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I'll start with this, The Jazz Theory book by Mark Levine as /mu/. This is honestly one of the best books to learn theory from in general

>> No.15872298

>(((Levine)))
>degenerate niggers noodling on their European instruments
You have to go back.

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>>15872287
Jazz? You can't be serious.

>> No.15872314

>>15872287
>Jazz
Fuck off, neocon

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>> No.15872396

ITT: seething polfags that need to go back
The thread is books from other boards. If you want to learn jazz theory, this is the book. We really need a philosophy containment board for christfags and for edgelords that post shit like "my understanding of neitzche's wikipedia page tells me that jazz is for kikes" and the equivalent

>> No.15872418

>>15872396
>adornoposting is /pol/

>> No.15872422

>>15872396
this is a maoist lgbt board

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>>15872287

>> No.15872438

>>15872422
>>15872418
>>15872351
>>15872314
>>15872301
>>15872298
what in the fuck? I made this thread to discuss books you assholes

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>>15872287
jazz is too mendacious

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>> No.15872455

>>15872396
this

>> No.15872487

>>15872287
Sure, great if all you care about is jazz, The Complete Musician is a far better general theory book and will leave well prepared regardless of what direction you pursue from there.

>> No.15872507

>>15872396
Jazz is shit. Anyone with ears can hear.

>> No.15872509

>>15872507
Black music in general is overrated af.

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>>15872287
Pinker loves jazz.
>>15869416

>> No.15872526

>>15872507
>>15872509
Hmmm seems like you guys are trying to discuss about different types and qualities of musical genres and artists. I have the perfect board for you gentlemen to continue this discussion. I'll even link it here for your convenience
>>>/mu/

>> No.15872531

>>15872509
Go ahead: I beg you to try living without their culture.

>> No.15872535

>>15872531
it's called dey culcha

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>>15872287
>Jazz

Get the fuck out.

>> No.15872561

>>15872287
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Jazz sound like horns honking in busy traffic or ducks quacking? How it it art?

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>>15872531
NO NOT THE CHUKUDUS
https://youtu.be/OGVpI9NXTbU

>> No.15872585

>>15872509
Its just Americans desperately trying to prove they have a culture by overselling the one somewhat original culture in their country

>> No.15872599

I haven't read Adorno, but I assume he was talking about popular big band type jazz and not later avant garde jazz

>> No.15872606

>>15872599
What kind of narcissistic fuck do you have to be to assume that anyone cares about your assumption?

>> No.15872610

>>15872599
Yeah, you haven't read him. That's for sure.

>> No.15872630

>no one on /lit/ listens to Chris Potter
>no one on /lit/ likes Charlie Parker or MJQ
>no one on /lit/ cares about Wes Montgomery, Ornette Coleman or Ramsey Lewis

I always forget how much I am revolted by you uncultured pricks daily. read.

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this is the actual /mu/ bible

>> No.15872637

>>15872560
ok 9gagger

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>>15872630
I like jazz. Took me a while to get into it but I eventually started gravitating to instrumental music and jazz and classical music are some of the more interesting forms of instrumental music. Instrumental rock music in my experience is pretty boring to listen to.

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/ck/ classic

>> No.15872666

>>15872630
Those guys suck.

>> No.15872670

>>15872654
Even then, soÿfaces were a thing

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There's lots of jazz and some of it really good. Also /co/ checking in with superior comic books.

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>>15872531
>Niggers
>culture
I love how cultured Africa is! HAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.15872677

>>15872630
>all of these literal whos
>not a single mention of our lord and savior Jacob “Jazzmaster Flash” Collier

>> No.15872700

unironically based thread, I have nothing to contribute but I love learning shit about different stuff

>> No.15872713

>>15872677
>Charlie Parker
>Wes Montgomery
>Ornette Coleman
>literal whos
>names some zoomer "jazz" fusion bullshit

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>>15872438

>> No.15872718

>the virgin learner vs the chad already knower

>> No.15872760

>>15872633
Based, this is such a good read. Not quite jazz though

>> No.15872829

>>15872718
>the Chad recollection

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>>15872829
>Ancestral memory

>> No.15872861

I tried Levine's Jazz Piano because it was the standard but was too dumb for it.

>> No.15872893

>>15872606
>>15872610
>Bear in mind that I am not referring to free jazz, post-bop, experimental jazz, and so on."
Quit being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

>> No.15872918

>>15872893
That still includes bebop and some of its subgenres though. Not just all swing and big band stuff. But you're partially right I guess. Not sure if modal jazz is included in "experimental jazz" for him though.

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>>15872848
>Ancestral amnesia

>> No.15872937

>>15872918
I made up that quote

>> No.15872950

>>15872526
Lmaoooooo

>> No.15873439

>jazz

>> No.15875388

>>15872715
Its all so tiresome

>> No.15875396

>>15872630
Based taste

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>>15872287
>Jazz

>> No.15875417

>>15872487
Best post ITT. Out of all the music theory books I've read, this is the one that best describes tonality in addition to being very meticulously written.

>> No.15875433

>>15872526
musical discussion on /mu/ is way too fucking shallow. No one there knows theory, and most of the time it's the usual *band* reminds me of *other band*; x/10 retarded evaluation method; cringe/based.

>> No.15875440

>>15872654
Learn theory. Then listen to classical.

>> No.15875444

great thread

>> No.15875492

>>15872487
Is this a good book if you don't play any instruments but are interested in better understanding and appreciating music?

>> No.15875497

>>15875492
Not him, but yes. It's pretty chewy though

>> No.15875562

>>15872561
You're not (entirely) wrong, however, what you and a lot of anons don't realise is that Jazz (especially things like modal jazz) basically takes all music theory concepts and forces them together. Sometimes it sounds cool, sometimes it doesn't. It's a lot more in depth on how key changes can occur, what harmonies work, how to form harmonies, and how far you can stretch melodies. Once you understand Jazz, you've basically unlocked all music theory.

Bach still wrote better music than Jazz artists, but you can reverse engineer Jazz to get baroque if you want.

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Bach and before

Ives and after

>> No.15875600

>>15872585
Why are you third worlders such niggerlovers? It's disgusting

>> No.15875716

>>15875492
It can do it, it only gives a crash corse on the rudiments like reading music and the like, but that is not too hard to do. Problem with theory without instrument is everything is very abstract unless you have a naturally great ear, even then, you will save yourself a great deal of complication if you get a cheap use electric keyboard to work along with it, or perhaps a melodeian. You do not really need any skill, but you will devlop some without even trying, it is really just to connect the idea to the sound.

>> No.15875746

>>15875562
What are some good Jazz artists that are actually listenable?

>> No.15875761

>>15875746
sun ra - spring time is very approachable

>> No.15875778

memeing about nigger is fun, but when you cant discuss literature or actual culture because of it, it is just saddening, kinda disappointed with /lit/

>> No.15875784

>>15875778
Racism is not allowed outside of /b/.

>> No.15875808

>>15875784
well, /pol/ retards shit up threads anyway. 2016 was a bad year for chan, it is getting better with time though

>> No.15875819

>>15875746
That's a tough question, because it depends entirely on taste. I remember I got into Miles Davis because of my love of Bach. I remember reading that Miles used to practice Bach at faster and faster speeds (whether this is true I don't know), and I also always liked the trumpet (which is why I learnt it at age 10). As I learnt more music theory, I began to appreciate Jazz a lot more, and enjoy a lot of jazz music that I previously didn't find that appealing or "entry level".

Honestly, a lot of Jazz music could be considered "entry level", Ryo Fukui comes to mind as being an incredibly talented pianist who made likeable music. John Coltrane's "Giant steps" on the other hand would not be approachable, and kind of comes off as 'soulless wankery' (personally I don't think it's that great as something to listen to, it's more a demonstrative piece of what you can do with music - when you understand what it does, you realise what a feat it is for it not to sound as bad as you think it would).

I would recommend Chopin, Satie, and Debussy, they're classical, but they /feel/ like a style of classical that is reaching towards the chaos of jazz while still maintaining classical order. It really just depends on taste, and you shouldn't force yourself to listen to continue listening to something you don't like. It's kind of like reading, listen to a broad melange of genres, and eventually you'll find stuff you like, and that will link to other stuff you like, and you'll begin to find works of all genres that you can appreciate.

>> No.15875853

>>15875440
>classical
Jazz is better than this powdered whig garbage. Listen to a folk tradition rather than central european formula trite

>> No.15875861

>>15875819
What about the classics of early 60s Jazz like Charles Mingus, Eric Dolphy, and Dave Brubeck?

>> No.15875893

>>15875861
Again it's up to taste. Stuff like Take 5 is probably pleasant to most people. Charles Mingus, idk, I like stuff like Bird Calls, but do other people? The horns are a bit chaotic, I can't think of things of his that would neither be too boring or too complex. The truth is I don't listen to much Jazz anymore, it all sounds the same after a bit. Actually all music sounds the same, I don't listen to much music anymore.

>> No.15875930

>>15872659
More like this? I want more cooking metaphysics and esotericism

>> No.15876110 [DELETED] 

>>15872287
I kinda sorta like the sound of jazz but I don't like niggers. What do?

>> No.15876125

>>15876110
Japanese Jazz
White people Jazz (the 21st century has a lot of white jazz musicians that basically rewrite stuff from the 20th century)

>> No.15877928

>>15872583
This is actually a fucking based mode of transport

>> No.15877962

Imagine getting filtered by Jazz, I thought /lit/ was supposed to be smart.

>> No.15878007

>>15877928
Tell that to your knees afterwards.

>> No.15878035

>>15875440
I like classical music too but I don't know much theory so maybe I'd enjoy it more if I did. I've tried learning at various points but can't focus on it for too long.

>> No.15878473

>no ones posted SS yet

>> No.15878747

>>15875853
You have the worst taste on this board
>>15877962
And I thought you subhumans had your own website