077247

>I can name drop that means I’m well read

>> No.16077262

>I'm insecure about the books I read so I post greentexts when people mention philosophers

>> No.16077280

>>16077200
Imbecile.

>> No.16077305

>>16077071
>>16077117
>>16077166
>can't even read a thread properly
Delete yourself from life.

>> No.16077332
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16077332

Averroes was a hispano-arabian (andalusian, precisely) philosophers that wrote commentaries and disertations on Classical philosophers, chiefly Greeks. His work was particularly influential due to its geocultural proximity to the vanilla Western Mediaeval millieux; Aquinas wrote an antiaverroes perspective on Platonic (or Aristotelian, can't recall) reasoning.
And in doing so cemented the figure of Averroes as the insignia for Muslim thought - particularly the flourishing movement in Islamic Iberia - in the Western world. The man had a handful of interesting ideas, but it's all practically theology for a contemporary Westerner.
Raphael de Sanzio portrayed him in his "School of Athens" painting in the Vatican apartments, which sought to display a sort of Olympian apotheosis of human thought, that is, universal thought - ergo Averroes. >pic related

Oh and Borges wrote a wonderful short story starring him.

>> No.16077356

WRONG.

>> No.16077365

>>16077332
Averroes's search is probably one of the best three Borges's short stories.

>> No.16077400

>>16077034
Isn't there a better Islamic philosopher? I remember there being a thread talking about Averroes and pretty much everyone accepted the other guy was the more important. Anyone know?

>> No.16077404

>>16077400
the name was probably avicenna
i have no basis for comparison tho

>> No.16077405

>>16077071
>Plato was gay
>literally hasn't read the father of Western philosophy

>> No.16077414

>>16077332
>Avicenna
Oh yeah, where are the Chinese?

>> No.16077423

>>16077404
Do you know if Avicenna is as respected as Averroes though?

>> No.16077428

>>16077423
He is even more respected in the Islamic world.

>> No.16077448

>>16077428
I see, thank you.

>> No.16077462
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>>16077034
Nietzsche should be swapped with Heidegger.

>> No.16078365

>>16077400
Avicenna and Ibn Khaldun are also respected classics of islamic philosophy

>> No.16078368

>>16078365
Are you able to say at all what are some basic differences between Averroes, Avicenna and Khaldun? And which one could be considered the greatest at all?

>> No.16078387

Swap Nietzsche with me.

>> No.16078486

Da Vinci wasn't gay

>> No.16078500

>>16077034
Why are there two German niggas
Talk about overrepresentation!

>> No.16078501

>>16077034
>Aristotle followed by a bunch of literal whos
Embarrassing even by Wikipedia standards.

>> No.16078555

>confucius
>"philosophy"

>> No.16078572

>>16078500

Imagine picking two German philosophers to represent their academic culture and one of them is nietzche smhbtqia

>> No.16078587

>>16078500
Nietzsche was polish

>> No.16078602

averoes.
everyone thought he was a good guy that was held back by islam.
he couldnt understand since islam said the world was created and plato said it was eternal so he said both were true.

>> No.16078603

>>16078501
>Aristotle
Nice bait.

>> No.16078604

>>16078501
>Aristotle

>> No.16078644

>>16078501
>Aristotle
It says his name right there on the fucking image you retard.

>> No.16078673

>>16077211
with his fupa? jajajaja

>> No.16078828

>>16077117
Symposium ends with praising childbearing, both literal and spiritual, that the union between man and woman is one of the most beautiful physical things.
In Phaedrus he condemns philosophical lovers to engage in degenerate indulgence, that if they do they'll be doomed to the lowest/first heaven without Wings to ascend with, meaning they're literally one step away from Tartarus. What saved them was their still mostly philosophic lifestyle.
In Republic he says that Master and Student (philosophical lovers) should be like a father and son, that they never should break that relation with bodily pleasure.
In Laws he outright criminalizes Homofaggotry, calling it unnatural.

>> No.16079151

>>16078501
based retard (you) farmer

>> No.16079161

>>16078828
>In Laws he outright criminalizes Homofaggotry, calling it unnatural.
I 100% agree with everything you say, and I'm aware he put special emphasis on that, but he did also say "and along with any other sexual act which does not sow the seed of birth" or something along those lines. So he put an emphasis on homosexuality, he did the same for heterosexuality if they're not having children. He was right that the poet and philosopher will always be at odds.

>> No.16079355

>>16077034
Averroes

>> No.16079415

>>16077071
>Plato was gay
>t. Someone who hasn’t read Plato
Plato was pretty homophobic, he did not like gays and attributed the story of Ganymede to Cretans(?) trying to justify their gay behaviour.

>> No.16079740

>>16077126
/thread

>> No.16079805

>>16077058
You deserve a (you) anon. This board isn't well read enough to understand this joke.

>> No.16079943

>>16077182
>im suprised a muslim philosopher even existed
braindead

>> No.16080526

>>16078587
And Kant is a chinaman

>> No.16080555
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>>16080526
Nietzsche believed his ancestors were Polish,[115] at least toward the end of his life. He wore a signet ring bearing the Radwan coat of arms, traceable back to Polish nobility of medieval times[116] and the surname "Nicki" of the Polish noble (szlachta) family bearing that coat of arms.[117][118] Gotard Nietzsche, a member of the Nicki family, left Poland for Prussia. His descendants later settled in the Electorate of Saxony circa the year 1700.[119] Nietzsche wrote in 1888, "My ancestors were Polish noblemen (Nietzky); the type seems to have been well preserved despite three generations of German mothers."[120] At one point, Nietzsche becomes even more adamant about his Polish identity. "I am a pure-blooded Polish nobleman, without a single drop of bad blood, certainly not German blood."[121] On yet another occasion, Nietzsche stated, "Germany is a great nation only because its people have so much Polish blood in their veins ... I am proud of my Polish descent."[122] Nietzsche believed his name might have been Germanized, in one letter claiming, "I was taught to ascribe the origin of my blood and name to Polish noblemen who were called Niëtzky and left their home and nobleness about a hundred years ago, finally yielding to unbearable suppression: they were Protestants."

>> No.16080597

>>16080555
Yes yes but Kant is the Chinaman of Königsberg

>> No.16080620

>>16078501
based

>> No.16081204

>>16078587
saxony is in poland?
no. shut up.

>> No.16081312

>Buddha, Confucius, Averroes
yeah lets pretend those are equal to the European ones. damn i hate this political correctness bullshit

>> No.16081329

>>16077034
Literally all those philosophers are such trash but who knows who averroes is

>> No.16081335

>>16081312
Averrous is a stretch but how are The Buddha and Confucius not equal to the Europeans?

>> No.16081337

>>16081312
They are, though.

>> No.16081368

>>16081312
averroes, sure, but buddha and confucius both created two absolutely massive philosophical traditions that still continue to this day from fucking scratch, dude. you're an absolute retard if you dont think they should be included in a list of important philosophers

if you don't like that the word "philo-sophia" is used to describe anyone other than the greeks pre-christianization, sure, but then series covers more than just that, hence why buddha, confucius, kant, etc are in it.

>> No.16081472

>>16077200
Blocked

>> No.16081525

>>16081312
Averroes is actually pretty interesting, but it's a bit of a stretch to put him alongside Plato and Confucius.

>> No.16081533

Islamic philosophers were based

>> No.16081579

>>16077034
Wikipedia considers MENA Philosophy to be western not eastern.

>> No.16082020

>>16077034
The name is literally in the pic

>> No.16082043

>>16077332
good overview. though you could have gone into his ideas a bit more.

>> No.16082242

>>16078602
Huh. I guess Islam is right and Plato is wrong then, since the universe does have a beginning.

>> No.16082495

>>16081312
Yeah, too bad whiteys will get mad if you admit the truth though.

>> No.16082979

>>16077182
Literally how did you manage to type that sentence

>> No.16083271

>>16081312
Buddhism has an enormous and influential philosophical canon and the thinking of Confucius is followed by well over a billion people.

>> No.16084369

>>16077034
Berber bull Averroes, my ancestor :)