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16068039 No.16068039 [Reply] [Original]

who is better, tolstoy or chekhov?

>> No.16068045

I don't read or play games so I don't know. All I do is masturbate and watch porn.

>> No.16068046

tolstoy. next question

>> No.16068081

>>16068039
it looks like a child. Totally unattractive

>> No.16068115

>>16068039
it looks like a child. Totally attractive

>> No.16068128

>>16068039
That girl is hot, Id wish she’d Chekhov on to my Tolstoy

>> No.16068129

>>16068039
She looks miserable. I wish I could have been there to save her from the autist filming her

>> No.16068134

>>16068039
>>16068045
>>16068046
>>16068081
>>16068115
>>16068128
>>16068129
I'm going to kill myself

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>>16068039
I don’t know quite yet.

Quote dueling challenge

>> No.16068147

>>16068134
take me with you

>> No.16068158

>>16068134
Take Butters with you

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>>16068146

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>>16068134
Dubs and you die in your sleep tonight

>> No.16068176

>>16068164
That chick swears she's not a man, haha.

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>>16068176
Because I’m not

>> No.16068243

>>16068231
Yikes lol

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Cursed thread

>> No.16068252 [DELETED] 

>>16068146
>>16068231
I see no difference.
Now go and shit your panties somewhere else, you tranny. Or better yet, go and rape a dog, you degenerate.

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>>16068243
Not seeking your approval, butt-muncher.
Stay on topic

>> No.16068266

16068254
Chemov speaks like a jackoff.

>> No.16068267

>>16068254
go and kill yourself, nigger tranny.

>> No.16068351 [DELETED] 

>>16068039
>american think this fully developed woman is still a child
may God eradicate this cursed country taken by feminism.

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>>16068039
>>16068081
>>16068115
>>16068128
>>16068129
>>16068351
Doomers on suicide watch

>> No.16068391

>>16068370
>implying I'm a doomer
I don’t think so pencil neck

>> No.16068404

>>16068039
Looks like a spic. Totally unattractive.

>> No.16068417

>>16068039
Looks like a woman. Totally unattractive
no homo

>> No.16068551

Does b*tterface have the nannies jannies under his thumb? Weird.

>> No.16068571

>>16068551
Have ya read Chekov? Tolstoy?

>> No.16068578

>>16068039
Tolstoy and it's really not even close.

>> No.16068738

>>16068571
No and no lol. Are you. Janny? A nanny janny tranny. Oof, why are you using a trip code you silly willy?

>> No.16068781

>>16068039
Tolstoy is better, but his narcissism and megalomania gives way here and there when you know what to look for, you can figure out which character he wants you to hate.

Chekhov, on the other hand, seems to be one of the few true artists who was good, he shouldered the burden of providing for his family at a young age, and in the anecdotes of his life always came off to me as a kind man who did whatever work in his hands the best he knew how. I do sense that kindness in him. Tolstoy often puts on the rose colored glasses (who can forget Levin in the fields with the peasants?) while Chekhov seems to be taking off the rose colored glasses of someone who has forgotten they were wearing them, but he’s not blackpilled or a depressive in my mind. He’s almost like Shakespeare in that there is this natural disposition towards a happy, knowingly foolish cleverness and positive outlook, which is then paired with a high intelligence not unfamiliar with pain, in itself or others. That’s how Shakespeare started, writing bawdy comedies and then glorious tragedies and finally diamond-like plays in the late romances. I think they are alike in that way.

Tolstoy is more sui generis, more uncannily brilliant (those battle scenes in War and Peace!), but Chekhov does have something quite rare as well, I believe it.

>> No.16068788

I love her. She's @nudejoebiden on twitter.

>> No.16069026

>>16068039
chekhov proves that women are incapable of love.

>> No.16069653

>>16068039
there's a tomboy that looks like this at my club at university, but the resident mentally ill creature has convinced her that she is a man and now she's identifying as a man and taking hormone pills

>> No.16069716

>>16069653
The saddest thing about this trans shit is perfectly beautiful girls and even dudes taking hormones because they hate themselves it's the saddest thing to be lead to believe your body was a mistake that you have to become someone else to be loved.

>> No.16070562

>>16068039
i could kill her with a single strike

>> No.16070643

>>16069026
Elaborate

>> No.16071008

>>16070562
Doubtfully

>> No.16071905

>>16070643
No

>> No.16071924

I would say that Chekhov isn’t so self-righteous as Tolstoy, I like his decadent-romantic bent. Still, I can’t real imagine Chekhov being able to put together a literary mammoth like Anna Karenina, with 800 pages and like 20 characters

>> No.16072520

>>16069716
Lol I love myself. I read 2 books a week, do physically active hobbies, and I have good friends who care about me. Why would I hate myself just because others think I'm mentally ill? Pretty cringe and beta to care that much about other people's opinions.

>> No.16072724

Tolstoy is much more highly regarded in the West than in Russia (where Chekhov is generally considered to be the most significant Russian writer).

Westerners always think of Tolstoy and Dostoevsky as representative of Russian literature, but in Russia, they don't have quite the same pedigree (obviously still very important, but not definitively so).

I wonder why this is.

>> No.16073073

>>16072724
Could you say some more about what Russians think are their best authors or their greatest masterpieces?

What do they think of Turgenev or A Hero of Our Time?

>> No.16073095

>>16073073
I don't know. I'm not Russian. However I speak Russian, and I interact with a lot of Russians, and it's my impression that the primacy of Tolstoy in particular is a largely Western notion, and that Chekhov is specifically revered. Turgenev in particular is perceived as a Western writer, who just happens to be from Russia.

>> No.16073109

>>16072724
>Chekhov
I think it is Pushkin who is considered the most important.

>> No.16073136

>>16073073
The undisputed master of Russian literature is Pushkin. Tolstoy is extremely well regarded, Dostoevsky not so much. Lermentov is liked but his output just wasn't as significant as other authors. Anna Akhmatova is one of the best poets of the 20th century. Very few emigre authors really get much play: Nabokov in particular is nowhere near as popular in Russia as the United States (Lolita translated extremely poorly into Russian). Other anon is right that Chekhov is extremely well regarded: his short stories are considered masterpieces and plays like the Cherry Orchard maintain popularity to this day in Russia.

>> No.16073238

>>16073073
remember zizek once saying that easter euros dont like solzhenitsyn as much compared to someone like shalamov

>> No.16073246

>>16068039
Doesn't this girl have a scat video?

>> No.16073269

>>16073246
yes, it's amazing.

>> No.16073298

>>16073246
who is she

>> No.16074482

>>16073246
name please because i'm a degenerate

>> No.16074641

>>16068167
roll

>> No.16074732

>>16073246
>>16073269
link

>> No.16075292

>>16073298
>>16074482
>>16074732
fucking lol, you degenerate freaks
no she does not

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she does sell socks though

>> No.16075337

>>16075324
based. I would do the same thing if I were a woman.

>> No.16075441

>>16075324
>>16068039
>>16074732
I need that link. I want her to scat all over my face while I read her excerpts from Plato.
>>16075292
Fuck you, you don't know beauty.