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Hoppe was right. Democracy was a mistake.

What are some other books on the disaster that is democracy?

>> No.15836915

The Holy Quran

>> No.15837332

The Republic

>> No.15837355

>>15836905
I saw some italian thinkers recommended here once, but I do not remember their names.

>> No.15837374

Name a democracy

>> No.15837386

>>15837374
Define democracy

>> No.15837394

>>15836915
based
>The Qur'an argues that the stability and order prevailing throughout the universe shows that it was created and is being administered by only one God (Sura 28:70-72)
>verse 21:22 states: "If there were numerous gods instead of one, [the heavens and the earth] would be in a sorry state".
but just to play d adv, if monarchy good then why is the United States of America so overwhelmingly dominant, prosperous and influential?

>> No.15837398

There are none because without democracy you wouldn't even be
able to read them or play with le memes that made you "into one"
And even if you could read them you wouldn't dare to employ any
critical thought to what you'd read because it weren't for le
good of le race to think critically about the state.

Sitting on your ass reading books is the least fascist thing u
could do. All the boys in the barracks would bully u and u'd
probably get marked as front-line fodder by your co for being
so weak. idiot

Look in a mirror and realize that even YOU are enfranchised.

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15837401

>>15837386

>> No.15837407

>>15837401
Now, is this desirable? Why would the men of property be excluded?

>> No.15837410

>>15836905
Not a single time in human history has totalitarianism even half worked, every single time it has ended in utter disaster.

>> No.15837415

>>15837398
Shhh. Don't break the fantasy. This thread is for indulgent thinking bordering on delusion. You've got to check reality at the door.

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15837418

>>15837407
Land does not belong to men
Men belong to the land.
And yes, it is very desirable.

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15837422

>>15837398
>not liking democracy makes you inmediately a fascist

>> No.15837428

>>15837422
It makes one an authoritarian. Quit mincing

>> No.15837446

>>15837394
Qur'an doesn't advocate monarchy. It doesn't necessarily advocate for any political system. Of course, the idea that Islam is strictly anti-democracy emerged from (surprise surprise) the modern Muslim world and the enlightened and magnanimous people who rule over it

>> No.15837453

>>15837428
And how do you propose we "enforce" democracy?

>> No.15837461

>>15837410
Absurd, the West was build under monarchic rule, democracy didn't introduce any new beneficent solutions - it is just slowly (slowly - because of the inherent system's inefficiency) degrading an already established socioeconomic system.

>> No.15837471

>>15837446
see
>>15837386

>> No.15837472

>>15837461
>monarchy
>totalitarism

>> No.15837488

>>15837461
The West merely transferred from the rule of the aristocrats to the rule of the mercantilism bourgeois, to now the rule of the technocratic bourgeois. Democracy vs authoritarianism is just a mystification; the West is democratic to act as a prevention against political instability by nominally introducing the general populace into the movements of the bureaucracy and thereby keeping them engaged in the game of reform

>> No.15837516

>>15837453
I posted the book.
It kind of infers it on the cover

>> No.15837557

>>15837516
And what happens when people want a monarch/government to unite all these regions?

>> No.15837572

>>15837557
>What if people forgot what horrors past authoritarian governments were like?
>What if the people, self governing, decided to shatter their progress
Monarch? To “unite”? Like an ax can unite a man’s head

>> No.15837574

>>15837572
You seem to forget how stupid people can be

>> No.15837586

>>15837374
are you one of those literal retarded people who think only your specific form of democracy is real democracy?

>> No.15837620

>>15837374
Hungary

>> No.15837625

>>15837428
You can be an authoritarian democrat retard.

>> No.15837632

>>15836905
>being anti-democracy instead of anti-liberalism
Democracy isn't going anywhere, even dictatorships now use it as a way to maintain legitimacy.

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>>15837586
Full throated democracy is direct-democracy.
The. There’s representative democracy, with its councils and tribunals
The there’s a few gradations of authoritarianism that step us down through fake democracy through rigged elections, etc.
voting isn’t democracy. Democracy for the elites isn’t a very good version either. Any questions?

>> No.15837642

>>15837625
Name the way one can be authoritarian In it and that’s not an actual democracy

>> No.15837652

>>15837642
See the Middle East. Democratic results there consistently show that people there want pretty authoritarian Islamic laws. Illiberal Democracies have been a well known phenomenon for a while.

>> No.15837671

>>15837642
Define "authoritarian"

>> No.15837716

>>15836905
>democracy
cringe
>democracy to come
based

>> No.15837720

>>15837635
>Any questions?

there is literally nothing you can possibly teach me aside from how to become more self-absorbed you retarded pseud attention whore

>> No.15837721

>>15837635
>one person one vote
>democracy

>> No.15837759

>>15837671
The amount of authority taken by the representative. Sometimes it’s autocratic or downright totalitarian. Sometimes they go through some baloney voting process. Putin eliminates competition the same way the US duopoly of representatives eliminates/marginalizes any competition. The main difference between the two is Putin controls the oligarchy while it’s reversed in the US.

>>15837721
Yeah. For once we should see what majority rule is like.

>> No.15837765

>>15837720
I don’t know who you are or what you know, but someone was asking me questions that I’m just trying to answer

>> No.15837814

>>15837332
This
It was Athenian democrats who voted for Socrates to be executed

>> No.15837829

>>15836905
Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes is the obvious answer.