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How literate are you? Can you pass an 1870s literacy test?

>> No.15895969
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>> No.15895991

>>15895867
why do idiots always half-ass their hoax jobs? they could have at least tried to make this look like a 19th century document

>> No.15895994

>>15895969
>he actually failed 20 and 21

I'm not even going to read the rest. You're obviously a nigger.

>> No.15896020

>draw a line around
That doesn't make sense. Do they mean circle? Lines can't be round.

>draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence?
is this a trick question? I guess "drawing a line around" number 1. in the beginning is the answer but "or letter" implies I can draw a circle around any of the letters within the sentence and the question should be correct. There's no indication that the "number or letter" represents "this sentence."

nice test, didn't realize 1870s was a decade full of retards

>> No.15896045

>Draw five circles that one common inter-locking part.
yeah I don't think the test maker passes.

>> No.15896054

>>15895867
they should do tests like this for voting today desu

>> No.15896073

>>15896020
can't tell if trolling

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>>15895994
fukin KEK

>> No.15896147

>>15895969
I think you failed number 6

>> No.15896168

>>15896020
Imagine being illiterate

>> No.15896177

>>15896147
It says to draw three circles in the allotted space, with at least one of the circles being inside one, but no further requirements are specified. It's correct.

>> No.15896178

imagine being so afraid of black people voting that you had to make a test with questions that could be potentially interpreted in multiple ways so that you can reasonably make a case to fail anyone who takes it

>> No.15896190

>>15896147
It depends on how you interpret "one inside the other"
Is it one (and only one) inside the other?
Or is it (each) one inside the other?

>> No.15896232

>>15895867
They need to bring these back and staple them to ballots.

>> No.15896235

>>15895867
Almost all of these have multiple correct answers. The author of this test was either a troll or just beyond retarded

>> No.15896240

>>15896177
>with at least one of the circles being inside one

There's no "at least" anywhere, retard. Draw three circles, ONE inside (engulfed by) the other

>> No.15896248

>>15896235
the author of the test was a white man who wanted to restrict the voting rights of black people because he was afraid
so a little of the former and a lot of the latter

>> No.15896266

>>15896190
If they'd have wanted you to put each inside one another they'd have specified.

>> No.15896272

>>15896235
Wrong. They all have one correct answer and those who cannot understand this lack reading comprehension.

>> No.15896277

>>15896272
take the test and I will make plenty of arguments that you’ve gotten a few of them wrong

>> No.15896280

>>15896266
No they would not have.
The test is meant to have multiple correct answers.

>> No.15896284

>>15896178
they ought to make a test like this, except it stops women from voting

>> No.15896296

>>15896240
There is no "at least" but one has to draw at least one circle inside another to satisfy the given task.

>> No.15896297

>>15896277
Why can't you give an example here and now of the multiple possible answers to even one part?

>> No.15896306

>>15896296
Yes, you draw one circle inside the other. Not two. One (1).

>> No.15896313

>>15896297
That’s not how this works. Someone takes the test, someone else administers it. The person who administers it can make claims over what is right and wrong. You don’t get to get your way out of this argument by avoiding the way in which it was used.

>> No.15896316

>>15896306
You can draw two and it will not contradict the requirements.

>> No.15896327

I don't need to. My grandfather was an American citizen with the right to vote.

>> No.15896335

>>15895969
Your first answer is incorrect, "1." is not part of the sentence.
9 is incorrect. Draw a line, not two.
For 13, 20 is not more than 20 and is less than 30.
The answer for 20 is sdrawrof, pay attention to your commas.
21, write vote, backwards and upside down.

>> No.15896348

>>15896297
Not him, but if you can't see how there can be multiple interpretations I fear for your literacy and ability to read between the lines.
Some examples:
>27: Write right from the left to the right as you see it spelled here.
This can be interpreted as:
Write "right from the left to the right as you see it spelled here."
Write "right from the left to the right" as you see it spelled here.
Write "right" from the left to the right as you see it spelled here.
Write right (correctly) "from the left to the right as you see it spelled here."
etc.
>26. In the third ssquare below, write the second letter of the fourth word.
The fourth word (of the line)?
The fourth word on the test paper?
"The fourth word?"
"the second latter of the fourth word"?
>24: Print a word that looks the same whether it is printed forwards or backwards.
As in looking the same when mirrored? or when putting the letters in the opposite order?
Same logic for 21. Is the "correct order" where you can read "vote" when looking at it upside down? Or is the correct order asking that it would be read as "vote" when mirrored, i.e. projecting back across the X-axis?

>> No.15896350

>>15896277
You made the claim that they have multiple correct answers. Provide these multiple correct answers and I will tell you how they are all incorrect.

>> No.15896357

>>15896248
>who wanted to restrict the voting rights of black people because he was afraid
idk i'd be afraid of them burning down my civilization a few hundred years later too

>> No.15896361

>>15896235
>>15896280
Found the illiterate.

>> No.15896368

>>15895969
>>15896020
>these are your fellow posters

>> No.15896369

>>15896335
You're being far too critical. They wouldn't have been like this, you fucking retard.

Stupidest post I've ever seen.

>> No.15896379

>>15896369
He's right though

>> No.15896381

>>15896369
you don’t think a bunch of white dudes encountering a black guy trying to vote in the jim crow era wouldn’t have been this critical?

>> No.15896394

>>15896381
It's honestly out of the question. You're out of touch with that time period. Many slaveowners even dined and socialized with their slaves.

>>15896379
Stop it.

>> No.15896409

>>15896348
>This can be interpreted as:
>Write "right from the left to the right as you see it spelled here."
>Write "right from the left to the right" as you see it spelled here.
>Write "right" from the left to the right as you see it spelled here.
>Write right (correctly) "from the left to the right as you see it spelled here."
Only by idiots who read into things and think themselves more intelligent than they are.
>The fourth word (of the line)?
>The fourth word on the test paper?
>"The fourth word?"
>"the second latter of the fourth word"?
Again, you are an actual idiot and reading into things that aren't there.
>As in looking the same when mirrored? or when putting the letters in the opposite order?
As in a word that looks the same whether it is printed forwards or backwards.
>Same logic for 21. Is the "correct order" where you can read "vote" when looking at it upside down? Or is the correct order asking that it would be read as "vote" when mirrored, i.e. projecting back across the X-axis?
Turn the paper upside down, write etov. Simple. Nothing confusing about it.

>> No.15896421

>>15896369
I'm correct. I didn't get any of these wrong except for the circle one myself. It's a literacy test, not an art project. No room for interpretation, just do what is directly asked.

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>>15896409
>he didn't even give an answer for half of them
oh no no no no no no no

>> No.15896427

>>15895867
>Draw five circles that one common inter-locking part.
at least proof read your shit before pretending it is from a different century

>> No.15896435

>>15896394
what the fuck kind of shitty and racist history teacher did you have

>> No.15896437

>>15896424
>tries to interpret direct questions

>> No.15896440

>>15896437
>still no answer
Please answer the four questions, please. At least you managed to answer the fourth one correctly.

>> No.15896455

>>15895991

Because otherwise they'd have to admit that the poll exams were simple and black ""people"" are literally retarded.

>> No.15896461

>>15896440
I've answered them, you're actually illiterate. There is no interpretation to take place. They are direct questions. You're not meant to try and gauge the symbolism like you're analyzing fucking Kafka, you fucking smoothbrain.

>> No.15896466

>>15896409
Yeah, you're a nigger, alright.

>> No.15896471

>>15896248
the author of this test hadn't been born yet, because it's a modern reimagining, not something based on first-hand documents whatsoever.

>> No.15896472

>>15896461
You literally have not answered them. What would you write?

>> No.15896478

>>15896461
Answer them, you brainlet coward.

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>> No.15896520

>>15896472
>spoonfeed me the answers
Fine, shit-for-brains.
The correct answer for question 27, is right.
The correct answer for question 26, it is the second letter of the fourth word of the question at hand.
I've already stated the other ones, and have addressed others in this >>15896335 post. English isn't even my 1st or 2nd language and I can understand it better than you morons. Totally pathetic.

>> No.15896532

>>15896508
Historical revisionists BTFO

>> No.15896544

>>15896508
It was never claimed to be a direct scan.

>> No.15896559

>>15896544
It shouldn't be claimed to be anything because it was likely made a few years ago lmfao

>> No.15896572

>>15896559
Saw this in like 7th grade or some shit it's not that new.

>> No.15896592

>>15896520
>The correct answer for question 26, it is the second letter of the fourth word of the question at hand.
instantly failed
>English isn't even my 1st or 2nd language and I can understand it better than you morons. Totally pathetic.
that much is obvious.

>> No.15896606

>>15896592
t. angry illiterate

>> No.15896617

>>15896606
yes that's what I implied with the second quote. he still got it wrong, however.

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how'd I do fuckers?

>> No.15896639

>>15896617
I'm calling YOU a fucking illiterate, newfag. Can't even bother learning how to post, let alone read. Disgusting.

>> No.15896646

>>15896618
Badly.

>> No.15896647

>>15896639
>I'm calling YOU a fucking illiterate, newfag
i admited that in the two previous posts.
how mad are you that you can't even read simple posts?

>> No.15896653

>>15896646
why's that?

>> No.15896657

>>15896409
Congratulations on entirely missing the point, retard.
Do you know anything about the history of these tests? It's not about what a reasonable, standard interpretation would be. They just need any reason to fail someone's test that goes beyond them being visibly a nigger.

>> No.15896669

>>15896657
>some faggot said this was to trick niggers and I can't pass the test so it must be true
Spotted the illiterate.

>> No.15896685

>>15896653
Just at first glance, your answers for 1, 7, 10, 12, and 20 were incorrect.

>> No.15896686

>>15896669
>Manages not to completely miss the point not just once, but twice
Please tell me you are trolling.
There is clearly a most reasonable answer for all of these questions. Anyone who gives more than 5 seconds of thought to each question should find them.
But these questions are vague for a reason.
You need to be able to turn away niggers who have all correct answers. So you come up with one of the autistic examples I created, and say they got the question wrong.
This really is not that fucking hard to understand.

>> No.15896700

>>15896647
You're posting actual incoherent gibberish.

>> No.15896714

>>15896686
>But these questions are vague
They are not vague. They are very specific, with no room for interpretation if you properly understand the English language.

>> No.15896728

>>15896700
get away from the computer for a bit and take a breather, loon.

>> No.15896731

>>15896685
10 is obvious, but what's wrong with 1 & 7? Also how are you supposed to solve 20?

On top of that I only just noticed the "one wrong answer denotes failure" thing. (Maybe because I am illiterate)
Jesus christ, to imagine people were withheld their right to vote because of this shit...

>> No.15896757

>>15896714
No they are not. Read 27 again and please think for more than 5 seconds. I know, thinking is hard, but please stay with me.
> 27: Write right from the left to the right as you see it spelled here.
There is one reasonable answer. "right".
However, there are many other autistic interpretations you could make, and you can absolutely argue them.
If you want to be specific and have no room for interpretation, you would write this question as follows:
> 27: Write "right" from the left to the right as you see it spelled here.
Maybe nuances are hard for you to understand, but this is now a question that has no room for interpretation, as opposed to its original phrasing.

>> No.15896759

>>15896572
Jewish tricks are older than civilization.

>> No.15896773

>>15896731
>imagine people were withheld their right to vote because of this shit
Good. They didn't deserve to have the vote and these should be stuck to every single ballot.
"1." is not part of the sentence.
Draw, a small cross. You maybe have a slight chance at having passed this one, but I wouldn't count it.
Write the word "forwards" backwards, pay attention to commas.

>> No.15896787

>>15896757
You are not asked for interpretations. You are the prime example of the Dunning-Kruger phenomenon at work. It is not nuanced, you're moron trying to posture as someone more intelligent than he is.

>> No.15896796

No one has posted the correct answer for 1. yet.

>> No.15896805

>>15896796
Don't post it. They need to figure it out on their own.

>> No.15896825

>>15896787
I cannot believe someone can be so unable to understand such a simple concept.
Please try your best to understand these three statements.
>People are NOT supposed to write anything other than "right". This is obvious.
>The question is written such that anybody with an IQ above room-temperature would write "right".
>The other autistic interpretations are NOT meant to be used as a test answer, but rather, to create a reason to turn away someone who should not hold any control over the government, i.e. a nigger

>> No.15896833

>>15896773
I'm proud to live in a country where every citizen is guaranteed his inherent right to vote.

I mean I would bet that 95% of the general populace couldn't ace this test in 10 minutes. Think of the elderly for example...

In the end this test is just a neat historical example, showing that the people who designed this test wanted to keep black people from voting.

>> No.15896838

>>15896787
So this is the power of the autistic mind...

>> No.15896839

>>15896054
Absolutely brilliant idea that would improve society significantly.

>> No.15896841

>>15896825
>The other autistic interpretations are NOT meant to be used as a test answer, but rather, to create a reason to turn away someone who should not hold any control over the government, i.e. a nigger
This was made up by some faggot after the fact.

>> No.15896851

you retards realize there's an actual verified answer key from 1964, correct?
>>15896685
He did in fact get 1. right.

>> No.15896865

>>15896841
And so instead of actually understanding what was done historically, you'd rather dig your heels in despite knowing you're wrong. I truly regret wasting my time with you.

>> No.15896884

>>15896833
>I'm proud to live in a country where every citizen is guaranteed his inherent right to vote.
My dad took a picture of me at ballots my first time because he was proud. Some first generation indian migrant faggot accosted him and told him to delete the picture even though nothing was in it but me. I've never voted since and will never vote again nor do I believe in the right to vote.

>> No.15896890
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This test is absurd. We ought to just prevent people who are black, or women, from voting.

>> No.15896894

>>15896865
Victors write the history retard. They can make up whatever motivations they want when their enemies aren't there to defend themselves.

>> No.15896910

>>15896851
>you retards realize there's an actual verified answer key from 1964, correct?
Incorrect. Provide it. You can't because it doesn't exist. The internet is littered with different answer keys for this, each one of them just being different morons who posted their answers online.

>> No.15896936

>>15896520
I’m not an anon you’re replying to but I would like to inform you that you’re overusing commas.

>> No.15896945

>>15896936
I'm using them properly. The Oxford comma is accepted as well.

>> No.15896971

>>15896618
>Making an X instead of a cross
Fail.

>> No.15896994

>>15896971
"A cross is a geometrical figure consisting of two intersecting lines or bars, usually perpendicular to each other. "

>> No.15897055

>>15895969
Are you retarded

>> No.15897086

Thankfully I'm a white, educated man and so wouldn't need to take one of these tests.

>> No.15897136

>>15895969
>the last letter of the first word beginning with L

this should be A cause the first word is "Louisiana"

>> No.15897295

>>15896890
based

>> No.15897309

>>15896890
this desu, I don't understand all the pussyfooting around just being racist or sexist. Honesty is the best policy, I learned that when I was a kid.

>> No.15897328

>>15895867
op is a retard, just google the first question and you will realize this test is propaganda in state school systems

>> No.15897345

>>15897328
http://www.odonnellsclassroom.com/homework/PDF/Key%20for%20literacy%20test.pdf

>> No.15897502
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Completely ACED it suckers

>> No.15897569

>>15897502
26 is wrong
The line in 28. has multiple spots where it is straight, not just at the bisection.
23 isn't a square
20 is just plain up wrong

>> No.15897660

>>15897502
>20 is just plain up wrong
Wrong. Spell backwards(comma) forwards.

>> No.15897669

>>15897660
was meant for >>15897569

>> No.15897737

>>15896348
holy shit are you being willfully dense? this is like asking someone to say the alphabet and they reply "the alphabet". are you being cheeky? the questions are clear. also show me historical examples where someone failed a nigger for outlandish reasons like this.

>> No.15897780

>>15897502
>29
you know what "every other word" means, right? also you know what capitalization is, right?

>> No.15898130

>>15897669
sorry man you just failed and for being such a miserable retard you're not allowed to vote

>> No.15898143

>itt many attempts at rewriting history to pretend that voter disenfranchisement didn’t happen

>> No.15898166

>>15898143
>implying history isn't just flat out made up by those who have an agenda
Fun fact, any "history" that covers the actions of those who are considered to be "our enemies" or "on the wrong side of history" is more than likely completely fallacious.

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>>15897569
Okay fixed.

And nope, 26 is correct. It never specified "in this line" or "in this sentence" it simply says the fourth WORD which is Louisiana

How is 20 wrong? it says spell backwards, forwards.
In other words spell forwards backwards, which is what I did.

>>15897780
Is every other word not every second word? what is it then? Also I specifically capitalized every letter in the word so no one would complain that I didn't "capitalize" it, technically it's capitalized this way too so I'm not wrong.

>> No.15898256

>>15896316
You're wrong. I hope you don't try to seem smart in front of people, anon.

>> No.15898357

Huh. So people are just going to deny the existence of voter suppression tactics and call the supposed existence of literacy tests Jewish tricks. Someone ITT is also pushing the "kind slave master" routine and many textbooks in the south called Slaves "people seeking employment". We're really going to have to have another stretch of violence to sort this all out, aren't we?

>> No.15898376

>>15898357
>We're really going to have to have another stretch of violence to sort this all out, aren't we?
You wouldn't even lift a finger to wipe your own ass you snarky little faggot.

>> No.15898435

>>15898376
first against the wall

>> No.15898472

>>15898435
First to press you up against the wall and fuck you up the ass you fucking pussy lmao

>> No.15898483

>>15898376
You've never won before and now your position is even less popular. Good luck

>> No.15898505

>>15898483
>sees life as a popularity contest
Checks out. Eternal high school mentality.

>> No.15898581

>>15898219

Each question is self contained. These aren't trick questions, they're signs of reader comprehension.

The answer to 26 was Q, unless you want to be a smart ass and count "twenty-six", which would get you sent home with a note recommending a stern ass whooping.

"Spell backwards, forwards." is not asking for you to spell forwards backwards. I hope I don't need to explain that.

I'm pretty sure 30 was asking you to essentially draw a flower, but I liked your solution.

>> No.15898620

>>15897502

Wait did I get megatrolled? How did you fuck up question #9, #10, and #11 so badly?

>> No.15899440

q. 28 proves the exam writer didn't understand calculus. anything you draw will be C2
q. 10 doesn't specify any ordering or selection of words-- unanswerable

>> No.15899456

and "line" is used in contradictory senses (curve, etc, segment, etc)

>> No.15901400

>>15895969
I think you got 6 wrong. It’s supposed to be one circle inside another circle, with the third off to the side

>>15896235
They just gave them to black people who would fail no matter what on a technicality
Though, if you don’t have a 5th grade education you shouldn’t vote

>> No.15901440

>>15895867
I think this test fails literacy. What's with all the extra commas?

>> No.15901535

>>15896020
just draw a square?

>> No.15901552

it's fake retards
>>>/sci/11914897

>> No.15901553

>>15896409
if you think finding multiple conclusions to an answer makes you an idiot you might be brain dead

>> No.15901560

>>15896471
but it literally is based on first hand documents?

>> No.15901566

>>15901553
If you think specific tasks are interpretable you're definitely brain dead.

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>>15895867
Amerilard Math! Awesome.

>> No.15901590

>>15896757
the answer is
“Right from the left to the right”
how did you get Right, you literally just ignore the rest of the question?

>> No.15901612

>>15898166
why even bother debating when retards can just decide that nothing bad every happened before

>> No.15901618

>>15901566
the way you interpreted it was retarded you literally ignored the rest of the question

>> No.15901625

>>15901618
Yeah I actually tend to ignore retards. I'll take the (You)s though.

>> No.15901629

>>15901625
no like you fundamentally don’t understand what the rest was asking

>> No.15901636

>>15896313
>there aren't objective answers to a test
>pretending you didn't try to trap that anon by framing the question to fit your agenda
>acting like he's the one that's bending logic

>> No.15901674

>>15901629
>no like I don't need to like actually like literally like format my like sentences properly cuz like i'm like fundamentally like illiterate tho?

>> No.15901701

>>15901674
explain how the answer is “right”

>> No.15901720

>>15901701
>explain how the correct answer to a plain and direct question is correct

>> No.15901782

>>15901720
i can literally explain it right now
> 27: Write right from the left to the right as you see it spelled here.
Write “Right from the left to the right”
to the right doesn’t make sense as a requirement, it doesn’t specify to the right of what, on the right would be the proper usage so we can assume that it isn’t a command and is part of the sentence we are writing
>as you see it spelled here
you could argue that the author intended you to write “right from the left to the right as you see it spelled here” but it seems more likely that it’s an instruction

>> No.15901790

>>15901782
so
>“Right from the left to the right”
is the correct answer and the fact that you think it’s “right” unironically makes me believe in these tests

>> No.15901801

>>15901782
>>15901790
You're incorrect and this is just sad autistic cope.

>> No.15901816

>>15901801
retard

>> No.15901826

>>15901816
mad

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>>15895867
handwriting with mouse is a bitch

>> No.15903163

Ambiguities:
>1 Draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence
It's pretty meta asking for the numbering. Any pedant can say that the SENTENCE "Draw a line ..." doesn't have a number, but does have many letters. Why not at least say "the number of this line" and get rid of two of the obvious ambiguities? It would still be meta in that case, but better.
>2-5
these change the terminology of "sentence" to the synonymous "line" and intermix it with directions to draw various lines. Again, completely unnecessary ambiguities and changes in terminology. This includes another change from "draw a line around" to "circle" ... are these instructions not identical? Do you fail the test if the points on your circle are not equidistant from its centre, and therefore not circular?
>6
Adds in another variation: It is the only line that gives redundant, explanatory, parenthetical information "(engulfed by)" when "one inside the other" is identically descriptive. Why be unnecessarily verbose here, and offer no further clarity for other ambiguities?
>7
Another anon pointed out that a cross has intersecting, bisecting, perpendicular lines. Many people know "X" as a cross, though it doesn't match that criteria. If the lines were perpendicular, it would look like a multiplication sign rather than an "X". So this could be a failure on a technicality.
>10. ... last letter of the first word beginning with "L"
Unlike other questions which specify "in this line/sentence/below", this gives no clarity. My first reaction was "last" in the sentence, but then also thought it might be "Louisiana" which, emphatically, is the first word beginning with "L" on the test. This would agree with the meta take on 1.
>11
This question makes me angry like no other. The DIGITS necessary to compose the number 1 million are 1 followed by six 0s. 1 is a number, so is 10, so is 10....0. That is to say you could cross out all the digits (i.e. the number 10...0). But my first thought was that I needed to cross out the digits necessary TO make 1 million (i.e. enough 0s to leave exactly 6 after the 1), although it could be argued that 000...0 is not *a* number.
>20
"backwards" and "sdrawrof" are equally valid answers to this poorly stated question which could have been entirely cleared up with the use of quotation marks.
>26
Again, no clarity whatsoever is given as to whether this relates to the line, sentence or document, although such efforts are made in other questions. The word referenced here could also be "Louisiana"
>28
Strictly speaking, you cannot have a continuous curvature at a point of intersection, so a semicircle without a flattened curve would be valid. This begs the question: why specify that the curve be straight "at its spot bisection of the vertical"?
>29
Incomprehensible garbage
>30
Is not a grammatically complete sentence.

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Anyone have the actual tests? I'm curious to see how comprehensible they are.