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[Anonymous No.15784639]

>violent
>misogynistic
>racist
>antisemitic
>death worshiper
Why was he such an awful person?

[Anonymous No.15784661]

>violent
>misogynistic
>racist
>antisemitic
>death worshiper
Based & redpilled.

[Anonymous No.15784669]

>>15784639
And yet he Halted at his own morality. I wonder what that says about him...

[Anonymous No.15784672]

He was a rich dude with mom issues, that's basically a guarantee that someone will be shitty

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.15784688]

>violent

Eh, violence is not inherently bad, It’s a neutral unchanging part of life that can in certain circumstances be good and in certain circumstances be bad.

>misogynistic

Eh, I live in an actual patriarchal society, my wife costed approximately $9500 to purchase from her father. I don’t see control of women or thinking them inferior as inherently bad, but rather what the majority of people globally have done and so naturally.

>racist

I don’t see a problem, being racist can have practical advantages for you and your family and group.

>antisemitic

Eh, I personally love the Jewish religion and philosophies but I can totally understand why people would be untrusting and not want them. What’s the big deal?

>death worshiper

Ehhhh, he wasn’t that depressed in his writings as people claim, he extolled the arts and saw beauty and so forth as a means of curing things such as suffering. The actual death worshipper was folks like mainlander or bahsen, death shouldn’t be feared but accepted, and all things in themselves are fine and good. Life and death both have their place and both have respectable aspects. To prefer one and not the other to the point of crying and shaking is largely pointless, if you are alive, try to be alive better, if death must come, enter death gracefully, I do not see the big deal.

[Anonymous No.15784747]

>>15784688
Eh

[Anonymous No.15784749]

>>15784639
None of this is true. Stop thinking in memes retard.

[Anonymous No.15784751]

>>15784639
sounds based desoo

[Anonymous No.15784755]

>>15784688
You can't see past your own nose

[Anonymous No.15784756]

>>15784661
>death worshiper
cringe, take the life affirming übermensch pill anon

[Anonymous No.15784765]

>>15784756
ubershit

[Anonymous No.15784770]

>>15784756
Schopenhauer is the ultimate affirmer, anon.

[Anonymous No.15784777]

>>15784756
That shit drove Niet insane.

[Anonymous No.15784782]

>>15784777
Holy fucking digits

[Anonymous No.15784797]

>>15784756
>take the life affirming übermensch pill anon
The one that acknowledges death?

[Anonymous No.15784827]

>>15784639
sounds based to me

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.15784835]

>>15784755

Yes.

[Anonymous No.15784850]

>>15784688
ehhhh you sound like a giant faggot tho

[Anonymous No.15784881]

>>15784639

[Anonymous No.15786152]

>>15784639

[Anonymous No.15786164]

>>15784688
>Eh, I live in an actual patriarchal society, my wife costed approximately $9500 to purchase from her father. I don’t see control of women or thinking them inferior as inherently bad, but rather what the majority of people globally have done and so naturally.
Where

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.15786184]

>>15786164

New York, we’re Gypsy, wherever we go, we keep our traditions. Benefit of a closed society. There is many of us and our culture and way of life is still very strong. We just don’t let outsiders in at all.

[Anonymous No.15786191]

>>15784688
>my wife costed approximately $9500 to purchase from her father.
thats really a bad investment
you should get money from her father, not pay it

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.15786201]

>>15786191

Eh it works out since women are required to be Virgin (least their market value drop significantly) and in the case of divorce the male automatically gets the kids and half the money paid. Also customary in the wedding all people who attend give the father of the groom money in a basket made of bread, all varying amounts, and this usually exceeds the amount paid for the woman. There’s a lot of tribal court autism also it’s a whole thing.

[Anonymous No.15786204]

>>15786184
Do your children not interact with the outside world? Do you have access to internet and other media at all? If so, your present condition might not last very long.

[Anonymous No.15786244]

>any

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.15786246]

>>15786204
>Do your children not interact with the outside world?

By vast majority no, we don’t do schooling by vast majority and have beliefs stuff like reading books will make your head filled with literal demons, including even the Bible which we believe in.

Do you have access to internet and other media at all?

More than 90% of Gypsy even in urban areas can’t read and can’t their own names. Like actually, and when they do, it’s all in Gypsy parts of the internet, Facebook for example, and the second you interact with others you will be shamed publicly and online by both your friends and family, and it isn’t uncommon that if you were to date a non Gypsy, you would be ya know, beaten.

>if so, your present condition might not last very long

Even the USSR trying to forcibly integrate us didn’t do it m8, our culture works on a very grug level to the point that it can’t be corrupted, our primary virtues are lying, stealing and making money through theft. We do not have any conception of heroicism, we are fully anti-intellectual and the kind of absolute us vs them mentality is instilled in us from youth and pushed from all angles. Its not going anywhere senpai.

[Anonymous No.15786265]

>>15786246
>Even the USSR trying to forcibly integrate us didn’t do it m8, our culture works on a very grug level to the point that it can’t be corrupted, our primary virtues are lying, stealing and making money through theft. We do not have any conception of heroicism, we are fully anti-intellectual and the kind of absolute us vs them mentality is instilled in us from youth and pushed from all angles. Its not going anywhere senpai.
Based

[Anonymous No.15786267]

>>15786246
Lmao that's actually respectable. How did you learn to read, use the internet and end up on /lit/ then?

[Anonymous No.15786271]

the fraud hegel postponed his greatness

[Anonymous No.15786288]

>>15784688
are you a professional quote maker by chance

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.15786290]

>>15786267

My grandfather was able to read and read a little bit of revelations to me when I was like 5, this gave me a addiction/hunger for knowledge and spirituality, which I knew I couldn’t do without reading so I called the cops on my parents, forcing myself into education, so I could read the Bible and so forth.

So I basically got myself to go to school by force then read as many spiritual texts as I could find, lived in a Hasidic Jewish neighborhood so I was able to forcibly befriend them, learned about Jewish mysticism from their fathers basically. The internet basically allowed me to get so much information on so many topics, even now the majority of the time I’m on /lit/ it’s to recommend books or get recommendations. I actually really like Schopenhauer and I think it’s a raw deal that people have such a negative view of his work. I’ve been on 4chan since like 2005 though.

[Anonymous No.15786293]

>>15784639
I never liked him at all but this makes him look pretty good. I'm going to try again. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.15786299]

>>15786246
Are you still in the gypsy community?
Also do you guys call yourselves gypsies? Ive heard people calling the word a slur.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.15786305]

>>15786288

Never heard of it.

[Anonymous No.15786326]

>>15786246
>our primary virtues are lying, stealing and making money through theft. We do not have any conception of heroicism, we are fully anti-intellectual and the kind of absolute us vs them mentality is instilled in us from youth and pushed from all angles.
Wtf I hate gypsies now

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.15786332]

>>15786299
>Are you still in the gypsy community?

Yep, mostly because I do a lot of paperwork for other Gypsy and besides the reading and writing live the normative lifestyle. Only problem comes up when they tell me they think I’m pretentious for not having the same vocabulary as they, example I’ve had arguments over the word “basic” as they thought the word basic was “too fancy” and you get the idea.

>Also do you guys call yourselves gypsies? Ive heard people calling the word a slur.


We totally do, the only people who don’t are people who don’t even speak our language or live in our culture, SJW types, and pseudo Gypsy who have no relation to us, like Irish travelers. Like we have our own large Protestant church with a singular overseer, and we just call ourselves the Gypsy church. And our church is active across the Americas and Europe even as far as turkey.

[Anonymous No.15786341]

>>15786290
Actually very based if true. I also share your views on Schopenhauer. It's a pity the memes about him clouds the judgement of actually philosophically minded people.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.15786369]

>>15786326

Yeah I don’t like to pretend it’s some mythical thing like non-Gypsy believe or larp it is. Funny enough I’ve tried to talk to other people online who claim to be Gypsy, they almost always cannot speak a lick of our language and will get very angry when I talk about these facts of our culture, because it’s very different from the pop culture depiction. Realistically we even have a folk belief reason for why we’re allowed to steal and lie.

The tldr is there was once a man who saw Christ was to be crucified, so he stole a nail that would have pierced his heart, after Christ dies on the cross, the spirit of god comes to the man tells him he will be both blessed and cursed.

Cursed that because he lessened the pain and suffering of Christ, he’d be forced to wander the world forever and his children also, as vagabonds and to never be in unity with any people, to never have a nation and always be cast out.

And as a blessing because of lessening the pain of Christ, we are allowed to lie steal and so forth without sinning and that we as a whole are blessed with skill in it, to the point that even our children can sometimes trick grown adults, which is actually true.

So yeah this is a big part of us.

[Anonymous No.15786373]

>>15786290
You look like a really cool individual. The very few intelligent gypsies i've ever met are REALLY intelligent, fusing street smart with genuine book worming.
I have a really good friend (his mom is a rich gypsy and his father is a spanish legionary).
Well, this nigga is studying mathematics while dealing all kind of drugs.
Also ,he is very handsome and has 3 children while being only 21 years old. Payos are seething.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.15786395]

>>15786373

It’s very rare that Gypsy will mix with non Gypsy especially females, every Gypsy group depending on nation has their own zagono(traditions basically ) which are further divided into basically tribes. Could be a commonality with his local tribe-thing.

By majority any intellect we have nowadays gets funneled into our Gypsy church and basically into theology, which is pretty nice. We’re very anti drug though by majority.

[Anonymous No.15786426]

>>15786152
kek

[Anonymous No.15786565]

>>15786152
>ceo of misogyny
kek

[Anonymous No.15787539]

>>15786395
>>15786373
Faggot

[Anonymous No.15787567]

>>15784639
>repressed homosexual

[Anonymous No.15787616]

>>15784749
>violent
threw an old bitch down the stairs
>misogynistic
wrote essays about how much women suck (and was right, too)
>racist
idk if i read anything like this. he called africans savage and primitive, i think, but he also showed sympathy to the slaves in america and called them his "black brothers" i think
>antisemitic
i think he hated all religions
>death worshiper
he likes suicide
none of these are memes, dummy
>>15787567
no way he fuckd bitches 24/7

[Anonymous No.15787656]

>>15784639
Lived a sheltered meaningless existence.

[Anonymous No.15787664]

>>15784639
all men are like that when they stop being cucks

[Anonymous No.15787667]

>>15784688
You're the worst tripfag we have. I love butterfly compared to you.

[Anonymous No.15787682]

>>15787616
What the fuck, nothing you said is true except that he was against religions, and you want to correct somebody else?
>he likes suicide
I suggest actually reading his books you fucking kid.

[Anonymous No.15787689]

Based gypsy thread. Stay away from my town though.

[Anonymous No.15787691]

>>15787682
>threw an old bitch down the stairs
this is literally a fact you retard
>wrote essays about how much women suck
this is also a fact, you retard
> showed sympathy to the slaves in america
this is also a fact, you stupid retard
>he likes suicide
maybe im paraphrasing, but he dosen't oppose, you big stupid smelly retard

[Anonymous No.15787703]

>>15787691
>>he likes suicide
>maybe im paraphrasing, but he dosen't oppose, you big stupid smelly retard
Not the other anon, but I'm pretty sure he said it was an affirmation of the will to life, and meditative starving like some Buddhist monks do is the only acceptable way. And even then one will be swept up in the will again.

[Anonymous No.15787709]

>>15787691
I don't care about some random anecdote of his life, I'm talking about the things you are making up about his writings.
Schopenhauer does not condone suicide, and he didn't write about how "women suck", how immature do you have to be to draw that kind of conclusion?

[Anonymous No.15787713]

>>15784639
>throws a woman down the stairs because she wouldn't be quiet
holy fucking based

[Anonymous No.15787717]

>>15784639
I believe the word you're looking for is "based"

[Frater Asemlen XS8vrClKs2 No.15787733]

>>15784688
I'm trans, btw :3

[Anonymous No.15787734]

>>15787713
It's not just that she wouldn't be quiet. the hag was standing in front his room while gossiping and refused to move away when he asked politely a few times. Honestly seems like she deserved it.

[Anonymous No.15787738]

>>15784639
>>racist
Yeah, he was the original BBC poster

>Blonde people fancy either absolutely dark complexions or brown; but it is rarely the case vice versâ. The reason for it is this: that fair hair and blue eyes are a deviation from the type and almost constitute an abnormity, analogous to white mice, or at any rate white horses. They are not indigenous to any other part of the world but Europe,—not even to the polar regions,—and are obviously of Scandinavian origin. En passant, it is my conviction that a white skin is not natural to man, and that by nature he has either a black or brown skin like our forefathers, the Hindoos, and that the white man was never originally created by nature; and that, therefore, there is no race of white people, much as it is talked about, but every white man is a bleached one. Driven up into the north, where he was a stranger, and where he existed only like an exotic plant, in need of a hothouse in winter, man in the course of centuries became white. The gipsies, an Indian tribe which emigrated only about four centuries ago, show the transition of the Hindoo’s complexion to ours. In love, therefore, nature strives to return to dark hair and brown eyes, because they are the original type; still, a white skin has become second nature, although not to such an extent as to make the dark skin of the Hindoo repellent to us.

>>misogynistic
Did a complete 180 on women later in his life and said a woman can become greater than a man. The oldman absolutely hated normalfagism much more than women.

>"I have not yet spoken my last word about women. I believe that if a woman succeeds in withdrawing from the mass, or rather raising herself from above the mass, she grows ceaselessly and more than a man."

>>antisemitic
His man beef with Jews was theism and Judaism being the father religion of Christianity and Islam. And he was a radical atheist.

[Anonymous No.15787747]

>>15787738
>Yeah, he was the original BBC poster
Can't you read? He is saying whites with dark hair (which he himself was) are sexually more desirable than blondes.

[Anonymous No.15787750]

>>15787733
So anon, when do you plan to kill yourself ?

[Anonymous No.15787855]

>>15784639
>"God lets the oppositional will of the ground operate in order that might be which love unifies and subordinates itself to for the glorification of the Absolute. The will of love stands about the will of the ground and this predominance, this eternal decidedness, the love for itself as the essence of being in general, this decidedness is the innermost core of absolute freedom."
>"Philosophy will not be able to effect an immediate transformation of the present condition of the world. This is not only true of philosophy, but of all merely human thought and endeavor. Only a god can save us. The sole possibility that is left for us is to prepare a sort of readiness, through thinking and poeticizing, for the appearance of the god or for the absence of the god in the time of foundering [Untergang] for in the face of the god who is absent, we founder. Only a God Can Save Us."
>"For us contemporaries the greatness of what is to be thought is too great. Perhaps we might bring ourselves to build a narrow and not far reaching footpath as a passageway."
>“There is a thinking more rigorous than the conceptual”
>“...the most extreme sharpness and depth of thought belongs to genuine and great mysticism”
~Martin Heidegger

>Wisdom is one thing: to know the will that steers all things through all.
>This world-order, the same of all, no god nor man did create, but it ever was and is and will be: everlasting fire, kindling in measures and being quenched in measures.
>The invisible structure is greater than the visible.
~Heraclitus

>"And for these reasons, and out of such elements which are in number four, the body of the world was created, and it was harmonised by proportion, and therefore has the spirit of friendship; and having been reconciled to itself, it was indissoluble by the hand of any other than the framer."
>Wherefore also we must acknowledge that there is one kind of being which is always the same, uncreated and indestructible, never receiving anything into itself from without, nor itself going out to any other, but invisible and imperceptible by any sense, and of which the contemplation is granted to intelligence only.
~Plato

>“The Tao is beyond is and is not. How do I know this? I look inside myself and see.”
~Lao Tzu

[Frater Asemlen XS8vrClKs2 No.15787952]

>>15787750
When I'm done sucking Schopy's dick while definitions of both OP's and Schopy's claims :3

[Frater Asemlen XS8vrClKs2 No.15787959]

>>15787952
while bending definitions*

[Anonymous No.15787963]

>>15787855
Are you just showing that Eastern philosophy is nothing but empty aphorisms?

[Anonymous No.15788142]

>>15784639
>misogynistic
>racist
>antisemitic
Beyond the spam you've received in your time spent in an institution, can you validate your opposition to any of these?

[Anonymous No.15788147]

>>15784639
Yikes

[Anonymous No.15788154]

>>15786152
Man, now I want to read TWWR EVEN MORE

[Anonymous No.15788295]

>>15784639
He literally hated everything but him and Goethe

[Anonymous No.15788369]

>>15784639
for fun

[Anonymous No.15788380]

>>15788295
Completely understandable. I, too, hate everything aside him and Goethe.

[Anonymous No.15788384]

>>15784797
acknowledging death =/= worshiping death

[Anonymous No.15788407]

>>15787733
a trans gypsy? jesus, i feel sorry for you anon.

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.15788704]

>>15788407

I’d sooner kill Myself than become a tranny. Only the mentally diseased would become such.

>>15787667
Based.

[Anonymous No.15788715]

>>15788704
you type like a redditor

[Anonymous No.15788726]

>>15784688
>Eh, I live in an actual patriarchal society, my wife costed approximately $9500 to purchase from her father.
Interesting, how would one immigrate?

[Frater Asemlen !XS8vrClKs2 No.15788732]

>>15788715

I’ve been told that a lot, I’ve still never used Reddit.

[Anonymous No.15789060]

>>15786246
truly the negroes of eastern europe

[Anonymous No.15789085]

>>15784639
also
> anti-hegelian
possibly the greatest man to have ever lived on earth.

[Anonymous No.15789087]

>>15784688
go back

[Anonymous No.15789095]

>>15788295
he loved voltaire too.

[Anonymous No.15789148]

Before this thread I had no strong feelings on gypsies, after reading this thread I have to the conclusion that if there is one group of people that deserves to be genocided, it's them.

[Anonymous No.15789150]

>>15789060
>the negroes of eastern europe
that would be slavs themselves

[Anonymous No.15789261]

>>15789150
This. Gyps are somehow worse than the niggest nigs.

[Anonymous No.15789662]

>>15784770
>life affirmer
>antinatalist
Pick one

[Anonymous No.15789673]

>>15789085
book hard
book bad

[Anonymous No.15789679]

>>15787855
Damn I had no idea Heidegger was a chad pagan

[Anonymous No.15789683]

>>15789148
"People" is a strong word.

[Anonymous No.15789702]

>>15784639
Nature is violent and misogyny and racism are signs of a high IQ. The antisemitism and pessimism I refuse to defend but I understand the reasoning and respect it.

[Anonymous No.15789724]

>>15788154
you should

[Anonymous No.15789903]

>>15784639
All of that is extremely based and science will confirm it soon.