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These past few months have proven beyond any doubt that liberalism has liquidated society and all our discourse is manufactured by the system. Where do we go from here?

>> No.15785083

>>15785054
Illiberal national-conservatism sort of like Hungary and Poland

>> No.15785089
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15785089

>Where do we go from here?

Where did we go in the 1920s with a massive recession looming on the horizon and degenerate faggot liberals and communists trying to tear down healthy nations?

>> No.15785090

>>15785054
>liberalism has liquidated society and all our discourse is manufactured by the system

If this is true, doesn't it mean that liberalism has succeeded?

>> No.15785129

>>15785090
Yes which is Deneens point

For the love of god read the fucking book

>> No.15785133

>>15785090
No, because the social contract between the people and the state has been utterly obliterated. The premise of the book is that liberalism's failure is a result of its success, since the fundamental paradox of liberalism has never been solved and is rapidly leading to the degeneration of society where liberalism becomes coercive and all-consuming

>> No.15785209

>>15785054
Liberalism can only exist in a relatively peaceful country where the real issues have already been solved. The impending ecological crises of global warming will save the West from liberalism. It'll cause actual issues, and liberalism will fall apart as a result.

>> No.15785241

the future is democracy without liberalism or liberalism without democracy

>> No.15785353

>>15785133
>social contract
Show me this contract. I don't remember signing anything like it is that. Whenever I ask anyone to see this contract, with my signature on it, they just stare at me blankly. If this contract doesn't actually exist then it is quite plan to see why Liberalism has failed; it is because the fundamental premises are based on the overactive imaginations of the degenerate merchant caste. Dealing with the merchants would probably be the best step in order to create a functional society from here on out.

>> No.15785355
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15785355

>>15785054

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15785361

>>15785089
>Where did we go in the 1920s with a massive recession looming on the horizon
>State authoritarian capitalism!
Go to China, faggot

>> No.15785553

>>15785355
Yeah, socialism after all discussion of class in America was immediately forgotten and the institutional elites launched a massive social movement to homogenize Americans into identitarian woke progressivism that's replacing the Left with liberalism. Good fucking lord you leftists are delusional

>> No.15785605

>>15785361
>inclusive democracy
Top kek, as they say.

>> No.15785638

>>15785553
That was the successful campaign of propaganda, true. Now what?

>>15785605
Do you have anything to contribute? I don’t know about OPs book, but democracy isn’t being used in this world. Voting is not democracy.

>> No.15785718

>>15785638
now what? Leftism is BTFO once again and your dreams of class unity and socialism are rendered even more impossible thanks to liberal commodification

>> No.15785735

>>15785638
>I don’t know about OPs book, but democracy isn’t being used in this world.
If only that were true...

>> No.15786824

>>15785735
Voting is not democracy.

>> No.15787395

>>15785083
conservatism is liberalism retard.

>> No.15787411

>>15785054
As it turns out, having a political movement centered around grinding on young boys and communism it produces losers

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>>15787411
>Okay, I have no idea what liberalism is.

>> No.15787501

>>15787433
What's it like being a degenerate obese middle aged woman who comes on 4chan with a trip to seek validation?

>> No.15787515

>>15785089
>degenerate
>faggot

Nice spooks

>> No.15787524

>>15787515
faggots actually take dick in anus... real dick no spook shit yes I know it's fucking disgusting

>> No.15787532

>>15787524
>disgusting

nice spook

>> No.15788070

>>15787515
Answer the question.

>> No.15788310

>>15785054
>Where do we go from here?
Get away from big cities, find a nice house, grow your own food, be useful to your community and, I insist, get the fuck away from big cities.