The German language

[Anonymous No.15904587]

What a fucking language! The absolute precision and sonority are equalled by no other tongue in the world. German is simply the most masculine and cool European language. Once you know the rules, it starts to make a lot of sense, unlike English. The only downside about German is that some Germans pronounce their Rs like in that homosexual and disgusting ape screech known as French. I want my Rs to sound like Rs, not like fucking sickening phlegms from subhuman throats. And also they sometimes don't finish their words! Think British English (the non-rhotic dialects). But then German literature is literally GODLIKE and it's worth the price of admittance alone, so it's all forgiven! Sadly the modern German person is a burgerized pussyllanimous bugman! Their literature should be the main focus, not the unworthy social aspect. Either way, this tongue is unparalleled. The thinking man's language. Latin of the 21st century.

[Anonymous No.15904591]

you can't name a more BASED tongue

[Anonymous No.15904692]

>>15904587
>t. just finished the 4th duolingo bubble

[Anonymous No.15904725]

>>15904587
German: the master language; English alongside as the disappointing offspring.

[Anonymous No.15904740]

>>15904725
English is the niggerised bastard child with slight mental retardation.

[Anonymous No.15904880]

Old English
>A 5th grammatical case (1 more than German)
>Spell however you like
>Extra letters for common phenomes like "th"

[Anonymous No.15904920]

>the absolute precision
the empty words of someone who doesn't know anything about language and cognition.

>>15904725
>>15904740
>>15904880
>lit lacks basic education on the genealogy of world languages
why do i come here

>>15904880
the old germanic languages are very different to all modern ones to the educated eye. two obvious ones are that they do not have fully grammaticalised definiteness or fixed modifier orders.

[Anonymous No.15904926]

>>15904920
English is a mutt tranny. Germanic only in bare bones.

[Anonymous No.15904938]

>>15904920
I admit the post above yours was ashitpost and I have no clue what I'm talking about. Can you go into more depth on your last point?

[jesus No.15904953]

>>15904587
true. russian and german are most cool.

[Anonymous No.15904970]

I wanna learn Latin and German so bad lads

[Anonymous No.15905018]

>>15904587
Stop trying to force this dumb pasta.

[Anonymous No.15905031]

>>15905018
SEETHING burger

[Anonymous No.15905111]

>>15904920
English is a Germanic language you collosal prolapsed rectum

[Anonymous No.15905125]

a*gloids got their tongue cucked by the scandinavians and the germans and the french. biggest mutt language in existence

[Anonymous No.15905127]

>>15905111
OHNONONONONO

[Anonymous No.15905145]

>>15905127
Genealogy not influence, cocklover.

[Anonymous No.15905150]

>>15905145
mutt cope

[Anonymous No.15905175]

is it even possible to learn German or any other language to the point where reading it in that language provides a better grasp of the meaning than reading a translation from a highly-skilled, educated, and literate translator?

[Anonymous No.15905187]

Where do I begin with learning to read in German? All I want to do is read, I don't care about speaking. How long would it take me to fluently read Schopenhauer or Nietzsche, assuming a study plan of 1-2 hours per day?

[Anonymous No.15905192]

>>15905175
Yes. You'll notice it before you're even very good at the language.

[Anonymous No.15905194]

>>15905187
Minimum 3 years. More likely at least 5.

German for reading by Sandberg is a good textbook

[Anonymous No.15905196]

>>15905111
Modern English is just a creole of Middle English and Langue D'oïl

[Anonymous No.15905204]

>>15905175
>>15905187
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=8F87F529472E05CDAC71F2074AA72183
Use this and stick with it everyday. If you are undisciplined, best of luck.

[Anonymous No.15905207]

>>15904591
your mothers tongue on my cock

[Anonymous No.15905217]

>>15905204

thanks, king

[Anonymous No.15905224]

>>15905175
Not unless you have the luxury of dedicating your full time to it.
Think about how many ESLs can actually read adult texts (not many) then realize you have much less motivation to learn another language than they do to learn English, and they have been trained since they were children whereas you will be starting as an adult.

[Anonymous No.15905237]

>>15905207
I too remember high school jokes.

[Anonymous No.15905270]

>>15905224
I started learning English at age 12 but didn't really get into serious literalture until I was 20. Now I'm tackling all the big names. It can be done if you're into literature. The average native English speaker can't read Finnegans Wake either.

[Anonymous No.15905277]

>>15905270
>The average native English speaker
they also don't know their own grammar kek

[Anonymous No.15905279]

>>15905224
>Think about how many ESLs can actually read adult texts (not many)
There are more ESLs that can do that, than actual EPLs.

[Anonymous No.15905283]

>>15905277
ARGGGGGGGGGHHHH

[Anonymous No.15905286]

>>15905194
Damn, it doesn't seem worth it to dedicate that much spare time. Would an effective mnemonic system speed up the process?

[Anonymous No.15905316]

>>15905286
there's no crutch. You simply have to be dedicated.

[Anonymous No.15905331]

>>15905237
ok boomer

[Anonymous No.15905334]

>>15905194
>Three years to learn a language
Maybe if you spend thirty minutes every day. You can easily do it in under a year if you study for two to three hours a day.

[Anonymous No.15905337]

>>15905331
ok zoomer

[Anonymous No.15905341]

>>15905337
i am not a zoomer

[Anonymous No.15905348]

>>15905316
3 - 5 years is a long time for somebody who only wants to read. I think you can do it far quicker. A normal, mass market book for the adult market should be readable within one year of daily 1-2 hours of study. The jump from that to philosophers isn't that big. The difficulty at that point isn't the language, but the concepts of the philosophy.

[Anonymous No.15905355]

>>15905341
you act like one

[Anonymous No.15905357]

>>15905286
If you know your own tongue's grammar and how inflected languages work, like Latin or Russian, it won't take that long, unless you are starting from scratch.

[Anonymous No.15905362]

>>15905348
if your focus is reading, read a book called German for Reading. Theres no point in speaking it anyway, modern Germans are bugmen like the OP said.

[Anonymous No.15905365]

>>15905348
I have read English translations of most German philosophers. Not planning on reading Hegel/Heidegger in German.

[Anonymous No.15905387]

>>15905355
sorry i am not into postmodernism

[Anonymous No.15905440]

>>15905362
There's plenty point in speaking German. It is a beautiful language and offers a lot of stuff to be enjoyed.
Start this video and only listen to the German audio. Would you have guessed that it's about a bloody battle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9zkf_vl7g

[Anonymous No.15905479]

>>15905440
>It is a beautiful language
Do Germoid subhumans really?
It's not as bad as English, French or Dutch but it still sounds absolutely disgusting
>Would you have guessed that it's about a bloody battle
Almost, I thought it was the sounds of a woman fighting her monthly bloody battle

[Anonymous No.15905499]

>>15905387
typical zoomer

[Anonymous No.15905516]

>>15905479
Oh, you don't like it? Then enjoy this German classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSy2DcATYUo

Translation:
One, two, police
Three, four, grenadier
Five, six, old hag
Seven, eight, good night

Repeat 3 more times.


Yes, yes, yes. What's up? What is this?
Yes, yes, yes. What's up? What's this?
Yes, yes, yes. What's up? What's this?
Yes, yes, yes. What's up? What's this?
Yes, yes, yes. What's up?
Yes, yes, yes. What is this?
Yes, yes, yes. What's up?
Yes, yes, yes. What's up? What's this?

Truly the language of thinkers and culture!

[Anonymous No.15905700]

>>15905150
>The West Germanic languages include the three most widely spoken Germanic languages: English with around 360–400 million native speakers; German, with over 100 million native speakers; and Dutch, with 24 million native speakers.
Seethe

[Anonymous No.15905730]

>>15905700
creole cope

[Anonymous No.15906049]

>>15905194
Nonsense. You have to really hate what you're doing for it to take that long.
>>15905365
You really ought to

[Anonymous No.15906477]

>>15904587
Fun fact: you can't actually read Kant if you know just German, he wrote in a Latin/German mix using German words but Latin grammar. Nobody really knows why the hell he did it.

[Anonymous No.15906501]

>>15906477
To filter out the plebs.

[Anonymous No.15906533]

>>15906501
basado

[Anonymous No.15906551]

>>15906477
>, he wrote in a Latin/German mix using German words but Latin grammar.
are you making shit up

[Anonymous No.15906554]

>>15905516
>He doesn't know the song he posted is italians
kek

[Anonymous No.15906556]

>The absolute precision and sonority
>The only downside about German is that some Germans pronounce their Rs like in that homosexual and disgusting ape screech known as French

Sounds like you really want to speak Swedish

[Anonymous No.15906562]

>>15906551
>2) Sentence structure. Kant himself wrote the sentences in Latin grammar taking the overall structure. That means if you want to fully and correctly understand the German text you will have to learn both German language and basic Latin grammar. To make it even more complicated, the subsets of the sentences are in (relatively old) German grammar and vocabulary. This is what makes it so hard to translate and/or understand it.
https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/22237/should-i-learn-german-to-read-kants-critique-of-pure-reason-in-german

[Anonymous No.15906566]

>>15906556
I hate that faggot R. It has contaminated Hebrew as well.

[Anonymous No.15906578]

>>15906562
>Kant himself wrote the sentences in Latin grammar taking the overall structure
....I just don't understand why anyone would do such a thing

[Anonymous No.15906589]

>>15906566
Swedish has the precision of German without the rolling R, except for Scanian but they're closeted Danes anyhow

[Anonymous No.15906605]

Don't make me post the graph again

[Anonymous No.15906627]

>>15906605
Literally who gives a shit about information density other than bugmen and nerds. Ebonics sounds like retarded cavemen speaking but sure, embrace the niggers.

[Anonymous No.15906635]

>>15906627
Name one (1) thing that isn't information.

[Anonymous No.15906641]

>>15906635
The physical world.

[Anonymous No.15906643]

>>15906049
>t. Monolingual angl*id

[Anonymous No.15906650]

>>15906641
>The physical world.
Which can only be apprehended from within language. Try again.

[Anonymous No.15906669]

>>15906605
>information density
Germans just max out infomation by adding infinite words

[Anonymous No.15906706]

>>15906650
Not quite. A thing is a thing, not what is said of that thing.

[Anonymous No.15906766]

>>15906706
Things are mediated by signs. We never have access to the thing in itself.

[Anonymous No.15907069]

>>15906643
Il n'y a pas beaucoup des raisons pour le fait qu'on ne peut comprendre une langue apres une ou deux ans de l'etude. Il faut que vous n'apprendre pas avec une bonne volonte, si vous avez besoin de tant de temps.

[Anonymous No.15907131]

>>15904587
Agreed German is a beautiful language like arabic that is like language of Quran and Allah inshallah. Alhamdulillah that Germany doing good in becoming muslim country

[Anonymous No.15907943]

>>15904587
>German is simply the most masculine and cool European language.
Isn't it strange that the country with the most masculine European language has a disproportionately high amount of Te users Horia?

[Anonymous No.15907969]

>>15907943
users of what?

[Anonymous No.15908044]

>>15907969
extraverted thinking, ie. what Horia dubs 'feminine thinking'

[Anonymous No.15908113]

>>15904587
I think Icelandic is the most based language of europe. I like the effort icelandic people put into preserving their language and stop it's bastardization and colonization, specially by english.
Also, if you learn it you win acces to very old literature. Also, the pronunciation is very pretty, and has those Rs you like OP

[Anonymous No.15908125]

>>15905127
>posts a vocabulary influence chart
>not a gramatical structure influence

Though it is true english is the most decreased germanic language in terms of their syntaxis

[Anonymous No.15908137]

>>15908113
>I like the effort icelandic people put into preserving their language and stop it's bastardization and colonization, specially by english.
Sounds giga based
>Also, the pronunciation is very pretty, and has those Rs you like OP
alveolar trill?

[Anonymous No.15909286]

>>15906477
Any uni version I've come across has been very readable to even those that don't know any latin.
t.was born and raised in germany and read it both for school as well as personal study

[Anonymous No.15909343]

>>15906766
Uh, yes we do. Nigga look around.

[Anonymous No.15909469]

>>15906669
nice reddit meme

[Anonymous No.15909589]

>>15905286
>to dedicate that much spare time
Do not do it in your spare time. Paint your whole life with it. Apply it to things that you believe to be unrelated to the study.

[Anonymous No.15909637]

>>15906589
To be clear, you are referencing a very solid R like is present in Texas German?

[Anonymous No.15909679]

I'm like A2 fluent (been taking courses at uni.) It has a lot of grammar rules.

[Anonymous No.15909787]

Faden-Thema:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NPra7ZRJ1s

[Anonymous No.15909997]

>>15909787
>dieser Dateiname
Geh zurück zu r/funnymemes

[Anonymous No.15910287]

>>15909997
Dreh dich um und geh einfach fort. Ich bleib hier immer noch.

[Anonymous No.15910598]

Actually, in the Belcean sense German is quite feminine. In what ways do you find it to be a masculine tongue?

[Anonymous No.15910646]

I hate German zoomers. Even worse than the American ones

[Anonymous No.15910692]

>>15905334
People learn languages for 3-4 years in university and some of them still don’t come out completely fluent. That’s with a disciplinary structure which forces them to learn it full time, and to speak it with other human beings. The idea that a NEET incel sitting at home with limited human contact — nevermind contact with speakers of the target language — and a textbook could attain fluency in a single year is laughable. It might be possible for someone with genius-level linguistic IQ, but not for the average person.

[Anonymous No.15911229]

>>15908113
Haltu kjafti kolamola rusl. Ég á vin sem heitir Stéfan, vonandi það kemur þér vel á að fá að kynnast honum.

[Anonymous No.15911230]

>>15910692
There are some important things to note in regard to your post. First, different people have differing levels of aptitude for acquiring new languages. This means that the amount of hours different people put into studying shouldn't be compared strictly, because some may be more apt than others. Second, there are differing levels of commitment to learning languages. It's common for children to study, say, Spanish in high school, yet come out of it not being able to order food. Commitment to the language is important because it will have a direct impact on information retention.

[Anonymous No.15911300]

>>15911230
You're simply not going to attain fluency in a single year if you don't immerse yourself into the language (eg. by moving to somewhere it is spoken) and train fastidiously every day.

[Anonymous No.15911451]

Honestly fluency is a bad standard for reading philosophy. A close reading is meant to be slow, and the idea isn't that you can read the text like a native would but that you can think through it like its author did. The more fluent the better but the threshold to actually start reading Nietzsche is relatively low, it's not like you need to work a certain x amount of time to gain the know-how that would magically unlock his thought. Native Germans misunderstand Nietzsche all the time.

[Anonymous No.15911784]

>>15910692
Learning languages at a classroom is very inefficient. Grammar doesn't actually translate directly to language understanding, otherwise natural language processing would be trivial instead of an open research area.
You learn a language by consuming it, reading and listening.

[Anonymous No.15911807]

>>15911784
>You learn a language by consuming it, reading and listening.
You won't become fluent like that. You have to talk and write.

[Anonymous No.15912130]

>>15911807
I mumble stuff to myself all day long so I have to construct phraseology to fill gaps in how I know to describe something. If I get stuck and have any interest in the topic then I will reference a few words and continue my day. I pirate complete phrases from film or music for word combinations that give me difficulty. This is the next best thing to talking to someone in the target language and teaches me to be able to discuss things that interest me for when I have the opportunity in real life.

[Anonymous No.15912562]

>>15904587
https://faculty.georgetown.edu/jod/texts/twain.german.html
Huns btfo

[Anonymous No.15912709]

>>15911784
That depends, Japanese courses are notoriously easy in university, partly because they don't want to dissuade weebs from dropping it a few months in. If you're talking about FSI classes where the student to teacher ratio is 6:1 and there's vigorous back and forth between the teacher and students, then I have to disagree.

[Anonymous No.15912763]

>>15904926
German has tranny artikles

[Anonymous No.15912778]

>>15905127
Based Latin chad are on it again.

[Anonymous No.15912781]

>>15905175
I can read harry potter in german now and notice hitlers speeches are way fucking better. I also learned a out how fucked germany was from ww1 and the depression leading up.

[Anonymous No.15912789]

>>15905204
I'm comending myself to ya.

[Anonymous No.15914061]

>>15912130
>I mumble stuff to myself all day long
cringe af desu. you probably look like a schizoweeb muttering "n-nani?!" to yourself over and over again