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What is it called when you say something along the lines of "time is time" or say "money is money" that redundant sort of phrase?

>> No.15917196

>>15917192
Tautology

>> No.15917230

>>15917196
there’s a difference though between linguistic and logical tautology. this is a logical tautology. linguistic tautology is more like “added bonus” whereas linguistically this is just repetition

>> No.15917253

googling for an answer and found this
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/65172/is-there-a-word-to-describe-a-phrase-such-as-it-is-what-it-is/65175

which may just be the most retarded collection of people i've ever seen

>Ummmm? Your question is cluttering your question :S
>That's an "idiom" bro...
>That's just an expression that means it is what it is :P Haha

Why would you even bother responding? Were all these people having strokes at the exact same time? Not one of them even processed what the guy asked, they all just started babbling about tangential shit, while somehow also being smug about it. It's like they just saw random words in what he asked and started free associating. That's the wrong game! I didn't ask you to free associate! I asked you a specific fucking question, 40 year old man who specifically signed up for a forum to answer questions of this specific nature! This isn't the website where you browse aimlessly for questions you don't know the answers to, and then start vomiting out an unrelated stream of consciousness.

>> No.15917267

>>15917230
Would you also call that a pleonasm?

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>>15917196
Thank you fren

>> No.15917286

>>15917253
stackies are fucking losers—the entire site is full of Pet Theories made by men who are just excited to type something. the only good stackexchange is judaism and it’s because you can get in some decent fights wrt torah interpretation. math, english, and overflow are all mega garbage. full of pompous retards.

>> No.15917299

>>15917267
No.
Tautology is repetition. Pleonasm is garrulity.

>> No.15917305

>>15917267
i mean, i suppoooose but a pleonasm seems more about implication, like suggestive redundancy ie big huge giant tall building or something. a tautology is usually a restatement of the same thing in different terms which can encompass pleonasms but all tautologies are not pleonasms. (again you could say they’re technically the same but they often have diff functions in rhetoric)

>> No.15917317

>>15917305
*disclaimer this may just be an insight into the way autists parse the world and not ACTUALLY correct but this is my understanding

>> No.15917321

>>15917230
>>15917299
Logical tautology doesn't require repetition.

>> No.15917334

>>15917321
logical tautology contains no information, so who cares?

>> No.15917355

>>15917192
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epanalepsis

>> No.15917377

>>15917334
There's an entire branch of human knowledge called Mathematics devoted to the study of logical tautologies.

>> No.15917388

>>15917377
How can you hear us all the way back in the 1770s?

>> No.15917397

>>15917388
What are you trying to say?

>> No.15917399

>>15917377
I'm sure the OP gave a shit about kabbalistic newlogic and information theory.

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>>15917377
I am a mathematician and I’d rather be flayed than think about a truth table. Logicians flatter themselves by thinking math is a subfield of logic.

>> No.15917437

>>15917399
Mathematics has nothing to do with Kabbala, schizo.

>>15917415
>I am a mathematician
No, you're not.

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>>15917437
We caught a live logician on the line! He’s thrashing, teeth gnashing, he’s screaming, “I AM A BIG BOY I AM A MATH BOY!”