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15906773 No.15906773 [Reply] [Original]

What exactly does "Wagnerian" actually mean?

>> No.15906777

of, relating to, characteristic, or suggestive of Wagner or his music, stage operas, or theories

>> No.15906784

BIG

>> No.15906792

>>15906777
And what is characteristic of "Wagnerian"?

>> No.15906793

paranoid antisemitism while surrounding yourself with jews

>> No.15906816

>>15906773
fag

>> No.15906822

>>15906793
not paranoid then is it

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>>15906816
>Calling THIS, a fag

>> No.15906848

>>15906792
Loud and obnoxiously German

>> No.15906858

>>15906792

Big, long, loud, emotional. The over-riding characteristic is nimiety; i.e. pushing everything as far as it can possibly go, or further. Listen to Trisan and Isolde for the best example.

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>>15906773
On the topic, anyone else seen the 9 hour movie yet? Watched it a few years back and surprised it isn't more popular.

>considered one of the few roles deserving of Burton's talent
>various other great actors like
>John Gielgud
>Ralph Richardson
>Lawrence Olivier
>Vanessa Redgrave
>as well as multiple others
>was shot by the master cinematographer Vittorio Storaro, who did the cinematography for Apocalypse Now as well as The Conformist
>everything shot on scene, meaning filmed authentically to where it took place
>more than enough biographical content from Cosima's diary to be authentic to what actually happened as well
>exaggerates some of his eccentricities, but otherwise is a realistic and not criminalising portrayal
>considered a masterpiece by some, glowing reviews from everyone
>all originally conducted by Solti
>8 hours of content
>based

Well, /lit/?

https://youtu.be/MX_gSNQafZw?t=44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN1WLF8T_Oc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4x6OiHe3AU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HyHkQ578rI

>> No.15906897

>>15906848
>>15906858
>Loud and obnoxiously German
>nimiety
Really nothing more complex than this?

>> No.15906926

>>15906897
Nope

>> No.15906945

>>15906792
Mahlerian without the excess of sentiment

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>>15906897
"German" itself is highly complex, almost inscrutable to an American.

>> No.15907013

>>15906968
Is that from his little book on Prussia?

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>>15906883
Get back to /tv/, pleb!

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>>15907092
>the jew-dwarf has arrived
Don't you have work in Nibelheim?

>> No.15907106

>>15906897
It's a name made into a shorthand adjective , like Lovecraftian.

It's not supposed to be complex.

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>>15907103
take that back!

>> No.15907143

>>15907103
lmao

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>>15907111
Make me a sword or I'll kill you.

t. Siegfried

>> No.15907223

Why were Germanics obsessed with autistic sheltered young heroes?

>> No.15907236

>>15907223
It was a representation of Germany.

>> No.15907235

>>15906773
It means it makes men and woman coom in their pants just from listening

>> No.15907242

>>15907236
it all makes sense now.........

>> No.15907265 [DELETED] 

>>15907242
They literally have muffins and sausages for afternoon tea like lmao wtf.

Still, they were pure enough in spirit for their social to not care about how food "sounds", or "looks" like those decadent pompous Frenchmen, and rather express such enjoyment. In contrast to the French who merely steal all the luxuries and fancifitalities of other cultures by a shallow pride to make up their modern culture.

>> No.15907589

bump