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I think that just as the Pavlovian relationship between the rocket's sound and its impact, or between the rockets' impact and Slothrop, and how cause and effect become muddled by the acceleration of technology and industrialism, are meant to imply that the entire WWII theater is a factory mass-producing a new type of human being, which cannot distinguish itself from the tools that it uses in its daily life, much as Imimoplex G is meant to completely engulf a person. Slothrop, who was raised to respond to exposure to Imimoplex G, is the technologically-dependent consumer of the post-industrial capitalist society, whose most basic pleasures are completely dependent on high tech manufacturing processes. Slothrop's adventures in the Zone are about him breaking his addiction to industrialized society and reconnecting with humanity's true nature.

Your thoughts?

>> No.15840826

if i see this faggots stupid fucking face one more fucking time i'm going to fucking kill someone

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>>15840826

>> No.15841664

>>15840815
>>15840835
>>15841645
Who the fuck is this Chuck E. Cheese looking motherfucker? I refuse to believe that Thomas Pynchon looks like this.

>> No.15841677

>>15841664
Thomas Pynchon is moreso a group

>> No.15841684

>>15840826
PYNCHED

>> No.15841694

>>15841684
HAHA MOM I SAID IT AGAIN

>> No.15841702

>>15841664
It's Luther Blissett

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>>15841664
That's because he actually looks like this.

>> No.15841736

>>15841694
P-P-PYNCHED

>> No.15841738

>>15841736
See >>15841694

>> No.15841742

>>15841738
PYNCHED

>> No.15841747

>>15840826
Tell Tony he’s safe

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10/10 thread

>> No.15841758

>>15841742
See, unlike you I am not a monkey, so I will not continue this repetition based on a pathetic misunderstanding of Pynchon's humor.

>> No.15841766

>>15841758
I think someone just got pynched

>> No.15841773

>>15841758
PYNCHED

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>>15841709
Query whether the movie Inherent Vice is consistent with nofap protocols?

>> No.15842473

>>15840815
I like the idea but it seems to require writing off a large chunk of the novel as just filler. Show how the rest of the novel supports your interpretation.

>> No.15842483

>>15842161
No way, some of the hottest girls ever filmed. Lots of titties.

>> No.15842902

>>15842473
Which parts aren't covered by that thesis?

>> No.15843327

>>15842902
It has been awhile since I have read it, but how would the Schwarzkommando and Herero fit in? They were not created by the war nor part of the creating.

>> No.15844145

>>15843327
They represent the state of nature defiled by German industrialism, then brought back to Germany as trophies, who go insane when forced to live in an artificial environment that isn't compatible with their natural lifestyles.

>> No.15844158

>>15840815
>>15841645
>Those teeth.
No wonder he's a recluse.

>> No.15844237

>>15844145
So, they are not covered by the above thesis at all, you are just explaining them away.

>> No.15844239

>>15844158
Supposedly the first thing he did after getting out of the navy was get them fixed.

>> No.15844458

>>15840815
whose most basic pleasures have also, since early childhood, been quite literally modified and SHAPED, perennially, by extraordinarily powerful and illusive forces (in this case, men like Lyle Bland and Jamf. blank can easily be read as a stand in for the evils of capitalism itself, and the elite societies thjat tend to run societies....he is an out an out capitalist with ties to all kind of outrageously shady corporations like the IG Farben, and later becomes a mason)

>> No.15844515

>>15844237
thats not necessarily true at all. whereas some one like slothrop "scatters," the elders of the hereros are actively trying to put an end to their bloodline and culture...not merely a scattering of an identity, but a complete erasure of one

>> No.15844651

>>15844515
You are stretching things a fair amount there, at that point one should look to adapt the thesis, not the novel.

>> No.15845081

Capital is sentient.

>> No.15845645

Pynch explains the whole thing at the end of the book:
>In Africa, Asia, Amerindia, Oceania, Europe came and established its order of Analysis and Death. What it could not use, it killed or altered. In time the death-colonies grew strong enough to break away. But the impulse to empire, the mission to propagate death, the structure of it, kept on. Now we are in the last phase. American Death has come to occupy Europe. It has learned empire from its old metropolis. But now we have only the structure left us, none of the great rainbow plumes, no fittings of gold, no epic marches over alkali seas. The savages of other continents, corrupted but still resisting in the name of life, have gone on despite everything... while Death and Europe are separate as ever, their love still unconsummated. Death only rules here.

>> No.15846849

>>15845645
I guess death cults and mass human sacrifices will always be a thing. Could be the same stuff 2666 was talking about.

>> No.15848150

>>15841677
a collection of interests, if you will

>> No.15848155

>>15843327
>They were not created by the war nor part of the creating.
You need to reread it my friend

>> No.15849757

>>15844651
actually im not stretching much at all. and im not even op