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15833054 No.15833054 [Reply] [Original]

Fiction is no better than playing videogames. Why even bother with it? Because pic related: you're weak and want to escape.

>> No.15833063

>>15833054
Nonfiction = bourgeois
Fiction and poetry = patrician

>> No.15833079

>>15833054
Good fiction means good story, good plot, well developed characters, very good fiction will also have a good writing style, good prose. All of these things are beneficial towards developing ones literary abilities. Games or tv on the other hand are mainly visual mediums and have none of these.

>> No.15833101

>>15833054
videogames are made to be sold, you must like them, they not need to be true. yet some fiction and fantasy are made to tell truth which otherwise cannot be properly expressed. examples: don quijote, stranger in a strange land, dune, hobbit/lotr.

>> No.15833126

just read whatever the fuck you want

>> No.15833155

>>15833054
Someone who is unable to learn anything from fiction can't learn things from life itself, anon. While he might have control over technique, he would lose control over his life and delegate that to whoever is willing to take it. I think Rand accidentally, or purposely, illustrates that in a decent manner.

>> No.15833510

>>15833054
The only nonfiction I read is about war and UFOs because the real world, for the most part, doesn't interest me.

>> No.15833721

>>15833101
> truth which otherwise cannot be properly expressed.
Does not exist, cope
There is no truth in fiction but by accident. That one could think otherwise is a sign one is mentally deficient

>> No.15833737

>>15833155
Wrong, fiction is even lower than anecdote because fiction is false anecdote.

>> No.15833866

>>15833721
you are amazing degenerate. I saw many likes of you being products of single mothers.

>> No.15833882

>>15833737
Sure, you are correct.

>> No.15833893

>>15833054
You can read all that shit on wikipedia. Non-fiction is just raw data and bullet points. Fiction is beauty and imagination.

>> No.15833908

>>15833737
>fiction is false anecdote.
That makes it even better. There's no merit in just repeating something that really happened. Anyone can do that. But inventing something has far more artistic merit.

>> No.15834340

>>15833866
It shrinks back, the mask slips; It's out of arguments for its lie

>> No.15834349

>>15833908
Sure, it's pretty and artistic but wholly worthless to read

>> No.15834365

>>15833054
How about you post your timestamped physique before I dignify this thread with an actual response, 'strong' faggot.

>> No.15834489

>>15833054
Escape from what? The experience of fiction is as real as the experience of non-fiction. Both are ultimately sense-data that is impressing itself upon you. One is no less real than the other, so neither offer any such 'escape', only alternative perspectives of the reality impressing itself upon you. The fact you argue for the experience of non-fiction over fiction specifically in regards for 'escape' tells me that you're the coward who seeks such 'escape' in non-fiction and you project that desire you haven't reconciled with, probably due to your own self-loathing, onto those who prefer fiction.

>> No.15834504

>>15834489
Nonfiction sense data teaches you things about the world, fiction is just delusion. It's like hallucination vs. actual sense data lol

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>>15834365
too lazy to do a timestamp cuz fuck you but I keep a selfy on hand

>> No.15834518

Reading fiction is like learning another language. You begin to understand just how you form your own thoughts from a position outside of yourself, instead of virgin metaphysics of presence

>> No.15834527

>>15834504
Fiction is a thing in the world

>> No.15834571

>>15833054
noticing non-fiction elements like social and political theories in fiction is high iq level

not my level desu[/spoler]

>> No.15834606

Ok

>> No.15834608

>>15834504
A maths textbook can't teach you much about poetry. A history textbook can't teach you very much about poetry. Aristotle can teach you a bit about poetry through non-fiction. But why read the latter without the context of poetry? As someone else said, fiction is a thing in the world. Denying what exists in the world is 'escapism' in its own right. An immature fear of what does exist.

>> No.15834626

>>15833054
Anything I haven't experienced myself is fiction.

>> No.15834641

Does anyone have a screenshot of that anon making up a quote from Sam Harris about nonfiction being infinitely superior to fiction?

>> No.15834644

>>15834626
Experience is mediated therefor fiction as well

>> No.15834830

>>15833063
/thread

>> No.15834841

>>15834513
>35
>still posting on 4chan
So this is the power of non-ficiton...

>> No.15834851

>>15833054
>the virgin fiction vs nonfiction
>the chad holistic reader

>> No.15834930

>>15833054
>basis beliefs on science
>non fiction
choose only one

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15835963

Books like this?

>> No.15836203

>>15833054
>nonfiction
>Plato
lmao

>> No.15837169

>>15833054
Poetry is non-fiction, you fucking retard.

>> No.15837177

>>15833054
if you think you can't become more knowledgeable by reading fiction you're either reading bad books or reading good books incorrectly.

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>>15833054
Fiction is no better than playing videogames. The vast majority of it is not worth your time, but cream of the crop will change you forever.

>> No.15837202

>>15833054
>Has never read a poem in their life

A tragedy

>> No.15837272

>>15837202
poetry is gay, i stick with philosophy and prose fiction so i guess i am not chad though

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15837287

Jesus fucking christ. Is this what passes as "discussion" on /lit/?
>Muh non-fiction is better
>Muh fiction is better
Holy fucking shit, go kill yourself you unrepentant schizo. Why the fuck did you make this fucking thread?

>> No.15837289

>>15833054
Non-fiction is for soulless bugmen.
Fiction and poetry are for dandy fops who fuck everything, do tons of drugs, and die in their late 20's.
The short life of a dandy fop is far better than an eternity as a bugman.

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15837613

BUT BRO FICTION CAN HAVE MEANING BRO SYMBOLISM BRO PLEASE BRO

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15837626

>>15834513
>middle-aged Jew Yorker with self-esteem issues negging randos on the internet

>> No.15837633

Nonficion is no better than reading fiction or playing videogames. Unless of course it's some books which have direct benefits for your job, but that's a special case, not true for the abstract philosophy.

>> No.15837640

>>15833054
Just read what you want to read you stupid fucking faggot

>> No.15837654

Most non fictions books are just useless motivational speaker tier nonsense though.